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| yacuken | vgrade: hi. any news about ril? can't do nothing (( | 01:59 |
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| Nokius|mobile | yacuken_off: okay will try it today in tje afternoon I using cm11 | 05:40 |
| Nokius|mobile | yacuken_off: all is cm in my manifest | 05:40 |
| Nokius|mobile | Morning | 05:40 |
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| Nokius|mobile | Morning | 05:41 |
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| alin | morning | 06:35 |
| Nokius|mobile | o/ | 06:42 |
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| carepack | morning | 06:45 |
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| BluesLee | alin: issue with keyboard prediction solved but alpha9 has a bigger bug (reappeared): mobile data configuration is dropped after a reboot | 08:37 |
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| alin | morgen | 08:45 |
| carepack | morning | 08:45 |
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| BluesLee | alin: hello, did you see my note above? | 08:52 |
| alin | BluesLee: nope | 08:52 |
| BluesLee | alin: issue with keyboard prediction solved but alpha9 has a bigger bug (reappeared): mobile data configuration is dropped after a reboot | 08:53 |
| alin | BluesLee: that I do not know to have ever been solved | 08:53 |
| alin | BluesLee: or reported... as a matter of fact | 08:53 |
| BluesLee | alin: i think it was solved, sledges? | 08:54 |
| BluesLee | alin: for some reasons i have to modify my mibile access data | 08:55 |
| BluesLee | alin: there was a similar issue with wifi | 08:56 |
| alin | BluesLee: maybe the fix was just temp added or in some merge things got broken | 08:56 |
| BluesLee | alin: what is the nickname of nexus4? | 08:57 |
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| BluesLee | alin: need to check the bug trackers | 08:58 |
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| BluesLee | sledges: ping | 09:17 |
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| Nokius|mobile | BluesLee: he is afk till weekend | 09:30 |
| BluesLee | thank you | 09:31 |
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| stephg | BluesLee mako | 09:35 |
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| vgrade | yacuken_off: not yet, I talked to the guy who has experiance of dialer at Jolla and he suggested to look at getting some dbus logs. I got sidetracked yesterday but back on that today. I see you added my changes to git, thanks, that will be useful when sledges returns and we can get them into mer-hybris | 10:36 |
| vgrade | yacuken_off: one thing I've noticed is poor power consumption. I noticed that droid-init is trying continuously to start a couple of services due to them crashing I think. If you had time to look at why they are not starting and if they are not required for sailfish disabling them. That may help the device go into idle | 10:38 |
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| mal- | spiiroin: I was looking at the usage of other buttons on my phone and noticed that the hw keyboard is in the same input device as most of the other buttons (volume, camera, home, back, settings), if we somehow make the hw keyboard availability to change when it is slid in/out will it affect those other buttons also? | 11:07 |
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| spiiroin | mal-: I'm not sure where/how those special buttons are handled, but I think the availability state should not affect how they are handled. | 11:24 |
| mal- | ok | 11:25 |
| spiiroin | mal-: i.e. the availability = virtual kbd behavior only | 11:25 |
| mal- | those buttons don't seem to do anything yet | 11:25 |
| mal- | except volume | 11:25 |
| spiiroin | where are those vol keys located physically? on the slider part? or somewhere on the side? | 11:26 |
| mal- | on the side of the phone | 11:27 |
| spiiroin | aww... and they are reported in the same evdev node as qwerty stuff? | 11:27 |
| mal- | yes | 11:27 |
| mal- | http://pastebin.com/aW0iqjFq | 11:28 |
| mal- | that from evdev_trace | 11:28 |
| spiiroin | basically means the volume key policy will not block them ... | 11:28 |
| mal- | which means what? | 11:31 |
| spiiroin | mce grabs volume key device when "there is no reason to expect volume changes" -> ui does not get the events | 11:32 |
| spiiroin | to avoid grabbing devices that should not be under that policy -> the rules for "this is volkey device" probing are as tight as possible | 11:33 |
| spiiroin | now this probably means the volume keys go through even if the display is off / no music playback -> volume level get changed somewhere up the stack anyway | 11:34 |
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| mal- | ok | 11:34 |
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| spiiroin | more like annoyance than show stopper, but need to think about it at some time | 11:35 |
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| kjokinie | sledges: lbt: new try https://github.com/mer-hybris/hybris-boot/pull/48 | 12:26 |
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| p0wnd | Yooo vgrade, saw my post at opo forums? | 12:29 |
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| vgrade | p0wnd: sorry to hear any luck with posting the issue at together.lolla.com | 12:33 |
| vgrade | p0wnd: sorry to hear any luck with posting the issue at together.jolla.com | 12:34 |
| vgrade | p0wnd: did you try talking to your local wlan admins | 12:35 |
| p0wnd | vgrade: Yes I did, however they are pretty idiotic about the fact I use a foreign OS and keep telling me I should get another phone. So I gave the response I run android and Sailfish on my phone and then I had to explain how I did that.. So we got off-topic and I don't have a solution on the problem. | 12:39 |
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| Nokius|mobile | p0wnd: what is your problem ? is it preshared wifi password ? | 13:01 |
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| vgrade | p0wnd: which of these are you trying to connect to, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Authentication_Protocol | 13:07 |
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| vgrade | what did I say | 13:08 |
| Nokius|mobile | =( | 13:11 |
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| vgrade | yacuken_off: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/sailfish-os-for-oneplus-one.279537/page-50#post-10788145 | 13:21 |
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| p0wnd | It's my school network. It uses peap. | 13:24 |
| vgrade | yacuken_off: we can disable time_daemon for sure, we did that on NEXUS 5 | 13:28 |
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| p0wnd | Yo vgrade, I'll make a thread tomorrow about the issue on together jolla | 13:30 |
| zGrr | moin :) | 13:30 |
| vgrade | p0wnd: check these answers first to make sure, https://together.jolla.com/questions/query:peap/ | 13:31 |
| vgrade | zGrr: \o | 13:31 |
| vgrade | yacuken_off: rng looks like a permissions error, I seem to recall this so may be in the logs | 13:31 |
| p0wnd | I'll look into it now. Gonna do some tweaks. I can test it Tuesday. | 13:33 |
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| GodGinrai | Hey vgrade, is there a reason why the sailfishos port chugs battery like water after a marathon? | 13:36 |
| mal- | does it do that even when the phone is just idle? | 13:39 |
| vgrade | GodGinrai: we've just been talking about that. There are 3 services which are being started and restarted after crashing all the time | 13:40 |
| vgrade | GodGinrai: this activity may stop the phone from entering lower power modes | 13:41 |
| GodGinrai | mal-: yup | 13:41 |
| GodGinrai | vgrade: I see... | 13:41 |
| vgrade | GodGinrai: I've also seen poor power performance mentioned on other ports for 1+ and some ports have better performance (and extra kernel flags) | 13:41 |
| vgrade | GodGinrai: once we clean up the userspace we can then look closer at the kernel | 13:42 |
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| mal- | my phone's battery lasts about a week on idle | 13:43 |
| vgrade | GodGinrai: we have the same userspace as the Nexus 5 (which has good battery performance) so the issue in theory is in kernel config | 13:43 |
| GodGinrai | I see | 13:44 |
| vgrade | GodGinrai: its on the list after voice call and there is some work already going on if you can help | 13:44 |
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| Nokius|mobile | vgrade: time_daemon isvlaso one of the thinks i have to stop =) qrngd already | 13:46 |
| Nokius|mobile | thx ccout | 13:46 |
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| Kukulapraline | Hi, I have a mer sdk asks login and password that do? | 14:16 |
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| Kumulapraline | Hi, I have a mer sdk asks login and password that do? | 14:59 |
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| mal- | Kumulapraline: what are you trying to do? | 15:01 |
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| Kumulapraline | Want sailfish OS on the Xperia Neo, ion and the Xperia Z3 compact | 15:05 |
| Kumulapraline | Installed on ubuntu sailfish sdk, as followed in hadk , I went to mer sdk , and there is a request login and password | 15:07 |
| mal- | after which command? | 15:07 |
| Kumulapraline | In Oracle launched the virtual machine mer sdk, pressed f2+ctrl, open a window similar to the console. There asks me Username and Password | 15:12 |
| mal- | sorry but I don't understand what kind of setup you have | 15:13 |
| Kumulapraline | Can somebody make a video tutorial in youtube how to port a using hadk sailfish os on your android smartphone? I think that would have played a huge and valuable role in the development of the project | 15:15 |
| Kumulapraline | Thanks for the info | 15:15 |
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| mal- | personally I've never understood the point of video tutorials, normally text tutorial (with pictures is needed) is much simpler and more practical | 15:17 |
| mal- | *if | 15:17 |
| Kumulapraline | And Yes, by the way, mal-, I follow the development of sailfish OS in Xperia Pro. I hotels would like to learn, stable OS running on the smartphone? | 15:19 |
| mal- | Kumulapraline: you followed to the chapter 4 of hadk completely and still have problems? where did you install mer-sdk i.e. what is in your MER_ROOT variable | 15:20 |
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| mal- | Kumulapraline: xperia pro is mostly working, some features are still missing of which audio is the biggest problem | 15:21 |
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| Nokius | 0/ | 17:32 |
| Nokius | evening | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | evening Nokius | 17:34 |
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| vgrade | \o Nokius | 17:36 |
| Nokius | mal-: sounds like Kumulapraline tried virtual box from Oracle :-s | 17:36 |
| vgrade | Nokius: looks like he's installed the app sdk | 17:36 |
| Nokius | vgrade: yeap | 17:36 |
| Nokius | and there a some local key but I have to look up the $path :) | 17:37 |
| Nokius | oh I was wrong I have only other over lefts in my dmesg | 17:38 |
| Nokius | Xperia Neo is an unoffical | 17:39 |
| Nokius | o/ Stskeeps vgrade | 17:39 |
| Nokius | let's see If we can catch BT to night | 17:43 |
| * Nokius hope you guys had also a nice sunny day :) | 17:43 | |
| vgrade | Nokius: glorious here today | 17:44 |
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| Nokius | Berlin too | 17:45 |
| Stskeeps | nice and warm here in amsterdam too | 17:45 |
| Nokius | :) | 17:45 |
| Nokius | need a Jolla SFOS summer cap now | 17:45 |
| vgrade | I've moved to N5 for my daily device to see how its working as a daily driver, Will keep Jolla with me for backup | 17:47 |
| vgrade | but sim is in N5 | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | a great step | 17:48 |
| Nokius | vgrade: (╯°□°）╯ | 17:50 |
| mal- | Nokius: could be, that was not enough information to know that he was exactly doing | 17:55 |
| Nokius | mal-: yeap sounds to me he wanted a quick solution to use it :) like scp and go sadly he is gone :( | 17:56 |
| mal- | maybe he'll come back | 17:56 |
| mal- | xperia neo is maintained on the same site as my device's cm | 17:57 |
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| Nokius | mal- finger x | 18:07 |
| mal- | Nokius: ? | 18:09 |
| Nokius | that Kumulapraline returns | 18:10 |
| mal- | ah :) | 18:10 |
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| Nokius | lets see pre-ALPHA-IV | 18:24 |
| energycsdx | evening | 18:25 |
| Nokius | o/ energycsdx | 18:26 |
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| Nokius | hallo hci_smd :P | 18:43 |
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| Nokius | vgrade: now echo 1 > /sys/module/hci_smd/parameters/hcismd_set | 18:48 |
| Nokius | :D Jolla sees Jolla hhh | 18:50 |
| Nokius | THANSK yacuken_off vakkov | 18:51 |
| Nokius | THANSK yacuken_off vgrade | 18:51 |
| GodGinrai | s/SK/KS | 18:52 |
| Nokius | GodGinrai: ? | 18:56 |
| mal- | that was a fix for your type | 18:56 |
| mal- | *typo | 18:56 |
| GodGinrai | XD | 18:56 |
| Nokius | s/SK/KS | 18:56 |
| Nokius | :-s | 18:56 |
| mal- | Nokius: have you looked into sensors yet on your port? with test_sensors for example? | 18:58 |
| Nokius | mal-: no | 18:58 |
| Nokius | who to use this typo cleaner | 18:58 |
| Nokius | mal-: tird test_sensors but get Segmentation fault | 18:59 |
| mal- | get a backtrace | 19:00 |
| Nokius | sad fact telnet and ssh via usb are gone in my latest zip but wifi was a last entry | 19:00 |
| mal- | also strace could be useful for sensors if backtrace does not look helpful | 19:03 |
| Nokius | mal-: will try my best | 19:05 |
| Nokius | had no BT device in my house like speaker | 19:05 |
| mal- | did you try file transfer between phones? | 19:06 |
| Nokius | no looks like it is not working to pair | 19:10 |
| Nokius | say conneting | 19:11 |
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| Nokius | mal-: build new zip and try again | 19:13 |
| Nokius | s/build/create | 19:14 |
| mal- | you are quite eager to always create a new zip, I usually do a lot of trials and modifications before I create a new zip | 19:16 |
| Nokius | mal-: may true | 19:17 |
| mal- | but my way causes that I sometimes forget to add some modifications to my build tree | 19:17 |
| alin | mal-: script everything | 19:17 |
| alin | mal-: in this way you at least have traces of them | 19:17 |
| Nokius | but it's only step 7 - 8 after editing | 19:18 |
| Nokius | alin: :) | 19:18 |
| alin | Nokius: I have a change... I do a patch and I create a script | 19:18 |
| Nokius | alin: found out you left shool when I started with school (your g+ account) | 19:19 |
| Nokius | alin: I bad at scripting :( | 19:19 |
| mal- | alin: script does not help if I forget what modifications I have done | 19:19 |
| mal- | since those modifications are only on the phone | 19:19 |
| Nokius | that's why I sync my work :D after I cahnge the *.rc I had already a mess :D | 19:21 |
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| mal- | currently I have a problem that I can't remember how I got alsa to work on my phone | 19:23 |
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| Nokius | is history a help? | 19:27 |
| mal- | I tried that a long time ago and I have installed sfos after that also | 19:28 |
| mal- | *reinstalled | 19:28 |
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| mal- | looks like it freezes for some reason | 19:30 |
| Nokius | mal-: known issue here to reflash history gone | 19:31 |
| mal- | maybe I'll just continue trying to figure out why pulseaudio does not work | 19:32 |
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| Nokius | mal-: check ps aux | grep pulseaudio | 19:34 |
| mal- | I have disabled pulseaudio because it does not work | 19:34 |
| Nokius | ah | 19:34 |
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| Guhl | hi, this is probably well known to you | 19:42 |
| Guhl | but does anybody know why I get a: | 19:43 |
| Guhl | /tmp/ks-script-H3apON: line 8: ./sailfish-release: No such file or directory | 19:43 |
| Guhl | and finally an empty zip when packaging with mic | 19:43 |
| Guhl | (the tar.bz2 is there and complete) | 19:44 |
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| mal- | Guhl: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos-porters/%23sailfishos-porters.2015-02-20.log.html#t2015-02-20T15:51:50 | 19:45 |
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| Guhl | mal-, thanks | 19:46 |
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| Antartica | mal-:Hello. I have a question to about your port to the Xperia Pro. What is the ram usage at boot? Are you using swap? | 19:50 |
| alin | mal-: I never left school... | 19:50 |
| alin | mal-: even now i am in university | 19:51 |
| Guhl | who did a port to the xperia pro | 19:53 |
| mal- | Antartica: I'll reboot and see what it uses, I normally have swap with zram but seems that I have forgetten to activate it | 19:54 |
| Antartica | mal-: Thanks. | 19:54 |
| mal- | Guhl: why not? it has a physical keyboard that I like | 19:55 |
| Nokius | mal-: get a Problem with paring may I need some more kernel flags | 19:55 |
| mal- | Guhl: oops, misread your comment | 19:55 |
| Guhl | yeah i know i have one but i am still working on the htc vision | 19:55 |
| Guhl | (or better say again) | 19:55 |
| Nokius | :) telnet is working again | 19:57 |
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| mal- | Antartica: http://pastebin.com/902tkWqT | 20:01 |
| mal- | that's without zram swap | 20:02 |
| mal- | I need to make so that zram is automatically activated | 20:02 |
| Nokius | yacuken_off: mh I got BT up other device is visibile on find5 and on 3rd devices but paring fails (didn't tird this so fare is it a try worth?) thanks in advance | 20:05 |
| Antartica | mal-: wow! 90MB free is a lot more than I was expecting! Ok, so it may be able to even launch some light apps without apps... that makes me very happy. Thanks a lot. | 20:05 |
| Antartica | s/without apps/without swap/ | 20:06 |
| mal- | I can do quite a lot without it | 20:07 |
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| Nokius | gn8 porters Stskeeps have great time in AMS ;) | 20:07 |
| mal- | Antartica: just curious why do you ask? | 20:07 |
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| Antartica | Some time ago I was pondering to try to follow the hadk to make a port for the xperia Pro, but after seeing the result of a "free" command in another phone I thought that the Pro would not have enouh memory for sailfish. | 20:08 |
| Antartica | mal-: I'm very happy to be proven wrong :) | 20:08 |
| mal- | :) | 20:08 |
| mal- | do you want to it? | 20:09 |
| mal- | I can put the built image somewhere some time | 20:09 |
| Antartica | mal: OTH, I did try to follow the HADK, but something went awry and I dodn't pursue it... didn't have enough tme anyway. | 20:10 |
| Antartica | mal-: If you manage to get sound working, I will gladly flash it (the Pro is my main phone) | 20:11 |
| mal- | ok, then sound is essential | 20:11 |
| mal- | I'll continue working on it | 20:12 |
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| mal- | Antartica: I started porting around christmas, so it's taken more that 3 months, but of course not all the time | 20:12 |
| Antartica | mal-: thanks a lot. | 20:13 |
| mal- | Antartica: the port needs a ext4 partition on the sdcard because the internal storage is so small | 20:14 |
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| Antartica | mal-: You have made a lot of progress in those months... | 20:14 |
| mal- | it took a long time to get display working, and without that I couldn't work on many things | 20:15 |
| Antartica | mal-: legacyXperia CM12 a LegacyXperiaAOSP 5.1 also need that... it is very reasonable | 20:15 |
| mal- | so I read from xda | 20:15 |
| Antartica | mal-: I mean, an ext4 partition in the sdcard | 20:16 |
| Guhl99_ | mal-, is your stuff published somewhere | 20:16 |
| mal- | Guhl99_: no public image yet | 20:16 |
| Guhl99_ | not so interested in an image, more in i.e your pulseaudio configs and maybe patches | 20:17 |
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| mal- | Guhl99_: I use the same configs as other devices, pulseaudio patches are upstreamed mostly | 20:18 |
| Guhl99_ | ok i missed a lot the last 5 month but i had to take a break for personal reasons | 20:19 |
| Nokius | mal-: starce sensors https://gist.github.com/Nokius/294bd43afbf7198f6026 | 20:20 |
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| Guhl99_ | but it's good to know that someone is working on a phone that is using a similar platform and has similar features | 20:21 |
| Guhl99_ | like i.e. making mce aware of opening/closing the keyboard | 20:22 |
| mal- | Nokius: looks like it does not find the library, look in /system/lib/hw/ for sensors*.so | 20:23 |
| mal- | Guhl99_: that works with a little hack | 20:23 |
| Guhl99_ | mal-, is there already a solution for making the virtual keyboard disappear | 20:23 |
| Nokius | mal-: thanks will check | 20:24 |
| mal- | Guhl99_: a hack, not a correct solution yet, I understood it is going be made in the near future | 20:24 |
| Guhl99_ | beside my demon that works with spiiroins hal signals | 20:24 |
| Guhl99_ | whats your hack? | 20:25 |
| mal- | I'm using your daemon for now, until the real solution appears | 20:25 |
| Guhl99_ | ic | 20:25 |
| swex | hi there | 20:25 |
| mal- | sorry but I consider that a little bit of a hack :) | 20:26 |
| Guhl99_ | thats what it is :-) | 20:26 |
| Antartica | mal-: ok then; I will monitor the Adaptations/libhybris wiki page for that audio column to become green and then I will pop-up here again requesting an image to test. Thanks a lot for your work. | 20:26 |
| Nokius | mal-: sensors.msm8960.so is there | 20:26 |
| Guhl99_ | mal-, do you have audio in working? | 20:26 |
| mal- | Antartica: I'll post on xda when it's done also | 20:26 |
| Antartica | mal-: perfect. | 20:27 |
| mal- | Guhl99_: problems with pulseaudio | 20:27 |
| Guhl99_ | me too | 20:27 |
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| Nokius | mal-: gdb https://gist.github.com/Nokius/1341ddd6d8bbc0e586ed | 20:28 |
| Antartica | Bye. | 20:28 |
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| Guhl99_ | was hoping that someone fixed that while i was away ;-) | 20:28 |
| mal- | Nokius: try to create a symlink named sensors.oem.so that points to sensors.msm8960.so | 20:28 |
| Nokius | o/ night guys happy hacking | 20:28 |
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| mal- | Guhl99_: what kind of problem do you have with pulseaudio | 20:28 |
| Nokius | mal-: okay will try this tomorrow :) THANKS for your help | 20:28 |
| mal- | Nokius: ok | 20:29 |
| lpotter | Nokius: it's looking for /system/lib/hw/sensors.MSM8960.so | 20:29 |
| mal- | ah, so it's looking for that but with capital letters | 20:29 |
| lpotter | hmm also no caps | 20:29 |
| Guhl99_ | mal-, need to find the exact problem again, but i had sound out working but as soon as i enabled the input sink | 20:30 |
| lpotter | hmm access("/system/lib/hw/sensors.msm8960.so", R_OK) = 0 | 20:30 |
| Guhl99_ | pulseaudio crashed | 20:30 |
| mal- | lpotter: so it finds it | 20:30 |
| Guhl99_ | i started working (debuging) but than had to quit working on it | 20:31 |
| mal- | lpotter: strange that it tries to find /system/lib/hw/sensors.oem.so also | 20:31 |
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| mal- | Guhl99_: that can be debugged when you get there, my problem is that pulseaudio just stops responding completely | 20:32 |
| Guhl99_ | mal-, i just finished my first 1.1.2.16 build and i'll try to start working on pulseaudio again tomorrow | 20:34 |
| mal- | I'm just rebuilding pulseaudio-modules-droid with even more debug output | 20:35 |
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| mal- | interesting, I got audio with pulseaudio, after I disabled suspending completely in pulseaudio | 20:51 |
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| mal- | headset recognition does not seem to be working | 21:12 |
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