Wednesday, 2017-09-27

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spiiroinreview/testing appreciated: https://github.com/nemomobile/mce-plugin-libhybris/pull/2807:36
spiiroin^ makes all those led sysfs paths configurable in ini-files ... but could also break something, and I do not have access to all affected devices07:36
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T4<@adampigg> Mal: ah, making progress...i was going to ask if you were basing on a tag,.or just an arbitrary date?07:54
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Mister_Magisterspiiroin: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181308:20
merbotMer bug 1813 in mce "Add option to set On and Off value in Binary led configuration file" [Enhancement,New]08:20
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spiiroinMister_Magister: ack08:25
Mister_Magisterack?08:25
* Mister_Magister googles what ack means08:25
Mister_Magister"a human onomatopoeic(sound)word to describe frustration or disgust."08:25
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Mister_Magisterohno what have i done08:25
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spiiroin"acknowledged"08:26
Mister_Magisteraaaaaaaaahhhhh ufff08:26
Mister_Magister"In the TCP protocol, the receiving computer sends an ACK (acknowledgment) to the sending computer. This is basically how a coonection is established."08:26
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linzhihello, I wanna know if sailfish OS can be installed on raspberry pi 3B, i.e. armv8 devices?09:14
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ghosalmartinlocusf, i think thats for you ^^09:16
ghosalmartinlinzhi, do you mean arm64?09:17
r0kk3rzarmv8 aarch64, same thing :) not sure if the sailpi work as been reworked for the 3b though09:17
mammloukCan anyone answer a quick question on building for a different Android device?09:18
locusfv7 instructions work09:18
locusfso its no different from rpi209:18
locusfproblem is still qtwayland and obs09:19
linzhioh, I think it's arm64. Sorry I don't really know about architecture09:19
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r0kk3rzmammlouk: just ask09:19
mammloukI am making an attempt to build for the Sony Xperia Compact X. I was following the SailfishX instructions to setup the build environment.09:20
locusflinzhi: it is aarch64 but anyways, since sailfish isn't made for it, its not possible to use it outright for sailfish09:20
r0kk3rzmammlouk: stephg and another were also working on that device09:20
mammloukI changed the device name, but forgot to change the codename from suzu to kugo.09:21
mammloukIs there aquick way to fix my build environment without redoing the repo sync09:21
r0kk3rzmammlouk: you wont need to redo repo sync09:22
r0kk3rzeven if you did, it uses git and so it doesnt redownload everything from scratch09:22
saidinesh5mammlouk: just change the variable in name in the .hadk.env and close the chroot sessions and reopen them09:23
linzhilocusf: thanks. I just tried that .img on sailpi blog for rpi2 this afternoon, and it just shows a colorful image on screen and no more. What does that mean?09:23
saidinesh5mammlouk: do check your local_manifest/${DEVICE}.xml and see if you need any modifications there09:23
mammloukI tried updating hadk.envand dropping out of the chroot and coming back in. Then I ran build/envsetup.sh and it still says including device sony/suzu/vendorsetup.sh09:24
r0kk3rzyeah you'll want kugo configs09:24
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locusflinzhi: it means the compositor is broken09:24
mammloukI added the correct local manifest.09:24
r0kk3rzmammlouk: thats fine, whats in lunch?09:24
saidinesh5did you repo sync after adding the local manifest?09:24
mammloukno. I'm new to git and wasn't sure if I would end up re-downloading for another hour.09:25
mammloukI figured I ought to ask here first.09:25
r0kk3rzmammlouk: nah it's cleverer than that09:25
mammloukI figured it was.09:26
mammloukThanks09:26
mammloukrepo syncing now.09:26
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mammlouklooks like the cyanogen repo does not have the kugo files.09:29
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r0kk3rzmammlouk: cyanogen? show your manifest09:30
r0kk3rzyou shouldnt be doing anything with cyanogen for the XC09:30
r0kk3rzi suggest trying to catch stephg and get his work before continuing, he will know what you need09:31
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mammloukI just copied the manifest from the hadk example and changed the vendor/device.09:34
mammloukI guess I probably should've thought about it for an extra minute.09:34
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r0kk3rzyeah, thats not what you want to do at all :)09:35
mammlouklol09:35
r0kk3rzyou'll want something closer to my manifest example here: https://gist.github.com/r0kk3rz/0c13e14dfd6a4de117191d7248ed0ce9#file-hybris-aosp-build-instructions-L709:36
r0kk3rzdown the bottom09:36
mammloukGotcha.09:40
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stephgmammlouk: one sec will paste the right one09:46
stephghttps://gist.github.com/stephgosling/38b223deb99f672b6090b9bc63eb58d509:47
mammloukThanks stephg.09:48
mammloukHave you been able to do a full build for the Compact?09:50
stephgmammlouk: yes09:54
stephgManizuca did all the hard work09:54
stephgI've got it building in OBS09:54
mammloukAwesome.09:54
stephgbut we need more people to verify it09:54
stephgso it's good that you're trying09:54
stephgget that in your local repo09:55
stephgdo a repo sync09:55
stephgand I can guide you through what's different versus what is in the wiki09:55
r0kk3rzstephg: you also build the ext4 system.img?09:55
stephgr0kk3rz: end-to-end09:55
r0kk3rzstephg: a short gist of the differences would be helpful for me also09:55
r0kk3rzso i can do it for scorpion09:55
stephgr0kk3rz: it's mostly just splicing Manizuca's repos in09:56
stephginfact that's broadly it09:56
r0kk3rzoh ok, ive already got that for mine so the rest of it should JustWorkTM09:56
stephgI think so09:56
stephgI did have to do the minimalhooks change09:56
stephgwhich is a bit hacky09:57
r0kk3rzyeah well, blame sledges for not doing it properly in the first place09:57
stephgr0kk3rz: where are you up to? you've done hybris-hal presumabbly, you building middlewares?09:57
r0kk3rzstephg: i built different way, using aosp base image and flash normally over the top09:57
stephgoh as tho it were a CM-style port?09:58
stephg(reusing that /system?)09:58
r0kk3rzyeah basically09:58
r0kk3rzthis was before the syspart stuff was properly instructioned and battle tested09:58
stephgwell if you've got all of builds on the sailfish side in order can't you just build syspart and everything would work?09:59
r0kk3rzsounds like it, i havent tried yet09:59
sledgesloal is as proper as can get ;p09:59
stephgthings shouldn't get icky with image creation as you haveb't got hat far yet09:59
r0kk3rzhence the question09:59
r0kk3rzsledges: if $DEVICE eq f5121 then minimalhooks :P lies :)10:00
stephgr0kk3rz: if you have all your middleware I reckon you can try the syspart stuff and carry on10:00
stephg(if you have time to wait, it takes fscking ages :P)10:00
r0kk3rzhmm, maybe i delegate that task and steal the result10:01
mammloukstephg: I got the manifest updated and did the repo sync. downloaded and extracted the binaries from sony, exported USE_CCACHE=1, ran lunch,is there any other changes before making hybris-hal?10:01
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: if device === aarch64 then minimalhooks10:01
r0kk3rzMister_Magister: thats not what im talking about :)10:02
Mister_Magisterah okay10:02
sledgesPSA: sfosx bluetooth primordial enablers pushed out, but will need backporting bluez and adding new bt hciattsch rfkill package (it's on github). if you feel adventureous, redync hybris manifest and rebuild, writing up in  hot-hadk etherpad ;)10:02
r0kk3rzMister_Magister: and your php background is leaking, triple equals :)10:02
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: its not10:03
r0kk3rzsuch a terrible language10:03
stephgmammlouk: make hybris-hal now10:03
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: you are wrong lol10:03
mammloukit's running10:03
sledgesPSA: double tap to wake has been pushed out, but is known to cause issues on certqin xperiax the revisions10:03
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: http://php.net/manual/en/language.operators.comparison.php10:03
sledgess/the/hw/10:04
r0kk3rzMister_Magister: i dont understand the point you are trying to make10:04
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: your c++ backend doesn't have spaceship <=>10:04
* sledges is OTG to .fi ;) mostly afk10:04
r0kk3rzwtf is a spaceship :)10:04
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: you said that php is missing === which is not true10:04
stephgmammlouk: do the build then do chapter six as it says (set up targets) then ping me here after you've run build_packages.sh --droid-hal10:04
r0kk3rzMister_Magister: thats not what i said at all10:05
stephgactually10:05
stephgno10:05
stephgdon't do that10:05
stephgdon't run that10:05
stephgping me once you've set up your sb2 targets10:05
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: oh i misunderstood?10:05
stephg(chapter 6)10:05
r0kk3rzMister_Magister: yes, nevermind. was just a friendly jab10:05
Mister_Magisterokay10:05
Mister_Magisteri'm thinking on moving to c++ though10:06
mammloukstephg: will do. Unless I get too tired first and decide to try and sleep some more before I have to go to work. ;)10:06
Mister_Magisterbut segfaults -_-10:06
stephgmammlouk: where in the world are you10:06
mammloukColorado10:06
stephgok so v. early huh10:06
stephgmammlouk: the thing that takes the longest is building syspart10:06
stephgand you need another local_manifest for that too10:07
mammloukstephg: yeah. I should've gone to sleep already, but I was up with the baby and got mymind running on trying to build Sailfish. :D10:07
* Mister_Magister is thinking about upgrading his mobo so he will have 12 cores 24 threads10:08
* Mister_Magister 2x cpu10:08
Mister_Magistercpu usage is already below 5% lol10:09
* mammlouk should probably get a desktop again someday.10:09
Mister_Magisterthree years ago i had android. Such bad times10:09
Mister_MagisterPeople who type "selfishos" instead of "sailfishos" should be burned in hell10:13
Mister_Magisteror mordor10:13
mammloukhaha10:13
mammloukI've been wanting to give Sailfish a run for awhile, but never had supported hardware.10:14
Mister_Magistermammlouk: i was like "well i have sources i want it on my phone so i'll try to do it"10:18
stephgmammlouk: it's pretty :D10:18
Mister_Magistereverything is butterfly effect10:18
Mister_Magistery did i do that10:18
r0kk3rzMister_Magister: and then you spend all your time here, make new friends from all over the world, and learn a bunch of nerdy skills :)10:20
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: that why i'm asking "y did i do that"10:21
Mister_Magisterno i have no time and no money ¯\_(ツ)_/¯10:21
mammloukstephg: But how does it run?10:21
Mister_Magistermammlouk: even on very old hardware it runs smooth like newet flagship phone10:21
stephgmammlouk: very nicely, doesn't have all of the cores enabled yet either10:25
mammloukAny call quality or network issues?10:26
mammloukMoving into chapter 6 now.10:26
stephgmammlouk: not put a sim in it yet10:26
stephgso don't know10:26
mammloukfair enough10:27
stephgnote what chapter 6 says about naming the targets because it disagrees with what's in the scratchbox wiki10:27
stephgi.e. make sony-f5321-armv7hl rather than whatever the platform sdk wiki would have you do10:28
mammloukYeah. I was just reading that a third time to make sure I got what it was saying.10:29
stephgother than that it's straight forward10:30
T4<@ExPLIT> Hello guys! I flashed TWRP to the recovety image of my F5121. It doesn't work well, i can't mount emmc and microSD card and i would flash the jolla-recovery back. Where i can find this file to flash it with fastboot? … Thanks10:32
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stephgExPLITTelegram[m: did you build the image yourself?10:32
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T4<@ExPLIT> no i used this one http://images.devaamo.fi/sfe/suzu/10:33
T4<@ExPLIT> I tryed to build one by myself, but i have some errors and need to solve them first10:34
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stephgyou need do the first step of the X wiki to generate hybris-recovery.img10:34
stephgyou can then flash that I believe10:34
stephg(not sure if they're the same thing though, someone please correct me if I'm wrong)10:35
T4<@ExPLIT> thanks. i think i have hybris-recovery somewhere in the hadk folder. Just fastboot flash recovery hybris-recovery.img ?10:35
mammloukstephg: I still do 'sudo zypper in -t pattern Mer-SB2-armv7hl' as normal with no substitutions to get going; correct?10:35
stephgExPLITTelegram[m: probably?10:35
stephgmammlouk: yes10:35
stephgonce you've done chapter six, and before you run any build_packages.sh you need to edit that scripts and make this change:10:36
stephghttps://gitlab.com/Manizuca/droid-hal-device/commit/82303057c83be36a1683dbad1b618b54cdbd3f3c10:36
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T4<@ExPLIT> it worked. thank gys10:39
stephgExPLITTelegram[m: good stuff10:40
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T4<@ExPLIT> he.he... how to make full backup? Like on Jolla, backup /dev/mmcblk0p28 ?10:41
stephgExPLITTelegram[m: it'll be a different partition10:42
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T4<@ExPLIT> you know which?10:42
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stephgthe biggest one? sorry no10:43
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mammloukstephg: Where is build_packages.sh?10:59
stephg$ANDROID_ROOT/rpm/dhd/helpers/11:00
mammloukgot it11:02
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stephgonce you've done that11:04
stephgrun the --droid-hal build11:04
stephgbut the git clone is dfferent11:04
stephgmammlouk: clone this instead: https://gitlab.com/Manizuca/droid-config-f5321.git11:06
mammloukI'm getting permission denied for /hybris and /droid-local-repo whenI run the droid-hal build.11:07
stephgmammlouk: trying to write what where?11:08
stephgzypp.pid and such?11:08
mammloukI must've missed something because I don't have an $ANDROID_ROOT in my PlatformSDK chroot.11:09
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stephgmammlouk: that occasionally happens11:12
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sledgesr0kk3rz: see the wildcards :P reserved for future use ;p11:13
stephgin sfosdk source ~/.hadk.env11:13
stephgif $ANDROID_ROOT was unset you've possibly been doing things in the wrong dirs, probably your $HOME11:13
stephgit's all easy to redo, the problem one is moving your .repo dir to the right place so you don't have to sync 20GB again11:14
mammloukYeah I just got it going11:14
mammloukWe'll see what hapopens in a minute.11:14
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mammloukSeems to be working okay now.11:15
mammloukGood thing I've been a Linux user for 12 years. This has to feel like greek for Windows users.11:16
stephgyeah11:17
stephgwhen you're ready to go to the syspart section (next one, you need another local_manifest, so do the repo init as it suggests then add this to local_manifests/f5321.xml before you repo sync: https://gist.github.com/stephgosling/b003708d70c36af978d8811492d7832411:18
r0kk3rzsledges: hmm, i needed minimal hooks on scorpion so it would be nice to have a setting somewhere11:19
r0kk3rzor set it for all sony aosp6 devices somehow :)11:19
stephgr0kk3rz: we do this: https://gitlab.com/Manizuca/droid-hal-device/commit/82303057c83be36a1683dbad1b618b54cdbd3f3c11:19
sledgesr0kk3rz: minimalhooks is going ;)11:19
r0kk3rzah is minimalhooks becoming normal libhybris :)11:20
Mister_Magisterdunno what the minimalhooks is11:20
Mister_Magisterall i know it's newer11:21
sledgesr0kk3rz: it will be replaced by --wants-adreno-quirks from libhybris (iirc n64-rpm already has that), then you can drop intialization patch from bionic11:23
sledgesr0kk3rz: for now just add a device to build_packages11:23
sledgescan't be that hard ;)11:23
r0kk3rzno, thats basically what i did :)11:23
stephgmammlouk: I have to run so will be spotty for a bit, but building syspart takes 3 hours for me so there's plenty for your computer to be doing before you have to go work :D11:24
r0kk3rzsledges: but in general device specific stuff in mer-hybris common repos dont seem to get maintained, like fixup-mountpoints11:25
mammloukstephg: Thanks for the help11:25
stephgmammlouk: basically follow all the instructions, any time you have to clone a repo that has $DEVICE in the name use Manizuca's equivalent from gitlab11:25
stephgthe only one I'm iffy about is when you build the libhybris package, is whether you manually need to git checkout mimimalhooks in the repo before building it11:26
stephgbut other than that that's basically it11:26
sledgesr0kk3rz: wanna step up as maintainer? ;)11:29
sledgesrecent PRs got in at least11:29
r0kk3rzsledges: yeah theres a few things on my *to PR* list already11:30
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sledgesTOPR ;)11:32
r0kk3rzsledges: like this have_modem flag is broken https://github.com/r0kk3rz/droid-hal-configs/blob/master/droid-configs.inc#L353-L36411:32
* sledges afks into noisy London11:32
blapok then tonight i block 4 hours for xt894 keyboard map11:32
sledgesr0kk3rz: file a bug pls, https://bugs.merproject.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Mer%20Hybris&Bugzilla_restrictlogin=on&GoAheadAndLogIn=Log%20in&component=Sony%20Xperia%20X11:33
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UmeaboyI believe that I've solved the repo issues now, but opengapps is being called from somewhere. I don't intend to add it to my build.12:04
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Umeaboysledges: I12:55
Umeaboy'm one step closer to having a sucessful build. :)12:55
UmeaboyI just need to find out how to fix https://pastebin.com/UMPQTKAA12:56
UmeaboyI see that it's already defined on another place.....12:56
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edgar2I finally managed to downgrade and backup drm keys on the xperia x performance (F8131). Now would anyone know whether it is possible to flash any kind of sailfishx image onto the device?14:08
jakibakiedgar2: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9987514:09
jakibakioh wait14:09
jakibakiedgar2 sorry I didn't read correctly14:09
jakibakiedgar2: nope not on the x performance.14:09
edgar2What's the prospect of getting there?14:10
r0kk3rzedgar2: you'd need to build it14:10
edgar2Or in other words, should i aim to switch to another phone?14:10
r0kk3rzits not that hard really14:10
edgar2If i was to build it, would it mean that as of now none knows how well if at all it would play?14:11
r0kk3rznot for certain, but id expect it to be reasonably easy to get stuff working14:12
r0kk3rzi went from horribly broken to working reasonably well in a weekend14:13
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edgar2So where to begin and what are steps in short? (in order to build an image)14:20
r0kk3rzedgar2: https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Sailfish_X_Build_and_Flash14:21
abransonedgar2: that phone only has android 7 blobs available on the sony site. so far we only support android 6.14:21
r0kk3rzbut change the device name and codename, and you'll need a small local manifest for the device specific stuff14:21
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edgar2What's the meaning of missing android 6 blobs?14:23
abransonedgar2: it means that for that phone you can only build aosp version 7 or above14:24
abransonSailfish X so far only supports Android 614:24
abransonso you might not be able to build sailfish for that phone until that changes14:25
edgar2So downgrading to android 6 is a different thing.14:25
edgar2Sorry I'm not so well versed in these matters.14:26
abransonedgar2: hmm yeah. i didn't even know that you could do that for that phone :)14:27
r0kk3rzthey could be the same14:29
edgar2r0kk3rz: how do you mean?14:30
r0kk3rzthey are binary files, they could be the same between versions14:30
r0kk3rzno guarantees though, worst case you waste a bunch of time14:30
edgar2Meaning that one could try using the same ones as for f5121?14:31
r0kk3rzno, you use the android 7 binaries in an android 6 build14:31
edgar2I also have a z5 compact, if that would presumably be a more suitable device14:32
r0kk3rzyeah that will work14:32
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edgar2So it would be likely to get a sailfish image running on z5c which would be able perform basic functions sucs as calling, sms, email, web?14:33
r0kk3rzyou can try, i build for z3 tablet and it was ok14:34
edgar2Hows the performance compared to J1?14:35
r0kk3rzthe hardware is a lot more powerful than the j114:36
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edgar2I'm a bit overwhelmed by the information about sailfishx_build_and_flash14:41
edgar2...on how to build your own image14:42
r0kk3rzits a somewhat involved process14:42
r0kk3rzand you'll need to set up config repos and mountpoints, and kernel configs as well :)14:43
edgar2Yeah i think it's too much for me at the moment14:44
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r0kk3rzeasy mode is to buy an xperia x or xc14:46
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stephgr0kk3rz: where's the fun in that :D14:50
r0kk3rzits easy mode, not fun mode :)14:51
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yangm97nh1402: hello15:05
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nh1402[m]Yan Minari: it has been a while, a long while15:12
nh1402[m]yangm97: it has been a while, a long while15:13
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yangm97nh1402: I'd rather see you one day a year than see someone else seven days a week15:16
yangm97haha15:16
nh1402[m]yangm97: it has been over a year15:17
nh1402[m]yangm97: still using Sailfish?, done any porting15:18
yangm97nh1402: I'm still using iOS as my main OS but looking for a replacement lcd for my 1st gen moto e15:21
yangm97looks like someone else started porting already, though it's not complete15:22
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nh1402[m]yangm97: you going to stick around this time?15:29
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yangm97nh1402: well, it only depends on the health of my device15:34
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sledgesPSA: more concise info on todays bits for braves: https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/hot-hadk16:14
* sledges aboards the plane16:14
stephgsledges: safe flight!16:20
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atlochowskiI don't know if its good place to ask but maybe someone knows why https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/ doesn't work? For sure from tomorrow.17:11
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piggz_evening17:32
piggz_mal: how did you get on with 14?17:33
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nekronwhats all the fuss about Emma lately? Shouldnt it be ok to downgrade using XDA flashtool to MM like most of us had done to fetch TA data?17:50
r0kk3rznekron: it sure is, but thats not the issue17:54
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nekronr0kk3rz: so its just legal stuff then?17:55
r0kk3rzyeah basically17:57
r0kk3rzalways the legal stuff stopping us from doing cool things17:58
nekronyea I know  ;)17:58
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nekronall the whining on tmo about Windoze, but it should be ok if there is a none offical way to use Linux only18:03
nh1402r0kk3rz: Emma doesn't support the Xperia X the last time I checked18:03
nekronI bet Sony has to tweak some server side configs and voila18:05
nekrondowngrade to MM and profit!18:06
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r0kk3rznh1402: minor issue, see the latest jolla blog18:52
malpiggz_: I just got for the first time ever a hybris-14.1 image that boots to without any hacking after installation18:53
mal*boots to UI18:53
piggz_mal: \o/18:54
piggz_mal: good enough for me :)18:54
r0kk3rzwoah crazy18:54
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malevery time before I have had to add some missing files to the device18:54
piggz_mal: are you basing everything on a particular checkout? (as there are no snapshots)18:57
malpiggz_: I haven't yet done the proper manifest but I plan to lock it to certain commits18:58
piggz_awesome .. hopefully i'll get to play with it this week18:59
malI'll start pushing the repos19:01
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piggz_saw some great code today ... a function with 14 lines of description above the signature, stating how it works and what parameters it takes ... an idfef'd debug line at the start which prints the params ... and a single 'return OK;' in the body :D19:16
JarnoHope someone can give me a hand with my next step in building according to https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Sailfish_X_Build_and_Flash#Adaptation_Status. I'm stuck at skipping Chapter 719:28
JarnoPLATFORM_SDK $19:28
Jarnocd $ANDROID_ROOT19:28
Jarnorpm/dhd/helpers/build_packages.sh --droid-hal19:28
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Jarnothe cd $ANDROID_ROOT does nothing, also no error. But it doesn't bring me to the ~./hadk dir. If I go there manually and go on with rpm/dhd/helpers/build_packages.sh --droid-hal I get the error "!! Error: $DEVICE is undefined. Please run hadk"19:30
JarnoSo my logic would say that the variables set in .hadk.env are not 'read' by PLATFORM_SDK. They do work in HABUILD_SDK19:31
kimmolidid you run hadk ?19:32
JarnoPlatformSDK bash-3.2$ hadk19:35
Jarnobash: hadk: command not found19:35
kimmolirevisit 4.1.19:38
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malpiggz_: all uploaded, including the manifest19:40
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piggz_mal: what date nightly los14 would be the best base image match?19:46
malyesterday19:47
malhopefully the manifest works, I was too lazy to test it19:48
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JarnoThanks kimmoli, apparently there was still an error there. Gonna work myself through the manual again.19:48
malpiggz_: let me know when you build using that so I can fix any issues you might encounter19:49
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nh1402well HMD Globacl have confirmed all their "Nokia" phones are going to come with a locked bootloader20:13
nh1402global*20:13
mal:(20:14
blapdead brand bounce20:15
stephg\o20:18
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nh1402and they claim it's for security reasons which is BS20:21
nh1402https://twitter.com/sarvikas/status/91042183766179020820:23
ahjolinnayeah... when it comes to security android isn't that great from the beginning....anyways Nokia in the past has always have locked bootloader...not counting N900/n9 I think at least20:24
* blap finally has n900 successor thanks to you people20:27
nh1402exactly, if you have an unlocked bootloader, if there is a security vulnerability you could patch the kernel yourself, or someone else provides a patched version, months before the OEM release an update if they update it at all.20:28
ahjolinnayes patch your kernel yourself...yes ...so many people know how to do that...or install a "community" made one......and then trust that its not tempered at all...sure..why not20:32
ahjolinnayes that option can be nice for some of us, but we are like the 0.0001%20:34
ahjolinna(oh right, I maybe need to mention that I was being sarcastic at first)20:36
ahjolinnawith Sony, they have made MXTP to protect their bootloader, also if you do unlock the bootloader many of sonys features will stop working (their proprietary camera, display and battery stuff)....and there are some apps that wont work with rooted/unlocked devices20:41
nh1402ahjolinna: there aren't many OEM's that provide an unlockable bootloader, and go to those lengths to stop things from working20:43
nh1402as far as I know Samsung do something similar with Knox, but there isn't camera, display or battery stuff that stops working after unlocking the bootloader.20:44
nh1402i could be wrong20:44
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nh1402the Nexus 5, unlock the bootloader does nothing other than what unlocking the bootloader is supposed to do.20:45
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stephghtc don't (didn't)20:46
nh1402stephg: don't they have some weird S-off thing20:47
ahjolinnawhat I understand the Sonys MXTP was inspired by a nexus feature...I dont remember which nexus one did start to get something like that20:48
nh1402the Pixel series have some e-fuse thing iirc20:48
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nh1402just like Samsung20:48
stephgnh1402 they may do now, but last device I had you just had to mail them to get a key20:48
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stephg(to unlock and that was that)20:49
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nh1402well that's enough from me today, good night20:49
stephgo/ nh140220:49
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malpiggz_: there some special hybris-14.1 things you need in droid-configs repo so ask me when you are at that stage21:08
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piggz_mal: thats tomorrow, still syncing ;)21:16
malpiggz_: it's just quite many symlinks to a new magical place21:17
malI probably should document those somewhere21:18
malpiggz_: I'm starting to run out of space on my build machine, only 9 GB left21:21
maltoo many source trees21:21
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piggz_mal: yeah, i deleted my n7000 trees21:21
piggz_figured i wasnt going to bother iwth it21:21
malpiggz_: I think my porting is getting quite out of hand, I have source trees for hybris-11.0, 12.1, 13.0, 14.1, 15.0, aosp fp2, aosp xperia and anbox21:23
malactually two source trees for fp2, aosp5 and aosp621:24
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stephgmal: you need a kickstarter for moar storage21:31
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malstephg: well I have a 12 TB NAS also but I don't have the sources there because it's faster to have those locally21:32
piggz_its a shame i dont have a large ssd for these things ... my / is on ssd, but sources on a hybrid drive21:34
piggz_and, i dont think the big cache makes a difference in these situations21:34
malpiggz_: I have a 500 GB SSD for the sources21:34
piggz_nice21:35
piggz_mal: yay, syncing work tree stage21:35
r0kk3rztbh we need to add the trees to ipfs or something... its only a pita because the download is so slow21:36
piggz_i can probably kick on a mka hybris-hal and go to bed21:36
piggz_s/off21:36
stephgr0kk3rz: yes, add containers into that mix and we're rocking and rolling21:36
stephg(no nominative pun intended)21:36
stephgimagine being able to docker pull $DEVICE-$RELEASE (or whatever) and bam straight away being able to work21:37
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r0kk3rzthats not such a bad idea really21:39
stephgipfs'ing repo is a bigger short term win21:39
stephgI've taken to having VMs on my vm host for the different builds now, not least because I manage to mess the setup up so much21:40
piggz_hmmm, switching to los14.1 kernel brings possibility of using one of the third part kernels, with features like dt2w21:41
stephgbut it means alot of duplication, 3 VMs now so that's 3 repos and an additional 2 syspart repos for sony21:41
stephgso lets call that 100GB all told, and 20GB or so to manually sync each time21:41
stephgwith ipfs that'd be 'easy'21:42
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r0kk3rzyeah maybe, i really need to catch up on their latest ipld stuff21:48
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piggz_mal: in the ubuntu chroot, how did you get java 1.8?21:50
stephgr0kk3rz: similar note, swapping chroots out for containers also not a bad shout ^^21:52
* stephg just thinking out loud, but now bedtiem, night all21:53
piggz_ok, installed it manually from the android page21:54
ghosalmartinso anybody hooked up bluetooth?21:55
stephgghosalmartin: not had time to read the hot-faq21:56
ghosalmartinstephg, i might give it a shot21:57
ghosalmartinif i do a repo sync and theres been an update, will it just update it?22:01
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ghosalmartinkrnlyng, you still awake? :P22:10
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krnlyngghosalmartin, maybe22:16
ghosalmartinkrnlyng, for the bluetooth comment, when it says backport latest master, does it just mean build the latest bluez5 master and deploy to device?22:17
ghosalmartinin the hot-hadk22:17
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mickaelHi22:43
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ghosalmartinmickael, hello22:49
mickaelI'm encountering an issue following the porting guide, can you help me please ?22:51
blapthat depends on the question22:54
mickaelIt's about zypper at the start of the chapter 7: "qt5-qttools-kmap2qmap >= 5.1.0+git5 is needed by droid-hal-f5121-0.0.6-201709272239.armv7hl" but a newer version is already installed "No update candidate for 'qt5-qttools-kmap2qmap-5.6.2+git4-1.9.1.i486'"22:55
mickaelI'm not familiar with zypper, this comes from the online Sailfish X Build and Flash guide22:56
ghosalmartinmickael, is that causing a problem?22:58
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mickael"rpm/dhd/helpers/build_packages.sh --droid-hal" outputs the error "!! building of package failed ", I did not try to continue through the guide23:01
ghosalmartinmickael, you need to delete and reinstall your target me thinks23:07
mickaelOk, thanks. I'll try it tomorrow. See you23:08
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ghosalmartinjusa, you still about?23:10
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