Monday, 2015-10-05

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BomberHello, porters! I have a question, if I may.02:56
BomberI've googled around to see if anyone has begun development on the Nexus 6, and I haven't turned up any results. Does anyone know what the status is, if any?02:59
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locusfBomber: no status since no-one has it04:28
BomberThanks locusf!04:30
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locusfwouldlove to have one though04:35
locusfbut since n6p is coming already :p04:35
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piggzmal-: meh .... i switch android_build to the version from the ace repo and applied the patch to build just the mer bits ..... to make sure i have all the same flags as the android part ........... it made squat difference :(((((06:40
piggzwith the init/property system, i found that it only segaults wen adding certain system properties06:40
piggzso i commented them out of default.prop, and the init gets further, but still exits06:41
piggzwith exit(1)06:41
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piggzis it normal to get lots of 'binder' errors in kernel?06:45
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piggzmal-: hmmm06:51
piggz[35125.748962] binder: 1718:1718 transaction failed 29189, size 0-006:52
piggzprocess 1718 is jolla-startup-wizard06:52
piggzsledges: ^06:52
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dr_gogeta86good monrning guys07:15
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simonvanderveldtpiggz: If it segfaults when certain system properties are present grep the /*.rc files for those properties, there are usually a fair amount of on:property triggers in it that act on certain properties07:23
piggzsimonvanderveldt: it segfaults on the __system_propert_add call .... the ones that crash it are the commented out ones
simonvanderveldtpiggz: thats kinda strange, does setting those properties manually work?07:26
piggzsimonvanderveldt: im not sure how to do that07:30
simonvanderveldtpiggz: You can use setprop for that07:31
piggzsh-3.2# setprop persist.sys.usb.config mtp07:31
piggzcould not set property07:31
simonvanderveldtpiggz: works from Android for me, not booted into sailfish so can't try there at the moment but I used it before07:34
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piggzi wonder ... doing a 'mka hybris-hal' builds hybris-boot.img and boot.img ..... should the boot.img load android?07:40
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simonvanderveldtpiggz: You mean if it could load Android?07:52
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piggzsimonvanderveldt: yes08:05
sledgespiggz: rsalvetti patches address some properties problems:
sledgespiggz: also ensure property service is running08:15
sledgesgood weekend every1? :)08:15
simonvanderveldtsledges: Yeah, quiet relaxing :) Yours?08:24
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sledgessimonvanderveldt: thanks, karate seminar made it pleasantly exhausting :)08:36
simonvanderveldtsledges: Nice! Doing stuff like that it is a good way of getting out of our thinking mode/head which we're in week :)08:39
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sledgesworks very well two evenings per work-week too;)08:45
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piggzmal-: sledges: what is needed for mer in bionic? considering using the bionic from ace repo, just with needed patches10:28
sledgespiggz: all those i just linked10:29
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Konstamoar success, RIL works (kind of) :D10:40
Konstaapparently it's always worked, I just had a bad prepaid SIM10:40
Konstasledges: can we have jolla store enabled for kis3? user has confirmed that we can get unique ids10:42
sledgesKonsta: cool! are they  IMEIs?10:43
Konstasledges: yeah, IMEI10:44
KonstaIMEI is also shown in 'about product' without sim card10:44
dr_gogeta86hi guys10:44
sledgesKonsta: device codename kis3?10:44
dr_gogeta86sledges, a gift for your10:44
sledgesor some more variants?10:44
dr_gogeta86minute 0:3510:44
Konstaslegdes: yes, kis310:44
Konstaif I stick my prepaid SIM then ofono segfaults and IMEI is not shown anywhere, tested with another SIM and it works fine10:45
Konstahad problems with prepaid sims from the same carrier with some b2g build in the past, too10:46
drFaustrollsledges: hi10:46
drFaustrollsledges: any complaints?10:46
Konstasledges: kis3 is the only codename, I still need to do some install time magic between variants because of the extra sensors some devices have10:48
dr_gogeta86Konsta, how many variants ?10:48
Konstadr_gogeta86: depends on how you like to count them?10:49
Konstamarketing names or actual differences in hardware10:49
Konstathere's slight differences with sensors, battery capacity, touchscreen, dual-sim variant and so on10:50
KonstaI'm only maintaining a single CM build so it hasn't been a major problem10:51
Konstayeah forgot, and partition layouts can be different, too10:51
dr_gogeta86I've got two device with 0Love10:52
Konstaproblem with sailfish was that ambient light sensor bumps down input event nodes so those are different between devices that have als/prox and ones that don't10:53
dr_gogeta86Huawei g525/c8813q ( two variants ) in theory different touchscreen10:53
KonstaI can sed it during install time so it's not a problem ;)10:53
dr_gogeta86so you got the problem of the als that cause touchscreen problems ?10:53
sledgesdr_gogeta86: smooth review!10:54
dr_gogeta86for non finns release name sometimes are a pain10:54
sledgesjust go 1.1.9 :P10:55
dr_gogeta86point 2810:55
sledgesthat varies10:55
sledgesonly fixes10:55
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Konstahmm, mobile data works, receiving sms works - sending sms doesn't11:20
Konstacan't make outgoing calls, receiving calls don't work either11:20
Konstathere's a normal dial tone (not busy, or not available) on the other device I'm trying to call to my sailfish os device11:21
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sledgesKonsta: yep, exactly that seems to have happened many times during modem bringup, on past ports11:28
sledgesKonsta: and e.g. i9105 never got fixed, but mostly because no-one looked at it closely:)11:28
sledgesKonsta: using latest ofono master btw?11:28
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sledgesKonsta: is it dual sim btw?11:29
Konstasledges: hmm, not sure which ofono it is, it's pulled from some repo11:30
Konstashould I try building it myself?11:30
mal-Konsta: which sf version? if 1.1.9 have you added the one new package needed11:30
Konstasledges: it's single sim11:30
sledgesmal-: missing packages gives "Problem with network" and no call signals in/out11:31
mal-sledges: yes, I know11:31
Konstamal-: yeah, 1.1.9. I've added pattern:jolla-sailfish-cellular-apps and telepathy-ring to patterns11:31
Konstamal-: something else?11:31
mal-Konsta: no, those were all11:31
sledgesKonsta: try this: (it'll be merged to master, if you can wait)11:33
Konstasledges: thanks, I'll try messing around with ofono later11:36
Konstausb and wifi tethering btw also work :)11:36
Konstathis is coming along nicely now. just some ril issues and some media issues and my boot time race condition thing still bothering...11:37
Konstasledges: mal-: btw is there way to ensure droid-hal-init is started after udev-settle and system/firmware/persist mounts have _finished_?11:39
sledgesKonsta: "After=" inside .service11:43
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Konstasledges: what's the difference with 'Before='? I though these are when things are _started_ not when they're actually finished11:46
Konsta't know much about systemd though11:46
sledgesif A contains Before=B, it *should* be the same as B containing After=A11:46
Konstaeach mount takes about 5sec now, udev-settle takes little more than that11:47
KonstaI think droid-hal-init starts before these are finished sometimes and this causes a reboot11:47
Konstathat's my theory at least :P11:47
Nokius_workKonsta: sounds like te issue I have on the find5 (modem)11:48
KonstaNokius_work: that's very likely, have you found any way to resolve it?11:50
Nokius_workKonsta: no I tried ofono in debug mode too11:54
sledgesNokius_work: try that branch ^^11:54
Nokius_worksledges: I will11:55
* Nokius_work checking online price for extra minutes for the next days 11:55
nh1402sledges: is that some transitive closure type thing11:55
* Nokius_work have to order a new Router as well may there are some discounts for this set :D11:57
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sledgesnh1402: ?11:58
Laxtlo_Ouhjeah !!11:58
sledgesLaxtlo_ is happy to see us!:)11:59
mal-vakkov: ping11:59
Laxtlo_sledges : yeah !! didnt know that you exist ;)12:00
vakkovmal-: pong12:01
nh1402sledges: "if A contains Before=B, it *should* be the same as B containing After=A"12:01
Laxtlo_well i do have oneplusone and i do love sailfishos12:01
sledgesLaxtlo_: yep, points to and only under Develop menu you find porting12:01
sledgesnh1402: more fuzzy logic, it's systemd ;) making things hairy like "RemainAfterExit" etc:D12:02
sledgesLaxtlo_: welcome aboard then:)12:02
sledgescame to the right place12:02
Laxtlo_sledges : okey cool.12:02
sledgesLaxtlo_: fancy picking up the porting from the point it's been left at?12:03
Laxtlo_sledges : i been watching oneplusone forum and i have waiting for sailfish release where dialer works12:07
sledgesLaxtlo_: not many techy people have that phone, so that's why porters come and go12:07
sledgesLaxtlo_: it currently has no active porters:
Laxtlo_sledges : and i am not developer i am just tech guy who likes to test things12:09
sledgesLaxtlo_: understood12:09
sledgesLaxtlo_: would be interesting to try latest ofono multisim branch on oneplus one though12:09
sledgesbut i haven't a device12:09
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Laxtlo_sledge : never heard ofono12:11
Nokius_worksledges: :( I have a find7 and I assume since I saw mal- catch with the SE phones one port should work on both **my guess**12:12
sledgesLaxtlo_: if you ever plus a USB modem into your Linux desktop, you'll hear about ofono ;)12:13
sledgesNokius_work: xperia 2011 devices have unified kernel and similar in other aspects too12:14
sledgesNokius_work: find7 is newer than find5, so it would be the same as trying to use xperia 2011 port on some 2013 device i'd think12:14
Nokius_workfind7 and oneplus not find5 and find712:16
Nokius_worksledges, find7 and bacon have the same kernel check logs ;)12:16
sledgeshow can i check logs for that? :D12:17
Laxtlo_sledges : now i know what is ofono..and i guess somebody did talk about it oneplus forum12:17
Nokius_worksledges: channel logs :)12:18
sledgesNokius_work: ok, i'll read them now, see you back in few days :D12:19
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Nokius_worksledges: :D or u can trust me12:20
sledgesNokius_work: same kernel means one step less, if it's same SoC you'll encounter similar troubles as with bacon (and benefit from already existing fixes), but it won't be just a "name change" as in mal-'s case, because device repos differ (and even in mal-'s case more and more differences came out eventually)12:24
Nokius_worksledges: so wrong guess :(12:25
mal-Nokius_work: I have had some troubles with for example camera configs, some devices have different resolutions, also different touchscreen devices etc12:26
mal-but I still think in my case shared configs have more benefits than problems12:27
Nokius_workfind7 has a better screen e.g I know I should not guess I should prove :)12:27
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mgroverhello, do we need to add the adaption repo ourselves from now on? seems missing from the beta013:27
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sledgesmgrover: it's disabled, to prevent annoyances; dhd is used instead13:29
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mgroversledges: ah okay, so the same updates are coming through13:30
mgrovertworaz: the version of quicksilver in the github repo, is that the latest version?13:31
tworazmgrover: nope13:31
tworazmgrover: I haven't published the sources for new version13:32
mgrovertworaz: ah okay, well its performance dominates both the normal browser and qtwebkit based browsers13:32
tworazmgrover: Expected13:32
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mgrovertworaz: are you planning on improving the UI? or it just as a proof of concept?13:33
tworazmgrover: I never planned to do any work on the UI13:33
tworazmgrover: The UI is basically something I hacked together in order to test the engine13:34
mgrovertworaz: will you publish the source soon? i think that engine with something like webpirate would be pretty awesome13:34
tworazmgrover: The goal is to provide a component that fully fledged browser could be built on top of13:35
mgrovertworaz: ahh awesome :)13:35
tworazmgrover: There are basically two projects13:35
tworazmgrover: One is ozone_qt another QuickSilver13:35
tworazmgrover: The first one as the name suggests implements chromium ozone layer in Qt13:35
tworazmgrover: It allows you to run upstream content/aura based apps with Qt as the windowing system backend13:36
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tworazmgrover: QuickSilver is a thin layer on top of content API that allows one to use it from QML based apps13:37
mgrovertworaz: well for a thin layer its already replaced the other browsers for video playing13:37
tworazmgrover: content API is basically public API chromium exposes13:37
tworazmgrover: Well video playback is a bit of a problem right now13:38
tworazmgrover: It uses standard chromium ffmpeg backend13:38
tworazmgrover: Which works fine, but does all the decoding in sw13:38
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tworazmgrover: (and still end up using almost the same amount of CPU power as gecko ;) )13:38
tworazmgrover: But it's a bit of a problem battery usage wise13:39
mgrovertworaz: ahh, am on the nexus 5 at the moment so maybe it doesn't seem as much of an issue for a quad core compared to jollas dual core13:39
tworazmgrover: There is a potential solution
tworazmgrover: The problem is it needs gstreamer 1.613:39
tworazmgrover: And jolla only recently moved to 1.413:40
mgrovertworaz: i think the nexus 5 has only recently moved to 1.0 as well13:40
tworazmgrover: 1.6 was released like a weak ago, maybe two13:40
tworazmgrover: So it's not strange13:40
tworazmgrover: Stll those samsung guys need some gst features from 1.613:41
tworazmgrover: They did it 'right' IMO13:41
tworazmgrover: all the media handling was offloaded into a separate process13:42
tworazmgrover: All the previous attempts at using gst in chromium ended up doing all the work in UI process13:42
tworazmgrover: Which broke security features like sandboxing for example13:42
mgrovertworaz: couldnt it end up lagging and freezing uis?13:44
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tworazmgrover: It could, it could also crash the UI13:49
tworazmgrover: But the biggest problem is previous solution could never be accepted upstream13:50
mgrovertworaz: how come?13:50
tworazmgrover: In order to work they'd either have to disable UI sandbox or they wouldn't work at all13:51
tworazmgrover: breaking one of the best security feature chromium has just to support gst is just not worth it13:53
tworazmgrover: Especially that it does not bring anything new to the table13:53
tworazmgrover: HW acceleration on desktop platforms can be achieved via libva already13:53
mgrovertworaz: just nothing for mobile platforms i assume13:54
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tworazmgrover: mobile == android13:54
tworazmgrover: Android has separate media backend which is also HW accelerated13:54
tworazmgrover: the only platforms which have problems without gst are tizen, mer and probably ubuntu phone13:55
tworazmgrover: You can't blame google they are not really interested in those13:55
tworazmgrover: There is a reason why the gst backend was funded by Samsung ;)13:56
tworazmgrover: I believe this is their 3rd attempt13:56
mgrovertworaz: well thats no surprise, thats google for ya, shame really, but doesn't the QtWebEngine have HW?13:56
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tworazmgrover: QtWebEngine also uses ffmpeg from what I know13:57
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tworazmgrover: Although I admit I haven't checked their sources since May13:57
tworazmrgover: And you can't really blame google for anything in this case13:58
tworazmgrover: They support many platforms already and they generally accept a lot of external patches13:59
tworazmgrover: IMO Google is much more open with chromium than Apple ever was with WebKit13:59
mgrovertworaz: ahh, I thought google just abandoned chromium at around the time google chrome came to life, but seems I was mistaken14:00
tworazmgrover: For example each major feature they plan to implement has an open design document in google docs14:00
tworazmgrover: Anybody can comment, ask questions etc14:00
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tworazmgrover: chrome == chromium + flash plugin + pdf plugin14:00
mgrovertworaz: surprisingly open for google14:01
tworazmgrover: Oh and maybe integration with google services14:01
mgrovertworaz: i remember the issue people were having years ago with HWA flash for mobiles14:01
tworazmgrover: Well flash is as closed as it ever was, some people blame google for shipping flash plugin in chrome14:01
tworazmgrover: But at least they keep it up to date and secure14:02
tworazmgrover: Chromium is generally a pretty nice engine to work on14:02
tworazmgrover: The only part I don't like is the UI, but this is a separate issue14:02
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mgrovertworaz: fair enough, hopefully all goes well with it, in terms of performance for a nexus 5 though its pretty solid14:12
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Konstasledges: I get this error trying to build ofono
Konstado I need to add some repository to my sdk?17:24
simonvanderveldtKonsta: I built ofono (master) yesterday without issues17:24
simonvanderveldtKonsta: Have you tried installing mce-headers as it says in the pastebin?17:25
Konstasimonvanderveldt: it's not master, it's this
Konstasimonvanderveldt: how to install mce-headers? :P17:26
simonvanderveldtKonsta: Ah, allright. Haven't tried that branch17:27
simonvanderveldtKonsta: in SDK zypper in mce-headers17:27
Konstasimonvanderveldt: No provider of 'mce-headers' found.17:28
simonvanderveldtKonsta: mce-headers comes from this repo, try building that and installing the rpm
Konstasimonvanderveldt: hmm, built it, added it my local repo, building ofono still complains about it missing :o17:34
simonvanderveldtKonsta: Hmm, does installing manually work? (`zypper in`)17:34
Konstasimonvanderveldt: still getting No provider of 'mce-headers' found.17:35
KonstaI'll try to build ofono master just in case I'm doing wrong :P17:37
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Konstaofono master build ok, just took time track down where it was (nemomobile-packages). already cloned and removed it once ;)17:46
Konsta*time to17:47
simonvanderveldtKonsta: Well that's a good thing :) Not sure why the other one isn't working then. If it needs a new dependency you should be able to install it17:48
Konstasimonvanderveldt: yeah, there seems to be new requires, not sure how to get them
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simonvanderveldtKonsta: You could try to make the mce-header row the same as the other ones (ie add pkgconfig)? Maybe it'll compile the package?17:53
Konstasimonvanderveldt: well, it complains about pkgconfig(libglibutil) and pkgconfig(libgrilio) missing too so I doubt that's going to help :/17:55
simonvanderveldtKonsta: ohw, bummer :(17:55
simonvanderveldtKonsta: You build in sb2?17:57
Konstasimonvanderveldt: ??? mb2 -s rpm/ofono.spec -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl build17:58
simonvanderveldtKonsta: Do you know what all that means?18:00
simonvanderveldtKonsta: afaik mb2 is a wrapper scripts around sb2 (scratchbox2). This means the actual building of the packages is done inside the scratchbox2 target/system18:02
simonvanderveldtKonsta: Anyway, I do see mce-headers. Try 'sb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-$ARCH -R -msdk-install zypper se mce'18:03
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Konstasimonvanderveldt: well, I'm not too familiar with this build system but that's how I've built other middleware packages (and the ofono master)18:05
Konstasimonvanderveldt: No configuration file exists or could be parsed.18:05
Konstasimonvanderveldt: *** Augeas exception. No config read, sticking with defaults.18:05
simonvanderveldtKonsta: Not sure what that means, the above command should work if your inside the SDK chroot18:07
Konstamarshmallow update roll-out started on nexus devices and factory images out18:11
Konstaaosp source is going to drop any moment now, I'll probably get pretty busy with CM13 next :P18:11
Konstasimonvanderveldt: yeah, I'm inside sdk, beats me, no idea18:12
simonvanderveldtKonsta: Did you use the script in $ANDROID_ROOT/rpm/dhd/helpers?18:14
Konstasimonvanderveldt: not this time, built it manually18:15
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Konstasimonvanderveldt: have added geoclue-provider-hybris-community and gst-droid there, though18:16
simonvanderveldtKonsta: Just wondering if running that gave errors, because it executes the same sb2 commands18:16
simonvanderveldtsledges: Are you there? I'm trying to get rild to work (it's running, but for some reason it's not picking up my simcard, only the modem itself) and if strace /system/bin/rild it segfaults :(18:18
simonvanderveldt*and if I strace18:18
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sledgessimonvanderveldt: does it segfault without strace? because probably it needs extra env when launched via /system/bin/start ril-daemon?21:07
simonvanderveldtsledges: it's working fine without a trace21:09
simonvanderveldtsledges: it just seems like anything I run through strace segfaults21:10
sledgeseven ofono?21:10
sledgeshmm, shouldn't be like that21:11
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simonvanderveldtsledges: I'll give ofono a try tomorrow21:21
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