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| abranson | nh1402: about the 6GB RAM question - if we have 64bit kernels running 32bit apps, then that would already be able to use all that RAM, right? | 09:00 |
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| nh1402 | the 32bit apps would only be able to access 3.5GB RAM though wouldn't they? | 09:01 |
| abranson | you'd hope it wouldn't be the same 3.5GB though - it's not on x64 but I don't know for ARM | 09:03 |
| abranson | they'd get a virtual address space that the kernel would put anywhere it likes | 09:03 |
| nh1402 | that was why I brought it up, say you want to use Anbox, sfdroid or a version of alien dalvik, where you're effectively running another OS, you don't want that to be limited to the same 3.5GB RAM that Sailfish would be, if you have more RAM | 09:09 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | why do you run 32 bit apps.on 64 bit env? | 09:21 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | if you get 64 bits id say use them | 09:35 |
| abranson | tortoisedoc_: because that's as far as we've got so far :) | 09:36 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | abrason: you mean you have 64 kernel that cant run 64 bit user space programs? | 09:38 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | abranson ^ | 09:39 |
| * tortoisedoc_ typing from a phone is hard | 09:40 | |
| abranson | i mean we haven't migrated userspace to 64 bit yet | 09:40 |
| tortoisedoc_ | huh | 09:41 |
| tortoisedoc_ | 32 userspace vs 64 bit kernel :[ creeps | 09:42 |
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| abranson | tortoisedoc_: meh, better that 32 bit userspace and no kernel :P | 09:51 |
| tortoisedoc_ | huh | 09:51 |
| tortoisedoc_ | no kernel, no userspace :) | 09:52 |
| abranson | exactly ;) | 09:52 |
| tortoisedoc_ | no userspace, no party! | 10:09 |
| tortoisedoc_ | abranson jokes apart, what is missing from userspace side of things? | 10:10 |
| abranson | just rebuilding everything as aarch64. needs infra, little tweaks etc. we've mostly done the mer side of things here https://build.merproject.org/project/show/mer:core. just got to find the time to do the rest. | 10:11 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm bu aarch64 is already supported(as in ive seen some port activity)? | 10:12 |
| abranson | usually it's just the build scripts that need a bit of massage to deal with the new arch, especially if they're old. very rarely there's code that's not portable. | 10:12 |
| abranson | tortoisedoc_: they'll be using 32bit userspace. sailfish packages are only built for i486 and armv7hl | 10:13 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | ah ok | 10:16 |
| tortoisedoc_ | and also the apps i guess | 10:16 |
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| abranson | yeah, i think once you go 32bit, there's no going back | 11:02 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | 64 ;) | 11:21 |
| locusf | nemo can do 64bit | 11:22 |
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| abranson | locusf: are you building the rest of mer | 11:23 |
| abranson | and sailfish in 64bit? | 11:23 |
| locusf | they're openembedded :p | 11:23 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | locusf huh? | 11:24 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | you mean omp? | 11:24 |
| locusf | built with openembedded | 11:24 |
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| abranson | locusf: is the build project public? can I have a look? | 11:25 |
| locusf | fortunately my desktop is open so I'll push in my changes to meta-nemotablet (soon to be named nemomobile) | 11:25 |
| tortoisedoc_ | locusf : is that mer you build? | 11:27 |
| locusf | https://github.com/locusf/meta-nemotablet | 11:27 |
| locusf | tortoisedoc_: upstream qt with mer middleware | 11:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | cool | 11:28 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | does thus mean nemomobile splits from mer? (ignorance question, no pun intended) | 11:29 |
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| locusf | the only split is with qt | 11:30 |
| locusf | nothing else really changes | 11:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ah ok :) are you using a neqer ver of qt? | 11:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | *never | 11:30 |
| locusf | what ever oe has in recipes | 11:31 |
| locusf | 5.8 now | 11:31 |
| tortoisedoc_ | _b | 11:32 |
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| locusf | master-next has 5.9 | 11:32 |
| locusf | also big thanks to kido for helping out with several issues about openembedded | 11:33 |
| kido | :) | 11:36 |
| kido | we use 5.9 in asteroid | 11:36 |
| Nokius | not bad | 11:37 |
| Nokius | :D | 11:37 |
| locusf | lol | 11:37 |
| locusf | its only a week old commit | 11:37 |
| bshah | and you use qtwayland QPA? or hwcomposer QPA btw? | 11:37 |
| locusf | mesa | 11:37 |
| locusf | with gbm + kms QPA | 11:37 |
| kido | locusf: asteroid now uses qt.io's branch of meta-qt5 | 11:38 |
| bshah | ah hm | 11:38 |
| kido | because I was impatient :) | 11:38 |
| locusf | heheh | 11:38 |
| nh1402 | tortoisedoc_: I'm using a never version of qt | 11:39 |
| nh1402 | i wish it was newer though | 11:39 |
| tortoisedoc_ | qt.io? | 11:40 |
| * tortoisedoc_ google | 11:40 | |
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| kido | http://code.qt.io/cgit/yocto/meta-qt5.git/ | 11:40 |
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| locusf | they have 5.10 lol | 11:42 |
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| locusf | kido: did you upgrade to new oe-core? | 11:43 |
| kido | which one? | 11:44 |
| kido | we use pyro | 11:44 |
| locusf | from morty onwards | 11:44 |
| kido | yeah, I also upgraded it at the same time as meta-qt5 | 11:45 |
| locusf | ok | 11:45 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | wait w0t | 11:50 |
| tortoisedoc_ | qt.io? | 11:50 |
| tortoisedoc_ | official qt? :p | 11:50 |
| * tortoisedoc_ is lost | 11:50 | |
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| ZangetsuZukTeleg | Phone on connecting to charger says | 12:26 |
| ZangetsuZukTeleg | Oops not charging ,try another charger | 12:26 |
| * ZangetsuZukTeleg sent a long message: ZangetsuZukTeleg_2017-06-14_12:28:00.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/BJAhwEfwYxGchTfSMzEvEAfi> | 12:28 | |
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| Mister_Magister | ZangetsuZukTeleg: oh hi :D | 13:19 |
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| Umeaboy | Hi guys and gals! | 13:49 |
| Umeaboy | I just got a hold of a Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge (SM-G925F) that I've both rooted and flashed CM 13 on. I'm wondering........ Since there no official support for zeroltexx in both Cyanogenod and LineageOS for the version 14.1 and newer, how can I build Sailfish OS to install on top of CM 13? | 13:50 |
| Umeaboy | I need working repositories for lineageos 14.1 and this phone doesn't have that. | 13:59 |
| Umeaboy | I have a smaller issue to take care of, but no biggie. | 13:59 |
| Umeaboy | The menu button (I know that Sailfish doesn't use it) doesn't work. | 14:00 |
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| ZangetsuZukTeleg | Reply to Mister_Magister (IRC): | 14:27 |
| ZangetsuZukTeleg | >Mister_Magister (IRC): ZangetsuZukTeleg: oh hi :D | 14:27 |
| ZangetsuZukTeleg | hi:) | 14:27 |
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| NotKit | was sync_fence leak issue fixed? | 14:37 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | NotKit sync_fence? | 16:18 |
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| NotKit | a lot of "sync_fence" descriptors opened by lipstick, so it eventually runs out of open file limit | 17:54 |
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| piggz_ | anyone looking for a Qt job in London? got sent something by a recreuiting firm today, londons not for me, but I can pass it on | 19:42 |
| QuillzToxic666 | Can you port sailfish to a 64bit arm phone | 19:43 |
| QuillzToxic666 | ? | 19:43 |
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| Nokius | QuillzToxic666: yes with 64bit kernel and a 32bit userland | 19:48 |
| Nokius | good evening | 19:48 |
| Nokius | faenil: ^ see piggz comment | 19:48 |
| piggz_ | brb | 19:49 |
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| QuillzToxic666 | Nokius: so follow the standard instructions? | 19:49 |
| Nokius | QuillzToxic666: use the HADK I dm u | 19:50 |
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| locusf | tortoisedoc: ping | 20:49 |
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| _jester_ | quick simple question, why hasnt anyone tried porting to the nexus 6/6p. its not a 64 bit architecture and it does have a lineageos build for it. anything I am missing out on ? | 22:57 |
| _jester_ | or did someone just not find the time or a spare phone to do it ? | 22:58 |
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