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| carepack | morning! | 07:37 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 10:33 |
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| nh1402 | morning | 10:57 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | goodmorning guys | 11:02 |
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| ParkerR | sledges: Hey hey | 13:06 |
| klopsi-u3 | hi | 13:06 |
| ParkerR | I think a while back somebody was working on Sailfish for the Moto G (falcon) Did anything ever come of this? My Moto G is now my spare phone and I've just been wanting to try new stuff on it. | 13:09 |
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| klopsi-u3 | dunno | 13:12 |
| mal- | ParkerR: looks like no success, if I read correctly from logs there was some problem that it rebooted during startup, but that should be possible to be solved with some work | 13:13 |
| ParkerR | mal-: Thanks. | 13:14 |
| mal- | the process causing that has to found out and fixed/diabled | 13:14 |
| mal- | +be | 13:14 |
| ParkerR | mal-: Haha I found me asking about it http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos-porters/%23sailfishos-porters.2014-10-10.log.html | 13:15 |
| mal- | there was also some more recent trials by glasserc | 13:16 |
| ParkerR | Aha yeah "glasserc Anyone have a good reference on the boot order before/after fastboot? I don't have an "init" script (this is on a falcon device)." | 13:17 |
| mal- | not sure where he needed that | 13:18 |
| mal- | ParkerR: looks like there is more about falcon in that link of yours | 13:19 |
| ParkerR | Yeah been reading that and this http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos-porters/%23sailfishos-porters.2015-01-24.log.html | 13:19 |
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| ParkerR | Good to see there is some interest | 13:24 |
| mal- | ParkerR: are you interested in trying to port sailfish yourself? | 13:27 |
| ParkerR | mal-: I'm more of an advanced user. I understand the underlying concepts and jargon but when it comes to actually digging into things I get lost | 13:28 |
| mal- | that's what this channel is for, getting help for difficult problems | 13:30 |
| mal- | when I started proting I had no knowledge of android, I only had linux experience and not very deep knowledge of that either | 13:31 |
| mal- | *porting | 13:31 |
| ParkerR | :D | 13:32 |
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| mal- | and now I have a mostly working port | 13:33 |
| klopsi-u3 | congrats mal- | 13:33 |
| ParkerR | That's about where I stand. Pretty into Linux and enjoy using it and figuring stuff out but when it comes to Android my mind just says nope, heh. | 13:34 |
| ParkerR | mal-: Indeed, congrats. | 13:34 |
| mal- | still some audio problems and other tiny things | 13:35 |
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| mal- | ParkerR: you might not need to know much of android, of course depends on what kind of problems you might have | 13:36 |
| MSameer | Nokius: no. use sailfish: not [sailfish] and for the bug fix use: sailfish: copy correct video.gep for bacon | 13:45 |
| MSameer | Nokius: I cannot find a way to edit the commit messages myself :/ | 13:46 |
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| alin | sledges: hi | 14:23 |
| carepack | revert the commit? and push it again with git commit -m "message"? | 14:23 |
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| sledges | hey ParkerR welcome back! | 14:37 |
| sledges | MSameer: git remote add nokius http://...nokius...; git branch nokiusbranch; git commit --amend; (or git rebase -i HEAD~2); #then create new PR | 14:37 |
| sledges | alin: hoy | 14:37 |
| sledges | git branch nokiusbranch -> git checkout nokiusbranch | 14:38 |
| sledges | and git fetch nokius; before that | 14:38 |
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| Taaeem | http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-makes-it-easier-to-install-a-custom-os-on-its-smartphones-605969/ nice move from Sony | 14:40 |
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| ikozzz | o/ | 14:41 |
| alin | sledges: ok I am in roaming... I can offer data for debug if you know anyone ready to investigate | 14:41 |
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| sledges | alin: /system/bin/logcat -b radio -v time |tee logcat.txt | 14:46 |
| sledges | run and then try to reproduce the problem | 14:46 |
| sledges | then check android radio logcat | 14:46 |
| sledges | and compare | 14:46 |
| alin | sledges: the problem is always reproduced... no data when in roaming | 14:46 |
| ParkerR | sledges: glad to be back! | 14:49 |
| mal- | btw, is there some way to fix the problem that ofono fails if sim card has pin enabled? | 14:50 |
| alin | sledges: Unable to open log device '/dev/log/radio': Not a directory | 14:51 |
| alin | as user or root | 14:51 |
| sledges | alin: rm /dev/log && ln -s /dev/alog /dev/log | 14:53 |
| mal- | pin number is asked but ofono cannot connect to network | 14:53 |
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| sledges | mal-: source is open, dig in:) can't suggest anything else than that for the time being | 15:00 |
| mal- | ok | 15:03 |
| sledges | and #ofono ofc | 15:03 |
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| hurdman_begins | hi | 15:05 |
| hurdman_begins | I do not know who I was talking about but the modular phone project has been removed from indigogo... | 15:08 |
| hurdman_begins | I'm not very surprised | 15:08 |
| ParkerR | hurdman_begins: Because it was bogus | 15:10 |
| ParkerR | From what I could tell | 15:10 |
| ParkerR | Ara is really the only one making progress/has working prototypes | 15:11 |
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| hurdman_begins | ParkerR: fonkraft says about 6 or 7 month to sell their own, it was just impossible ^^" with hot-swap RAM and others stuff ... | 15:12 |
| hurdman_begins | ( and only about 50 000 $ for R&D oO ) | 15:13 |
| Taaeem | Let's wait there are also PuzzlePhone and Vsenn both modular and from Finland | 15:13 |
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| hurdman_begins | the PuzzlePhone seems much more realistic | 15:14 |
| MSameer | sledges: too much work | 15:16 |
| GodGinrai | well, depends on your definition of "modular phone". Modu technically predated all of these, and went to market. They just didn't do well, and weren't modular at the component level. | 15:17 |
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| hurdman_begins | there's the ZTE Eco-Mobius too | 15:20 |
| Taaeem | And PuzzlePhone and Vsenn are both open for new operating systems eg. Sailfish | 15:20 |
| GodGinrai | I still wish we could get something close to the original PhoneBloks vision, as opposed to what Project Ara is trying to offer | 15:20 |
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| Taaeem | Yes but a sailfish port for Ara would be probably impossible I thino | 15:27 |
| Taaeem | Think* | 15:27 |
| GodGinrai | why is that? | 15:27 |
| hurdman_begins | GodGinrai: hardware could be much specific with closed firmware, perhaps ? | 15:29 |
| GodGinrai | hurdman_begins: but it's a google project. They'd receive flak for releasing a closed-firmware device when it's essentially an interchangeable nexus | 15:30 |
| hurdman_begins | GodGinrai: don't think it"s a nexus like, to control the unipro bus between the mainboard and the module, the probably should add some new specific chip | 15:32 |
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| Tassadar | vgrade_: sledges hey, sailfishos alpha 11 on n5 doesn't seem to work with multirom, starts booting, white LED starts to flash and then it reboots, http://hastebin.com/zekunobuva.txt last_kmsg, anything I can do to get more debug info? | 18:00 |
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| Tassadar | heh, I disabled the watchdog and it boots up just fine | 18:04 |
| Tassadar | interesting | 18:04 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | hi Tassadar | 18:08 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | wich one ? | 18:08 |
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| stephg | eveningles! | 18:08 |
| blueslee | tassader: Alpha 11 on N5 + multirom works fine here | 18:09 |
| Tassadar | weird | 18:10 |
| Tassadar | watchdog always shot it down for me | 18:10 |
| Tassadar | which cm am I supposed to use? still cm11 M9? | 18:10 |
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| Tassadar | uuh, apps work now, nice | 18:22 |
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| blueslee | sledges, alin: cameraplus on alpha 11crashes when recording a video | 18:41 |
| blueslee | known issue? before just audio was missing | 18:42 |
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| *** Nokius_ is now known as Nokius | 19:33 | |
| Nokius | o/ | 19:33 |
| klopsi-u3 | good evening Nokius | 19:34 |
| Nokius | :( again sightseeing this week | 19:36 |
| klopsi-u3 | what do you mean? | 19:36 |
| Nokius | sledges: you are a little git nerd :) did today a git dojo someone at work was sharing a web page for that I was surprised I made the first cheaper (i3 is great has the feature I miss with awesome looks like I will settel there next and learnd today some systemd stuff I was coping from yaoken for the find5 so much win today thanks for poking me about arch | 19:39 |
| Nokius | klopsi-u3: db streik :P have strike in my City for local bus/tram service no working ATMs and tomorrow now long distance train service | 19:41 |
| Nokius | MSameer: shall I change the commits ? | 19:42 |
| klopsi-u3 | oh i am sorry | 19:42 |
| GodGinrai | Nokius: you're an archer? | 19:42 |
| Nokius | klopsi-u3: had infest my money in new shoes than in a month ticket haha | 19:42 |
| Nokius | GodGinrai: not yeat on the way to settle there | 19:43 |
| GodGinrai | nice | 19:43 |
| Nokius | GodGinrai: tried it few times for fun but since last weekend my work pc is arch | 19:44 |
| GodGinrai | nice | 19:44 |
| GodGinrai | I use Arch on my work laptop | 19:44 |
| Nokius | netctl and wpa2-enterprice looks still fish for me but we will see | 19:45 |
| GodGinrai | oh yea, I would suggest avoiding netctl | 19:47 |
| GodGinrai | systemd-networkd would likely be a better option | 19:48 |
| GodGinrai | Or, depending on your use-case, connman or networkmanager | 19:48 |
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| MSameer | Nokius: as you wish. if you want it merged then yes otherwise no | 19:57 |
| Nokius | :D | 19:58 |
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| Nokius | MSameer: done | 20:02 |
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| alin | Nokius: what do you mean fishy? | 20:06 |
| alin | Nokius: is insecure like hell but shall work | 20:06 |
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| Nokius | alin: insecure :o fishy == I don't understand it full need to dive deeper into it :D | 20:09 |
| alin | Nokius: so you were not around 10y ago | 20:10 |
| alin | Nokius: there is an entry on together jolla... | 20:10 |
| Nokius | alin: do you know how I set the screen size doring the img build I like to publish a first alpha soon | 20:11 |
| alin | Nokius: nope | 20:11 |
| Nokius | alin: don't tell me my phone use features I just learned on a pc today :D | 20:12 |
| Nokius | alin: I was beliving you taked about last week :( | 20:12 |
| Nokius | I relay like this https://sailfishos.org/developmentroadmap/ wondering if it's new | 20:13 |
| alin | probably | 20:18 |
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| MSameer | Nokius: merged. next time please make 1 PR per issue | 20:24 |
| * Nokius planing to show the find5 SailfishOS port at the o-fan meetup in Frankfurt looks like the there is interested | 20:25 | |
| Nokius | MSameer: okay, sorry | 20:25 |
| klopsi-u3 | what is an o-fan meetup? | 20:26 |
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| Nokius | klopsi-u3: http://bit.ly/1bXfTSq | 20:29 |
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| klopsi-u3 | oppo has a lot of phones i see, are they finnish? | 20:33 |
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| Nokius | klopsi-u3: no PRC | 20:40 |
| dr_gogeta86 | how weird are lgs | 20:41 |
| dr_gogeta86 | for the god sake | 20:41 |
| Nokius | klopsi-u3: Mainland China | 20:41 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i thought sammy variant are the worst ... lg can be worse than that | 20:42 |
| Nokius | dr_gogeta86: never touched a LG | 20:43 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i got 2 | 20:44 |
| dr_gogeta86 | lg g3 i know the variant | 20:44 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but not the right kernel config | 20:44 |
| Nokius | dr_gogeta86: so LG has one "device" and x versions like Sammy? | 20:46 |
| dr_gogeta86 | more then sammy | 20:46 |
| dr_gogeta86 | lg g3 i've counted 23 variants | 20:46 |
| dr_gogeta86 | all with locked bootloader | 20:47 |
| Nokius | o.0 | 20:47 |
| dr_gogeta86 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/orig-development/kernel-rin-kernel-1-0-t2847581 | 20:52 |
| dr_gogeta86 | don't cry for me g3 | 20:52 |
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| Nokius | gn8 | 21:00 |
| Nokius | \o | 21:00 |
| dr_gogeta86 | we will DIT on it | 21:00 |
| dr_gogeta86 | if some one can help me | 21:01 |
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| vgrade_ | Tassadar: CM9 was the recommended stamdard on N5. I'm using CM11 on oneplus, I'm not sure if others have tried CM11 on N5 | 21:05 |
| Tassadar | you probably don't mean cm9) | 21:05 |
| Tassadar | you mean cm11 M9, which is what I used | 21:05 |
| vgrade_ | yes | 21:05 |
| vgrade_ | so with m9 you saw reboots? | 21:06 |
| Tassadar | yeah, it sometimes failed to boot | 21:06 |
| Tassadar | it's fine now, for some reason | 21:06 |
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| vgrade_ | Tassadar: alin and sledges have been working N5 recently so they may be able to comment if on this | 21:08 |
| vgrade_ | Tassadar: there is probably lots more working since you last tried it | 21:09 |
| Tassadar | yeah, there is) | 21:09 |
| vgrade_ | camera was the big one I think. I've been using N5 as my daily driver for a couple of weeks now | 21:09 |
| dr_gogeta86 | hi vgrade_ | 21:12 |
| vgrade_ | dr_gogeta86: <o | 21:12 |
| vgrade_ | dr_gogeta86: hi | 21:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I have a big catch in the viewfinder | 21:13 |
| dr_gogeta86 | LG g3 d855 | 21:13 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i'm still trying to compile a working kernel | 21:13 |
| dr_gogeta86 | such a crap | 21:13 |
| vgrade_ | dr_gogeta86: great | 21:13 |
| dr_gogeta86 | 24 variants there was something worse then sammy | 21:14 |
| dr_gogeta86 | LG | 21:14 |
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