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| mgrover | anybody interested in the nexus 5x? | 09:28 |
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| nh1402 | I'm interested-ish | 11:19 |
| nh1402 | in that I know about the specs and such | 11:19 |
| nh1402 | its set to have a 5.2" FHD display which I think you'll find is the LG G2 display (was quite an efficient display), but the 300mah smaller battery means it won't quite get the same level of battery life. Although with the Snapdragon 808 it might get close | 11:21 |
| nh1402 | mgrover: ^ | 11:22 |
| mgrover | n1402: well with two processors it could be useful, but i assume the switching is handled by the OS? | 11:23 |
| mgrover | n1402: unsure how the pieces would fit with hybris | 11:23 |
| nh1402 | what do you mean by two processors | 11:23 |
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| nh1402 | Snapdragon 808 is a hex core SoC, 4 low power cores and 2 high power cores, handled by the kernel. | 11:25 |
| mgrover | nh1402: ohhh I thought it was like samsungs big little architecture where they had 2 seperate processors | 11:26 |
| nh1402 | the only thing differentiating the 808 to the 810 is that it only has two of the high power cores instead of 4, and the GPU isn't as good, and it only supports lpddr3 | 11:26 |
| nh1402 | mgrover: Even Samsung's Exynos SoC's has the same system, all of them do, Exynos, Qualcomm, Mediatek, Kirin etc. | 11:27 |
| mgrover | nh1402: ahh, I thought they were two processors stuck on together, will the 4 low power cores be able to deal with the general stuff ? What does high power even mean lol | 11:27 |
| nh1402 | for handling intensive tasks | 11:28 |
| nh1402 | mgrover: will be interesting to know what the kernel version will be, it'll probably be the same as the Nexus 6 but could be newer | 11:30 |
| mgrover | nh1402: well hopefully its nice and easy to port sailfish to | 11:31 |
| nh1402 | well it will be Android M which isn't currently supported | 11:36 |
| nh1402 | some work will have to be done | 11:36 |
| mgrover | nh1402: well it needs a cm12 port first then we'll see? | 11:39 |
| nh1402 | it will be CM13 | 11:39 |
| mgrover | well heres to it working hopefully lol | 11:40 |
| nh1402 | or whatever they end up calling it. | 11:40 |
| mgrover | am going through setting up the hadk atm | 11:40 |
| nh1402 | every nexus phone comes with a new version of android | 11:41 |
| nh1402 | nexus 5 came with Android 4.4, nexus 6 came with Android 5 and Nexus 5x and 6p will come with Android 6 | 11:41 |
| mgrover | it does, but cm may decide to stick with 12 | 11:41 |
| mgrover | or atleast i hope they do | 11:41 |
| nh1402 | that's not how it works | 11:41 |
| mgrover | but then again itll be reworking libhybris both ways | 11:41 |
| mgrover | but I remember someone attempted to use cm12 as the base, but can't remember how far along they were | 11:42 |
| nh1402 | you're going to have to ask sledges about it, might be able to use AOSP 6.0 and try and get it working through that, but you'lll probably have to do some hybris changes. | 11:43 |
| mgrover | nh1402 am still torn whether a new phone is worth while but if its really only £250 for 16gb its worth it | 11:46 |
| nh1402 | i would say no | 11:46 |
| nh1402 | I would suggest getting a phone next year when they all start coming with lpddr4, force touch, and a non-overheating SoC | 11:47 |
| mgrover | nh1402 will they really have non-overheating SoC, thats always a maybe, and lpddr4 is nice, but to me its fast enough now. it runs fast enough to run sailfish, and currently am about to punch this mac due to force touch | 11:49 |
| nh1402 | its not the speed that I'm interested in it's that its going to be a lower voltage | 11:49 |
| nh1402 | and they'll also start coming with UFS 2.0 which is faster and more power efficient flash storage. | 11:50 |
| mgrover | nh1402: hmmmm get that one too? :P my nexus 5 is on its last legs, am thinking either another nexus 5, or the 5x | 11:51 |
| nh1402 | UFS 2.0 coupled with lpddr4, and a lower nm process for the SoC and custom ARM cores by Qualcomm rather than the standard ones they rushed to market this year. Should mean some good power efficiency improvements | 11:52 |
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| nh1402 | mgrover: I think the fact that it's a mac is the reason you want to punch it :p | 11:54 |
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| mgrover | nh1402: it is, employers supply us with this crap | 11:54 |
| mgrover | and i cant even stick linux on it | 11:54 |
| nh1402 | don't they even let you install virtualbox | 11:55 |
| frozengeek | hey all, i've been running sailfish on my iyokan for couple of weeks, and i see that there is a new alpha available at http://images.devaamo.fi/sfe/iyokan/alpha2/ But do i need to reinstall it to update or is just "zypper up" sufficient? | 11:59 |
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| mal- | spiiroin: do you have any hints how to proceed adding support for custom keyboard backlight paths? | 12:12 |
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| mgrover | they do let you use virtualbox | 12:59 |
| mgrover | but it stucks so hard | 12:59 |
| spiiroin | mal-: I'll check. But chances are that even if there is, the code does not work - It has not been verified for ages. But if you have hw we can use for testing -> excellent chance to fix it | 13:02 |
| mal- | spiiroin: I already did a modification, building now, let's see if it will work | 13:03 |
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| spiiroin | mal-: looks like it is just hard coded nokia hw support | 13:08 |
| spiiroin | ... it is also possible that the filtering rules are tuned for mA instead of some logical brightness levels | 13:09 |
| spiiroin | what kind of interface you have for the keyboards backlight? | 13:10 |
| mal- | spiiroin: btw, you forgot to tag the new release of mce | 13:10 |
| spiiroin | hmm... | 13:10 |
| mal- | spiiroin: just a simple interface, /sys/class/leds/keyboard-backlight with a brightness file | 13:11 |
| spiiroin | mal-: thanks for the heads up - I made a local tag but forgot to push it | 13:12 |
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| mal- | spiiroin: noticed when trying to build on obs | 13:13 |
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| mal- | spiiroin: first attempt not successful | 13:24 |
| mal- | spiiroin: I was wrong, it does work nicely, forgot to add the config file :) | 13:28 |
| mal- | spiiroin: quite simple solution https://github.com/mlehtima/mce/commit/5cadf139ec334bdd6ed5892df6d93bb5052191af | 13:29 |
| mal- | that could be simplified even more | 13:30 |
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| spiiroin | mal-: is there a max_brightness file too? | 13:35 |
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| mal- | spiiroin: yes | 13:37 |
| spiiroin | mal-: that probably should be taken in to account too | 13:37 |
| mal- | spiiroin: I was thinking about that | 13:38 |
| spiiroin | and verify that the filtering in filter-brightness-als do sane input -> output mapping | 13:38 |
| mal- | spiiroin: at least the backlight reacted to als correctly | 13:41 |
| spiiroin | mal-: great, I only remember that it was left in "I need to take closer look at this" -state when I was rewriting the display brightness stuff | 13:42 |
| mal- | spiiroin: should I verify that both brightness and max_brightness are present or do I trust the user | 13:45 |
| spiiroin | mal-: better check. at minimum mce must not crash even if the file names turn out to be bogus | 13:47 |
| spiiroin | mal-: ... and that horrible string concatenation style that is used in the legacy code does not need to be followed ;-) | 13:49 |
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| mal- | spiiroin: ok | 14:05 |
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| vakkov | omg http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2014-10-17.log.html#t2014-10-17T11:07:53 -_- | 14:24 |
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| locusf | heh | 14:49 |
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| mal- | spiiroin: a new version https://github.com/mlehtima/mce/commit/e3eb6dc360de86efb9fb9ba81f3a618bca651a8e | 15:49 |
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| vakkov | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc-LEG0T_4c | 16:13 |
| vakkov | needs sailfish | 16:13 |
| spiiroin | mal-: basically looks ok; what I would change is to: Put new the stuff that is now in g_module_check_init() into a separate function "probe_simple_backlight_brightness" or something. And perhaps call that from the default case in setup_key_backlight() instead of module init. | 16:18 |
| nh1402 | vakkov: hate all the marketing BS | 16:19 |
| spiiroin | mal-: plus, we'll need to have a mer bug to fix with the commit | 16:19 |
| vakkov | omg | 16:19 |
| vakkov | those fingerprint sensors | 16:19 |
| vakkov | "it gets better over time" | 16:19 |
| nh1402 | so it starts off rubbish? | 16:19 |
| vakkov | meaning it creates a better model of your fingerprints :D and those fuckers have access to them | 16:19 |
| nh1402 | i prefer Sony's placement of the fingerprint sensor | 16:20 |
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| mal- | spiiroin: ok, I'll make those changes and create a bug | 16:26 |
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