Wednesday, 2015-03-25

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birdzhangIs any plan about next release of nexus5 ? :)03:48
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mvmsaikrishnagood morning06:06
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zGrrmoin :)07:39
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Nokius|jolla_morning =)07:54
Nokius|jolla_mal- sledges will it make sense to try cm 10.1 ?07:56
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carepackhehe: morning ;)08:24
sledgeswho's hehe? ;)08:25
carepackaltrer ego08:26
sledgesalterego: ? ;)08:28
carepackdamn colon08:30
sledgesa typo can make a morning joke;)08:31
sledgesso all good08:31
carepackyes: ;)08:32
carepacklocusf: morning08:32
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alteregoDid someone summon me? :P08:44
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sledgesalterego: in fact one fella was asking about grouper yesterday :P08:50
sledgesand they are also doing a webos port for it08:54
alteregourgh :P08:54
sledges(from another fella:p)08:55
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vgradeseems we have a few more requsts for sdcard access.  A link to /home/nemo has been suggested but this would require permission changes I think allowing nemo to read11:25
vgradeany other thoughts ?11:25
sledgesfilemon? ;)11:27
sledgesthere is a root plugin in openrepos, too11:28
sledgesbut that's short-term, and file manager needs fixing anyways11:28
sledgeswhen i need /data, i just mount the block device. can't we do the same + -o uid/gid ?11:29
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vgradesledges: oh its on its own partition thats handy. So we would need to mount with original uid/gid and allow nemo to read/write11:34
vgradedata is already mounted in non multirom11:35
sledgesvgrade: if there is no physical sdcard, it's then usually found on /data/media/011:40
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vgradesledges: yea, so would just need adding nemo user access11:48
vgradeI suppose how far we go depends on how much we want to support users switching11:49
vgradeas you say they can already moun the partition11:50
vgradeif needed11:50
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starkDbl07hello  everyone12:06
sledgesvgrade: so adding nemo to a certain group?12:07
starkDbl07since i joined the channel a lot late, i need to review the previous logs a lot. So, I created a simple script to help me go through the previous IRC logs.12:10
starkDbl07The script simply maintains a local palintext archive from the IRC logs website. It crawls the site, download newer archive, convert to plaintext and save to local archive.12:10
sledgescarepack: ^ interested? :)12:10
starkDbl07Its at ''12:11
starkDbl07just wanted to share if seems helpful to anyone else other than me too. :)12:11
sledgesi just found a hidden feature12:11
carepackstartkDbl07: sledges: thx for this12:14
starkDbl07sledges: oh shit. now thats sounds a bit of shame on me. ;) anyways thanks sledges. I will make modifications just to download them and maintain locally.12:14
sledgesstarkDbl07: sorry to partially take the wind out of your sails, but having a local copy of plain text logs is still super awesome, thanks!12:16
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starkDbl07sledges: changes made with your hidden feature. ;) No more parsing needed to be done by my script. :) Thanks12:18
vgradestarkDbl07: thanks, will help me12:22
mal-sledges: nice that those plaintext logs were hidden ;)12:26
sledgesmal-: i see nothing nice in that:))12:26
sledgesstarkDbl07: all: how about a brutal crawler option: pull in all pasties too :D12:27
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sledgeswould help finding common corner cases among straces and backtraces12:29
starkDbl07sledges: you mean pastebin links?12:31
sledgesthey could reside in a separate folder, with filename pointing to the conversation timestamp/file they came from12:31
sledgess/pointing to/constructed from/12:32
starkDbl07sledges: sounds to be great idea. will look at it.12:33
sledgesespecially when some pasties expire12:33
sledgesstarkDbl07: you'd ease our daily life like that :)12:33
sledgesand also we should add common problems to more often12:34
sledgeshaving greppable pasties would make faq richer, as we'd spot the same issues popping up easier12:37
starkDbl07sledges: started out the local plaintext archive idea bcoz of the same required greppable feature necessity. :)12:39
sledgestoo true, just taking it a level further;)12:39
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starkDbl07sledges: fetching the pastebins done, final touch left, will push soon. Thanks for your idea. :)12:48
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vgradesledges: yes, can't remember what the groups is off hand. Will be on a device later to test wlan13:02
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starkDbl07sledges: everyone: updated the script to include maintaining pastebins archive. ''. Have been a bit lazy :), it scans irc logs at every run, but already downloaded links are skipped from downloading.13:54
starkDbl07just run './' for usage help.13:55
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mal-maybe also other common pastebin like sites should be supported14:07
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sledgesno doubt;) free to chip in:)14:07
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vgradenice article at
sledgesthe reminiscence:)15:27
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vgradeworth a proper translation15:30
Nokius|jolla_vgrade: it's abiut the goid old time series90 *.* and the 770 oh yeah the n800 was my best friend when i was young15:32
Nokius|jolla_fun fact had a 770 but no wifi at home and it was my first Linux device ever15:33
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sledgesreminds of
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Nokius|jolla_=( Lauta was nice sadly we never saw it in real.15:48
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Nokius|jolla_cu later15:57
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itviewerAsk a question,Why some functions doesn't work after transplantation follow HADK?17:16
klopsi-u3hello itviewer, stay in channel for a while, maybe someone will understand your questino17:18
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carepackitviewer: hi itviewer, if I understand you correct, the whole porting  is a work in progress thing. So some instructions maybe have changed. What's youre problem?17:20
dwangoACcarepack: Hi!  Any word on a new Nexus 4 build?  (Sledges had some good info, but I figured I'd check with you)17:22
itviewerI mean,for example,in this link,
itviewerwhy Some features are not available17:23
itviewerSorry for my english17:24
dwangoACitviewer: What features are not available?17:24
itviewerPart marked in red17:25
dwangoACitviewer: Is there a feature you need that does not work?17:25
dwangoACitviewer: I don't understand your question.  Some features are not yet complete. Some features will require community support.17:25
yacukengood evening17:28
dwangoACyacuken: Good mid-morning! :)17:28
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dwangoACEr... I still don't know what itviewer was asking17:29
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dwangoACitviewer: Did you have a specific question?17:30
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klopsi-u3yes dwangoAC, "why are some [phone] features not available"17:33
dwangoACklopsi-u3: Heh17:33
klopsi-u3i dont know how to answer that17:33
dwangoACklopsi-u3: Indeed, no one could, without knowing which phone and which feature17:33
yacukentry to build wlan as module. set CONFIG_PRONTO_WLAN=m does not effect.
dwangoACyacuken: =m?17:34
dwangoACyacuken: Wouldn't it be =y or =n?17:34
dwangoAC(Perhaps I don't know how that particular CONFIG_ works...)17:35
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yacukendwangoAC: cm kernel source have =y. omni kernel have =m and pronto_wlan.ko builds correctly. cm kernel ignoring me?17:38
dwangoACyacuken: OK, I clearly don17:38
dwangoACdon't know much about that config then :)17:38
dwangoACyacuken: Out of curiousity, what should =m do?17:38
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yacukendwangoAC: built-in(y) exclude(n) module(m)17:41
dwangoACOK, just now figured out what you are trying to do.  I'm afraid I can't be of help, though.17:42
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itviewerIf I want to be an OEM,  Before start the work,I want know is it matured in technology for port SailfishOS to an Android device17:45
dwangoACitviewer: Ah, that adds a lot of clarity.17:45
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dwangoACitviewer: I would recommend getting a supported device and doing an installation to get a feel for how those missing features will actually impact you.  Because SailfishOS is open-source, you can put in the engineering effort to implement any missing features you need.17:46
dwangoACitviewer: I am just a SailfishOS user, so please do not take what I have to say as being authoratative.17:47
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dwangoACitviewer: I run SailfishOS on my Nexus 4 and there are a few features that are missing that have an impact on me as a user, but I am still able to use the device as my primary device.17:48
dwangoACitviewer: Do you have a specific Android device you would like to port SailfishOS to?17:49
itvieweryes,but before start to port,I want to figure out the  status SailfishOS on Android devices17:51
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dwangoACitviewer: You have to be more specific. :)18:03
dwangoACitviewer: Every single Android device is different.18:03
dwangoACitviewer: Each device will have unique hardware that may or may not be supported; the chart you linked should give you a good idea of what to expect for a specific device.18:04
itviewerok,I understand,thank you very much18:05
dwangoACitviewer: If you have specific hardware in mind, please feel free to mention it here and I'm sure someone from Jolla will be able to give you advice.18:06
dwangoAC(Or one of the community engineers.)18:06
jcbjoeanyone with a real jolla here ?18:07
dwangoACjcbjoe: I keep trying to figure out how to get one here in the states but no one seems to want to sell me one for Bitcoin. :)18:08
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jcbjoedwangoAC: i got mine from uk amazon .. you go to forward2me website and you pay like 5 bucks for a uk address and when you purcahse something from amazon uk you put in the address from forward2 me and it forwards to the US18:09
dwangoACjcbjoe: Interesting18:10
klopsi-u3that is way cheaper than other forwarding services i found18:10
dwangoACjcbjoe: I'd rather buy one second-hand to avoid that trouble, but then again I'm probably causing more trouble by being a Bitcoin user :)18:10
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StoccoHello, I am using the Nexus 5 with alpha 8 sailfish. Someone can tell me if there is a way to run the APK using the Cyanogem that already installed. Or even a way to start the Alien Dalvik (Jolla)?18:18
dwangoACStocco: I have found no way at all to run Alien Dalvik18:18
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dwangoACStocco: (In my case, on a Nexus 4)18:18
dwangoACStocco: You can multiboot, though18:18
locusfwait for the apkenv18:18
StoccoI ask because if I try to start the the Alien it conflicts with the running processes of Cyanogem.18:19
dwangoACStocco: Uh... how did you get Alien on there in the first place?18:19
locusfwont be a master key but could have basic stuff18:19
dwangoAC(I think I might be confused about what you're trying / have tried to do)18:19
dwangoAClocusf: Timeframe on that?18:19
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locusfdwangoAC: not my software, sorry :)18:20
dwangoAClocusf: No worries :)18:20
dwangoACI'm always excited to hear about new developments, my problem is usually that I'm far too distracted with way too many other projects (everything from OpenStack to NetHack TAS work to AGDQ fundraiser preparations to Bitcoin to pinball)18:21
carepackStocco: no known way atm for this.18:21
dwangoACAnd trying to fit SailfishOS in has always been a bit of a challenge, but being a loyal N900 user I'm forcing room into my schedule for it :18:21
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dwangoACcarepack: BTW, I'm on beta 3 for Nexus 4 and it *is* better than beta 2, but I'm still seeing the same issues with vibration only being a very short blip and missing calls, and I'm also unable to sync contacts for one of my Google accounts which is a regression from beta 218:22
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dwangoACcarepack: Any word on something after beta 3?18:22
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carepackmmmmhhh. The problem is atm that the background get's squares instead of diamonds.18:24
dwangoACcarepack: Gets squares instead of diamonds?18:24
carepackwant to wait until it's fixed. But it seems that this bug came out of the closed source part.18:24
dwangoACcarepack: Umm... is it a critical issue? :)18:25
carepackyes. if you open the messaging app for example and you're looking at the bacakground you can see very tiny diamonds. In the last test build they we're getting squares18:25
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dwangoACHeh - so I ask again, is it a critical issue? :)18:26
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StoccodwangoAC: Getting the Alien copying the Jolla.18:27
carepackdwangoAC: not critical ;)18:28
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Nokiussledges: did the strace -f show any hints to get over the freez status?18:35
mal-carepack: I get squares also on my own port18:36
mal-did not notice that before, just compared it to jolla18:37
mal-carepack: are the squares on your device formed of smaller matrix of points18:38
Nokiusvgrade: :D twitter gone will today about the 1+ port wondering if SFOS if today trending18:45
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vgradeNokius: some of the blogs are very inaccurate19:12
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Nokiusvgrade: hats sad what are they posting?19:13
Nokiusmy sync with anders3408 about the find5 UT build is also not so help full he told me it was working out of the box :-/ (graphics)19:14
Nokiushe only was wondering about the n1 dependance19:16
vgradeNokius: well some are reporting it as an offical Jolla release which looks bad from a Jolla point of view as much is not working.19:17
Nokiusyeap thats bad19:17
Nokiusirrc some was telling you work for Jolla on twitter19:18
vgradeNokius: yea, I got in touch with the first one to post that so they could correct but it wasn't and now more are reporting19:19
Nokiusmay add it to the video "BUILD MADE BY COMMUNITY" and add link to HADK :D19:23
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starkDbl07hello guys, a simple script to maintain locally archive of IRC logs, along with included pastebin, piratepad and opensuse pasties. ''. You may check out if it seems useful.19:25
starkDbl07sledges: other pasties may get included in the script in future. ;)19:27
vgradeNokius: added the details. it did link to the HADK via the piratepad but it now make it clear its not an official Jolla release19:27
vgradeyacuken: , allthough I had problems like you getting it to take. I have both prima and pronto as M now I think.  Testng now19:31
carepackmal-: have to recheck.19:33
carepackbut iirc yes19:34
carepackmal: which device?19:35
mal-carepack: xperia pro (iyokan)19:35
Nokiusvgrade: no I mean directly into the video like some guys add Subcribe or ...19:35
carepacknexus 7 got this problem too. it seems to depend on closed source parts19:36
vgradeNokius: ah right, will check this out19:39
Nokiusvgrade: if some just embedded the video the viewer will see this (let's hope others are not eable to disable it)19:41
Nokiusvgrade: iirc it is easy to do but last time I did that is years ago19:42
Nokiusoh there is still a 8 year old video on yt I uploaded :-/ how time go's on19:43
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Nokiusvgrade: update this als well :)
vgradeyacuken: wlan up19:49
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sledgesstarkDbl07: awesome much thanks!19:50
sledgesNokius: strace -f didn't help :(19:51
sledgesNokius: which cm are you flashing underneath?19:52
Nokiussledges: cm1120141008M1119:52
jcbjoei can't ind my nexus 4 pffft19:53
sledgesjcbjoe: sounds like a dead ringer (SCRN)19:54
Nokiussledges: also my sync with andres3408 how did the ut port was not bring a point he wwas wondering about the n1 kernel but I check that19:54
sledgesNokius: nokia n1?19:54
Nokiusoppo n119:54
sledgesah:Dno idea19:55
sledgesis that the unified kernel for oppos finds?19:55
sledgesiirc they had one..19:55
Nokiusnokia n1 is from Foxconn19:55
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Nokius I checked it the BoardConfig required n1 which is required by the this Boardconfig
Nokiusor it's a foxconn device with a Nokia label :P19:56
sledgesino ino ;)19:56
Nokiusbut we don't have to start this :P19:56
* vgrade wonders audio routing or camera19:56
sledgesvgrade: incoming calls?;)19:57
sledgesso peeps can use 3g19:57
Nokiusaudio so the calls are posibile :D19:57
sledgesthey said outcoming calls are possble19:57
sledges*outgoing :P19:57
Nokiusbut no audio19:58
sledgesjust no ui indication about incoming call19:58
sledgesah ok;)19:58
sledgesNokius: so what do you have under kernel/oppo/ ?19:58
vgradewell I have the hammerhead audio configs at present so scraping the right ones from 1+ might be an easy win19:58
Nokiussledges: LOOK!
Nokiusthere is the damn problem or?19:59
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Nokiussledges: what you mean?20:00
Nokiussledges: here this
sledgesNokius: you need to find out at what point the kernel warning happens20:02
sledgesare you back on the setup that test_hwcomposer dies after 1 second?20:02
Nokiussledges: this "/home/user/mer/android/droid/kernel/oppo/n1/kernel/irq/manage.c" is from the Build box not on the device20:02
Nokiusno  freezy20:02
Nokiussledges: you ask about the irq few days back may this is the little peace :-/20:04
* Nokius excited20:04
Nokiussledges: soory on freezy not no freezy :D20:05
Nokiussledges: it happend when I start the test_hwcomposer20:07
vgradewhoa the 1+ forum guys are quick20:08
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vgradetime for some refreshment#20:08
Nokiussledges: no it's not reproducible when starting test_hw...20:10
Nokiusmay it's the part but have to et some sleep now thanks to anders3408 and sledges20:18
Nokiuswondering which of the IRQ Config is missing :-/20:18
Nokiuscu tomorrow20:19
mal-Nokius: those error happen long before any test_hwcomposer20:19
Nokiusvgrade: good luck with the audio (:20:19
mal-maybe the effect of those stays20:19
Nokiusmal-: so the hope is little .. just saw also some waring from clock-local.c20:20
Nokiuslet us try this tomorrow we only can win or? ;)20:21
Nokiusonly wondring with flag is mising alot is activated .:-/20:21
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sledgesgn8 Nokius , bit busy this evening;) but you need to come back to reproducible case to test_hwcomposer working for 1 second to take it from there21:11
sledgeskernel warnings do happen, but usually are non-critical21:11
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sledgesi also have a hunch when test_hwcomposer starts behaving, it's time for minimer, and those might not freeze. as test_hwcomposer in some hw cases is totally broken (like on nexus5(!))21:15
sledgesbut there is research going internally to put that test_ to sanity too on those platforms21:16
gogetagood evening peeps21:16
vgradegogeta: \o21:18
vgradegogeta: did you find those g watch notes?21:19
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gogetanot i was too busy this days i've also missed last community meetings21:26
gogetabut nothing special21:27
gogetai've started from a recovery base21:27
gogetawe need to deal with aosp adaptation21:27
gogetaI've started my own piratepad for lg g3 d85521:29
gogetavgrade, QCOM_BSP 1 is used for ?21:35
vgradedevices which use that define in grallo.h21:36
gogetabut changes something in gralloc21:37
gogetaIs the first time i see QCOM_BSP21:37
vgradeif device defines QCOM_BSP in its config then a new function pointer is added to the gralloc interface.21:40
gogetai've something for sailfishos memes21:41
gogetabut who creates ?21:41
vgradeyou need to match the calling structure with the binary android driver so the extra function pointer is significant.21:42
vgradewho creates what21:42
gogetasailfishos memes21:42
* vgrade follows21:43
gogetalook at this21:47
gogetaI like SFOS and I don't miss android .... facepalm21:48
gogetaeven youtube21:48
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