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TheKit | how to debug why jolla-camera works as root, but doesn't connect to droidcamsrc as nemo? | 07:52 |
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ghosalmartin | morning | 08:24 |
Mister_Magister | morning | 08:31 |
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r0kk3rz | anyone managed to fix a lipstick[1298]: library "libI420colorconvert.so" not found error? | 11:22 |
r0kk3rz | seems to be the cause of youtube not showing video | 11:22 |
abranson | r0kk3rz: yes, that was fixed in droidmedia a couple of months ago. The sony needed it. | 11:23 |
r0kk3rz | ah, i should rebuild droidmedia then | 11:24 |
r0kk3rz | it was built some time ago now | 11:25 |
r0kk3rz | abranson: what about missing ac3 audio codec? | 11:25 |
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MeowDude | elros: are there any planned updates for the xt907 build of sailfish os? | 11:52 |
MeowDude | I noticed it had OTA support | 11:52 |
r0kk3rz | if it has ota, then you can ota to the latest | 11:52 |
MeowDude | I know that (obviously), I asked for *planned* updates | 11:53 |
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elros | moto_msm8960_jbbl never had ota | 12:03 |
MeowDude | elros | 12:03 |
MeowDude | the xt907 build does | 12:03 |
elros | no | 12:03 |
MeowDude | I thought you made that one | 12:03 |
elros | I am slowly preparing it for xt897 | 12:03 |
MeowDude | *thonk* but it has a sailfish os updates tab and I can check for updates | 12:03 |
r0kk3rz | thats not how you OTA a ported device | 12:04 |
MeowDude | I might switch to the msm8960jbbl build if it has working headphone jack | 12:04 |
elros | MeowDude: you can't just switch | 12:04 |
elros | I told you what to do with jack | 12:04 |
MeowDude | that sounds EXACTLY link how OTA works, seeing as how none of my other sailfish devices have that tab | 12:04 |
MeowDude | also why not? I am on JBBL, also yeah elros, I am gonna SSH real quick, I finally figured out how to ssh with putty | 12:05 |
MeowDude | brb | 12:05 |
r0kk3rz | sounds, sure, but its not :) | 12:05 |
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r0kk3rz | it'd be nice if it worked like that, because thats how official devices work | 12:05 |
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MeowDude | god damnit I hate my PC so much | 12:06 |
MeowDude | I am gonna have to bust out the ethernet cord since putty thinks it needs internet to ssh | 12:07 |
elros | I told you xt897 and xt907 have different partition layout. I was thinking about splitting moto_msm8960_jbbl long time ago but nobody was interested, now I am too lazy | 12:07 |
MeowDude | oh that explains the fact that the unified build wouldn't boot on my xt907 | 12:09 |
elros | they both use unified sources just different fixup mountpoints. Feel free to take care xt907's sailfish maintenance if you like | 12:11 |
MeowDude | elros: I am using puTTY on windows, I use usb IP 192.168.2.15 on default port 22 | 12:11 |
MeowDude | I might take that up elros | 12:12 |
MeowDude | a fresh 2.1.3.7 build would be... neat... | 12:12 |
elros | yeah it's almost ready. I just need to prepare new patch for jolla-camera | 12:13 |
MeowDude | why putty no connect | 12:13 |
MeowDude | grrr | 12:13 |
MeowDude | I am going to have to do this in a couple hours | 12:14 |
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elros | MeowDude: you can propbably fix it yourself: https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/faq-hadk#lineNumber=607 | 12:17 |
MeowDude | oh boy that is some next level developer stuff | 12:22 |
MeowDude | so juicy. This requires me to start development for xt907 though, and I am already setting up build environments for grouper and manta... meh, a third one can't hurt | 12:23 |
MeowDude | maybe Mister_Magister can apply this to his flo build | 12:24 |
Mister_Magister | MeowDude: You can still think i'm idiot i dont care | 12:26 |
MeowDude | why would you think that I think you are an idiot? | 12:26 |
Mister_Magister | [13:24] <MeowDude> maybe Mister_Magister can apply this to his flo build | 12:26 |
MeowDude | yeah so? I was trying to help | 12:27 |
Mister_Magister | it it was that easy i would do that long time ago? | 12:27 |
MeowDude | I figured you just didn't think it was that important and you were busy fixing other things | 12:27 |
MeowDude | I had never heard of this etherpad website until now | 12:28 |
Mister_Magister | nope | 12:28 |
MeowDude | This entire Sailfish OS porting situation is so complicated, I wish it were easier | 12:29 |
mal | MeowDude: you should have seen how it was like 2-3 year ago | 12:32 |
MeowDude | It was worse!? | 12:32 |
mal | quite much | 12:32 |
MeowDude | oh well, I hope it gets better in the future. And I hope Jolla releases more devices and starts selling hardware more | 12:32 |
r0kk3rz | complicated things are complicated, news at 11 | 12:34 |
Mister_Magister | mal: is right lol | 12:36 |
Mister_Magister | now porting is easy af | 12:36 |
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r0kk3rz | theres still a few danger zones, like exynos processors and a few bluetooth chips | 12:37 |
MeowDude | >tfw porting to exynos | 12:37 |
Mister_Magister | >jolla >selling hardware. Are you comming from 2014? | 12:38 |
MeowDude | then again exynos in general is garbage to work with | 12:38 |
Mister_Magister | r0kk3rz: lets talk about my bluetooth and audio issues :D | 12:38 |
MeowDude | yeah sounds silly now that I think about it... but they definitely need to advertise more | 12:38 |
r0kk3rz | jolla doesnt make hardware anymore | 12:39 |
MeowDude | most basic android rommers and even a handful of enthusiasts have never heard of Sailfish OS | 12:39 |
MeowDude | yeah it is risky but software, they could still work on. The lack of recognition hurts them in more ways than one | 12:39 |
r0kk3rz | yeah i agree, its something of a vicious cycle | 12:40 |
r0kk3rz | nobody knows about sailfish, so no OEMs want to take the risk | 12:40 |
r0kk3rz | but in many ways sailfish isnt really ready for prime-time anyway | 12:40 |
MeowDude | and so forth and so forth, what Jolla needs to do is look at what happened to Windows Mobile and try to avoid what they did. Alien dalvik is neat and all but a Jolla Made alternative, even if buggy would be a great step | 12:41 |
MeowDude | I don't know, there are some VERY stable community ports, and I would like to think actual Jolla employees getting paid to port could do even better (or at least do it faster) | 12:42 |
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MeowDude | God seeing all those red squares in the samsung section is just plain intimidating, how come exynos is so hard to develop for? doesn't samsung release source for all the older devices (like say, the Galaxy SIII?) | 12:43 |
mal | samsung also has qcom devices, those are not that difficult to port | 12:45 |
MeowDude | Yeah, having a qcom SoC in your device is a blessing, I would replace my Nexus 10 with a Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 just for Sailfish but the screen resolution drop is extreme (2560x1560 to 1280x800) | 12:47 |
r0kk3rz | MeowDude: yes theres no shortage of armchair CEOs suggesting what jolla should/shouldnt do :) | 12:47 |
r0kk3rz | their current strategy seems to be working for the most part | 12:48 |
MeowDude | You have to admit though, the entire Sailfish OS situation is VERY similar to another now dead OS *cough cough* Windows Mobile *cough cough* | 12:48 |
MeowDude | yeah, slow and safe is probably best for a startup company, at least for now... I just wish they were more known and had more app support (I cry for an official spotify app) | 12:48 |
r0kk3rz | and BBOS, and ubuntu touch, and webos .etc | 12:48 |
MeowDude | I hope SFOS can succeed where they didn't | 12:49 |
MeowDude | also mal, you are developing for the GTab 4 10.1 right? | 12:49 |
r0kk3rz | their main selling point at the moment is not being American | 12:49 |
MeowDude | thats silly, america is home to some of the most loved companies | 12:50 |
mal | MeowDude: yes, although I haven't worked on that recently | 12:50 |
MeowDude | yeah I can't find a download link or page for it, but I see it in the adaptations page. It looks like a solid build (seeing all that green), why not release publicly? | 12:51 |
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mal | a bit too perfectionist | 12:52 |
MeowDude | I think the average joe would absolutely swoon over even a bug filled alpha build for the tab 10.1, I have yet to see sailfish OS on a large tablet | 12:53 |
MeowDude | at this points having sailfish os on my Nexus 10 makes more sense than to have it for grouper | 12:53 |
MeowDude | ohfuck sailfish os for galaxy tab 2 10.1, maybe I will buy a tablet this day | 12:55 |
r0kk3rz | MeowDude: yeah, but thats the only reason why the russian and chinese governments are investing in sailfish | 12:55 |
Mister_Magister | samsung tablets are shit lol | 12:56 |
Mister_Magister | like whole samsung | 12:56 |
MeowDude | not all true, my Nexus 10 is god tier and its technically a samgsung tablet | 12:56 |
MeowDude | also the novelty would be having sailfish os on a big screen, the 143ppi is off putting though... I could probably find one for 100$ | 12:56 |
MeowDude | wew a galaxy tab 2 is 200$ AUD, and that is for the wifi only model. Not worth it at all. *shakes fist* curse you australia and your sky high prices!!! | 13:03 |
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r0kk3rz | yeah i cant say i miss that part of aus :) | 13:06 |
MeowDude | I miss the US. A Gtab 2 10.1 is only 50$ in the US, some were listed for 30$ as bid | 13:09 |
MeowDude | even with international shipping it is still half the price of domestic, you watch, when amazon gets here, this shit will finally end | 13:10 |
r0kk3rz | maybe, if the prices are indeed just gouging | 13:11 |
MeowDude | even if they don't drop, just buying from amazon will at least be an option | 13:12 |
MeowDude | this is just ridiculous, I bought my OG Nexus 7 for 30$ and can sell it for 3x that here | 13:12 |
r0kk3rz | id expect import taxes and GST to make a fair chunk of the difference | 13:13 |
r0kk3rz | plus its a small market, so companies want to make enough money for them to even bother | 13:14 |
MeowDude | no no no, amazon is actually setting up ware houses HERE in australia, so we don't have to deal with that stupid shit anymore | 13:14 |
MeowDude | god I miss being able to just pick up 2012 hardware for on the cheap so much | 13:14 |
r0kk3rz | yes i know | 13:17 |
r0kk3rz | but all of those things are still relevant | 13:17 |
r0kk3rz | nobody is going to suddenly start making electronics in australia because amazon set up a warehouse | 13:18 |
r0kk3rz | thus, they will be imported and taxed | 13:18 |
MeowDude | I hate buying stuff here so much | 13:22 |
MeowDude | at least stuff on gumtree is a bit cheaper | 13:22 |
r0kk3rz | if its cheaper to pay for shipping from the us, then just do that lol | 13:24 |
r0kk3rz | i certainly did that for a while when the AUD was trading at around USD$1.10 | 13:25 |
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MeowDude | the problem is the time it takes to get here, my tab 2 would get here on january 27th | 13:26 |
r0kk3rz | so? | 13:29 |
r0kk3rz | patience young padawan | 13:30 |
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NotKit | <r0kk3rz> if it has ota, then you can ota to the latest | 13:36 |
NotKit | doesn't it need to be explicitly compiled for specific version in testing for OTA? | 13:37 |
r0kk3rz | it'll need the latest target in the testing repo | 13:40 |
r0kk3rz | but iirc thats it | 13:40 |
r0kk3rz | unless theres required kernel changes | 13:41 |
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MeowDude | I am getting a silly (and probably minor) error where HABUILD_SDK setups $DEVICE twice | 14:22 |
MeowDude | it says env_setup for manta twice in terminal and as such I see HABUILD_SDK [manta] HABUILD_SDK [manta]" | 14:23 |
Mister_Magister | MeowDude: that only means as always you did something wrong and we will magicall not look into your pc | 14:23 |
MeowDude | >as always | 14:23 |
MeowDude | Is it even a big deal? | 14:23 |
Mister_Magister | you added something twice to .hadk files | 14:24 |
MeowDude | can I just remove it? | 14:24 |
Mister_Magister | yeap | 14:24 |
Mister_Magister | ofcourse you'll break something doing that probably so make backup | 14:25 |
MeowDude | this is a new VM for manta, and I doubt that, I think Ive got the hang of this since this is my only problem | 14:25 |
MeowDude | let me just take a looksee in hadk to see what file to delete the duplicate lines from | 14:25 |
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MeowDude | this is odd, I am in $HOME but I don't see .hadk.env or any of the other files (and yes, hidden files is on) | 14:29 |
MeowDude | I ran echo $HOME and I am in the right directory | 14:29 |
MeowDude | ah here it is | 14:30 |
MeowDude | yay problem solved! I am learning finally! | 14:31 |
MeowDude | Mister_Magister: Looks like I finally did something without help. this is a good feel. | 14:34 |
Mister_Magister | *cough* without help *cough* *cough* | 14:35 |
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MeowDude | what? You didn't really help me | 14:35 |
MeowDude | I looked in hadk for the file that chroot used on start up, and I removed the double entry using the BEST text editing tool, nano | 14:35 |
Mister_Magister | then why you asked? | 14:36 |
MeowDude | nano > cat | 14:36 |
MeowDude | I figured it'd be much more complicated then it actually was | 14:36 |
Mister_Magister | cat is for getting content not editing it | 14:36 |
MeowDude | nano is just as good for that | 14:36 |
Mister_Magister | nope its not its for something different | 14:36 |
Mister_Magister | and also i told you which files to change and what to change lol whatever | 14:36 |
Mister_Magister | next time dont ask if you know answer lol | 14:37 |
MeowDude | agree to disagree, in my mind nano will always be superior. No you didn't, you said .hadk files, the file to change was mersdkchroot, and again I figured it'd be super complex or something so I asked before actually looking myself | 14:37 |
Mister_Magister | again if you did know how to fix that why you asked then? | 14:38 |
Mister_Magister | and again cat is not for modifying files its for getting file content to stdout | 14:39 |
MeowDude | b-but... nano..., also I didn't know how to fix when I asked, If I had known how to fix I wouldn't have asked | 14:40 |
MeowDude | Hey wait you did help me, you told me I made a double entry... thanks *thumbs up* :D | 14:41 |
Mister_Magister | *rolls eyes* | 14:41 |
Mister_Magister | i wanna see you greping nano lol | 14:42 |
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MeowDude | I really want to buy a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 but that display is off putting... 149ppi is just such a drop from the 300ppi my eyes are accustomed too | 14:46 |
r0kk3rz | you really want a sfos tablet huh | 14:49 |
MeowDude | I have a Nexus 7 2013 with sfos (thank you mister magister), but a big tablet would be the best | 14:49 |
MeowDude | Sailfish OS on my 10.1 inch Nexus 10 would be god tier | 14:49 |
MeowDude | not to mention a lot of people still use the nexus 10 and a sailfish os build would probably be quite popular | 14:50 |
MeowDude | oy, I have ran repo sync for the night, it is time for me to rest. chrome remote desktop is the best thing that's ever happened to me. I can do all this from my chromebook in bed or on the couch | 14:52 |
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Mister_Magister | MeowDude: you know that vnc exists right? | 14:57 |
MeowDude | what is vnc | 14:58 |
Mister_Magister | … | 14:58 |
Mister_Magister | MeowDude: also poeple arent that easy. more people are interested in sfos for htc pico which nobody uses than moto x force | 14:59 |
MeowDude | chrome remote desktop works fine, also that is fucking cool, sfos on the htc pico is really neat. if sfos is fast on that device than it is probs fast on most devices | 14:59 |
MeowDude | what a neat proof of concept too | 14:59 |
MeowDude | I see you made a page on it, why did you use cm12.1 as a base? why not 10.1 or 11? | 15:00 |
Mister_Magister | why should i lol | 15:02 |
MeowDude | holy fug you got it to work | 15:02 |
Mister_Magister | and there is no hybris-10.1 | 15:02 |
Mister_Magister | you dont get what i said | 15:03 |
Mister_Magister | what i said is that if poeple still use device that doesnt mean it will be popular | 15:03 |
MeowDude | wait but my Nexus 7 2012 sfos 1.0.8 uses cm10.1 as a base... I got what you said, but the HTC pico build genuinly interests me. | 15:03 |
Mister_Magister | cause 1.0.8 was hell long time ago? | 15:04 |
MeowDude | yeah but hybris 10.1 exists though right? | 15:04 |
Mister_Magister | outdated as hell? | 15:04 |
MeowDude | also what happened, you never released the htc pico port | 15:04 |
MeowDude | still exists | 15:04 |
MeowDude | *looks at you slyly* | 15:05 |
Mister_Magister | and? | 15:05 |
MeowDude | well you said there is no hybris 10.1 | 15:05 |
Mister_Magister | because if something is not maintained since year its useless and if its useless then it doesnt exists for me | 15:05 |
MeowDude | also I figured the port to HTC pico would be ancient | 15:05 |
mal | 10.1 should be only used if there is no newer android base available or for some reason the hardware support in the later bases is worse | 15:05 |
MeowDude | good point | 15:05 |
MeowDude | I am using cm11 for all my bases | 15:06 |
MeowDude | simply because I feel more comfortable staying as close to hadk as possible | 15:06 |
Mister_Magister | what? | 15:06 |
mal | 12.1 or 13.0 is preferred over 11.0 | 15:06 |
mal | mostly because 11.0 is so old | 15:06 |
Mister_Magister | yeah cm11 is beginnig to be outdated | 15:06 |
Mister_Magister | i think cm13 is most main these days and cm14 for newer phones | 15:07 |
mal | probably | 15:07 |
MeowDude | I would have used 12.1 or 13 but I REALLY don't want to deviate from hadk | 15:08 |
Mister_Magister | mal: hi btw how is your health? | 15:08 |
MeowDude | and the cm11 sourced for manta are still perfectly fine | 15:08 |
MeowDude | mal are you sick? | 15:08 |
Mister_Magister | MeowDude: what are you even talking about "deviate from hadk"? | 15:08 |
mal | Mister_Magister: there is no difference in porting between 11.0, 12.1 and 13.0 | 15:08 |
MeowDude | hadk uses cm11 as the example | 15:08 |
mal | oops | 15:08 |
MeowDude | I don't want to use anything else | 15:08 |
mal | MeowDude: ^ | 15:08 |
Mister_Magister | :) | 15:09 |
mal | MeowDude: well the pdf has to use something as an example, it just happens to be the old one | 15:09 |
MeowDude | I know, this is just for my self so I can't blame my base for any issues I am having/will have (exynos port problems are bound to come) | 15:09 |
mal | MeowDude: only 14.1 has some differences to the older bases | 15:09 |
MeowDude | 14.1 would have been bad for manta, camera is broken along with headphone jack in that one | 15:10 |
MeowDude | but 13 would have been fine | 15:10 |
Mister_Magister | hadk is outdated before relase so | 15:10 |
mal | MeowDude: how well is the 11.0 android maintained for that device? | 15:10 |
MeowDude | well, its a bit old but repo sync works fine and Snapshot M11 is very fast and stable | 15:11 |
mal | Mister_Magister: and to your question, same as before | 15:11 |
MeowDude | And I think there might still be Lineage OS 11 builds being made | 15:11 |
MeowDude | oh wait I am thinking of grouper | 15:11 |
Mister_Magister | mal: i mean you had flu or something like that or am i wrong? | 15:12 |
mal | Mister_Magister: oh, that went away of course | 15:13 |
Mister_Magister | nice | 15:13 |
mal | Mister_Magister: I meant my sleeping issues | 15:13 |
Mister_Magister | i considier it normal by now :D | 15:13 |
MeowDude | god I hate android oreo, the UI is so terrible now. | 15:14 |
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raandoom_ | MeowDude, you have problems with with 14.1 because of firmware maybe? lineage 14.1 for zuk z1 does not include firmware (at this moment maybe include already) and i must flash marshmallow firmware for 14.1 by myself, maybe in your case it will works too | 17:17 |
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Mister_Magister | jusa: hi can you help me with fixing mic? | 19:04 |
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jusa | Mister_Magister: what's with mic? have you tried quirks=+input_atoi ? | 19:59 |
Mister_Magister | nah sorry forgot that one | 20:00 |
Mister_Magister | jusa where should i put this | 20:02 |
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Mister_Magister | jusa: ? | 20:52 |
mal | I would assume in .pa file as a parameter to droid-card module | 20:53 |
mal | or actually you can use another file for that use which you see in the .pa file | 20:54 |
piggz | it seems gone are the days of using a user/pass, and now apps must include a webserver to handle oauth :D | 20:58 |
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Mister_Magister | piggz: sad true | 21:20 |
piggz | fortunately, i found a lib to make it easier | 21:23 |
r0kk3rz | piggz: what app you making? | 21:24 |
piggz | r0kk3rz: modiying laufhelden to add strava upload, hopefully a PR will be accepted | 21:25 |
piggz | interesting playing with web api's .. substantially different from porting | 21:28 |
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r0kk3rz | yes i imagine so | 21:33 |
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Mister_Magister | mal: jusa: nope that didnt help | 21:38 |
mal | Mister_Magister: show what you tried | 21:45 |
Mister_Magister | mal: i tried what you said lol | 21:46 |
mal | Mister_Magister: details | 21:46 |
mal | because you might have made some mistake | 21:46 |
Mister_Magister | yeah | 21:47 |
Mister_Magister | load-module module-droid-card quirks=+input_atoi rate=48000 mute_routing_before=24576 mute_routing_after=4096 | 21:48 |
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Mister_Magister | mal: ^^^ | 21:51 |
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mal | Mister_Magister: can't see anything obviously wrong | 21:56 |
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piggz | any you guys know, if in a c++ class, you have a property that is a qvariantmap, how, in qml, do you access an item, that is in a sub variant map? | 22:49 |
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Mister_Magister | piggz: dunno try different things? console.log it? | 22:59 |
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nik123 | got to chapter seven, and RPM fails spectacularely | 23:50 |
nik123 | RPM build errors: \n Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: | 23:51 |
nik123 | and then some files | 23:51 |
nik123 | I can't figure out what's wrong | 23:51 |
Mister_Magister | add it to straggler files | 23:51 |
nik123 | I'm stupid | 23:52 |
nik123 | thanks | 23:52 |
nik123 | I missed the most obvious thing | 23:52 |
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