Thursday, 2017-09-21

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BoyetoHi, I just read this:
BoyetoI might have the opportunity to get a good price on an Xperia X today04:22
Boyetocan I just buy any random Xperia X, and put Sailfish on it?04:22
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NeKitBoyeto, only single-SIM one for now04:29
BoyetoNeKit: Any single-sim?04:29
Boyetothe one I can buy is the Australia variant04:30
BoyetoTelstra network but unlocked04:30
NeKitif it's f5121, yes04:30
Boyetof5121, thanks04:30
Boyetoreally hope this works out. I haven't been happy with my phone since I moved away from the N904:31
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Boyetook, it's a single-sim F5121, used04:58
Boyetoit was either this, or the Xiaomi robot vac, so I'll go with this04:59
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stephg... morning06:21
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locusfwow the syspart build just DEVOURS ram07:45
locusftakes less than ten seconds to take up from 5% to 99% ram used07:45
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sledgesi wonder how people who build droids get about07:46
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sledgesstephg: ... tough night?07:47
Mister_Magistersledges: o/07:48
* Mister_Magister *coldsweat* deadline is comming *coldsweat*07:49
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saidinesh5locusf: how much ram do you have?07:59
saidinesh5locusf: also make -j<N> affects the ram usage a lot07:59
locusfsaidinesh5: 32GB07:59
saidinesh5on my 6GB machine, i couldnt go more than make -j207:59
locusfI was just -j07:59
locusfso all cores07:59
saidinesh5there you go07:59
stephgsledges: sorta07:59
locusfyeah ..07:59
saidinesh5locusf: having an ssh connection to your machine from a 2nd device is very usefull when linux goes crazy when ram gets filled up08:00
Mister_Magisteri have 12 make doesnt eat more than half with make -j1208:00
stephgreally miffed with gitlab, no matter what I do I can't get repo to sync against it, so can't directly use Manizuca's repos :(08:00
Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: so doubt in your ram theory08:00
saidinesh5then you can simply type killall -9 make and get liinux responsive again08:01
stephg(and not thrilled by the faff of cloning is and then adding a remote to mine only to hack it all back in08:01
saidinesh5Mister_Magister: it obviously depends on what you are building08:01
Mister_Magisteryeah sure08:01
spiiroinreview appreciated:
spiiroin^ ignore power key bursts & normalize behavior in display off08:01
Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: hi btw how is life going08:01
saidinesh5if your program isnt that parallelizable to build, then make -j100 will also spawn just 1 compilation at a time08:01
Mister_Magisterspiiroin: can you help me with my led?08:01
Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: i was actually talking about compiling sfos08:02
saidinesh5you mean hybris-hal?08:02
locusfsaidinesh5: already doing it08:03
Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: yes08:03
saidinesh5never thought someone with 32gb ram would say that08:03
saidinesh5Mister_Magister: with hybris-hal i can go up to -j4 or -j5 on my 6gb machine08:03
locusfI've got my laptop here as just screen08:03
spiiroinMister_Magister: busy again, but can do later today08:03
locusfdesktop is for building stuff08:03
Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: and it doesn't eat much on my pc with j1208:04
saidinesh5the ram you have?08:04
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Mister_Magisterspiiroin: oh nice i'll try to catch you when i get back home08:04
Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: 12GB but half is taken08:04
locusfit could also be my l2arc of zfs08:05
saidinesh5Ahh with 12gb, you can probably go up to 12.. on hybris-hal08:05
locusfhybris-hal is easy08:05
stephgsyspart ftw :D08:05
Mister_Magisterstephg: yeah about syspart gotta buy water cooling :D08:06
stephgMister_Magister: I think you should skip water and go straight to mineral oil bath for cooling :D08:08
Mister_Magisterstephg: naaah  :D08:08
Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: how is my library doing? :D08:10
saidinesh5still in far far away.. so havent done much this week..08:11
saidinesh5will prolly push my current code to github later this weekend..08:11
Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: theeen how is code review doing?08:12
saidinesh5what review?08:13
saidinesh5spiiroin: shouldnt the press_limit have to be updated on both key press and release events?08:14
Mister_Magisteri sent my code to github and asked you if you can look at it08:14
Mister_MagisterGOD I HATE CSS08:14
saidinesh5Ahh i thought i did a half review and told you to clean things up08:14
saidinesh5a lot of old files undeleted in repo and me not knowing what to review.. remember?08:15
nh1402Mister_Magister: the life of a web developer08:15
Mister_Magisternh1402: i wanna do only backend in php08:15
Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: partialy i've built it on obs as you said and removed that files08:16
saidinesh5i stilll see multiple qml files.. ?08:16
saidinesh5main.qml, qml/*08:16
nh1402Mister_Magister: some people hate php08:17
Mister_Magisteri like it08:17
nh1402i've gotten used to it08:17
Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: everything is in src08:17
saidinesh5not your main.qml file..08:17
nh1402but atm I have to touch the macbook and fix the iOS app again08:17
saidinesh5and main.cpp08:18
nh1402which is worse than CSS08:18
Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: ignore them lol08:18
Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: now fixed08:20
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saidinesh5Mister_Magister: read and implement this:
saidinesh5basicaly  reduce the #include<X> in header file using forward delcarations etc..08:29
saidinesh5spiiroin: shouldnt the press_limit have to be updated on both key press and release events?08:29
Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: seems legit08:30
Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: i just need to include purple.h in every file because otherwise qtcreator doesnt give me docs08:30
saidinesh5you include it in .cpp files if need08:30
saidinesh5you barely have any code in .h files, to actually need docs while editing08:31
Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: yeah i'm talking about .c08:32
Mister_Magisterwhen i have include purple in .h i should have docs in .c but i don't08:32
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locusfright .. wth09:13
locusfno more vanilla mer sdk for building images?09:14
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nh1402locusf: what is it replaced with? strawberry mer sdk?09:16
Mister_Magisternh1402: i would like banana one09:16
locusfhar har :D09:17
sledgesvknecht: ghosalmartin: good news everyone, we now have a green light for you to redistribute images, firmware blob that is shipped with /system has permissible licence09:17
sledges*sailfishx images09:17
ghosalmartinsledges, great :D09:17
sledgesas long as you don't ship all other blobs ;p (that's why they need to be downloaded via .zip from sony's software binaries website, as tell ya;)09:18
locusfso did I get this right ..09:20
locusfmic now doesn't have lvm capability outside of jolla repos?09:20
sledgeslocusf: at the moment no09:22
sledgesyou don't want to know where we found mic-loop.patch :)09:22
sledgesbut what's important is that we can finally start patching things to downstream (platform sdk), and then to upstream (mer)09:23
stephgsledges: that's good news09:23
sledgesstephg: let's open floodgates to the xda folk who will read sony blog post soon ;)09:23
sledgesso they can try sfos for free09:23
sledgesand all the impatient ones in community09:23
sledgeshowever, no OTAs..09:23
sledgesbut.. you know how to do OTAs ;)09:24
Mister_Magistersledges: that sfosx is kinda weird licensed09:24
Mister_Magistersledges: because of the blobs? so you don't install android separately?09:25
sledgesMister_Magister: that's why we've been talking about frying our CPUs and RAM an hour ago on here ;) because we rebuild the whole syspart (/system partition)09:26
sledgesdroid-hal is nothing ;)09:26
sledgesyou don't install android separately, you build and install android WITH it (because all android is is mainly /system)09:26
Mister_Magistersledges: i know you do that just, you cannot (now you can) distribute it or make otas because of this syspart?09:26
Mister_Magistersledges: I KNOW09:26
sledgesall other partitions are untouched on the phone (like modem, cache etc)09:27
Mister_Magistersledges: i'm asking if because of this you cant make ota09:27
sledgesMister_Magister: i said "no OTAs" because they are not implemented09:27
sledgesyou can have them09:27
Mister_Magistersledges: ah09:27
sledgesbut it's all in your hands09:27
sledgesjust put sfosx on mer obs and you're done09:28
Mister_Magistersledges: so is there any special licensed case you cannot do?09:28
sledgesghosalmartin already started in his home:09:28
locusffull control, full responsibility ;)09:28
Mister_Magisterlocusf: with great power comes great responsibility :D09:28
sledgesMister_Magister: you can redistribute, you can do OTA, i don't know of any limitations09:28
Mister_Magistersledges: okay nice09:29
ghosalmartinsledges, can I get that promoted to the nemo project? that way anybody that awnts to can09:29
Mister_Magisteri have to touch 2 samsungs, ipad and nokia lumia in work in order to test webpage eeeww09:30
sledgesghosalmartin: is it built from the latest repos? and you'll need to rebase patches on configs09:30
Mister_Magistergotta clean my hands after this09:30
ghosalmartinsledges, config needs updating but other than that09:30
sledgesghosalmartin: so are you saying you want me to add sony:f5121 to mer obs? 8D09:31
ghosalmartinsledges, ermm...not exactly, basically make it so its part of nemo:devel09:32
sledgesghosalmartin: that will involve some copypacs:
sledgesfire away!09:32
ghosalmartinsledges, awesome :D09:33
ghosalmartinsledges, cant I just checkout the project with osc then copy all the packages and push?09:35
sledgesghosalmartin: package by package, just like faq says:)09:35
ghosalmartinsledges, okays, and I take it theres no way to use droid-configs from mer-hybris? I have to fork it and enable community?09:36
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sledgesghosalmartin: and patterns09:37
sledgesthis is the only thing that keeps me awake at night, how to make two flavours of image, but share code for internal official builds09:38
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ghosalmartinsledges, guess just have a community repo in mer-hybris and remember to update both submodules when an update occurs?09:43
locusfthe patch in wiki doesn't even apply to
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sledgeslocusf: 12:23 < sledges> but what's important is that we can finally start patching things to downstream (platform sdk), and then to upstream (mer)09:44
nh1402sledges: can I get mint choc-chip image, double scoop09:44
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sledgesghosalmartin: we'd also need to remember to update .spec itself upon a change09:47
sledgesit doesn't happen often, but i'm sure it would get forgotten when it does happen:))09:47
sledges )/win 13009:48
locusfsledges: are lvm2 atruncate pigz going to be included to mer repos too?09:49
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sledgeslocusf: if we work together, we can get them there09:51
sledgesin #mer channel09:51
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stephgall should be trivial09:53
stephginfact I'd be surprised that lvm2 isn't already there?09:54
stephg(haven't looked tho)09:54
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spiiroinsaidinesh5: the minimum delay we want to see is from release to the next press -> update at release & check at press down is enough10:05
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saidinesh5spiiroin: but there is a comment that says:                     /* Some devices report both power key press and release,  already when the physical button is pressed down. Other devices wait for physical release before reporting key release. And in some devices it depends  on whether the device is suspended or not."10:07
saidinesh5so what about that case?10:07
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spiiroinsaidinesh5: ah, ok.. that is different thing - hence two commits. the events are always emitted in press-release-press-release-... fashion, but ...10:12
spiiroinsome devices to: physical press -> press event + release event; physical release -> nop10:12
spiiroinothers do: physical press -> press event; physical release -> release event10:13
spiiroinand some alternate between those two depending on whether the power key wakes the device from suspend or not10:13
spiiroinand the "key release simulation" just makes all device behave like the: physical press -> press + release event10:14
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spiirointhe inter-press delay handling needs to deal with actual events only, so the simulated one does not need to be take into account in that10:15
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r0kk3rzspiiroin: question, does low power mode let the cpu sleep?10:15
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spiiroinr0kk3rz: "low power mode" with quotes... it is just regular on state with dimmer display while claiming the display to be off i.e. hw is not getting any pm benefits apart from display brightness being bit lower10:17
ghosalmartinsledges, does the X need bluez4 configs?10:17
spiiroinr0kk3rz: ... the sw logic is just inherited & adapted from n9 that had an actual lpm10:18
sledgesghosalmartin: why 'd you ask?10:18
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r0kk3rzspiiroin: yeah ok, asking for kido  who is developing port for watch with amoled screen10:19
r0kk3rzbut if cpu remains active, then battery will suffer anyway10:20
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: cpus? battery optimization?10:20
ghosalmartinsledges, mic was complaining about them being in the patterns, i removed it and the droid-configs-sailfish from the pattern and it built10:20
spiiroinr0kk3rz: real lpm would need some reworking in mce & compositor & support for it in hw & hw specific compositor plugin (or whatever it was called)10:22
malsledges: about the xperia x sharing and OTA, you said the blobs cannot be included so that basically limits the OTA capabilities since those have to flashed outside of OTA update10:22
ghosalmartinsledges, also with the issue of the vendor binaries, can we redistribute them or will users still have to download them themselves10:22
sledgesghosalmartin: why'd no-one else had that problem, hmm that's not ok10:22
ghosalmartinsledges, it could just be my patterns, i copied them from bullhead a while back10:23
sledgesmal: you flash the image initially, with blobs ( does that), then they stay in separate partition, OTAs don't affect them10:23
r0kk3rzspiiroin: good to know, thanks10:23
sledgesghosalmartin: 12:18 < sledges> as long as you don't ship all other blobs ;p (that's why they need to be downloaded via .zip from sony's software binaries website, as tell ya;)10:23
ghosalmartinlbt, can I have a f5121 folder on :P10:23
ghosalmartinsledges, ah awesome means I dont need to rebuild10:23
ghosalmartinlbt: please :)10:24
sledgesghosalmartin: you have git diff ;)10:24
ghosalmartinsledges, I meant the droid-system since its on a different machine right now that I cant access :P10:25
sledgesghosalmartin: i meant about bullhead patterns:)10:25
malsledges: but if you update the system stuff won't that sometimes require new blobs?10:26
ghosalmartinsledges, ah well it did start doing it randomly so am guessing an update of droid-configs set it off10:26
ghosalmartinBut its not an issue since bluez4 is built but not used and droid-configs-sailfish isnt built at all10:26
sledgesmal: a reflash of only that partition will be needed10:27
sledgesmal: blobs are now settled for android 610:27
malghosalmartin: wasn't it tbr who maintains that10:27
ghosalmartinmal: ah yeah am getting mixed up :P10:27
ghosalmartintoo much red bull this morning10:27
sledgesred bullhead?10:27
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ghosalmartinHakusho, Hello :)10:28
HakushoI had to come in from phone because I failed the verification captcha on PC and it says to try later :D10:29
ghosalmartinsledges, now that would be a porting achievement :P10:29
ghosalmartin that seems perfect10:30
sledgesangry GNU10:30
Hakushosledges: hey10:30
ghosalmartinHakusho, why not just use a client?10:30
Hakushosledges: so I've put @Jolla configuration can in .ks, then commented out patterns-sailfish-consumer-generpatterns-sailfish-consumer-generic10:32
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Mister_Magistersledges: did you send me message or not yet (because i forgot how to check it)10:32
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sledgesHakusho: yes10:33
HakushoThen I've did rpm/dhd/helpers/  and And then I've started to build with mic, but it seems to be stuck since few mins already at this:10:33
sledgesMister_Magister: /msg memoserv help10:33
Hakushoadd-oneshot: /etc/oneshot.d/0/statefs-03-register-timed - job saved OK10:34
HakushoAnd before that line there is "Register timed"10:34
HakushoIt seems to be stuck10:34
Mister_Magistersledges:  so you didn't10:34
sledgesMister_Magister: lots of things happening as you can see10:35
Hakushoghosalmartin:  I wanna use a client, on both PC and phone, but I don't know how to set it up xD it is asking for some things which I have no idea what I'm supposed to write10:35
Mister_Magistersledges: yeah no problem i think i'll just start them10:35
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sledgesMister_Magister: ok10:37
Mister_Magistersledges: well they look okay right?10:37
sledgesi haven't looked10:38
Mister_Magistersledges: yeah? you wrote "graphics are cool" so i supporse you did look :D10:39
sledgesyes, at graphics10:39
Mister_Magisterthat's enaugh lol :D10:39
sailfishmodsvknecht: thanks for the new image from yesterday :)10:42
sledgesHakusho: you need to switch to, it's a known hang in 2.1.0, i just grepped channel logs from the link from the topic ;)10:48
Hakushosledges: umm... So I need to start from scratch?10:54
sledgesHakusho: just change RELEASE and re-run mic10:54
Hakushosledges: Oh, that's all? I don't need to get newer SDK or something?10:56
sledgesHakusho: nope10:57
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Hakushosledges: in the guide says this though: "Ensure you pick the same release as your target was in Setting up Scratchbox2 Target"11:00
sledgesHakusho: but in most cases it's fine11:00
sledgesbeen tested here11:00
sledgesno API breakages11:00
sledgesgood you ask ;)11:01
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Hakushosledges: I see. Well, I've just started mic now. I'll see how it goes11:02
HakushoAh, already error11:03
Hakusho"Valid metadata not found at specified URL"; " unknown error reading from
stephgprocess patterns?11:04
stephgdo you need to do that after changing RELEASE?11:04
Hakushosledges: I've already ran process_patterns11:06
sledgesHakusho: it's jolla, not Jolla11:06
Hakushosledges: phone auto correct ..11:07
sledgesthis address is reachable so that's good for starters:
Mister_Magistercase sensitive ftw11:08
Hakushosledges: I haven't touched any URL. When I've typed the link on phone, it made "J" instead "j" bcoz the auto correction. I haven't noticed that when I've wrote it11:09
sledgesHakusho: doublecheck your .ks file, and retry mic11:13
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Hakushosledges: I've regenerated the .ks, still same11:24
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sledgesi just tried myself, mic refreshes that repo just fine11:30
sledgesHakusho: can you paste your KS pls?11:30
sledges(i know, hard by phone, maybe photo? :D)11:30
Hakushosledges: lemme try to open IRC from PC, maybe I can get in now :S11:31
HakushoStill can't get in from PC...11:34
Hakushosledges: perhaps I need to set up scratchbox2 target again?11:35
sledgesHakusho: nothing to do with that, it will set up as 2.1.0 again anyway (unless you dig deeper)11:36
Hakushosledges: the only thing which I've changed in .ks is that I've put @Jolla Configuration can. Nothing more11:36
HakushoAnd even regenerated it, yet still same error11:36
sledgesHakusho: do this please:11:38
sledgessb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-$PORT_ARCH -m sdk-install -R11:38
sledgesssu ar jolla211
sledgeszypper ref jolla21111:38
sledges(all inside target from the 1st command)11:38
TopiasTelegram[mHere is a noob trying to build Xperia X image 😆11:40
sledgeshey TopiasTelegram[m welcome :)11:40
TopiasTelegram[mbut can't even get inside sfossdk because it gets stuck in Mounting system directories...11:41
sledgesTopiasTelegram[m: what's your build host?11:41
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sledgesTopiasTelegram[m: i would inspect your mount flags of existing partitions on build host11:42
TopiasTelegram[mI checked that first and didn't find nosuid at least11:43
sledgesTopiasTelegram[m: are you installing everything on your home, that is a separately mounted partition?11:43
TopiasTelegram[myes, I got it on home instead of /srv11:44
TopiasTelegram[myes it is separately mounted11:44
sledgeswhat mount options has it got? and also /11:44
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Manizucastephg, for me it works with https but no ssh11:45
TopiasTelegram[mrw,relatime,errors=remount-ro I take it these are the mount options11:46
TopiasTelegram[mfor both11:46
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mallbt: hi, could we either rename or make a copy of sailfish target with the the version, it seems the release was cancelled but porters could still make their based builds on OBS easily11:48
vknechtsledges, hello, and good news, thanks :-)11:49
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ghosalmartinstephg, did you ever fix your issues with the sfos image being stuck on sony screen? sledges: any ideas? latest build11:53
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sledgesghosalmartin: logs pls11:56
ghosalmartinsledges, of mic?11:57
Manizucasledges, the tethering workaround shouldnt say /vendor/firmware/fw_bcmdhd_apsta.bin?11:57
sledgesghosalmartin: yep11:58
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Hakusho_could get in from other browser on PC...11:59
Hakusho_eh my name has a "_" because im in on phone too11:59
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TopiasTelegram[mseems like the home partition was indeed causing the problems... works fine in root11:59
sledgesManizuca: why not?11:59
ghosalmartinthere could be plenty of reasons tbh, ive been using the same ks file so that might need updating12:00
Manizucasledges, shouldnt say /system/etc/firmware/fw_bcmdhd_apsta.bin? **12:00
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sledgesManizuca: you're right, just checked that now too, fixing12:01
sledgesit was from previous blobs v12:01
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Hakusho_sledges: i think mic is fine now after ive ran the command youve told me12:03
edgar2i just realized that instead of the xperia x F5121 i bought the xperia x perfomance F8131. is there anything i can do with the F8131 in terms of building/installing a sailfishos image on it?12:03
Hakusho_yep, mic is fine now. Its at "Downloading packages...". Im gonna eat now, brb12:03
edgar2i don't have anything as such of value on the F8131, so it would not have to work perfectly (not that i expect it to do so on the F5121 either)12:04
ghosalmartinsledges, i also tried a factory reset with no luck12:05
sledgesTopiasTelegram[m: :) i was about to ask you to debug by adding a line "set -x" to $PLATFORM_SDK_ROOT/sdks/sfossdk/mer-sdk-chroot and then running `sfossdk` again12:05
sledgesHakusho_: probably was network issue12:06
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sledgesghosalmartin: how many packages went into mic?12:07
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ghosalmartinsledges, 69412:20
ghosalmartini dropped the droid-config-sailfish and droid-config-bluez4 packages12:20
sledgesghosalmartin: droid-config-sailfish looks needed12:21
sledgesghosalmartin: can you just patch the way wiki patches configs?:)12:21
sledgesghosalmartin: or if you want to get to the bottom of status quo, you'll need to extract journal from recovery12:21
ghosalmartinsledges, wiki patches configs?12:22
sledgesadds community12:22
sledgesand patterns12:22
sledgesis what i was on about what keeps me awake;)12:22
sledges(also check maybe you can ssh into xperia already on sony's screen, i added some patterns to facilitate that, but might not work all the time)12:22
ghosalmartinsledges, wont password be random?12:22
sledgesghosalmartin: you can set in recovery:D12:23
ghosalmartinsledges, what wiki were you on about btw?12:26
sledgesfrom the blog post12:26
ghosalmartinsledges, ill take a look12:27
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ghosalmartinsledges, does the port always run 2 cores? or just when asleep?12:35
ghosalmartinah no allocation of two cores for foreground apps12:35
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Hakusho_sledges: now it seems that is stuck at "libhybris-tests.armv7hl 0.0.0-1"12:43
sledgesHakusho_: full log line?12:43
vknechthow does one "update dhd submodule" ? looking at getting updated geoclue-providers-hybris12:43
Hakusho_sledges: there are many lines before with the packages names. Before those, there are those:12:44
Hakusho_Info: Installing: rfkill               ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [709/709]12:44
Hakusho_Verbose: tzdata.noarch 2017b-1.8.112:44
Hakusho_setup.noarch 2.8.56-1.2.112:44
Hakusho_filesystem.noarch 3.1-1.1.112:44
Hakusho_basesystem.noarch 8.1-1.1.112:44
Hakusho_those are before all that lines12:45
Hakusho_and last line is "libhybris-tests.armv7hl 0.0.0-1" at which seems to be stuck12:45
Hakusho_previous line before that is: "gstreamer1.0-droid.armv7hl 1.0.0-1"12:45
sledgesHakusho_: remove sailfish-porters-tools from patterns, rebuild configs, process patterns, and retry mic12:48
Hakusho_sledges: okay... I added that back since im building now, but if you say so, then ill do it12:49
sledgesHakusho_: you added 3 configs back, but one of them needs to go now to see if works12:50
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T4No chat_id set! Add me to a Telegram group and say hi so I can find your group's chat_id!12:55
T4@M1kaela_freenode_relaybot was added by: @kskarthik12:56
T4<@toxip> test12:57
T4<@kskarthik> 👻12:57
ghosalmartinsledges, well your ssh on boot works, i just didnt set the password well :P12:57
T4@tchncs_bot was removed by: @kskarthik12:58
T4<@toxip> ok now is better12:59
T4<@toxip> sorry for the hassle12:59
T4<@toxip> this is better for IRC side I think12:59
sledgesghosalmartin: woo!13:00
sledgestoxip, now i can't tab complete your nick :p otherwise makes no difference13:01
ghosalmartinsledges, i take it i boot into recovery, open up the cmdline and then chroot into rootfs?13:01
ghosalmartinthen I can passwd nemo?13:01
sledgesghosalmartin: yep13:02
T4<@toxip> sledges: that's a shame but it looked horrible on this side with the TopiasTelegram[m13:04
T4<@toxip> this is of course still an imperfect solution13:04
T4<@toxip> but if you want to tag telegram users, type @username and they get pinged in telegram13:04
T4<@toxip> if this causes a lot of trouble for you IRC guys, we can take it down if it annoys you... Just forward your complaints to me, @kskarthik or @M1kaela13:06
sledges@toxip, ok didn't know that :)13:09
ghosalmartinsledges, yeah it didnt work :P13:09
sledgesghosalmartin: details;)13:09
Hakusho_sledges: stuck at same thing, after ive removed sailfish-porters-tools13:15
sledgesHakusho_: libhybris-tools ?13:16
Hakusho_sledges: libhybris-tests.armv7hl 0.0.0-113:17
sledgesyes that13:17
sledgesHakusho_: have you rebuilt configs and regenerated patterns? i think libhybris-tests is pulled in even without sailfish-porters-tools :/13:17
sledgesor not ;)13:18
Hakusho_sledges: yes, ive did that13:18
sledgesHakusho_: do you see any of these packages being installed too?
Hakusho_sledges: yesterday, when i was building and had had @jolla-hw-adaptation-can in .ks it didnt got stuck anywhere, but failed to create the zip and got only .tar.bz213:19
sledgesHakusho_: i know13:20
sledgesthis is the reason you didn't have .zip13:20
Hakusho_zypper.armv7hl 1.8.3-1.2.113:20
Hakusho_vim-enhanced.armv7hl 7.3.629-1.2.113:20
sledgesHakusho_: means sailfish-porters-tools is still there13:21
sledgesplease doublecheck all steps13:21
sledgesconfigs, rebuild, process patterns13:21
sledgesand even inside ks, hopefully sailfish-porters-tools is not there either13:21
Hakusho_sledges: it isnt in .ks13:22
ghosalmartinsledges, i get this Sep 21 15:29:54 Sailfish lipstick[811]: [C] unknown:0 - Failed to create display (No such file or directory)13:22
Hakusho_sledges: this is what ive did:13:23
Hakusho_rpm/dhd/helpers/ --configs13:23
T4@salkos73 was added by: @salkos7313:23
Hakusho_and then mic13:23
sledgesHakusho_: show how you changed configs13:23
sledgesghosalmartin: droid-config-sailfish contains all the dconf/db/ bits13:25
ghosalmartinsledges, hmm how come obs didnt build it then?
Hakusho_sledges: what do you mean?13:27
sledgesghosalmartin: it did
sledgesHakusho_: where you removed sailfish-porters-tools13:27
Hakusho_sledges: in jolla-configuration-can.yaml. Ive removed the "-" and added a "#" and a spacebar13:28
sledgesHakusho_: can you paste that?13:29
ghosalmartinsledges, am being so slow today :P13:29
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sledgesHakusho_: it's enabled13:30
sledgesHakusho_: sailfish-porters-tools13:31
sledgesnot patterns-sailfish-consumer-generic13:31
sledges(that one also needs to be disabled)13:31
Hakusho_sledges: oh lol, it seems that ive misread when youve wrote it o.O13:31
* sledges goes to have breakfast $DEVICE13:32
Hakusho_sledges: sailfish-porter-tools is related to jolla store too or ?13:33
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ghosalmartinsledges, were does the community-adaption package come from?13:43
ghosalmartinmal: on obs can you point it to a .spec file?13:45
malghosalmartin: what do you mean?13:47
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ghosalmartinmal: the community-adaptation repo has several spec files in it, and on obs there only needs to be one :P13:47
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malghosalmartin: on OBS package name determines which .spec is used in case there are several .spec files13:47
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ghosalmartinmal: ah awesome13:48
malghosalmartin: like here
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malghosalmartin: vs this
sledgesghosalmartin: and the common repo is already in the .ks13:49
ghosalmartinso i don't need to build it myself. hmmm13:49
sledgesexactly the point, reduce maintenance burden per device13:49
ghosalmartinthen am back to out of clues13:49
sledgesghosalmartin: paste?13:50
* sledges goes afk for a bit13:50
malghosalmartin: community-adaptation has to be built yourself only during local builds13:50
ghosalmartinmal: building on obs so?13:50
ghosalmartinah should be fine then13:50
malghosalmartin: as you can see the OBS repos have it, you just need to add the correct common repo as dependency on OBS13:51
sledgesghosalmartin: paste says you have bluez problem13:51
ghosalmartinmal: its already there unfortunately :/13:51
sledgesghosalmartin: use original patterns from wiki13:51
malghosalmartin: like here I have <path project="nemo:devel:hw:common" repository="sailfish_latest_armv7hl"/>13:52
sledgesghosalmartin: more info on that old error is in hot-hadk13:52
ghosalmartinmal: already have that thankfully, i copied your repo a while back :P13:52
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malghosalmartin: why does droid-config-f5121 fail to install, did you use the usual debug method?13:55
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ghosalmartinmal: yep, it can't "find" droid-config-bluez or droid-config-sailfish13:56
ghosalmartinsledges, which wiki is this? this?
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malghosalmartin: you have bluez4 here but pattens use bluez5
malghosalmartin: change that to bluez5 also14:01
Hakusho_sledges: now stuck at gstreamer1.0-droid.armv7hl 1.0.0-1...14:04
ghosalmartinmal: not quite sure how thats possible since community adaptation is provided14:05
malghosalmartin: show your .ks14:07
malghosalmartin: maybe you are missing the common repo from .ks?14:07
malghosalmartin: based on the log you  are missing that14:07
ghosalmartinmal: probably14:07
ghosalmartinbut if its in project meta shouldnt it automatically pick it up?14:08
ghosalmartinam guessing needs to be added as a repo?14:08
ghosalmartinmal: that did it, when did that change?14:09
malghosalmartin: .ks generation has nothing to do with obs14:10
malghosalmartin: that been used for months now14:10
ghosalmartinmal: but I managed to build images before without it14:11
ghosalmartinwell either way thanks :)14:11
malghosalmartin: with community-adaptation? local builds? how did you create the .ks back then?14:11
ghosalmartinmal: i got it from the rpm i think, it was only a week ago but i cant remember14:12
malfrom rpm?14:13
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ghosalmartinmal: yeah because I built mw on obs so wasnt sure how I was supposed to generate it14:15
ghosalmartinmal: so what does the meta repository do in obs?14:16
ghosalmartinah I see it defines the targets14:18
sledgesHakusho_: do you have enough disk space/ram?14:20
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sledgesghosalmartin: your .ks should have nemo:devel:common repo as adaptation-community-common14:23
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_svensledges: Thuesday i ask you if its possible to use a bigger font for recovery boot screen because its too small. If its impossible, how about using a picture like a splash screen with this text inside?14:26
sledges_sven: jolla recovery is opensource, i can point to the right places14:26
sledgesghosalmartin: adding repo has never changed
_svenwas just a thought14:28
malsledges: well originally common was mostly used to fix bugs in official releases :) currently it's required14:31
sledgesmal: it's required since those instructions ;)14:31
Hakusho_sledges: 32,2 gb free and my PC has 4 gb ram + 8gb swap. Task manager shows: 2.1gb/3.5 used, 28.8mb/8gb swap14:31
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sledgesHakusho_: what is your host OS?14:32
Hakusho_sledges: Linux mint 17.2 XFCE14:32
sledgesHakusho_: with mic halts for the moment i have nothing else to offer except installing ubuntu server on virtualbox14:33
sledgesHakusho_: or try another build host14:33
Hakusho_sledges: my pc is already slow :S it will be much slower in virtualbox. Also, i dont wanna install any other linux. Ive spent way too much time to install and configure some stuff on the one im using right now + i would need to backup all the stuff i have on linux partition and i dont have enough free space14:35
Hakusho_sledges: do you have any idea where is the script which create the final .zip (which gets ran during mic)?14:36
Hakusho_sledges: i was trying to build again and got stuck at "add-oneshot: /etc/oneshot.d/0/statefs-03-register-timed - job saved OK" again14:43
Hakusho_then pressed CTRL + C and it continued to build o.O14:44
Hakusho_and now i got a .zip14:44
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kimmolimic is known to stop sometimes, and yes, ctrl-Continue15:27
Hakusho_kimmoli: huh, i thought ctrl+c is meant to stop something15:29
kimmoliit stops it stucking15:30
kimmoli(not s*cking)15:30
Hakusho_i wiped system, data, cache and dalvik cache. Then flashed LOS13 and then Sailfish over it, but it doesnt boot. When i reboot and get to the screen with "unlocked bootloader", it reboot again after 2-4 seconds15:30
Hakusho_and ive modified ext4 with f2fs in updater-script because /data partition is f2fs, not ext415:31
Hakusho_atm im backing up my internal storage, and then ill format /data (not wipe) and try again to install it to see if it changes something15:31
sledgesHakusho_: kimmoli: lol yes it's a known thing, it might be waiting for input on some package asking e.g. a Y/n question too15:32
sledgesHakusho_: let me ask you, how did you used to kill the mic before if not Ctrl+C?15:37
sledges(i know it doesn't help with 2.1.1 as it halts "worse", but you built 2.1.0 before with the same 'add-oneshot: /etc/oneshot.d/0/statefs-03-register-timed - job saved OK')15:38
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T4<@ExPLIT> Hi guys. One question: On the Xperia X Community Build i have the repo adaptation-community-common15:38
T4<@ExPLIT> how i can add adaptation-community ?15:38
T4<@ExPLIT> I mean this repo:15:38
sledges@explit: to .ks file? just edit it. inside device? do `sudo ssu ar adaptation-community URL` ; either way, it will have to be done manually15:40
T4<@ExPLIT> @sledges [<sledges> @explit: to .ks …], thanks sledges!15:40
Hakusho_sledges: im not sure, probably ctrl+c too. Sometimes i use ctrl+z since ive seen that it works too. I dont know whats the difference15:40
sledges@explit: please do not reply in IRC bridges ;)15:40
Hakusho_perhaps i didnt notice first time that it was continuing? no idea lol15:40
sledgesHakusho_: ctrl+z suspends, but still leaves the job unkilled15:41
sledgesuse bg or fg commands to resume it15:41
T4<@ExPLIT> And can i set this repository as global repository?15:42
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sledges@explit, unsure what you mean15:49
Hakusho_ive formatted /data (not wiping) this time, still same shit. Phone keeps rebooting15:49
sledgesHakusho_: have you installed .zip?15:49
Hakusho_sledges: wiped system, data, cache and dalvik. Then installed los13, then formatted /data, installed sailfish...15:50
sledgesHakusho_: welcome, this is where the porting actually starts ;)15:50
Hakusho_and ive modified ext4 with f2fs in sailfish updater-script because my /data is f2fs not ext415:50
Hakusho_sledges: yeah, you are right. Unfortunately, i dont have any idea15:50
_svenwhen repeating steps from wiki, there are some git clone commands, the directory is not empty. what do i have to do? earlier i did nothing, this time i changed into the dir and did "git status", and if there is something new i add it using "git add xxx" manually and did a "git checkout". Its correct?15:55
T4<@ExPLIT> found thanks!15:56
Hakusho_i dont even know how to find out why it keeps rebooting xD15:59
sledgesHakusho_: read about bootloops in hadk16:00
Hakusho_sledges: i already did that before i even started to build it16:00
sledges_sven: not quite, instead you need to run `git fetch; git status` then see which branch to merge into your tree16:01
Hakusho_i hremoved androidboot.selinux=permissive and added audit=0 selinux=0 at BOARD_KERNEL_CMDLINE and CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM=y is enabled16:02
sledgesHakusho_: did you take actions written in there? ;)16:02
sledgesHakusho_: now it's ofono time16:02
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malHakusho_: how soon does it reboot?16:03
Hakusho_mal: it reboots in 2-4 seconds after the screen/message with unlocked bootloader appears16:05
malHakusho_: which device?16:05
Hakusho_mal: Huawei Nova16:05
sledgesanother problem may be is that you haven't flashed cm13 to it, but los1316:05
Hakusho_mal: Huawei Nova 116:05
sledgesbecause you are building on cm13 source16:05
sledgeshas to be at least close revision16:06
Hakusho_can i build sailfish with los source?16:06
sledgesyou need to patch it with sailfish patches first16:06
sledgescan you find cm13 for nova? there are mirrors16:07
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Hakusho_sledges: there is a cm13, left by Grarak, but is built for other model CAN-L01 (my model is CAN-L11) with the partition sizes for that model and when i flash it over my model it gets stuck because there isnt enough size. Thats why i had to build it myself and correct the partition sizes and built lineage...16:09
sledgesHakusho_: lineage is just renamed cm, now tell me where did you get device repos from for your local_manifest?16:10
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Hakusho_i havent published the changes regarding kernel cmdline yet16:13
sledgesHakusho_: ok, let's park that for a moment and see if you can do `fastboot boot hybris-recovery.img` instead16:14
Hakusho_sledges: i can, but wont be that the same thing?16:14
sledgesit shouldnt16:14
Hakusho_how does it differs from flashing boot in twrp? ive flashed boot in twrp before without any problems16:15
sledgesthis is recovery16:15
sledgesto get into first stage bootloader16:15
sledgesthat you should be able even if you got different base16:15
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sledgesif not, means something wrong with kernel, that we'll check later16:16
Hakusho_sledges: im 100% sure that it will be the same thing if ill flash it over fastboot, but ill try in few mins. Ill let you know how it goes16:16
sledgesHakusho_: where did you see word flash?16:17
sledgesand it's not hybris-boot.img16:17
Hakusho_sledges: fastboot* sorry, but im used to "flash" :D16:17
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sledgesHakusho_: it won't flash anything, just load into ram for one boot16:18
sledgesthat particular "fastboot boot" command16:18
Hakusho_sledges: ops, ive thought that youve wrote hybris-boot lol16:18
sledgeslong day ;)16:18
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Hakusho_sledges: when i type "fastboot boot hybris-recovery.img" in fastboot, it says "downloading boot.img...", then "OKAY" and then "booting..." and nothing happens16:30
sledgesHakusho_: please read the chapter "Operating Blind on an Existing Device"16:31
sledgesHakusho_: you should celebrate because it hasn't rebooted ;p16:31
sledgesso progress!16:31
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Hakusho_sledges: oh really? lol16:32
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Hakusho_sledges: i read 9.2 Operating Blind on an Existing Device, but i dont really understand. Im supposed to run hybris-boot/init-script?16:36
* _sven reads backlog and has deja vu16:36
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Hakusho_i have to go off now, ill log in on phone later16:49
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_svenwow great :) its done. i have made fire :)17:12
_svensledges: mal: and others thank you so much for your patience and helpfulness :)17:12
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T4@Carmen Fdez was added by: @Carmen Fdez17:16
sledges_sven: congrats, a happy victory!17:18
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r0kk3rz_sven: \o/17:30
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Nokius_sven: \o/17:56
_svenso, next device is a Sony XZ :)17:57
r0kk3rz_sven: good luck18:02
Nokius_sven: you have full Sony park?18:03
* Nokius needs to findout how I cn use a usb mice under Android to enable Dev mode on the broken Z5 18:04
Nokiusor a cheap place to swap the digitizer18:04
_svenonly this two devices from sony (daily driver is meizu pro5 ubuntu edition, samsung z3 (tizen) to play with)18:04
Nokius\o/ more SFOS devices :))18:05
_svenBT doesnt work?18:06
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r0kk3rzNokius: oh... sounds broke18:08
vknechtas stayed in wiki... what I have a doubt about is GPS18:08
vknechtdoesn't get a fix in offline mode, though stated as "active"18:09
Nokiusr0kk3rz: all is fine just the digitizer got somehow broken as the gifter told me18:09
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r0kk3rzNokius: get a new screen? prolly not cheap18:15
Nokiusr0kk3rz: 100 - 160 €18:19
Nokiusr0kk3rz: yes me just lazy walking to a store :P18:23
Nokiusbut the IP fuu is gone18:23
sledgesget another broken Z5 ;)18:24
Nokiussledges: :D18:24
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Nokiussledges: I should find out how this OTG usb think works I got told it worked18:24
minicoehi guys18:24
_svenNokius use uart serial connection18:24
Nokiusso me to stupid or me ....18:24
_svenif i were u, i would give it a try18:25
_svenworks very well for the X18:25
Nokius_sven: tell more :)18:25
Nokiusall I need is adb and dev mode rest needs errase anyway18:25
Nokiusthat's why I'm not going to shop dunno what's on it and if it has data it needs to be flushed anyway before going to a repare18:26
dizzi90How noob-friendly is flashing the Xperia X?18:26
minicoehi. where can I download the instructions to create / flashmy own x image18:26
Nokius_sven: could you please DM me the details I'll take look but I need to go for dinner now many many thanks18:27
Nokius_sven: if I'm in SFOS I have ssh and vnc no need fo the didigtizer :D18:27
r0kk3rzdizzi90: flashing is easy, building has a few steps to it18:27
_svendizzi90 its noob approved18:27
dizzi90r0kk3rz: I've got my distcc ready :)18:28
dizzi90_sven: Great :)18:28
r0kk3rzhas someone devaamo'd it already?18:28
sledgesminicoe: hello; here you are:
_svenah, i tought you cannot reach the device in any way18:29
minicoeok. thanx I will download it. and give it a try18:29
r0kk3rzminicoe: good luck18:30
_svennokius i will use telegram and my native language, my english is worse :)18:32
minicoeIs the image now gratis or have i to pay for it? I heard of 50€18:32
_svenminicoe there are two different images. The one from jolla, comming soon (TM), which has aliendalvik to run android apps, this one will cost 50 euro.18:34
_sventhe other one is from the community, its for free, but you cannot run android apps. there are some more differences. but its for free or "gratis" in german :)18:35
r0kk3rzisnt gratis latin?18:37
_svenr0kk3rz: based on lat. gratia yes18:38
r0kk3rzso, not german then :p18:39
* sledges tries to hold his l10n back18:40
r0kk3rzsledges: but its the best l10n18:40
minicoethank you for the infos. When will the image with aliendalvik be published?18:41
r0kk3rz11 oct. or "soon"18:42
abransonSales start next week! tellyourfriends18:43
r0kk3rzsales, but not deliveried. why? who knows18:43
abransonAvoid disappointment! Order now!!18:44
r0kk3rzbut its not quantiy limited?18:45
abransonWho knows!?18:45
r0kk3rzindeed. that is certain :)18:46
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abransonOne thing that is certain is that the hype train has left the station!!18:46
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r0kk3rzwoo woo all aboard!18:47
abransonChoo choo!!!!18:47
_svenhmm im wondering that i can't just plug in a mouse via adapter to the X to use a mouse.18:48
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kimmoliyou'll not see a cursor18:49
_sventhat works on ubuntu phones pretty well18:49
r0kk3rzyeah but they spent a lot of effort on convergence18:50
r0kk3rzdidnt you faenil :)18:51
minicoeDo you know if the available funds can be used for paying the x image?18:52
r0kk3rzavailable funds?18:53
minicoefrom the tablet order18:54
r0kk3rzim sure that will be announced when he 'buy it naow' button is available18:57
abransonminicoe: yes I think so. Have a look at the tablet refund article on the Jolla blog18:58
minicoeThanx. I must leave. bye19:04
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nh1402does USB host work on the Xperia X in Sailfish?19:35
nh1402plugging in OTG cable with USB keyboard etc.19:35
Nokiusnh1402: OTG works just test a few minutes ago19:36
Nokiusbut I wan not able to type on the keyboard but LED worked :D19:36
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minicoehi guys.19:41
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minicoeIs it possible to port Sailfish OS to a Samsung gear?19:43
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sledgesminicoe: already been done on gear live:
sledgesasteroid os belongs to the same family of operating systems as sailfish os, and has its own opensource UI19:47
sledgescheck it in action, very similar to sfos:
sledgesthe look and feel that is19:47
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PavelKHi Guys. Will Xperia X F5122 be bricked If I flash it with the SailfishOS built for F5121 with the provided tutorial at
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sledgesPavelK: it shouldn't get hardbricked, that's for sure19:56
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sledgesthere's always Emma tool to restore to stock if it doesn't boot19:56
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PavelKsledges: thanks!19:59
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r0kk3rzPavelK: no it will be fine, someone did it already20:12
r0kk3rzyou need a couple of tweaks for the dual sim, but thats it20:12
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sledgeshi Rem_20:47
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T4<@adampigg> Sledges: ill probably back the watch too...but it still has some way to go22:16
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sledges@adampigg: i'm in the #shutupandtakemymoney mode as i haven't had any watch and could do with the one, and since it's Mer's bastard child, it's a nobrainer:) even if it only shows clock now, it has potential22:18
sledgesworst case it will go into my device museum ;)22:18
sledgesactually backed up two, one for gf as well22:18
sledges@adampigg, the funding goal looks hard to get, we need to do something 'bout that yes ;)22:19
sledgeshoping for the "last wave" people, share more (has @JollaHQ retweeted that?)22:19
sledgeseveryone's in the "has some way to go mode", that's how projects don't get funded :))22:20
sledgesit's crowd behaviour, i think i read article once where an example was used that if someone is in need of help, no-one goes ahead, thinking that someone else will:)22:21
sledgesit only needs ~150 more backers, that's less than in this channel22:22
sledgeswhere is the FOSS crowd now? can't be only 55 of them :)22:22
T4<@adampigg> Sledges: yup, that describes me!22:22
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sledgesif people are wondering what we're on about:
T4@isafeb was added by: @isafeb22:27
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kimmolioh, it is in english now, not just fr. also the ululele platform is strange to me.22:37
sledgespaypal option was better than card, so i could use my nearly-overdrawn card linked to it and no money was gone (just an authorisation was approved:))22:40
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