Monday, 2015-12-28

drFaustrollghosalmartin: ok so that mistake was good for something after all00:00
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: indeed now its time to make android 6 to boot00:00
drFaustrollghosalmartin: your built you mean00:01
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: yes00:01
drFaustrollghosalmartin: that may be tricky00:01
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: thats true, but I now have logcat00:02
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ghosalmartinwell according to dmesg : [   38.381251] init: cannot execve('/vendor/bin/qseecomd'): No such file or directory00:05
ghosalmartinbut it exists, so the only thing am thinking is its 64bit00:05
drFaustrollghosalmartin: do a file on it00:06
ghosalmartinandroid doesnt have file :P00:06
drFaustrollghosalmartin: bastards00:06
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: I know right00:06
drFaustrollghosalmartin: copy it on your computer and do it from there00:07
ghosalmartinoh yeahhh :P00:08
drFaustrollghosalmartin: actually you already have it on your computer00:08
ghosalmartinits vendor partitoin00:09
ghosalmartinhow could i extract .img00:09
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drFaustrollghosalmartin: why shall you extract it? you have it aleady before you packaged it00:10
ghosalmartinits in the /vendor partition00:10
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ghosalmartini dont have those files00:10
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: yeah its 64bit00:11
drFaustrollghosalmartin: ok now back to square one...00:12
ghosalmartin*sigh* they just hate me00:12
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: its for some encryption bullshit thats disabled as well00:13
ghosalmartinill try and find it in init.rc and disable it00:13
ghosalmartinhow do they not have nano or vi...00:15
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drFaustrollghosalmartin: yap... init.rc00:18
drFaustrollghosalmartin: I think this one you can pull and push back00:18
merbotLaunchpad bug 1223586 in libhybris (Ubuntu) "security team audit of libhybris" [Critical,Confirmed]00:18
ghosalmartini cant seem to push, read only file system00:18
drFaustrollghosalmartin: there is adb shell00:18
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: am in it time, ama try and remount now00:19
ghosalmartinwritten, rebooting now00:21
ghosalmartini disabled everything in vendor00:21
ghosalmartinseems like itll all be 64bit00:21
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ghosalmartindrFaustroll: its very cheeky, when I write a new file, it just replaces it again00:25
drFaustrollghosalmartin: tricky00:27
drFaustrollthis may be of interest..
drFaustrollghosalmartin: probbaly you have seen it already00:27
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: I havent but I've never had any issues compiling libhybris00:28
drFaustrollghosalmartin: 64 bit?00:30
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: i dont compile 64bit, only 32bit00:30
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: even if I did, it'd be pointless since sfos is 32bit00:30
drFaustrollghosalmartin: i was wondering if thatt will make life easier00:30
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: if I had 64bit sfos then yes :P00:31
ghosalmartinwell actually no theres a compile error in bionic for 64bit libdsyscalls00:31
drFaustrollghosalmartin: i see... 64 bit for all can bre tricky00:31
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: i have some life00:32
ghosalmartini just stopped the offending thing00:32
drFaustrollghosalmartin: cool booted?00:32
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: still nothing great, and cold boot? yes00:33
drFaustrollghosalmartin: ok then complains about somethign else?00:33
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: yes00:34
ghosalmartinsurfaceflinger exited00:34
ghosalmartinbut I think thats because it was stuck on that service00:34
drFaustrollghosalmartin: this is still in android?00:35
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: yes00:35
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ghosalmartinactually at this point it must be starting the service somewhere else00:36
drFaustrollghosalmartin: no clue in log?00:42
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: nah00:42
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drFaustrollghosalmartin: ok I think I will shut down... goodnight!00:47
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: goodnight00:47
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ghosalmartindrFaustroll: I just went to the nexus 5 image, extracted the binaries I needed and dumped them into the 5x, and they seem to work with no issues, still no boot though01:10
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sledgeswhat's everyone up to then?:))10:42
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locusffix rpi2 nemo adaptation :p10:42
locusfall other stuff dropped until then10:42
sledgesfosdem is coming;)10:42
mal-I think I'll try to hack the fm radio on fp2 again this evening10:43
sledgescool! try to google that qcom error10:44
mal-need to reproduce the initialization done by qcom binary fmconfig10:45
mal-I might have it figured out but needs some more code10:45
sledgesi see10:45
mal-it's a quite strange way it is done10:45
sledgestell me about qcom:))10:45
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mal-first we read version id from the device then write that some other stuff to android properties and then run an android service10:48
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drFaustrollghosalmartin: any progress in the productive hours?11:16
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: well I stole the binaries from the nexus 5, and that errors now gone, but still no boot11:16
drFaustrollo crap11:17
drFaustrollmal-: if is to write a property why we do not write it in default.prop?11:19
ghosalmartinjust lovely print outs from healthd11:21
ghosalmartin logcat11:23
ghosalmartinno clues as to why surfaceflinger hangs11:24
drFaustrollghosalmartin: i see and error on line 9711:38
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: didnt think it was tbh, more debug from attempting to run apk11:39
ghosalmartinhmm starting to think I don't have a complete android build
drFaustrollghosalmartin: art thought they use dalvik11:46
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: I have to wonder if there arting by default for android 611:47
taaemghosalmartin: since android 5 art is the default11:53
ghosalmartintaaem: ahh yay11:53
ghosalmartinhmm my am.jar is empty11:54
drFaustrollghosalmartin: are you in leeds? or is just my bad memory?12:01
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ghosalmartindrFaustroll: I am indeed in leeds12:01
drFaustrollghosalmartin: so you got the floods12:01
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: yeah, the bottom half of the city centre is quite bad, and some parts near me12:02
drFaustrollghosalmartin: seen some pictures...12:02
ghosalmartinyeah down the road from me, kirkstall, is quite bad, very high levels of water12:03
drFaustrollghosalmartin: that is expected... that road is basically in the valley of the river12:03
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drFaustrollghosalmartin: anyhow as I say people shall make their minds... they want dams for flood defence or they want the floods12:04
drFaustrollthey cannot have both...12:05
ghosalmartinwell hopefully its the flood defence12:06
ghosalmartinI have to wonder how the android filesystem is so persistant. I cannot make any changes12:10
drFaustrollghosalmartin: flood defences spoil the natural beauty and more important take away the chance to complain12:13
drFaustrollghosalmartin: imagine some villages around leeds accepting to live int he shaddow of a flood defence12:15
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ghosalmartindrFaustroll: they wouldnt be happy,12:27
ghosalmartinon the plus side things are persistant thanks to the android ramdisk12:27
nh1402afternoon, it's been a while12:39
Guhli have got Phone-Calls (including sound in and out) working on the HTC vision - thats a new status12:43
Guhlmobile data connection is broken atm but i fixed that once so that should be easy12:44
Guhlnext thing will be keyboard layout for the hardware keyboard and then i think i'll publish a new alpha rom12:45
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Guhlmal-, as far as i see you have only the 1.x related things for the xperia pro on github12:49
mal-Guhl: this is the one I use on 2.012:50
Guhlhmm, ... don't see anything keyboard related there12:52
mal-Guhl: there is nothing, keyboard is a problem12:53
Guhlhow, why?12:53
mal-Guhl: the layouts and changing of those doesn't work properly on my device because the device is using a non-standard layout12:54
mal-I haven't figured out where the changeable layouts are defined12:55
Guhlcould you provide some info how the switch from hw to on-screen keyboard is triggered now?12:55
adeen-sI dont have touch_synaptics in my drivers folder .. how do i enable D2W ?12:55
mal-Guhl: I need that for hw keyboard detection12:56
Guhlmal-, i did a proper keyboard layout for my vision so i will test if this still works in 2.x12:56
Guhlfor me atm the on-screen keyboard never comes up12:57
mal-Guhl: sounds like you need to add that file with proper values also12:57
mal-Guhl: if on-screen keyboard is never shown it means that the switch is not detected properly12:58
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Guhlyes for sure, already had that on the 1.x when working with (forgot who is maintaining mce) on the SW_KEYPAD_SLIDE12:58
mal-Guhl: is the slide event in the same input device as the keyboard12:59
mal-sometimes it's not12:59
Guhlwhat was the command to trace the evdev events again?13:01
mal-Guhl: evdev_trace -i shows the defintions of the input devices (included in mce-tools package)13:02
mal-Guhl: that should be enough, evdev_trace -t shows all incoming events13:02
adeen-smal-: I added lines 77 and 78 in the hadk-faq. Check that.13:02
Guhlthanks - i really forgot almost everything in the last 8 month13:02
mal-adeen-s: thanks13:03
adeen-smal-: Np13:03
adeen-show do i enable double tap to wake ?13:10
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mal-adeen-s: that can be done only if the display firmware supports it, most of time it does not, there is a hack to enable it for others but that causes a battery drain13:12
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adeen-smal-: OK13:19
adeen-smal-: I got this while executing line 88 of hadk-faq ->
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mal-adeen-s: the file is faulty, try to download it again13:22
adeen-smal-: Done13:23
mal-and make sure you copy in properly so that no html tags are present, from this
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adeen-smal-: I'm through with that step. :D13:24
Guhlaha - i lost connection13:25
Guhlmal-, mapping the event fixed the on screen keyboard :-)13:25
Guhlmal-, speaking of mce did you have this?13:25
Guhlmce[1432]: modules/battery-statefs.c: tracker_open(): /run/state/namespaces/Battery/State: open: Invalid argument13:25
mal-no, battery works but there is a problem of several batteries being reported, that only causes spam in journal log but nothing else13:27
Guhlwell i'll have a look at the code of modules/battery-statefs.c then13:27
Guhlcause the file /run/state/namespaces/Battery/State exists and i can cat it13:28
mal-but the messages are different on my device so not related to your problem13:28
mal-are the permissions correct13:28
Guhlwell on the file itself (which is a link) it's 77713:29
ghosalmartinwhy does android torment me so13:29
adeen-sghosalmartin: What did it do ?13:30
ghosalmartinadeen-s: actually your the perfect person for this. so when you built android 32bit for your tablet? did it just work?13:30
ghosalmartinadeen-s: also how did you build 32bit only, or enforce that13:31
Guhlmal-, the original file /run/state/providers/udev/Battery/State belongs to root:privileged but is world readable13:33
adeen-sghosalmartin: I have arm.13:33
ghosalmartinadeen-s: are you and Adeen the same person?13:34
ghosalmartinadeen-s: am sure you mentioned have aarch64 didnt you?13:34
adeen-sand also SlimShady and KonviKT13:34
adeen-si was talking about the possibility of porting to arch64. Not that i have ported it already.13:35
Guhlmal-, last question about keyboard: do you know how on can assign different layout file to the hw and the onscreen keyboard?13:35
mal-Guhl: the settings have that13:36
ghosalmartinadeen-s: so you have no arch64 devices?13:37
adeen-sghosalmartin: I have an arch64 capable device which runs cm13. Without using the 64-bit capabilities.13:38
Guhlmal- the setting in "Active layout" below "Hardware keyboards" is for the hw-keyboard?13:38
ghosalmartinadeen-s: how did you get it to not use the 64bit capabilities13:38
mal-Guhl: yes13:41
adeen-sghosalmartin: ask him ->
mal-Guhl: and the setting at the top of the same page is for the on-screen keyboard13:41
Guhlthat's not ver obvious :-)13:42
mal-I thought it was13:42
mal-since there is the hardware keyboard text there13:43
adeen-smal-: Stuck at line 115 of hadk-faq !13:43
Guhlmal-, OK - would you also know how the default value is set (in a new image)?13:44
ghosalmartinthis magic line it seems: FORCE_32_BIT := true13:45
adeen-sghosalmartin: That is an interesting find ! Ping me if you get it to work.13:46
ghosalmartinadeen-s: will do13:46
mal-Guhl: no13:46
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Guhlmal-, thanks i'll figure that myself13:47
adeen-smal-: I have built the droidmedia tar but how do i get it to work on my device ?13:49
mal-adeen-s: have you built gst-droid also?13:52
adeen-smal-: Done everything upto line 11413:52
mal-adeen-s: you can copy the droidmedia and gst-droid packages to your device and install them13:54
mal--devel package are not needed on the device13:54
adeen-smal-: and after copying ?13:54
adeen-smal-: I got that13:55
mal-zypper in package.rpm13:55
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: i give up, am going to attempt to build cm13 32bit13:57
adeen-sghosalmartin: Maybe try with that as your base then ?13:58
ghosalmartinadeen-s: am going to do a repo sync now, just backng up my existing source because 40gigsish is no fun d/l :P13:59
adeen-smal-: Nothing provides droidmedia needed by gstreamer1.0......14:00
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mal-adeen-s: did you install droidmedia first14:01
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adeen-smal-: hmm... done now.14:03
adeen-smal-: Installed droidmedia and gstreamer. Now what ?14:04
mal-adeen-s: line 11614:05
mal-adeen-s: you can try playing mp3 or some video (for example from youtube in browser) on your device14:06
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adeen-smal-: MP3s dont work yet.14:07
mal-adeen-s: oh, sorry, you are missing some parts14:08
ghosalmartinand the repo sync is kicked off14:08
ghosalmartinthink its time for some breakfast14:09
mal-adeen-s: you need to install the newly built droid-hal-$DEVICE* packages and reboot14:09
mal-it would almost be easier to just rebuild the whole image :)14:10
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adeen-smal-: which of the newly built packages? i installed gstreamer and droidmedia. What next ?14:11
mal-adeen-s: you built droid-hal on line 11414:11
adeen-smal-: So i have to install all the new rpms in the droid-local-repo folder ? I can do that.14:18
adeen-smal-: Even the kernel, recovery and boot image rpms ?14:19
mal-adeen-s: just the ones that are installed now14:19
mal-I believe the kernel won't be flashed when you install the package14:20
adeen-smal-: so only the droid-config-p3100 and gstreamer and droidmedia rpms ?14:21
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mal-adeen-s: no need to install droid-config, just the droid-hal-$DEVICE* that are installed currently14:22
adeen-sdo i have to build HA middleware packages14:23
mal-should not be needed, hopefully14:23
mal-since nothing else has changed in those, but rebuilding the image completely would be the easy way14:24
nh1402so... what did I miss for the past 3 weeks.14:29
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adeen-smal-: Still no luck.14:31
adeen-smal-: Still no luck.14:31
mal-is minisfservice and some other similar service running?14:32
mal-adeen-s: did you reboot?14:34
mal-adeen-s: and when you build the whole image add this to you patterns
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adeen-smal-: Video thumbnails are now shown but video cannot be played.14:50
mal-adeen-s: you didn't answer if the needed services are running14:52
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adeen-smal-: NOT running15:01
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mal-adeen-s: so that is the reason, please rebuild the whole image because that at least should make everything ok15:03
mal-adeen-s: if you run then all should go well, you can add gst-droid to the list of packages to be build in that script15:05
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adeen-smal-: Maybe i can just copy those files from droidmedia folder in $ANDROID_ROOT to the /system directory ?15:30
mal-adeen-s: you never copy anything to /system15:32
mal-adeen-s: those files belong to /usr/libexec/droid-hybris/system/15:32
mal-adeen-s: and the individual files belong to different subfolders15:33
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adeen-smal-: i have those files and their subfolders. Let me give it a try15:34
mal-adeen-s: were the files there before?15:35
adeen-smal-: Yes the files are already there.15:36
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adeen-smal-: those services are working now but still no mp3 playback15:39
mal-adeen-s: install gstreamer-1.0-tools and run gst-inspect-1.0 check the output for droid15:41
mal-btw, you could have rebuilt the whole image by now :)15:42
adeen-smal-: I have the same thoughts.15:52
adeen-si have installed the tools but have no such application.15:53
adeen-s'gstreamer1.0-droid-tools = 0:1.0.0-1' is already installed.15:56
mal-adeen-s: not gstreamer1.0-droid-tools, gstreamer-1.0-tools15:57
mal-a small difference in the package names15:58
adeen-smal-: OK16:01
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Qno_Is it possible to add ngfd-plugin-droid-vibrator somehow manually, because it's just doesn't happen by
mal-of course you can build any of the packages manually16:13
Qno_mal-: with cmake?16:15
mal-Qno_: no, the way the packages are built, check rpm/dhd/helpers/util.sh16:16
mal-what is the problem with ngfd-plugin-droid-vibrator?16:17
Qno_building hangs in there everytime. If you skip it, everything else builds fine16:18
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Qno_"hangs" means hours without any progress16:22
mal-that is very strange because the srouce hasn't changed in a long time16:23
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ghosalmartinits funny how qcom broke there own xml files by having comments before the xml declarations16:52
r0kk3rzghosalmartin, be a lot funnier if they werent the dominant SoC vendor...16:55
ghosalmartinr0kk3rz: i bet haha16:56
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bpeetersfirst off: i'm more impressived with sailfish than i'd imagined :) secondly: i've got it on my oneplus, but i can't seem to make calls (gives call ended, network error, and some other errors, in no particular order)19:18
bpeetersi can't seem to find "making calls is not possible" as normal for the port, so i was wondering if anyone has any suggestions?19:19
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mal-bpeeters: the port status page lists calls as not working
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mal-not sure if the problem with calls is the same that I had on the fairphone 2 port19:27
bpeetersi was hoping the 'untested' would mean possible :( would it be possible to flash another radio to get it to work? or is that just wishfull thinking as well?19:28
mal-it depends on the reason, if it's the same as on fp2 then it's just a matter of building some packages and small about of patching of init scripts19:30
r0kk3rzbpeeters, if you want to help then start looking through journalctl for error messages19:31
mal-logcat output would be even more interesting19:31
drFaustrollghosalmartin: hi19:32
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drFaustrollghosalmartin: so you try a proper 32bit19:32
drFaustrollghosalmartin: I wonder how will that help with the vendor bits19:32
juicemehokay, now I have built & flashed my brand new hammerhead image.19:34
r0kk3rzjuiceme, does it boot?19:35
juicemewhat happens, is the device boots up so that I can connect to it via USB (telnet 2323) but the graphics does not boot up19:35
juicemeI can telnet to it19:36
juicemebut screen stays in the "google" + lock icon view19:36
r0kk3rzit should give you instructions in the telnet19:36
r0kk3rzi suggest you follow them19:36
juicemeI had this before with my nexus-7 but cannot remember hoe I fixed it :)19:37
juicemeah, so it does119:37
juicemewill try19:37
drFaustrolljuiceme: cm13?19:38
drFaustrolljuiceme: ok then you forgot something since we built the images just fine19:39
juicemecould be19:40
drFaustrolljuiceme: look through the flow of this thing.. shall give you working images19:40
bpeetersr0kk3rz: journalctl says there are no journal logfiles, and i was expecting logs in /var/log but it only has a few lines in systemboot.log and nothing else useful19:40
drFaustrollbpeeters: you need to be root19:41
r0kk3rzbpeeters, no syslog so no /var/log, journalctl needs to be run as root19:41
juicemedrFaustroll, I need no working images19:41
juicemethe whole point of the exercise is to roll my own19:41
r0kk3rzbpeeters, but like mal- said, more information can be obtained from logcat as well19:42
mal-bpeeters: /usr/libexec/droid-hybris/system/bin/logcat19:42
sledgesdrFaustroll: rumour has it, telepathy-ring is now in cellular apps pattern from 2.0.0:)19:43
drFaustrollsledges: maybe yes maybe not19:43
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drFaustrollsledges: you seein in the scripts? I think I didnot push the latest scripts up19:44
juicemeokay, dmesg says there are some partition problems19:44
juiceme[  212.017274] systemd-gpt-auto-generator[407]: Failed to verify GPT partition /dev/mmcblk0rpmb: No such device19:44
bpeeterstakes some getting used to sailfish :) @mal-: logcat is filled with "isvaliddimension: layer handle is NULL" errors, still waiting for anything more useful to pass by19:45
juicemehowever it seems to be available19:45
juicemebrw-rw---- 1 root root 179,  32 Jan  1  1970 mmcblk0rpmb19:45
mal-bpeeters: anything like waiting for service audioflinger?19:46
Stskeepshappy-dude: can be ignored19:46
sledgesdrFaustroll: no, just helped a porter with it yesterday19:46
Stskeepsjuiceme: can be ignored19:46
sledgesand i think i recommended too much:)19:46
juicemeStskeeps, thanks19:46
mal-bpeeters: those isvaliddimension errors are common and not a problem19:47
juicemeafter that, there are also other errors in dmesg concerning systemd19:47
drFaustrolljuiceme: check the link... has all the commands to generate a working image... look through them and understand what needs to be done19:47
juiceme[  212.017712] systemd[1]: /lib/systemd/system-generators/systemd-gpt-auto-generator exited with exit status 1.19:47
drFaustrolljuiceme: makes no sense to reinvent the wheel when all  you need is to read to learn about it19:47
juicemedrFaustroll, is that different as explained in the HADK?19:48
drFaustrollsledges: are you working in a parallel universe?19:48
bpeetersfrom journalctl i get connection refused for pulse audio and ausrv from tonegend, still looking for others19:48
drFaustrolljuiceme: yes works...19:48
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bpeetersmal-: nothing about audioflinger in logcat or journalctl19:52
juicemeobviously I need to do some more digging and try to recreate the image.19:55
bpeetersi do have tonegend errors about dtmf_play: can't create stream19:55
juicemeit is possible I have made some error step on da way19:55
sledgesdrFaustroll: im not working:)) Still digesting19:57
drFaustrollsledges: i see i did nto know you become a python19:58
juicemehmm, odd, systemd seems to be progressing slowly19:58
r0kk3rzbpeeters, copy output onto a pastebin or somesuch19:58
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sledgesdrFaustroll: or a hat, but yes, elephant for xmas19:59
drFaustrollsledges: that is why i try to avoid people over holidays... all want to feed you20:00
bpeetersr0kk3rz: journalctl:
bpeeterslogcat: (without the blanking and validdimension errors)20:05
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ghosalmartindrFaustroll: hey, well am trying a cm13 32bit build, having issues building atm, and who knows we'll just have to wait and see20:54
drFaustrollghosalmartin: the official cm13 is 64 bit?20:55
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ghosalmartindrFaustroll: yes, but I think they have a 32bit flag21:02
drFaustrollghosalmartin: is ok at least you can check that all boots before you start hopping for yours21:06
bpeetersthank god i screw around with roms in multirom because i just went from a sailfish that doesn't call to one that doesn't boot.. guess that's not an improvement21:09
Nokiusmal-: Hi sorry for dump pings last weekend21:12
ghosalmartindrFaustroll: pretty much, but currently ive hit a problem in compiling lol21:17
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juicemei am not convinced that it was a good thing to go systemd... more and more it seems to me sysv init was the correct way all along... :(21:24
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ghosalmartinat this point, is it possible to just build sailfish 64bit lol21:48
nh1402modify mer to support 64bit, or whatever is needed to build sailfish 64 bit. Phones are starting to creep in with 4 GB RAM (and force touch) and if a community port can't support 100% of the hardware by design then people are going to be upset.21:52
bpeetersupset? nah, i think sad would be a more appropriate wording (like me not being able to use sailfish as my daily driver on the OPO)21:54
nh1402bad choice of word there21:54
ghosalmartindevastated would fit better haha21:54
bpeeterswell, let's be honest... what would, for example, android be without it's community and all the custom roms? *nothing*21:55
nh1402I plan to get the Xperia Z6 (based on the rumours it sounds exactly what I'm looking for), which will also have a 64bit Snapdragon 820 SoC (all but confirmed, unless they make the wrong choice again and stick with the Snapdragon 810), 4GB RAM (rumoured), force touch (again, rumoured) amongst other things.21:56
bpeetersi'm not ready to let my OPO go yet... still the best phone i've had, and i've had more than i care to admit21:57
nh1402bpeeters: exactly, the app permissions thing has been around in some custom roms for years now, same goes with multi-window. Samsung and LG have had it for a while, Cyanogenmod had a project called cornerstone which was scrapped for some reason, and now they decide it should be a standard feature.21:58
ghosalmartinnh1402: getting sfos onto it might be a different matter though21:58
bpeetersnh1402: doesn't the z6 have a terrible screen/size ratio with its borders?21:59
nh1402one thing I really really hate about android is that they don't get rid of the stupid navigation bar at the bottom, I understand the top status bar being there but the navigation bar is just ridiculous, such a waste of space and use of the touch screen.22:00
nh1402bpeeters: well the z6 isn't out yet, but all previous version do have an annoying top and bottom bezel yes, due in part to the dual front facing speakers. I hate them as much as the next guy, but in terms of specifications its one of the only ones left not to have gone insane with screen size.22:01
bpeetersisn't the navbar for devices without hardware buttons (not that i can think of one off the top of my head)... but i don't know in AOSP, but atleast in exodus you can choose if it's there or not22:02
ghosalmartini think the concept of the back button is just bad22:02
bpeetersheh, screensize... that's becoming a dick-measurement amongst kids, had the kid of a friend show off his new phone this summer... freaking 6 inches, didn't even fit decently into his pocket22:03
nh1402I hate the disgusting "Touchwiz" rubbish that Samsung use, as well as the capacitive buttons why the heck are they still around, and the fact they copy Apple with the worst possible parts of the phone, thickness and battery size.22:03
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bpeetershate touchwiz (doesn't everybody), but i personally do prefer capacitive buttons over on-screen ones (no clue why)22:04
nh1402LG are rumoured to go even bigger with the G5 which is just stupidly insane, HTC assets have become worthless and latest phone a bit stale (funny how people put up with Sony's design language but if HTC does it, they hate it and it has to go)22:05
ghosalmartinI think stock Android is by far the best look22:05
ghosalmartinI remember using PIE controls, they were quite handy22:06
nh1402I got rid of the nav bar in favour of PIE controls, but I still didn't think that was the right way to handle it.22:06
bpeetersohgodno, the PIE controls are not my thing22:07
nh1402I stopped using PIE controls, mainly because I couldn't be bothered to keep installing it when flashing a new rom.22:07
ghosalmartinnh1402: at a time they came with cm22:07
bpeetersone of the things that surprised me when trying on sailfish on my OPO was that i was so quick to like it, since i dislike most variations on how to navigate my phone22:07
ghosalmartinkicking off another cm13 32bit build, wish me luck :P22:08
nh1402the other thing that I hate is that the onscreen keyboard takes just over a third of the display, and doesn't sound like the best way of going about it, so I tried the snapkeys keyboard, but no matter how hard I try, I just can't get use to that keyboard.22:08
nh1402although Sailfish has the same problem, I seem to make less mistakes with that keyboard than the one with Android.22:10
nh1402and can type faster with it.22:10
bpeetersnoticed that too, quite liked most of sailfish22:10
bpeetersexcept the part where the port can't be used for calling on the OPO, that's a bit of a buzzkill22:11
bpeetersi wonder how they'll survive though, they don't have a lot of devices, and they aren't really known... not like samsung would use sailfish for their devices22:14
bpeetersand with microsoft now trying to get a piece of the market back with w10 and their universal apps idea, it'll be even less likely for sailfish to become a decent shareholder for mobile22:15
ghosalmartinI think SFOS will be whatever the community makes of it, thats based on two things though, Jolla disbanding and the community has access to the source of the UI22:15
mal-bpeeters: you can always try to fix it, it requires some work22:15
bpeetersmal-: i would love to, but i have no idea where to start... didn't get much wiser out of the logs except for pulseaudio not starting and errors from telepathy22:17
nh1402thought I would give that keyboard another stab, but they've completely abandoned it22:18
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nh1402a real shame, was a good concept 4 squares instead of a third of the display wasted away with a keyboard, could even be invisible once you get used to it, could have been a real game changer.22:20
mal-bpeeters: so no audio is working for you?22:24
bpeetersno, i tried several of the fixes posted online but still can't get any audio22:26
bpeetersin the meantime i'm now reinstalling sailfish because i screwed up and got it stuck in a bootloop a while back (and thus, took a break from trying to think about it)22:26
mal-bpeeters: then why is audio listed as working in the status table22:26
bpeetersfrom what i found around on the forums, some users do have audio (mp3) working22:27
mal-how about the sound menu in settings, does that play anything22:28
bpeeterswill try when i've got the install back up and running22:31
nh1402anyone give the android app layer a stab on anything other than the Nexus 5 while I was gone?22:46
ghosalmartinjust saw this on the cynagenmod channel: Apparently the coding for the IR sensor is not allowed in CM1322:49
ghosalmartini thought IR sensors were closed off anyways22:49
bpeetersmal-: nope, no sound anywhere22:51
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bpeetersmal-: got sounds working on a fresh install, still figuring out if i can get calls to work though22:58
taaembpeeters: try to call someone and logcat simultaniously22:59
taaemE/ACDB-LOADER( 1326): ACDB -> Not correctly initialized!23:06
taaemthis looks bad23:06
taaemacdb is the audio calibration database, some qualcomm tech23:07
taaembut maybe mal- knows more23:07
taaembpeeters: ^23:08
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bpeeterstaaem: this is also suspicious: telepathy-ring[1322]: GLIB WARNING ** Ring - Call.Dial: message="Operation already in progress" reason=ERROR (6) cause=org.ofono.Error.InProgress23:22
Guhldoes anyboby know where the layouts for hardware keyboards are stored?23:31
ghosalmartinthe almighty porting gods must hate me to have me run out of space midbuild23:34
bpeetersghosalmartin: so far for you cm13 build luck?23:42
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ghosalmartinbpeeters: well for some reason the binary apks pulled from device are causing issues23:42
ghosalmartinand it crashes again because it cant make a tmp dir23:44
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bpeetersgot rid of the acdb errors, still no joy on calls23:54
taaembpeeters: search in op forums for ubuntu touch thread maybe they found a solution23:59

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