Saturday, 2016-02-13

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kimmoliref stephg for those w/o faceboik
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Nokiusoh what is he doing :o07:02
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Nokiusthe moment of truth07:09
Nokiusnice it's boots \o/ nothing lost07:10
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situNokius: ping07:23
Nokiussitu: \o07:36
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Nokiusudev was misssing calling works sound may missing :s07:37
situNokius: did you see my pm yesterday ?07:37
Nokiussitu:sorry pm are some how not working :(07:37
situNokius: Let me try again.07:38
NokiusI have to fight this today07:38
Nokiusfor dunno reasn irssi is hiding it07:38
Nokiusquite odd try twitter of time beeing07:38
Nokiussorry the inconvions07:38
situNokius: You need to follow me for that :)07:39
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mal-Nokius: that's not going to work07:47
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mal-Nokius: add it here
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TheRealJohnGalt_Hello. I've been using the hammerhead build as a daily driver without android apps and no major issues. I just noticed that bluetooth *seems* to work, but with bluetooth sound bars I can't get music to play on them (just plays on phone speakers). Because it looks like it's working, and support states it does, is there just something I'm missing for getting08:46
TheRealJohnGalt_bluetooth audio output enabled?08:46
TheRealJohnGalt_wow, sorry. #sailfishos is probably a better place than a porting chan.08:50
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sledgesTheRealJohnGalt_: hi! well, it's something about hammerhead only, so this channel is perfect:)08:53
sledgeslooking into bluez and pulseaudio stacks could probably be debuggable08:54
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sledgesTheRealJohnGalt: just replied your message, check logs if you missed it08:55
TheRealJohnGaltsledges: okay, cool. Ty. Because I haven't seen anything posted on it (searched forum threads as well), I'm more inclined to believe it's a user issue (not enabling something required for audio routing, etc)?08:55
sledgesbluetooth audio is quite rare use case08:56
TheRealJohnGaltThe build still kicks ass. I'm amazed at how well I made the transition to full sailfish :)08:56
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sledgesand audio routing is most of the time involving devs, unless you expect a volume switcher somewhere in UI, e.g. among paired audio devices08:57
sledgesbut i wouldn't think there is (easy to check)08:57
TheRealJohnGaltah, gotcha. I spaced that this is ultimately just linux and pulseaudio. I can probably debug this on my own for a bit :)08:57
sledgesTheRealJohnGalt: thanks, i still won't settle until video recording works though:))08:58
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TheRealJohnGaltYeah. I still have cm13 with multirom on it if needed, and it's not an only phone. I very rarely do video recording over photos though.08:59
sledgeshave you tried sfdroid?:)09:00
TheRealJohnGaltNow I'm just wanting to get a solid port on my bullhead :D09:00
TheRealJohnGaltsledges: I was considering it, but I don't use gapps or anything, so don't really have a use for it.09:00
sledgesghosalmartin is at it:)09:00
TheRealJohnGaltawesome :)09:01
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TheRealJohnGaltsailfish actually makes me want to get a candy bar style phone again. I think navigation would excel on smaller displays. current android ux sucks on smaller displays.09:02
TheRealJohnGaltAnyway, I'll post whatever I figure out re: bluetooth audio. I use it multiple times a day. Ultimately it's just nice to be back on sailfish. Reminds me of the good old n900 days :D09:04
sledgesget oneplusX ;)09:05
sledges\o/ keep us posted, dwangoAC will switch to n5 soon and will desperately need handsfree to work09:05
sledgesit's a show stopper for him09:05
sledges*handfree Bluetooth set09:06
* sledges <- coffee09:06
TheRealJohnGaltcool, will do. oneplus x is too similar to my n5x. when I say candy bar, I mean that I think it would be cool to have a modern 3.5" display device with sailfish. I don't think it would suffer from display size as much as android would.09:08
sledgesyep, we got a handful of old candish devices ported09:09
TheRealJohnGaltvery cool. ty again sledges09:10
sledgescheer smate:)09:10
sledgescheers mate x)09:10
drFaustrollsledges: hi09:14
drFaustrollsledges: tested bt ans was ok.. I wordered a new pair of headphone to see09:14
drFaustrollsledges: but the connection was good09:14
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r0kk3rzsledges: is there a way for OBS to build full port images?09:16
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sledgesdrFaustroll: cool, please address that to a person who asked:)09:17
sledgesr0kk3rz: yes, but needs some glue09:18
r0kk3rzsledges: what kind of glue?09:18
drFaustrollsledges: r0kk3rz glue is ilegal in many places in europe be careful09:18
sledgeshere's a PoC
drFaustrollsledges: I did a chimeric image... strangely enough seems to be fine09:19
sledgesi need to opensource the droid-bin-...-full-src spec09:19
sledgeswhich is modular etc.. the PoC was still monolithic09:19
sledgesthat's the glue09:20
Nokiussitu: I will09:20
TheRealJohnGaltdrFaustroll: on hammerhead bt was okay? I'm on (willing to update as well if you tested on something else).09:20
Nokiusi was beliving I do :s09:20
r0kk3rzsledges: cool :)09:20
drFaustrollTheRealJohnGalt: i tested on
drFaustrollit connects pushed the sound to the headphones09:21
locusfr0kk3rz: sledges:
drFaustrolli had one of these crazy dongles09:21
drFaustrollI did not test calls since I do not use obsolete techmologies09:21
sledgeslocusf: that's imager09:22
locusfsledges: yes and?09:22
Nokiusmal-: thx09:22
r0kk3rzlocusf: looks interesting does it work?09:22
locusfr0kk3rz: it does09:22
locusfjust a nice front-end to mic09:22
TheRealJohnGaltinteresting. I didn't test calls either, just two bluetooth sound bars (no mic or anything). They pair fine, and even reconnect alright. No audio plays however. And to turn bluetooth off after pairing, I need to reboot the device (forgot that part).09:23
sledgeslocusf: r0kk3rz nope, still doesn't work, cc lbt :)09:23
TheRealJohnGaltwell, using media app, audio plays out of phone speakers. so it does play.09:23
sledges(for hadk builds)09:23
r0kk3rzlocusf: ah i see, more thinking about stuff on OBS, so i can link wiki device pages to automatic builds09:24
locusfsledges: ah ok09:24
r0kk3rzso if a porter wants to distribute through wiki page, they have to have their own on obs09:24
drFaustrollTheRealJohnGalt: not my experience09:24
sledgesr0kk3rz: we also have community's baked local build automation:
drFaustrollTheRealJohnGalt: and I had a stupid dongle that i grabbed from ebay for 3 pounds09:24
* lbt adds a bug to update IMG09:25
sledgesr0kk3rz: they can still build all locally09:26
* sledges thanks lbt09:26
drFaustrollsledges: updated tizen today,.. bloody gell they learnt how to use high resolution09:26
sledgesr0kk3rz: but that prevents them to do OTA, so yes, OBS is the way09:26
drFaustrolllbt: cool...09:27
lbtbug 150609:27
merbot`lbt: Error: Error getting Nemo bug #1506: InvalidBugId09:27
drFaustrolllbt: though this time seems not to be such tragic09:27
locusflbt: cheers, nice to see it still updating :)09:27
Nokiussitu: done sorry again09:27
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lbthmm merbot in here should be looking at MER# bugs by default09:27
lbtso does MER#1506 work ?09:28
sledgeslbt: in here no, elsewhere yes:)09:28
sledgeswe changed it on purpose09:28
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Nokiusodd I can make calls as wanted but I can't hear09:31
Nokiusok something is fishie09:32
mal-Nokius: are you sure all changes are there, is the glue service running?09:33
mal-Nokius: is pulseaudio working?09:33
situNokius: sent09:33
mal-Nokius: did you remember to modify the pulseaudio configs09:33
TheRealJohnGaltis the jolla-here app available anywhere? Or would I need to get it from a jolla phone?09:35
Nokiusmal-: I have audio09:35
Nokiussitu: checking09:35
r0kk3rzOk, any wiki editors, if you look at the first few rows of the glorious HADK table you will see a couple of new ways of having the device row. One is to create a device_codename template page like the one i made for the FP2, or if you look a bit further down the table you can just use a template to create the row09:36
r0kk3rzmal-: if you want to update the fp2 device status, you need to use that template, should be pretty easy to understand09:37
mal-r0kk3rz: yes, looks like it09:37
Nokiusmal-: also drops service codes :s09:37
Nokiusmal-: I missed the udev rules hope I missed not more09:37
Nokiusmy lates changes
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* Nokius afk :(09:39
Nokiuscu later09:39
Nokiusr0kk3rz: nice work ;)09:39
mal-Nokius: do you have the latest ofono?09:39
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taaemr0kk3rz: thats nice :P09:42
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mal-syncing cm13, let's see if I manage to make a port based on it09:58
taaemmal-: which device?09:59
mal-galaxy tab 410:00
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taaemFor all OPX users dr_gogeta86, kimmoli here is a boot.img that *should* enable double tap 2 wake even on non-patched mce, i just modified DOUBLE_TAP to send KEY_POWER to device, please test!2d4WRbbD!uPtY6MmE3gh1qtPh9-yZauxGx7gMYA_BhsThKCamXZM10:53
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sledgesr0kk3rz: added your PSA to the first link in /topic :) awesome sawesome!10:59
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Gabs5807hello sailfishos porters, i would like to help testing sailfishos in fairphone2. Are there any beta tester required for that?11:01
r0kk3rzsledges: cool, should be a bit more maintainable now11:01
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taaemr0kk3rz: only thing is that its a bit harder to add a new device :P11:03
r0kk3rztaaem: no its not, you want a new device you just copypasta an existing row and fix the Y/N/?11:04
r0kk3rzwhich is easier than what you do before :P11:04
r0kk3rzbecause you dont need to fix colours11:04
mal-Gabs5807: there is a plan to release a testing version of the fp2 port some time next week unless something unexpected happens11:04
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taaemr0kk3rz: i mean with Device_Name templates since you have to modify in 2 places but its not hard11:06
r0kk3rztaaem: yeah you're right, those device_codename templates feed into fancy device pages as well11:07
r0kk3rzbut if you dont yet have a fancy device page, then its easy11:07
r0kk3rztaaem: by fancy device page i mean
taaemr0kk3rz: yep saw that site already11:08
Gabs5807mal-: thats fine :-). Is it then available at libhybris? Or where can i get it then?11:09
mal-Gabs5807: we haven't decided yet where it will be hosted, but I expect there to a post telling that at fairphone forums when it's released11:11
smurfyHi guy's, just got my fairphone2 and wanted to ask how i can help getting sailfish os for it. I did an app for sf and contributed to others and i thinking of, if its still needed, try to implement a fm radio frontend app.11:11
drFaustrollsmurfy: speak with mal-11:12
drFaustrollsmurfy: the radio app i think already exists11:12
mal-smurfy: you just missed the info: there is a plan to release a testing version of the fp2 port some time next week unless something unexpected happens11:12
drFaustrollsmurfy: mal- kimmoli11:12
mal-radio app exists but it doesn't have audio yet11:13
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smurfymal-: ok well, something else i maybe can help with?11:14
mal-smurfy: not at the moment, after the first test release I would appreciate testing of it11:15
smurfymal-: sure, i don't like android so i hoped to have sf2, but got my fp early (expected it next week). I did not plan to use it with android. So i continue using my jolla until you guys release it.11:17
smurfyDoes the backup/restore option if sailfish work to migrate phones?11:18
mal-smurfy: I haven't tried that yet11:19
smurfymal-: ok no probs. i will try that then, it's not that important.11:20
Gabs5807smurfy: I did not tried it on th jolla phone, but i think it should work to transfer the backup.tar (contains some git files) to the migrated phone11:21
mal-I can test it also11:22
mal-Gabs5807: do you know where backups are?11:23
smurfymal-: you either can copy the git files or use the "gui" way by swapping sd cards11:23
smurfymal-: on jolla copy to sd card, on fp copy from sd11:24
mal-smurfy: but where are the git files?11:24
Gabs5807mal-: You can tranfer then to the SD card after backing up11:24
smurfymal-: .vault11:26
smurfymal-: in /home/nemo/.vault     this is a local git repo11:27
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Gabs5807mal-: e.g. /media/sdcard/7712-7A26/Backup.tar11:28
mal-damn, my backups are 1.9 Gb11:28
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mal-I should remove the old ones11:28
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r0kk3rzmal-: fixed your 'insert new column in the middle of the table' problem11:47
mal-r0kk3rz: I noticed11:47
r0kk3rzhow? ive only just fixed it :P11:47
mal-oh, I thought you fixed it earlier, I saw the names for the columns11:48
r0kk3rzyeah, now if you dont put in a variable definition, it prints a ? in that column11:48
r0kk3rzso {{Hadktablerow}} gets you a new row with all ?s11:49
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mal-r0kk3rz: nice work11:52
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mal-smurfy: Gabs5807 backup restoring work, I copied the files from my jolla phone to fp2 using sdcard and only using the UI11:57
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Gabs5807mal-: Thats really fine :-)11:59
mal-hmm, for some reason contacts didn't copy12:00
spiirointaaem: btw, that double tap KEY_POWER - is it coming from the same evdev node as touch input?12:01
spiirointaaem: if not, it gets treated as normal power key - not double tap (proximity does not stop power key by default etc)12:03
kimmoliiirc it comes from same12:03
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Gabs5807mal-: I grep for some names at the git repository (after extracting the Backup.tar), but didn't found any of them (?).12:05
Gabs5807mal-: May be they are not saved?12:07
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smurfymal-: ok cool. so migration would work. Maybe i will build a small migration app to work in wlan by connecting the old phone and fetching the git data. So you don't need to use an sd card.12:15
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smurfymal-: by thinking about it, it probably work by connecting via ssh to the old phone, start local git in "server mode" and then clone the repo on the new phone.12:18
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Gabs5807mal-: at git is a People/data/all.vcf. So the contacts should also be there ..12:27
mal-Gabs5807: yes, the data is there12:28
mal-Gabs5807: and even log I can see that the converter is seeing the contacts but nothing shows up in UI12:30
smurfyoh oh, what have i started here :D12:37
mal-interesting problem12:48
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Gabs5807mal-: can you import the all.vcf manually? I normally open it with file browser ..12:58
Gabs5807mal-: It should start the import action of the contact app13:00
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mal-Gabs5807: part of the contact are imported that way13:06
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Gabs5807mal-: is there a syntax problem in the file? Or duplicate entries? or something like that ..13:14
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mal-Gabs5807: of course bluetooth sync works13:16
mal-but the file is not working properly, at least when taken from backups13:16
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Gabs5807mal-: Very strange. A restore on my jolla from the sd card backup also restores my deleted contacts ..13:22
mal-I'll investigate this problem later13:24
Gabs5807mal-: yes. If bluetooth sync and other ways are working, it is a minor problem :-).13:26
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mal-r0kk3rz: just a little idea for the OTA updates template, it might be useful to have a customizable release field, like devel vs testing15:02
r0kk3rzmal-: sure whatever makes sense15:03
r0kk3rzfeel free to add/remove/rejig to suit15:03
mal-r0kk3rz: ok15:04
r0kk3rzmost of that was just me getting some content out of the hammerhead page and into templates15:04
r0kk3rzhopefully more devices will do OTA, apkd, sfdroid and such15:05
mal-OTA at least should start to be more common15:05
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marxistveganhey folks is conference calling a feature?15:27
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marxistveganas in does it work?15:28
marxistvegani can make two separate calls but it is unclear how to connect the two15:28
marxistveganrunning the Nexus5 version15:28
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marxistveganmay have found the patch in openrepos15:34
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r0kk3rzmarxistvegan: theres no UI for it16:20
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marxistveganr0kk3rz: hmmm i see16:20
r0kk3rzit apparently does work on jolla phone, not sure about nexus516:20
dwangoACTheRealJohnGalt: I loved my N90016:21
dwangoACsledges: I was able to pair my Bluetooth headset but it was low on battery and I haven't tried making a call yet16:21
dwangoACMaybe later today16:21
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marxistveganr0kk3rz: no success on my part but becuase I need it later i am just running cyanogen on the multiboot16:22
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r0kk3rzmarxistvegan: yeah its something jolla just hasnt done yet, and so it doesnt get tested by porters16:27
marxistveganr0kk3rz: yeah I hear ya16:27
marxistveganthanks I try to make sailfish my daily use16:28
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Nokiusmal-: ofono-1.17+git7-10.25.1.jolla.armv7hl :s16:56
NokiusI used monich repo odd16:57
Nokiusin the ks16:57
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Nokiusit's teh latest17:02
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Nokiussledges situ taaem I found my issue now I should see you pings17:11
Nokiusand pongs17:12
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piggzguys, when using mb2, is is possible to 'rebuild' an rpm by oly compiling changed files?18:09
Stskeepsthat's what mb2 does18:11
Stskeepsit doesn't clean up in between18:12
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piggzStskeeps: sure seems to ... runs configure every time19:37
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piggzand says CC <file> for every file19:39
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mal-piggz: nice19:52
piggzmal-: i actually didnt think it would work ... but somehow, by magic it does!19:53
piggzi havnt even told ofon the gateway address, so im scratching my head wondering how!19:53
piggz(yes, wifi is turned off)19:53
piggzcan i get connman to print all the connection info??19:55
piggzmal-: can i get lipstick to stop hiding entries becuase it thinks ofono is wrong, without everytime doing the dconf trick?19:57
mal-piggz: my xperias also don't have gateway address in use19:59
mal-those are also old, from 201120:00
piggzcool ... wha ril version? ... ive made some serious mods to ofono to get it to work20:00
mal-piggz: it's a ril 3 but there is wrapper to make it appear as ril 620:03
piggzah right20:03
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Nokiusmal-: odd latest ofno and no caller sound21:27
Nokiusbut test-modem even frez21:27
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mal-Nokius: the service is running properly?22:01
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Nokiusmal-: which service ?22:14
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mal-Nokius: miniafservice22:16
Nokiusmal-: this is22:16
Nokiussystem     788  0.0  0.1  21640  3304 ?        Sl   22:49   0:00 /usr/libexec/droid-hybris/system/bin/miniafservice22:16
Nokiuswondring if ril is picky22:17
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Nokiusor I shoul try set-speaker-volume22:20
mal-Nokius: do sms work?22:20
Nokiusfrom ofono tools22:20
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mal-Nokius: but not from UI?22:21
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Nokiusor ofono ussd don't show up too22:23
Nokiussms works22:26
Nokiuswhen I change the volume noting happens22:28
Nokiusfound the problem22:31
mal-Nokius: what was it?22:31
Nokiusfor some reasons had no glue module22:31
Nokiusmay I have old rpm in obs which is missing the file22:32
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mal-Nokius: yes, you have configs from 9.222:35
Nokiusspeaker sound great first time that I use it22:35
Nokiusmal-: thx22:36
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Nokiusto that's then the smae why media is not working :(22:39
mal-Nokius: it's easy to rebuild that and install on device22:40
paulnoisehi, im looking for some help, is there an easy way to install sailfish on a sony z3? i am currently running cyanogenmod and wanted to try sailfish22:40
Nokiusmal-: I transmitt the rpms atm22:41
Nokiuspaulnoise: u can try this how to
mal-but that's for z3c not z322:42
Nokiuspaulnoise: hope u have z3c :s22:42
paulnoisei have a normal z3, its d665322:43
Nokiuspaulnoise: then u are the luck first one and can try to get SFOS on this device :)22:44
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paulnoisehaha, i dont feel lucky. i have a sony xperia s in the house i may try on first22:45
Nokiuspaulnoise: mal- did it for bunch of xperia mal u have more luck with this22:45
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paulnoiseany help i can get will be good. i will have a look at the sailfish website when i get home and try tomorrow maybe. how long does it usually take? also is it possible to do without a windows computer? my phone is already rooted22:51
paulnoisei use linux mint OS but caninstall windows if needed22:51
mal-no windows is needed22:52
mal-any linux distro will do22:52
mal-paulnoise: the basic starting point is this pdf
Nokiuspaulnoise: no need for M$ windows but may u need windows like terminal windows22:53
paulnoisei can use my wifes windows laptop if needed or dual boot.  has anyone managed to port to a sony z3 compact tablet?  i used to work with sony they used to give me devices :)22:54
mal-paulnoise: I have ported to 5 xperias from 2011 so I assume xperia s from 2012 might not be very different, but anyway we are here to help so if you encounter problems just ask here22:55
paulnoiseok, i will :) it looks like i have a lot to learn on the subject so will probably start tomorrow when i am more awake, i have a friend who can probably help me too, he is good with software development etc22:56
Nokiusmal-: is zypper update working22:57
Nokiusto get the new pkgs from obs22:57
mal-paulnoise: but don't worry about the bad status of most sonys in the status table here after those were attempted we have learned a lot and probably have fixes to most of the problems22:57
Nokiusah I have to add the obs repo22:57
mal-Nokius: yes22:58
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mal-paulnoise: the hadk pdf is mostly copying command to run and occasional adding of device specific info, after you have followed through the hadk then you should a image that will boot at least to debug terminal, after that we can help23:00
paulnoisethats great, thankyou. i need to go now but i have lots to think about.23:00
paulnoisegood night23:00
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mal-Nokius: so next problem is figuring out why sensors are not working23:04
Nokiusmal-: should this be adaption0 ?23:06
Nokiusand then zypper ref ; zypper up23:06
NokiusError: nothing provides ambient-icons-closed-z@ICON_RES@ needed by pattern:jolla-ui-configuration-find7s-.noarch23:15
Nokiushappend during version --dup23:15
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Nokiusah zypper up is doing the wanted task :D23:16
Nokiusaah and broke stuff haha23:18
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Nokiussome thing is wrong may upddate was not succsesful or my rpms are wrong23:25
mal-what was broken?23:26
Nokiuspulse again23:27
Nokiusso some thing is wrong23:27
Nokiusalso media play is still not working23:27
NokiusI should sleep now an dtry to fix it later today or during the next days23:28
mal-Nokius: the configs packages are still old23:28
mal-Nokius: droid-config-find7s-1+master.2016020919224823:29
Nokiusyes right23:30
NokiusI have to trigger git as taaem mention23:30
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Nokiusmal-: thx I updated just droid-hal-find7s23:32
Nokiusok audio is availibe during calls but user is not able to adjust it :s23:39
Nokiusmedia playback (local) also not fixed23:39
Nokiustime for some sleep23:41
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