Wednesday, 2017-12-27

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TheKithow to debug why jolla-camera works as root, but doesn't connect to droidcamsrc as nemo?07:52
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r0kk3rzanyone managed to fix a lipstick[1298]: library "" not found error?11:22
r0kk3rzseems to be the cause of youtube not showing video11:22
abransonr0kk3rz: yes, that was fixed in droidmedia a couple of months ago. The sony needed it.11:23
r0kk3rzah, i should rebuild droidmedia then11:24
r0kk3rzit was built some time ago now11:25
r0kk3rzabranson: what about missing ac3 audio codec?11:25
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MeowDudeelros: are there any planned updates for the xt907 build of sailfish os?11:52
MeowDudeI noticed it had OTA support11:52
r0kk3rzif it has ota, then you can ota to the latest11:52
MeowDudeI know that (obviously), I asked for *planned* updates11:53
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elrosmoto_msm8960_jbbl never had ota12:03
MeowDudethe xt907 build does12:03
MeowDudeI thought you made that one12:03
elrosI am slowly preparing it for xt89712:03
MeowDude*thonk* but it has a sailfish os updates tab and I can check for updates12:03
r0kk3rzthats not how you OTA a ported device12:04
MeowDudeI might switch to the msm8960jbbl build if it has working headphone jack12:04
elrosMeowDude: you can't just switch12:04
elrosI told you what to do with jack12:04
MeowDudethat sounds EXACTLY link how OTA works, seeing as how none of my other sailfish devices have that tab12:04
MeowDudealso why not? I am on JBBL, also yeah elros, I am gonna SSH real quick, I finally figured out how to ssh with putty12:05
r0kk3rzsounds, sure, but its not :)12:05
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r0kk3rzit'd be nice if it worked like that, because thats how official devices work12:05
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MeowDudegod damnit I hate my PC so much12:06
MeowDudeI am gonna have to bust out the ethernet cord since putty thinks it needs internet to ssh12:07
elrosI told you xt897 and xt907 have different partition layout. I was thinking about splitting moto_msm8960_jbbl long time ago but nobody was interested, now I am too lazy12:07
MeowDudeoh that explains the fact that the unified build wouldn't boot on my xt90712:09
elrosthey both use unified sources just different fixup mountpoints. Feel free to take care xt907's sailfish maintenance if you like12:11
MeowDudeelros: I am using puTTY on windows, I use usb IP on default port 2212:11
MeowDudeI might take that up elros12:12
MeowDudea fresh build would be... neat...12:12
elrosyeah it's almost ready. I just need to prepare new patch for jolla-camera12:13
MeowDudewhy putty no connect12:13
MeowDudeI am going to have to do this in a couple hours12:14
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elrosMeowDude: you can propbably fix it yourself:
MeowDudeoh boy that is some next level developer stuff12:22
MeowDudeso juicy. This requires me to start development for xt907 though, and I am already setting up build environments for grouper and manta... meh, a third one can't hurt12:23
MeowDudemaybe Mister_Magister can apply this to his flo build12:24
Mister_MagisterMeowDude: You can still think i'm idiot i dont care12:26
MeowDudewhy would you think that I think you are an idiot?12:26
Mister_Magister[13:24] <MeowDude> maybe Mister_Magister can apply this to his flo build12:26
MeowDudeyeah so? I was trying to help12:27
Mister_Magisterit it was that easy i would do that long time ago?12:27
MeowDudeI figured you just didn't think it was that important and you were busy fixing other things12:27
MeowDudeI had never heard of this etherpad website until now12:28
MeowDudeThis entire Sailfish OS porting situation is so complicated, I wish it were easier12:29
malMeowDude: you should have seen how it was like 2-3 year ago12:32
MeowDudeIt was worse!?12:32
malquite much12:32
MeowDudeoh well, I hope it gets better in the future. And I hope Jolla releases more devices and starts selling hardware more12:32
r0kk3rzcomplicated things are complicated, news at 1112:34
Mister_Magistermal: is right lol12:36
Mister_Magisternow porting is easy af12:36
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r0kk3rztheres still a few danger zones, like exynos processors and a few bluetooth chips12:37
MeowDude>tfw porting to exynos12:37
Mister_Magister>jolla >selling hardware. Are you comming from 2014?12:38
MeowDudethen again exynos in general is garbage to work with12:38
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: lets talk about my bluetooth and audio issues :D12:38
MeowDudeyeah sounds silly now that I think about it... but they definitely need to advertise more12:38
r0kk3rzjolla doesnt make hardware anymore12:39
MeowDudemost basic android rommers and even a handful of enthusiasts have never heard of Sailfish OS12:39
MeowDudeyeah it is risky but software, they could still work on. The lack of recognition hurts them in more ways than one12:39
r0kk3rzyeah i agree, its something of a vicious cycle12:40
r0kk3rznobody knows about sailfish, so no OEMs want to take the risk12:40
r0kk3rzbut in many ways sailfish isnt really ready for prime-time anyway12:40
MeowDudeand so forth and so forth, what Jolla needs to do is look at what happened to Windows Mobile and try to avoid what they did. Alien dalvik is neat and all but a Jolla Made alternative, even if buggy would be a great step12:41
MeowDudeI don't know, there are some VERY stable community ports, and I would like to think actual Jolla employees getting paid to port could do even better (or at least do it faster)12:42
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MeowDudeGod seeing all those red squares in the samsung section is just plain intimidating, how come exynos is so hard to develop for? doesn't samsung release source for all the older devices (like say, the Galaxy SIII?)12:43
malsamsung also has qcom devices, those are not that difficult to port12:45
MeowDudeYeah, having a qcom SoC in your device is a blessing, I would replace my Nexus 10 with a Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 just for Sailfish but the screen resolution drop is extreme (2560x1560 to 1280x800)12:47
r0kk3rzMeowDude: yes theres no shortage of armchair CEOs suggesting what jolla should/shouldnt do :)12:47
r0kk3rztheir current strategy seems to be working for the most part12:48
MeowDudeYou have to admit though, the entire Sailfish OS situation is VERY similar to another now dead OS *cough cough* Windows Mobile *cough cough*12:48
MeowDudeyeah, slow and safe is probably best for a startup company, at least for now... I just wish they were more known and had more app support (I cry for an official spotify app)12:48
r0kk3rzand BBOS, and ubuntu touch, and webos .etc12:48
MeowDudeI hope SFOS can succeed where they didn't12:49
MeowDudealso mal, you are developing for the GTab 4 10.1 right?12:49
r0kk3rztheir main selling point at the moment is not being American12:49
MeowDudethats silly, america is home to some of the most loved companies12:50
malMeowDude: yes, although I haven't worked on that recently12:50
MeowDudeyeah I can't find a download link or page for it, but I see it in the adaptations page. It looks like a solid build (seeing all that green), why not release publicly?12:51
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mala bit too perfectionist12:52
MeowDudeI think the average joe would absolutely swoon over even a bug filled alpha build for the tab 10.1, I have yet to see sailfish OS on a large tablet12:53
MeowDudeat this points having sailfish os on my Nexus 10 makes more sense than to have it for grouper12:53
MeowDudeohfuck sailfish os for galaxy tab 2 10.1, maybe I will buy a tablet this day12:55
r0kk3rzMeowDude: yeah, but thats the only reason why the russian and chinese governments are investing in sailfish12:55
Mister_Magistersamsung tablets are shit lol12:56
Mister_Magisterlike whole samsung12:56
MeowDudenot all true, my Nexus 10 is god tier and its technically a samgsung tablet12:56
MeowDudealso the novelty would be having sailfish os on a big screen, the 143ppi is off putting though... I could probably find one for 100$12:56
MeowDudewew a galaxy tab 2 is 200$ AUD, and that is for the wifi only model. Not worth it at all. *shakes fist* curse you australia and your sky high prices!!!13:03
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r0kk3rzyeah i cant say i miss that part of aus :)13:06
MeowDudeI miss the US. A Gtab 2 10.1 is only 50$ in the US, some were listed for 30$ as bid13:09
MeowDudeeven with international shipping it is still half the price of domestic, you watch, when amazon gets here, this shit will finally end13:10
r0kk3rzmaybe, if the prices are indeed just gouging13:11
MeowDudeeven if they don't drop, just buying from amazon will at least be an option13:12
MeowDudethis is just ridiculous, I bought my OG Nexus 7 for 30$ and can sell it for 3x that here13:12
r0kk3rzid expect import taxes and GST to make a fair chunk of the difference13:13
r0kk3rzplus its a small market, so companies want to make enough money for them to even bother13:14
MeowDudeno no no, amazon is actually setting up ware houses HERE in australia, so we don't have to deal with that stupid shit anymore13:14
MeowDudegod I miss being able to just pick up 2012 hardware for on the cheap so much13:14
r0kk3rzyes i know13:17
r0kk3rzbut all of those things are still relevant13:17
r0kk3rznobody is going to suddenly start making electronics in australia because amazon set up a warehouse13:18
r0kk3rzthus, they will be imported and taxed13:18
MeowDudeI hate buying stuff here so much13:22
MeowDudeat least stuff on gumtree is a bit cheaper13:22
r0kk3rzif its cheaper to pay for shipping from the us, then just do that lol13:24
r0kk3rzi certainly did that for a while when the AUD was trading at around USD$1.1013:25
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MeowDudethe problem is the time it takes to get here, my tab 2 would get here on january 27th13:26
r0kk3rzpatience young padawan13:30
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NotKit<r0kk3rz> if it has ota, then you can ota to the latest13:36
NotKitdoesn't it need to be explicitly compiled for specific version in testing for OTA?13:37
r0kk3rzit'll need the latest target in the testing repo13:40
r0kk3rzbut iirc thats it13:40
r0kk3rzunless theres required kernel changes13:41
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MeowDudeI am getting a silly (and probably minor) error where HABUILD_SDK setups $DEVICE twice14:22
MeowDudeit says env_setup for manta twice in terminal and as such I see HABUILD_SDK [manta] HABUILD_SDK [manta]"14:23
Mister_MagisterMeowDude: that only means as always you did something wrong and we will magicall not look into your pc14:23
MeowDude>as always14:23
MeowDudeIs it even a big deal?14:23
Mister_Magisteryou added something twice to .hadk files14:24
MeowDudecan I just remove it?14:24
Mister_Magisterofcourse you'll break something doing that probably so make backup14:25
MeowDudethis is a new VM for manta, and I doubt that, I think Ive got the hang of this since this is my only problem14:25
MeowDudelet me just take a looksee in hadk to see what file to delete the duplicate lines from14:25
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MeowDudethis is odd, I am in $HOME but I don't see .hadk.env or any of the other files (and yes, hidden files is on)14:29
MeowDudeI ran echo $HOME and I am in the right directory14:29
MeowDudeah here it is14:30
MeowDudeyay problem solved! I am learning finally!14:31
MeowDudeMister_Magister: Looks like I finally did something without help. this is a good feel.14:34
Mister_Magister*cough* without help *cough* *cough*14:35
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MeowDudewhat? You didn't really help me14:35
MeowDudeI looked in hadk for the file that chroot used on start up, and I removed the double entry using the BEST text editing tool, nano14:35
Mister_Magisterthen why you asked?14:36
MeowDudenano > cat14:36
MeowDudeI figured it'd be much more complicated then it actually was14:36
Mister_Magistercat is for getting content not editing it14:36
MeowDudenano is just as good for that14:36
Mister_Magisternope its not its for something different14:36
Mister_Magisterand also i told you which files to change and what to change lol whatever14:36
Mister_Magisternext time dont ask if you know answer lol14:37
MeowDudeagree to disagree, in my mind nano will always be superior. No you didn't, you said .hadk files, the file to change was mersdkchroot, and again I figured it'd be super complex or something so I asked before actually looking myself14:37
Mister_Magisteragain if you did know how to fix that why you asked then?14:38
Mister_Magisterand again cat is not for modifying files its for getting file content to stdout14:39
MeowDudeb-but... nano..., also I didn't know how to fix when I asked, If I had known how to fix I wouldn't have asked14:40
MeowDudeHey wait you did help me, you told me I made a double entry... thanks *thumbs up* :D14:41
Mister_Magister*rolls eyes*14:41
Mister_Magisteri wanna see you greping nano lol14:42
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MeowDudeI really want to buy a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 but that display is off putting... 149ppi is just such a drop from the 300ppi my eyes are accustomed too14:46
r0kk3rzyou really want a sfos tablet huh14:49
MeowDudeI have a Nexus 7 2013 with sfos (thank you mister magister), but a big tablet would be the best14:49
MeowDudeSailfish OS on my 10.1 inch Nexus 10 would be god tier14:49
MeowDudenot to mention a lot of people still use the nexus 10 and a sailfish os build would probably be quite popular14:50
MeowDudeoy, I have ran repo sync for the night, it is time for me to rest. chrome remote desktop is the best thing that's ever happened to me. I can do all this from my chromebook in bed or on the couch14:52
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Mister_MagisterMeowDude: you know that vnc exists right?14:57
MeowDudewhat is vnc14:58
Mister_MagisterMeowDude: also poeple arent that easy. more people are interested in sfos for htc pico which nobody uses than moto x force14:59
MeowDudechrome remote desktop works fine, also that is fucking cool, sfos on the htc pico is really neat. if sfos is fast on that device than it is probs fast on most devices14:59
MeowDudewhat a neat proof of concept too14:59
MeowDudeI see you made a page on it, why did you use cm12.1 as a base? why not 10.1 or 11?15:00
Mister_Magisterwhy should i lol15:02
MeowDudeholy fug you got it to work15:02
Mister_Magisterand there is no hybris-10.115:02
Mister_Magisteryou dont get what i said15:03
Mister_Magisterwhat i said is that if poeple still use device that doesnt mean it will be popular15:03
MeowDudewait but my Nexus 7 2012 sfos 1.0.8 uses cm10.1 as a base... I got what you said, but the HTC pico build genuinly interests me.15:03
Mister_Magistercause 1.0.8 was hell long time ago?15:04
MeowDudeyeah but hybris 10.1 exists though right?15:04
Mister_Magisteroutdated as hell?15:04
MeowDudealso what happened, you never released the htc pico port15:04
MeowDudestill exists15:04
MeowDude*looks at you slyly*15:05
MeowDudewell you said there is no hybris 10.115:05
Mister_Magisterbecause if something is not maintained since year its useless and if its useless then it doesnt exists for me15:05
MeowDudealso I figured the port to HTC pico would be ancient15:05
mal10.1 should be only used if there is no newer android base available or for some reason the hardware support in the later bases is worse15:05
MeowDudegood point15:05
MeowDudeI am using cm11 for all my bases15:06
MeowDudesimply because I feel more comfortable staying as close to hadk as possible15:06
mal12.1 or 13.0 is preferred over 11.015:06
malmostly because 11.0 is so old15:06
Mister_Magisteryeah cm11 is beginnig to be outdated15:06
Mister_Magisteri think cm13 is most main these days and cm14 for newer phones15:07
MeowDudeI would have used 12.1 or 13 but I REALLY don't want to deviate from hadk15:08
Mister_Magistermal: hi btw how is your health?15:08
MeowDudeand the cm11 sourced for manta are still perfectly fine15:08
MeowDudemal are you sick?15:08
Mister_MagisterMeowDude: what are you even talking about "deviate from hadk"?15:08
malMister_Magister: there is no difference in porting between 11.0, 12.1 and 13.015:08
MeowDudehadk uses cm11 as the example15:08
MeowDudeI don't want to use anything else15:08
malMeowDude: ^15:08
malMeowDude: well the pdf has to use something as an example, it just happens to be the old one15:09
MeowDudeI know, this is just for my self so I can't blame my base for any issues I am having/will have (exynos port problems are bound to come)15:09
malMeowDude: only 14.1 has some differences to the older bases15:09
MeowDude14.1 would have been bad for manta, camera is broken along with headphone jack in that one15:10
MeowDudebut 13 would have been fine15:10
Mister_Magisterhadk is outdated before relase so15:10
malMeowDude: how well is the 11.0 android maintained for that device?15:10
MeowDudewell, its a bit old but repo sync works fine and Snapshot M11 is very fast and stable15:11
malMister_Magister: and to your question, same as before15:11
MeowDudeAnd I think there might still be Lineage OS 11 builds being made15:11
MeowDudeoh wait I am thinking of grouper15:11
Mister_Magistermal: i mean you had flu or something like that or am i wrong?15:12
malMister_Magister: oh, that went away of course15:13
malMister_Magister: I meant my sleeping issues15:13
Mister_Magisteri considier it normal by now :D15:13
MeowDudegod I hate android oreo, the UI is so terrible now.15:14
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raandoom_MeowDude, you have problems with with 14.1 because of firmware maybe? lineage 14.1 for zuk z1 does not include firmware (at this moment maybe include already) and i must flash marshmallow firmware for 14.1 by myself, maybe in your case it will works too17:17
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Mister_Magister jusa: hi can you help me with fixing mic?19:04
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jusaMister_Magister: what's with mic? have you tried quirks=+input_atoi ?19:59
Mister_Magisternah sorry forgot that one20:00
Mister_Magisterjusa where should i put this20:02
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Mister_Magisterjusa: ?20:52
malI would assume in .pa file as a parameter to droid-card module20:53
malor actually you can use another file for that use which you see in the .pa file20:54
piggzit seems gone are the days of using a user/pass, and now apps must include a webserver to handle oauth :D20:58
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Mister_Magisterpiggz: sad true21:20
piggzfortunately, i found a lib to make it easier21:23
r0kk3rzpiggz: what app you making?21:24
piggzr0kk3rz: modiying laufhelden to add strava upload, hopefully a PR will be accepted21:25
piggzinteresting playing with web api's .. substantially different from porting21:28
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r0kk3rzyes i imagine so21:33
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Mister_Magistermal: jusa: nope that didnt help21:38
malMister_Magister: show what you tried21:45
Mister_Magistermal:  i tried what you said lol21:46
malMister_Magister: details21:46
malbecause you might have made some mistake21:46
Mister_Magisterload-module module-droid-card quirks=+input_atoi rate=48000 mute_routing_before=24576 mute_routing_after=409621:48
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Mister_Magistermal: ^^^21:51
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malMister_Magister: can't see anything obviously wrong21:56
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piggzany you guys know, if in a c++ class, you have a property that is a qvariantmap, how, in qml, do you access an item, that is in a sub variant map?22:49
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Mister_Magisterpiggz: dunno try different things? console.log it?22:59
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nik123got to chapter seven, and RPM fails spectacularely23:50
nik123RPM build errors: \n Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:23:51
nik123and then some files23:51
nik123I can't figure out what's wrong23:51
Mister_Magisteradd it to straggler files23:51
nik123I'm stupid23:52
nik123I missed the most obvious thing23:52
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