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| tompp | hello SfietKonstantinW | 07:16 |
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| nh1402 | morning | 07:17 |
| tompp | i have one problem i try run then mersdk for win7 ，but it show 【No virtual machine with the name "MerSDK" found. 】 | 07:24 |
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| r0kk3rz | tompp: you mean the sailfish sdk | 07:57 |
| r0kk3rz | check the vbox network settings | 07:57 |
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| tompp | @rok3rz the network is use nat | 07:59 |
| tompp | and the virutal box 4 | 07:59 |
| r0kk3rz | why so old? vbox5 has been around for a while now | 08:04 |
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| tompp | use vbox4 isn`t right? | 08:25 |
| NeoChapay | Hello, have problem: pattern:jolla-hw-adaptation-rk3288-1-1.noarch requires droid-config-rk3288-sailfish, but this requirement cannot be provided | 08:26 |
| NeoChapay | But package created in droid-local-repo/rk3288/droid-config | 08:27 |
| Nokius | NeoChapay: check HADK it's covered after the mic sectio | 08:39 |
| Nokius | NeoChapay: did you run create pattern? | 08:39 |
| Nokius | if so then I guess you miss a pkg :s | 08:40 |
| NeoChapay | Nokius: https://pastebin.com/CNTfHmA5 yeap | 08:47 |
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| tompp | thanl you <r0kk3rz> mer sdk is runing | 09:12 |
| tompp | thank | 09:12 |
| Nokius | NeoChapay: you know what todo? | 09:14 |
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| r0kk3rz | tompp: what was the problem in the end? | 09:16 |
| Nokius | abranson: Hi, did you find way fix the image problem on the X? | 09:17 |
| tompp | update vbox version | 09:17 |
| abranson | Nokius: which problem sorry? | 09:17 |
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| Nokius | abranson: the one that the taken pictures are in the wrong orientating you mention it few weeks back ( maybe around begging of the month) | 09:18 |
| abranson | Ah yes, I'm pretty sure that's caused by old blobs, but haven't had a chance to test it yet. v9 is the latest I think. | 09:21 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson: poke sledges about releasing the sony aosp hybris tree, hes ignoring me :) | 09:21 |
| NeoChapay | Nokius: no idea :) | 09:22 |
| Nokius | r0kk3rz: me too :'( | 09:22 |
| r0kk3rz | Nokius: i think he doesnt love us anymore | 09:22 |
| Nokius | r0kk3rz: impossible | 09:22 |
| Nokius | haha | 09:22 |
| abranson | r0kk3rz, Nokius: No way! He loves you all dearly ;D | 09:23 |
| abranson | it sounds like a tricky request though. has there been a full cooperative adaptation yet? could get very messy. | 09:23 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson: it is? surely the xperia x stuff must be built on something | 09:24 |
| r0kk3rz | its just a patched aosp tree since we're too lazy to do it ourselves and it seems wasteful when one already exists | 09:25 |
| abranson | yeah, but there has always been the hw team doing the jolla adaptations, which aren't generally public because omg legal, then the community ones which are clear of any NDA nonsense. | 09:25 |
| abranson | doing one with both sides together is possible, but would be tricky to sort out | 09:25 |
| abranson | though as always I'll point out that I don't really know what I'm talking about, just guessing | 09:26 |
| * Nokius no preshure from my side on it but if we could find a solution it would be cool | 09:26 | |
| r0kk3rz | you can keep the adaptation to yourself, we just need an aosp6 version of https://github.com/mer-hybris/android/tree/hybris-aosp-5.1.0_r5 | 09:26 |
| Nokius | like Jolla provides via repos some nasty NDA pkg's :) | 09:27 |
| abranson | yeah see told you - no idea what I'm talking about ;) | 09:27 |
| abranson | thought it had to be sony specific | 09:27 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson: it helps if it matches the specific versions for the sony aosp builds yes | 09:28 |
| r0kk3rz | but its all not sony stuff, its aosp stuff so should be open | 09:28 |
| sledges | !seen sledges | 09:30 |
| merbot | sledges: sledges was last seen in #sailfishos-porters 6 days, 21 hours, 42 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <sledges> sorry folks, long backlog, be patient ;) | 09:30 |
| Nokius | \o/ sledges | 09:30 |
| r0kk3rz | sledges: poke | 09:33 |
| sledges | r0kk3rz's patience amounts to 3mins ;p | 09:34 |
| r0kk3rz | sledges: if theres some reason you cant talk about it, then smile and nod :) | 09:34 |
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| sledges | r0kk3rz: there is an ugly hack in sony aosp hybris tree, and also lack of time to polish everything and push out, but i'll have more capacity after l10n round finishes | 09:36 |
| Nokius | :) | 09:37 |
| r0kk3rz | sledges: "its not ready" see how hard was that? :P | 09:37 |
| sledges | it's ready with ugly hack, but no time ;p | 09:38 |
| sledges | in addition to hybris tree, community doing all adaptation packages (non android, i.e. dhd etc) will result in double work and diversion into two forks, but looks like this will be inevitable | 09:38 |
| r0kk3rz | sledges: we cannot share? :( | 09:39 |
| sledges | we code against devel | 09:39 |
| sledges | it's not impossible, but needs more thought; which further delays the whole pushout | 09:39 |
| r0kk3rz | sledges: understood, although porting fixes between forks should be easy enough | 09:40 |
| sledges | we also do LVM and image flashing... and then can'o'worms when communitising this opens up, in addition to obtaining vendor blobs | 09:41 |
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| sledges | hence more more thought needed | 09:41 |
| r0kk3rz | ah yes you guys get access to EMMA | 09:41 |
| sledges | do we? ;p | 09:42 |
| sledges | no, we use the same blobs from aosp download website | 09:42 |
| r0kk3rz | oh ok | 09:42 |
| sledges | the problem is that every port/device/user (this is not set in stone) needs to download /vendor blobs themselves after agreeing to EULA | 09:42 |
| sledges | i was hoping for an agreed solution on this and other things by now, hence my silence | 09:43 |
| sledges | other sailors negotiating that are busy too ;) | 09:43 |
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| r0kk3rz | sledges: yeah its a bit of a shitty situation, not being able to distribute full images is terrible | 09:43 |
| sledges | but you kept pinging me ;) | 09:43 |
| sledges | if you guys are ready to help and work up an interim solution, that could accelerate things in the meantime | 09:44 |
| r0kk3rz | well, its not that often i get complete silence, a simple 'yes we want to but cant yet' would have sufficed | 09:44 |
| sledges | e.g. create an image without vendor blobs, still make it somewhat bootable, and get users to download blobs | 09:44 |
| Nokius | yes this is still on the table | 09:45 |
| sledges | Nokius was on it earlier | 09:45 |
| sledges | and on the tablet ;))) | 09:45 |
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| sledges | r0kk3rz: we said that answer in mer-meeting | 09:45 |
| Nokius | yeap | 09:45 |
| r0kk3rz | i must have missed that bit | 09:46 |
| sledges | the "cant-yet answer" :) | 09:46 |
| sledges | to anything sony related | 09:47 |
| r0kk3rz | well, that was all 'how will it be delivered', this is development | 09:47 |
| r0kk3rz | but anyway, thanks for responding :) | 09:48 |
| Nokius | sledges: so we could build Sony images maybe soon | 09:48 |
| sledges | so what was the outcome in booting a blob-less image? did it boot but reduced features? | 09:48 |
| sledges | Nokius: ^ | 09:48 |
| Nokius | So I will keep my eyes open for a compact next week maybe there are some good offers hehe | 09:49 |
| Nokius | sledges: I can't boot I have no HW | 09:49 |
| sledges | Nokius: r0kk3rz has ;) | 09:49 |
| Nokius | my VM box is fixed since last weekend | 09:49 |
| Nokius | and I will try to build aosp for r0kk3rz | 09:49 |
| Nokius | I just need time | 09:50 |
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| Nokius | which I don't have atm | 09:51 |
| abranson | so there you go. they're drawing it xD | 09:51 |
| * Nokius why nextwork access on airplanes is so expencive it's place with more or less good seats and you sit there for longer time | 09:52 | |
| sledges | Nokius: you sent me emails pre-mwc, but due to such timing, i couldn't pay 100% attention to them sorry :) what was the outcome then? what are the bits you're missing? | 09:52 |
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| Nokius | atm I miss just HW to boot this image it will not boot on windy which r0kk3rz has :( | 09:53 |
| Nokius | SO i have to buid a new image for him | 09:53 |
| Nokius | then I need to find a way to remove the vendor blobs | 09:53 |
| Nokius | I have some ideas in my head but no idea if it's possible | 09:53 |
| Nokius | last weeks are just busy | 09:54 |
| sledges | Nokius: which hybris tree are you using? | 09:54 |
| r0kk3rz | shouldnt even need hybris tree, if android boots without blobs then it should be ok | 09:54 |
| Nokius | sledges: I talk about AOSP :P | 09:54 |
| Nokius | and I follow Sony's instractions | 09:54 |
| Nokius | r0kk3rz: yes that the point | 09:55 |
| Nokius | but I'm not sure if we can skip the vendor blobs during build | 09:55 |
| Nokius | and we need the sensor blobs for sure | 09:55 |
| r0kk3rz | Nokius: yes that might get nasty... i wonder if we can build against 5.x blobs | 09:56 |
| sledges | Nokius: ok, so you built android image, perfect | 09:56 |
| Nokius | sledges: yes thats the think I mailed :P | 09:56 |
| sledges | and you needed to download those SW BINARIES tarball for aosp build to succeed? | 09:56 |
| Nokius | r0kk3rz: we should go for 6 | 09:57 |
| sledges | and how did those blobs appeared in the image? automagically after building? | 09:57 |
| r0kk3rz | Nokius: Yes. but latest sony android is 5x and includes blobs on the device | 09:57 |
| Nokius | sledges: In the root of your Android code tree, unzip the software binaries file you downloaded in step 4. | 09:58 |
| Nokius | source https://developer.sonymobile.com/open-devices/aosp-build-instructions/how-to-build-aosp-marshmallow-for-unlocked-xperia-devices/ | 09:58 |
| Nokius | so I have to a) find a way to get it build without or b) to find a way to get it remove from the image | 09:59 |
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| hexc0de | hi all | 09:59 |
| Nokius | and c) I have to make sure useres can load the blobs | 09:59 |
| Nokius | the zip is contaning blobs per devcie and platform | 10:00 |
| sledges | Nokius: ok, then you need to simply remove all files from resulting aosp image (system.img) that are in SW BINARY tarball, and see if it still boots. if not, simply instruct our future users to download those blobs themselves (agree on EULA) and make a script for them that will put them in their devices | 10:00 |
| Nokius | :s | 10:00 |
| hexc0de | can anyone help me to fix segfault of hwcomposer plugin? gdb log https://gist.github.com/hexc0de/51f9349c7aa3511f1e815e88cba203f3 | 10:00 |
| Nokius | sledges: correct | 10:00 |
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| Nokius | all i need is remove command and time for testing | 10:00 |
| Nokius | ahah | 10:00 |
| Nokius | so yeah I have to just find time | 10:02 |
| abranson | hexc0de: what's that running on? | 10:03 |
| Nokius | and it would be nice to have HW again so I should hunt X compact next week | 10:03 |
| Nokius | NeoChapay: sorry I missed to reply but as sad try the instructions mention in HADK (public porters one) | 10:04 |
| r0kk3rz | damn licensing shenanigans, the end state is the user has agreed to the EULA and has the binaries... why does it have to be this hard | 10:04 |
| Nokius | it covers this part well and this error is not easylies solivlbe remotely | 10:04 |
| hexc0de | abranson: i'm trying to port Sailfish to Motorola Droid Turbo (codename: quark) for about 2 weaks | 10:05 |
| Nokius | r0kk3rz: to make life tough | 10:05 |
| r0kk3rz | Nokius: alternatively, if we can remove the blobs from the image, why cant we just write a script to reconstruct the image before flashing? | 10:05 |
| r0kk3rz | sledges: ^^ | 10:05 |
| abranson | hexc0de: is it android 6? | 10:06 |
| Nokius | r0kk3rz: yes something like this | 10:06 |
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| hexc0de | abranson: official released 6.0.1? so i use cm-13 sources | 10:06 |
| hexc0de | abranson: official released 6.0.1, so i use cm-13 sources | 10:06 |
| abranson | hexc0de: I have a really similar crash on a 32bit android 6 device, so it's very useful if someone else gets the same on a different one | 10:08 |
| Nokius | r0kk3rz: okay I try to build AOSP for windy to night and share it asap with you | 10:08 |
| r0kk3rz | Nokius: cool :) no rush | 10:08 |
| Nokius | r0kk3rz: luckily we are two so I have some help | 10:08 |
| sledges | r0kk3rz: yes, three options, the one i mentioned, the one you mentioned, and 3rd: if blob-less phone boots with connectivity, download blobs on device in-situ | 10:08 |
| * Nokius why I'm at work now my head it full of ideas I like to test now aahh | 10:09 | |
| Nokius | anyway thanks for chat sledges r0kk3rz | 10:09 |
| Nokius | digging into work issues for now cu later | 10:10 |
| Nokius | sledges: short ping you saw my ping about the startup issue? is it happening on Jolla HW / devel repos too? | 10:11 |
| sledges | Nokius: didn't get to your pings sorry out of time this week | 10:13 |
| sledges | ping some more sailors | 10:13 |
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| akhil_surabhi_ | mal: mic fails because of bluez4 | 10:17 |
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| Nokius | sledges: sorry,I will wait for the next EA | 10:23 |
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| sledges | Nokius: did you report it in TJC? | 10:27 |
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| hexc0de | Does anybody know hwcomposer segfaults right after pring screen info and before init plugin module? | 11:17 |
| elderorb_ | why I'm getting 'Fatal: OnePlus-onyx-armv7hl is an invalid sb2 target' ? | 11:19 |
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| kimmoli | i got a dejavu. case sensitive. something should be just oneplus, not OnePlus | 11:22 |
| kimmoli | or way around | 11:22 |
| elderorb_ | export VENDOR="oneplus" ? | 11:24 |
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| elderorb_ | it didn't help... where can I review available 'sb2 targets' ? | 11:27 |
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| hexc0de | elderorb_: try: sb2-config -l | 11:34 |
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| elderorb_ | it says '/home/ai/.scratchbox2 missing, create some targets with sb2-init!' | 12:03 |
| elderorb_ | what step did I miss ? | 12:03 |
| elderorb_ | from here: https://gist.github.com/kimmoli/90ddf7540222b27fd4f0ca9ec1214d45 | 12:03 |
| kimmoli | "Setup your SDK" | 12:04 |
| kimmoli | according to hadk.pdf | 12:04 |
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| elderorb_ | other possibilities ? | 12:13 |
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| elderorb_ | <kimmoli> according to hadk.pdf of which version ? :) | 12:18 |
| elderorb_ | is onyx 'compatible' with the latest HADK (1.9.9 afaik) ? or should I use older one? | 12:19 |
| kimmoli | it is done with a mix of that, and latest public | 12:24 |
| kimmoli | run the hello world test | 12:25 |
| elderorb_ | i see... probably I don't have the right mix | 12:25 |
| elderorb_ | 1.9.9-based environment is still preparing.. What I have at the moment - is 1.1.2-based environment | 12:27 |
| elderorb_ | does it even make sense to try with 1.1.2 or I should wait until 1.9.9 will complete | 12:27 |
| elderorb_ | (by the way, why does https://sailfishos.org/develop/hadk/ references 1.1.2 ?) | 12:28 |
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| r0kk3rz | 1.9.9 is still in beta | 12:29 |
| elderorb_ | ok.. then 1.1.2 is recommended one, correct ? | 12:30 |
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| r0kk3rz | i would use whatever kimmoli used | 12:30 |
| r0kk3rz | since you are building for onyx | 12:31 |
| elderorb_ | MerSDK MerSDK ai@ubuntu-in-vb:~$ cd $HOME MerSDK MerSDK ai@ubuntu-in-vb:~$ cat > main.c << EOF > #include <stdlib.h> > #include <stdio.h> > int main(void) { > printf("Hello, world!\n"); > return EXIT_SUCCESS; > } > EOF MerSDK MerSDK ai@ubuntu-in-vb:~$ sb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-$PORT_ARCH gcc main.c -o test sb2: Error: Invalid target specified, aborting. | 12:31 |
| kimmoli | i took a look on 1.9.9 for my beta-5 devel builds, so it is heavily based on the public version | 12:31 |
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| kimmoli | echo "$VENDOR-$DEVICE-$PORT_ARCH" | 12:32 |
| kimmoli | and you are in correct place to run it? | 12:33 |
| elderorb_ | MerSDK MerSDK ai@ubuntu-in-vb:~$ echo "$VENDOR-$DEVICE-$PORT_ARCH" OnePlus-onyx-armv7hl | 12:33 |
| kimmoli | said "hadk" ? to set env? | 12:33 |
| elderorb_ | yes | 12:33 |
| elderorb_ | I followed 1.1.2 and https://gist.github.com/kimmoli/90ddf7540222b27fd4f0ca9ec1214d45 pretty close | 12:34 |
| kimmoli | yeah | 12:35 |
| elderorb_ | host OS - is the latest ubuntu if it does matter | 12:35 |
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| kimmoli | shouldnt in this case afaik | 12:37 |
| kimmoli | i have access to my build serv only later this evening | 12:37 |
| elderorb_ | back to your question: 'and you are in correct place to run it?' | 12:38 |
| elderorb_ | I should be inside the 'MerSDK', correct ? | 12:38 |
| kimmoli | yes, not in chroot | 12:38 |
| elderorb_ | hmm...weird | 12:39 |
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| elderorb_ | oh.. got it... in 1.1.2 there is 'SETTING UP SCRATCHBOX2 TARGET' | 12:40 |
| elderorb_ | looks like this step is missing | 12:40 |
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| r0kk3rz | elderorb_: in 1.9.9, page 19, there is a link to the wiki | 12:42 |
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| abranson | hexc0de: if I make any progress on it I'll let you know. I got nothing yet though. | 13:14 |
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| Nokius | sledges: nope just mention on irc I will grep the logs later to night | 13:38 |
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| elderorb_ | <kimmoli>: after configuring scratchbox2 now I'm getting different error: | 14:50 |
| elderorb_ | WARNING: CONFIG_BLK_CGROUP is invalid It is unset Allowed values : y, ! Comment says: systemd (optional): http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/cgroups-vs-cgroups.html error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.P4kGZx (%build) | 14:50 |
| r0kk3rz | elderorb_: use a paste service, and put in the whole output of whatever command you're doing | 14:59 |
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| elderorb_ | https://gist.github.com/ElderOrb/948bffe6d6a8adc964b6d4d0e9a865e3 | 15:02 |
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| elderorb_ | 1.9.9 complains about 'connman not AVAILABLE DBus call failed, falling back to libssu' | 15:25 |
| elderorb_ | on attempt to "sudo ssu ar sdk" | 15:25 |
| elderorb_ | is it ok? | 15:25 |
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| nh1402 | anyone seen this? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Collabora-hwcomposer-HWC-Post | 18:12 |
| nh1402 | not sure if that means anything for us though | 18:13 |
| NotKit | kinda the opposite of our problem | 18:14 |
| ruthenianboy | good evening guys. How much time it will take to compile AOSP image for target? | 18:16 |
| NotKit | you mean Android image? | 18:17 |
| nh1402 | NotKit: if it's the opposite of your problem then its the solution? | 18:17 |
| NotKit | I meant that for Android mobile devices there are HWC API drivers and no DRM-based ones (except Fredreno and some devices that has been mainlined?) | 18:19 |
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| NotKit | while Chrome OS used DRM/mesa stack from the beginning | 18:19 |
| NotKit | SailfishOS can run with MESA/DRM (tried on x86 tablet and QEMU), but this requires some tweaks to be usable | 18:20 |
| nh1402 | so it's of no use since it'll use bionic instead of glibc? | 18:20 |
| NotKit | that project allows Android to use DRM/MESA stack through hwcomposer API | 18:22 |
| NotKit | SailfishOS can just use native MESA instead if the device is supported by it | 18:22 |
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| ruthenianboy | NotKit: yes, android image. I just want to build own base image from newer source then actual existing image | 18:25 |
| NotKit | depending on your hardware and HDD/SDD few hours and more | 18:26 |
| ruthenianboy | NotKit: ok, I see. Looks like I will end with building new computer for compiling. Any tips for CPU? | 18:28 |
| NotKit | hardly | 18:29 |
| NotKit | official docs for building AOSP require at least 16 GB RAM | 18:29 |
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| ruthenianboy | NotKit: ok, thanks anyway :) | 18:30 |
| NotKit | it's possible to build with less though (8 and even 4) when running less compiler processes in parallel, but longer compiling time as result | 18:31 |
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| ulyaoth | hello. this is going to be a question unrelated to sfos but i couldn't think of another place to ask, what must someone do to embark on an os porting journey? | 21:27 |
| ulyaoth | as in, starting from scratch | 21:27 |
| NotKit | too broad question | 21:33 |
| NotKit | probably porting the kernel and making bootloader load it (which SFOS skips due to reusing Linux/Android kernel) | 21:34 |
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| ulyaoth | NotKit: what about old windows mobile devices, i remember there being a program(haret?) that would load a linux kernel while the os was running(?). or something along those lines. | 22:26 |
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