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| kimmoli | dev? r0kk3rz /sys/bus/i2c has busses 0 1 2 6, with 4 devices. 3 in bus 2, one in bus 6 | 06:14 |
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| r0kk3rz | kimmoli: interesting, thanks | 06:40 |
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| r0kk3rz | i realised last night that i2c 12 is on the dsp | 06:41 |
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| nh1402 | sledges: The first phone that comes with Android 7 is the LG V20, I don't believe it's coming to Europe, but today Google will be announcing the HTC Marlin, and HTC Sailfish I believe the announcement is at 6pm GMT+1 | 07:29 |
| r0kk3rz | the pixel whatever looks a bit boring | 07:32 |
| r0kk3rz | the only interesting thing is that goog are selling it through carriers | 07:32 |
| nh1402 | r0kk3rz: it does look hideous, I'm only mentioning them to get libhybris working with AOSP7, ready for the new batch of phones next year, and later this year. | 07:34 |
| nh1402 | r0kk3rz: the V20 has all this audio stuff they are advertising but it doesn't come with dual front facing stereo speakers which makes it pointless imo, that and the battery size for the phone size is tiny. | 07:37 |
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| r0kk3rz | we havent got aarch64 working yet :P | 07:43 |
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| nh1402 | r0kk3rz: well we're certainly closer than we were this time last year for getting aarch64 working. | 07:46 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah progress looks good | 07:47 |
| nh1402 | r0kk3rz: and sledges is working on 32bit libyhybris AOSP6 via the Nexus 5, the same can be done for AOSP7 | 07:54 |
| nh1402 | r0kk3rz: as for the new "Pixel" phones being sold through carriers, that's what Huawei were told would happen with the 6P last year, which was going to be their "in" to the US market, but it didn't happen, which it sounds to me like they got all sour about it and pulled the plug on their contract. | 07:57 |
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| nh1402 | Sony should really agree to make a Pixel phone, bundle it with their mainline kernel project and that would be one heck of a development phone. | 07:58 |
| nh1402 | ghosalmartin: morning | 07:58 |
| ghosalmartin | nh1402: morning | 07:59 |
| ghosalmartin | doesnt the pixel phone look exactly like the iphone :P | 07:59 |
| nh1402 | in either case, it's Hideous | 08:00 |
| ghosalmartin | does their mainline kernel project have gpu support? | 08:00 |
| nh1402 | ghosalmartin: I have no idea, I'm assuming it does as the announcement post mentioned Freedreno | 08:01 |
| r0kk3rz | sony should just bring out a sailfish phone | 08:07 |
| r0kk3rz | its clear they dont really care about making money from their smartphone division | 08:08 |
| ghosalmartin | what do they want from their smartphone division then? | 08:08 |
| nh1402 | ghosalmartin: losses, of course | 08:08 |
| r0kk3rz | they believe that as part of being a modern consumer electronics company, that you should have a smartphone division | 08:08 |
| r0kk3rz | that not to have one, is simply unthinhkable | 08:09 |
| ghosalmartin | i see...sailfish it is then :P i havew a friend that will only buy sony phones | 08:09 |
| nh1402 | they're basically showcasing the different stuff they make in one package, cameras, screens, speakers, batteries, so others can buy parts from them for their phones. | 08:09 |
| ghosalmartin | refuses everything else | 08:09 |
| ghosalmartin | but hes just stubborn | 08:09 |
| ghosalmartin | or comfortalbe | 08:09 |
| nh1402 | ghosalmartin: at least he's not hell bent on getting iPhones | 08:10 |
| ghosalmartin | nh1402: indeed | 08:11 |
| nh1402 | I have a friend who's stuck with Sony, not for any reason in particular, he doesn't change his phone all that often, first the live with walkman and currently the Xperia M, he is looking for a new one, but no phone in his price range of interest yet. | 08:12 |
| ghosalmartin | yeah same with this one :P | 08:12 |
| r0kk3rz | since getting the scorpion_windy, i have to say im impressed, its a rather nice device | 08:13 |
| nh1402 | I moved from Xperia Ray to the Nexus 5 due to the spec to price ratio, something Sony don't really understand. | 08:14 |
| ghosalmartin | i got a nexus 5 cause of sfos :P | 08:14 |
| r0kk3rz | well if all you care about is specs, then sure there are cheaper options | 08:14 |
| nh1402 | specs, kernel source, unlockable bootloader, price, developer support. | 08:15 |
| ghosalmartin | the Jolla is unfortunately slowing down too much for my liking | 08:15 |
| r0kk3rz | ghosalmartin: i dont think they have a choice unfortunately | 08:16 |
| r0kk3rz | finland isnt very big, and when you nearly go bust and not pay your developers, word gets out. | 08:17 |
| r0kk3rz | and then nobody wants to work for you | 08:17 |
| nh1402 | currently I would like dual front facing stereo speakers, pressure sensitive touchscreen, (preferably self capacitive, as I would like to do some experimenting to see if I can replicate M$ pre-touch prediction), and a good battery to phone size ratio | 08:17 |
| nh1402 | they're getting back on their feet now though, Intex, Mi-fone, Turing (if that's a thing), on going talks with Fairphone, Puzzlephone (which has now been delayed till next year) | 08:19 |
| ghosalmartin | r0kk3rz: i guess :P hopefully things pick up | 08:20 |
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| nh1402 | a fingerprint sensor, NFC, and maybe an IR camera if that becomes a thing although iris recognition can be done with a normal camera anyway, during the day of course. | 08:21 |
| ghosalmartin | i just want a nexus 5x with sailfish and working fingerprint sensor :P: | 08:22 |
| r0kk3rz | ghosalmartin: yeah, the finance situation is looking ok, and maybe next year some of the bad air will clear | 08:22 |
| nh1402 | well I would like to do some development experimentation with said specifications, some/all of which can then be done for Sailfish also. | 08:23 |
| nh1402 | I wonder what Jolla are going to announce at MWC next year | 08:24 |
| ghosalmartin | maybe partnerships with a few more phone providers | 08:25 |
| ghosalmartin | supposedly intex sold over 20k phones | 08:25 |
| ghosalmartin | need to pick up some critical mass | 08:26 |
| nh1402 | ghosalmartin: well India is a very densely populated country | 08:26 |
| nh1402 | which is why Samsung, Google and Apple are trying to make a name for themselves there too | 08:27 |
| r0kk3rz | ghosalmartin: over? where did you see that? | 08:28 |
| ghosalmartin | r0kk3rz: i cant remember now :P ill take a quick look | 08:29 |
| r0kk3rz | either way, partnerships is all well and good. but until they fully refund tablet backers theres still the smell of death around them | 08:29 |
| ghosalmartin | i really wanted a tablet as well :( | 08:32 |
| NeKit | ghosalmartin, test_egl_configs worked on MTK-AOSP 6.0 | 08:34 |
| NeKit | didn't patch libs for testing Qt yet | 08:34 |
| ghosalmartin | NeKit: does normal test_egl work? | 08:35 |
| ghosalmartin | and test_hwcomposer? | 08:35 |
| NeKit | let's see, but I doubt they will | 08:38 |
| r0kk3rz | ghosalmartin: same, thats why im glad i got sailfish working on the sony, best of both worlds | 08:41 |
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| nh1402 | r0kk3rz: is that part of the mainlining project? | 08:48 |
| ghosalmartin | NeKit: am on edge now :P | 08:49 |
| nh1402 | ghosalmartin: the browser? | 08:50 |
| r0kk3rz | nh1402: yeah it is | 08:50 |
| ghosalmartin | nh1402: no i mean am waiting excitedly on the result of test_hwcomposer on mtk :P | 08:50 |
| nh1402 | ghosalmartin: what's this for aarch64 AOSP 6 on MTK device, to get screen working? | 08:51 |
| ghosalmartin | nh1402: yep | 08:51 |
| ghosalmartin | well unsure about aarch64 | 08:51 |
| nh1402 | which device is that? | 08:51 |
| ghosalmartin | NeKit: ^^ | 08:51 |
| NeKit | aarch64, since 32-bit hwcomposer lib is broken | 08:52 |
| NeKit | xiaomi hermes - Redmi Note 2 | 08:52 |
| ghosalmartin | NeKit: did it work? | 08:52 |
| NeKit | can't test yet, since missing non-charging USB cable | 08:52 |
| ghosalmartin | non-charging usb? | 08:52 |
| NeKit | I mean, the cable currently with me works just for charging (probably missing data pins) | 08:53 |
| ghosalmartin | NeKit: ahh :( where are you, ill ride over :P | 08:53 |
| ghosalmartin | it may take a while | 08:53 |
| NeKit | Russia, Saransk | 08:53 |
| ghosalmartin | hmmm, i may need to get a ferry | 08:53 |
| NeKit | no large river here :) | 08:54 |
| ghosalmartin | there is in the uk | 08:54 |
| ghosalmartin | Infinix Zero 3 | 08:56 |
| ghosalmartin | whatd you guys think of that | 08:56 |
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| NeKit | Helio X10? | 08:58 |
| NeKit | I think you'd better get X20 now | 08:58 |
| ghosalmartin | are these octocore phones any good | 08:59 |
| NeKit | did they release kernel source though? | 08:59 |
| ghosalmartin | I think the infinix has an aosp port | 08:59 |
| nh1402 | ghosalmartin: they spelt Colour wrong, so I don't think the phone would be any good, although it looks alright | 09:00 |
| NeKit | AOSP port doesn't mean it has kernel sources | 09:01 |
| ghosalmartin | I think its a community effort | 09:02 |
| NeKit | I mean, you can port AOSP and even CM with stock kernel binary | 09:03 |
| NeKit | but SFOS has systemd | 09:03 |
| ghosalmartin | ahhh | 09:03 |
| ghosalmartin | no kernel sources posted :( | 09:04 |
| r0kk3rz | you can still cuteboot it | 09:04 |
| ghosalmartin | cuteboot? | 09:07 |
| r0kk3rz | a thing that Stskeeps came up with, which is kinda similar to what fxos was in a way | 09:08 |
| NeKit | ghosalmartin, http://ulefone.com/products/metal/features.html | 09:09 |
| NeKit | this has kernel source and MTK tree released | 09:09 |
| NeKit | and there are some other select phones with this | 09:09 |
| NeKit | Elephone P9000 | 09:12 |
| ghosalmartin | with a cool name like that i cant resist :P | 09:12 |
| nh1402 | r0kk3rz: how is cuteboot different to developing an Android QT app? | 09:13 |
| NeKit | nh1402, works on lower level, I think | 09:13 |
| NeKit | doesn't involve Android Java runtime | 09:13 |
| NeKit | Oukitel K10000 if you want something heavy with large battery | 09:21 |
| NeKit | but specs are far from great | 09:22 |
| ghosalmartin | NeKit: am interested by that phone :P | 09:26 |
| ghosalmartin | http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_411512.html?wid=11 | 09:27 |
| ghosalmartin | thats dirt cheap as well | 09:27 |
| ghosalmartin | ah 720p screen | 09:28 |
| nh1402 | ghosalmartin: what about the Vernee Mars | 09:33 |
| ghosalmartin | too expensive | 09:34 |
| nh1402 | ghosalmartin: Xperia XA? | 09:34 |
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| ghosalmartin | more expensive and even less ram | 09:35 |
| ghosalmartin | and pink...I think :P | 09:35 |
| ghosalmartin | unless gsm arena is being odd | 09:35 |
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| nh1402 | ghosalmartin: Gionee S6 Pro? | 09:39 |
| ghosalmartin | nah am going to hold out and make the bullhead work | 09:40 |
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| nh1402 | ghosalmartin: you could always start your own phone company and then be a licensee. | 10:10 |
| ghosalmartin | nh1402: seems like wayy too much effort :P | 10:15 |
| ghosalmartin | and plus who would buy it | 10:15 |
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| r0kk3rz | nh1402: great idea, do you have a spare billion dollars? | 10:16 |
| nh1402 | r0kk3rz: well I work in pounds, and almost, and by almost I mean not even close | 10:17 |
| ghosalmartin | if i had a spare billion dollars id just bank roll jolla for a few years | 10:19 |
| ghosalmartin | hire someone to fix libhybris :P | 10:19 |
| r0kk3rz | sure canonical has someone on the case | 10:19 |
| r0kk3rz | *surely | 10:19 |
| ghosalmartin | r0kk3rz: think they use mtk chipsets so not too fussed about it | 10:20 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i guess | 10:20 |
| r0kk3rz | you can always tweet spam shuttleworth about it though :P | 10:21 |
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| ghosalmartin | r0kk3rz: i can but he might have no idea what libhybris is :P | 10:22 |
| r0kk3rz | im sure he does | 10:22 |
| ghosalmartin | time to setup a spam bot then haha | 10:23 |
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| TheKit | ghosalmartin, test_hwcomposer doesn't crash, but displays nothing | 10:27 |
| ghosalmartin | TheKit: i had this issue at one point, did you boot in charger mode? | 10:27 |
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| TheKit | no, Android chroot | 10:27 |
| ghosalmartin | TheKit: hmm fair enough | 10:28 |
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| ghosalmartin | my pretty valgrind https://dpaste.de/O6Xb | 10:38 |
| TheKit | file:///root/minimer/main.qml:1 module "QtQuick" is not installed | 10:39 |
| TheKit | hm, weird | 10:39 |
| TheKit | I have qt5-qtdeclarative-qtquick installed | 10:39 |
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| ghosalmartin | that is very odd | 10:49 |
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| r0kk3rz | Nokius: i think this has newer blobs than TheMuppets repo on github http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/tool/software-binaries-for-aosp-lollipop-android-5-1/ | 11:18 |
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| nh1402 | how's it going foidbgen?, less commonly known as Mister_Magister | 14:55 |
| Mister_Magister | nh1402: i dind't changed nick | 14:55 |
| Mister_Magister | nh1402: but fine thanks :D and you? | 14:57 |
| nh1402 | Mister_Magister: you did, then you changed it back after realising Mister_Magister are latin words and easier to say/type | 14:57 |
| Mister_Magister | i changed but i changed it back because i decided to not change :D | 14:57 |
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| Foidbgen | haha | 14:57 |
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| Mister_Magister | so that nick is outdated :D | 14:58 |
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| saidinesh5 | loll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rykmwn0SMWU . i like the ad. | 17:02 |
| saidinesh5 | especially the part about 3.5mm jack | 17:02 |
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| yacuken | hmm... google event is end. and nothing about andromeda. hog-wash | 17:29 |
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| saidinesh5 | what are the highliights of the event yacuken? | 17:35 |
| r0kk3rz | nothing | 17:36 |
| r0kk3rz | they made a dig at apple for the headphone jack thing | 17:36 |
| r0kk3rz | aside from that, nothing | 17:36 |
| taaem | the new pixel phones but nah | 17:37 |
| yacuken | saidinesh5: google home. pixel phone. google assistant | 17:37 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh... well... | 17:37 |
| saidinesh5 | google home? | 17:37 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh | 17:38 |
| yacuken | device for control your home. and then your mind :D | 17:38 |
| yacuken | and jack joke of course :) | 17:38 |
| saidinesh5 | lol.. yeah i liked that dig at apple tbh. can't go back to the days of no charging while listening to music | 17:39 |
| r0kk3rz | i also think the colour names for the pixel phones are a subtle dig at apple | 17:40 |
| taaem | probably | 17:40 |
| r0kk3rz | 'quite black', 'really blue' and 'very silver' | 17:40 |
| kimmoli | 'almost some colour' | 17:41 |
| yacuken | 'a little bit red' | 17:41 |
| yacuken | 'gold, but no' | 17:41 |
| r0kk3rz | 'possibly green', 'maybe purple', 'definitely red' | 17:41 |
| taaem | you guys should be hired by google for naming then :P | 17:42 |
| kimmoli | but it is not 'baboon red' as jolla C | 17:42 |
| taaem | haha :P | 17:43 |
| yacuken | lol | 17:43 |
| r0kk3rz | taaem: its ok, they can have those rippers for free | 17:44 |
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| r0kk3rz | the init scripts under the root directory, when are they run? | 20:58 |
| r0kk3rz | before systemd? | 20:58 |
| TheKit | r0kk3rz, droid-hal-init service | 21:19 |
| TheKit | by systemd | 21:19 |
| r0kk3rz | ah i see | 21:21 |
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