Sunday, 2018-10-28

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deicide-i don't have telegram07:57
deicide-as i said i'm coming from symbian07:57
deicide-an yeah i already chose to buy the os07:57
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T4<akaWolf> why do you decide to buy?09:49
T4<akaWolf> you dont even try this product...09:49
deicide-because support10:58
r0kk3rzits not that expensive and the community version isnt that up to date10:59
T4<akaWolf> Support of what kind?11:38
T4<akaWolf> You can always make a post at sjc without license11:38
T4<akaWolf> Tjc11:38
T4<akaWolf> For me in Russia it's quite expensive11:39
T4<akaWolf> Especially when Android is going for free11:40
T4<akaWolf> I would suggest to try community version first11:41
T4<akaWolf> And then decide about buying license11:41
T4<meierrom> Unfortunately most users really need ad :(11:44
T4<meierrom> If only we had working anbox.11:44
r0kk3rzi wonder if jolla will make the newer AD more available to ports11:47
deicide-50$ is nothing for me11:47
deicide-ofcourse android is free because you are the fucking product11:48
T4<akaWolf> @deicide- [50$ is nothing for me], =\11:48
T4<akaWolf> Euro11:49
deicide-60$ better?11:49
T4<meierrom> r0kk3rz: Are there signs for it? I don't see this happening ever.11:51
r0kk3rzwell jolla has almost completely remade alien dalvik with android 8.1 support11:52
r0kk3rzand apparently they get more rights to it11:52
r0kk3rzso who knows11:52
ghosalmartinr0kk3rz, themselves?11:52
r0kk3rzno idea on how involved myriad were in this11:52
r0kk3rzmy guess is not much11:53
T4<meierrom> r0kk3rz: AFAIK myriad has dropped support years ago.11:55
r0kk3rzyeah i dont think they're interested in it, so it'll be interesting to see how the legal side of this will work11:57
T4<meierrom> r0kk3rz: ad makes a great selling point. To give it out for free doesn't seem reasonable. Would be nice though!11:58
ghosalmartinif it was free i wonder how much difference it would make to ports and attracting people over from the android side12:01
T4<meierrom> The only way is the anbox way, I guess :(12:02
T4<meierrom> Imagine if we can come up with nemo/glacier/anbox working. This would be something :)12:06
malthere hasn't been much volunteers for anbox development, I cannot do everything myself12:12
T4<meierrom> Of course. It's bad but betters things will come! I strongly believe this! :)12:15
T4<akaWolf> what is current state of Anbox?12:15
T4<akaWolf> what else should be done?12:16
malI had it running on xperia x with the ability to play games etc12:16
T4<meierrom> @mal [I had it running on xperia x with the ability …], Sounds far better than what I thought!12:17
malwell I only tested using angry birds, that was te first I thought so I used that for testing12:18
T4<akaWolf> :D12:19
T4<akaWolf> I never played at Android...12:19
malactually the first time I ever played it, I had only tested like one minute before12:19
T4<meierrom> Mal: how is it doing with Whatsapp?12:20
malI haven't tried that12:21
r0kk3rzyeah that wont work12:22
T4<akaWolf> I use Chrome, F-Droid, Telegram, WhatsApp, Conversations, Signal, Yandex Transport, Yandex Maps, Yandex Metro, Yandex Weather, Yandex Money, YouTube Vanced12:22
T4<meierrom> r0kk3rz: Whatsapp can't work? Do you know why?12:24
T4<akaWolf> that's a needed minimal.. unfortunately I didnt get MicroG working at AD yet, so no banking apps...12:26
r0kk3rzno networking, no notifications, not sure about keyboard support12:27
T4<akaWolf> after deodexing AD just failed to start12:27
T4<akaWolf> who knows why12:27
T4<akaWolf> there are no logs12:27
T4<akaWolf> maybe someone knows how to get debug AD logs?12:28
malr0kk3rz: networking is working (at least it was), keyboard is just a matter of installing an apk, notifications not sure12:28
r0kk3rzmal: yeah an sfos update broke the iptables foo12:28
T4<akaWolf> we need to get integration of system keyboard with Android subsystem12:29
malr0kk3rz: yes, the fix for that is simple12:29
T4<akaWolf> and also notifications, calls and so on12:29
r0kk3rzbut Whatsapp needs to die in a fire12:29
malsame for many other things12:30
T4<akaWolf> I use WhatsApp for calls only12:30
malfor example twitter is like a cancer12:30
T4<akaWolf> all social networks12:30
kimmolimal is ranting... a good day then?12:30
T4<meierrom> r0kk3rz: yes, but it won't! :)12:30
T4<akaWolf> Instagram also12:30
r0kk3rzwhatsapp in particular though, we had *two* native clients that worked quite well12:32
r0kk3rzuntil the developers were threatened with legal action12:32
malkimmoli: quite normal day, which means a bad day in other people's definition, for me a good day is the rare exception12:33
T4<akaWolf> normal is bad12:33
kimmoliwell, not exceptionally bad day then.12:34
T4<meierrom> Mal: :)))12:34
malyesterday was bad12:35
T4<akaWolf> what, guys, do you use for calls?12:35
malnormal phone app?12:35
malunlimited calls so it doesn't matter12:36
T4<akaWolf> no-no12:36
T4<akaWolf> phone calls in 2k19>12:36
T4<akaWolf> ?12:36
T4<meierrom> r0kk3rz: this is one more reason to make anbox work with Whatsapp.12:36
r0kk3rzno, its a reason to say away from whatsapp :P12:36
r0kk3rzbut, if you want to make anbox work, then go ahead12:37
mal@akaWolf is there any benefit of using some app for calls?12:37
T4<akaWolf> at least security; also internet for calls is cheap as fuck12:38
r0kk3rzfacebook gets to know who you're calling ;)12:38
T4<akaWolf> no need in phone calls in 2k19, I think12:38
T4<meierrom> r0kk3rz: true, so let's change the user's then. :)12:38
T4<akaWolf> we need only internet...12:38
T4<akaWolf> why even use different protocol for calls12:39
T4<akaWolf> all should go through internet12:39
T4<akaWolf> unification12:39
T4<akaWolf> you are even free to build distributed network with calls supported12:40
T4<akaWolf> like Tox12:40
T4<abhishek_0> :)12:42
T4<abhishek_0> it is festival season12:42
r0kk3rzyeah time to ban T4 i think, too many people from telegram here now12:43
T4<abhishek_0> hey!!12:43
T4<akaWolf> maybe time to go to Tg?)12:44
T4<akaWolf> btw you can remove in your client T4 part12:44
T4<akaWolf> by using scripts or something else12:45
T4<akaWolf> depends at your client12:45
T4<abhishek_0> lol wut ?12:45
r0kk3rzyou mean /ignore T4 yes i suppose12:47
T4<akaWolf> no, replace «<T4>: nick» part with nick12:49
T4<akaWolf> for example, in irssi that's quite simple to do12:49
malwouldn't that make highlighting even more difficult because you wouldn't know which format to use12:50
akaWolfjust add @12:51
akaWolffor indicating Tg nicks12:51
r0kk3rznah, better to just get rid of the bot12:51
akaWolfwhy you hate Tg so much..12:52
malwhat is wrong with IRC?12:52
T4<abhishek_0> at some point i thought to setup an irc bridge exclusive to myself , for irc channels which i visit regularly12:53
T4<meierrom> To set up this bridge was a great idea! Truly!12:55
akaWolfI like IRC, but it's quite  non-reliable to use from phone even with balancer/in screen12:55
akaWolfIRC was made without such use-case in mind12:56
r0kk3rzi use matrix for that purpose, its irc integration is much better than this TG bot thing12:56
akaWolfno delivery garantee12:56
akaWolfI didnt see good Matrix client12:57
akaWolf(written at native Qt)12:57
akaWolflike telegram-desktop12:57
r0kk3rzcheck out quaternion12:59
akaWolfI mean all Matrix clients are far from Telegram's one13:00
malI just use irssi+screen, works fine, I should setup mosh so I use that instead of normal ssh13:00
r0kk3rzmosh doesnt work so good with fingerterm....13:00
r0kk3rzit garbles quite a lot of things13:00
akaWolfr0kk3rz: I see, did you try Telegram desktop?13:00
r0kk3rzwhy would i use telegram for anything13:00
malr0kk3rz: hmm, interesting13:01
akaWolfquaternion is like student's work :)13:01
r0kk3rzbecause it is, no surprise13:01
akaWolfmal: I use irssi+screen so far, mosh is a bit better, but still that's not solve the problem13:02
akaWolfthat's why more complex protocols are needed13:02
akaWolfr0kk3rz: Telegram is a mature application13:02
akaWolfso no, no Matrix for me... yet13:03
kimmolicommuni-sailfish for irc13:05
r0kk3rzakaWolf: its maturely terrible, sure :)13:06
akaWolfat least desktop app is fast, looks nice and do all what I need from IM13:07
T4<meierrom> r0kk3rz: Telegram syncs all my devices, supports replies reducing misunderstandings, gives me easy access to historic discussions and it's simply easy and comfortable to use. No sales pitch! :)13:09
r0kk3rzmatrix does all that too13:09
T4<akaWolf> Lack of quality clients13:10
T4<meierrom> OK, cool! Didn't know! 👍13:10
kimmoliplease, use #imwars channel13:11
r0kk3rzanyway, enough of this off topic discussion13:11
T4<akaWolf> Agree13:11
r0kk3rzall in favour of banning the T4 bot say aye!13:11
T4<meierrom> +113:11
T4<meierrom> Oh, my +1 was for stopping   OT and not the bot! :)13:15
ghosalmartinmal: regarding anbox dev, maybe were just noobs :P13:16
malghosalmartin: it's not really that difficult, quite similar to porting13:20
ghosalmartinmal: may have to take another look again then13:20
malghosalmartin: I'll try to get my latest rebase working first13:21
ghosalmartinive rebased my nexus 5x ontop of hybris 15.1 as well with varying results :P13:22
malghosalmartin: what problems do you have?13:22
ghosalmartinmal: if I go to any app in the ui it all restarts13:22
malghosalmartin: I think I might know the reason, point me to your kernel sources13:23
ghosalmartinactually to be more precise13:24
ghosalmartinmal: are you looking for this
malhmm, so not the reason I though, you already had the oom fix13:26
ghosalmartinyeah tis very odd13:26
ghosalmartini may actually try to revert it and see if any changes13:26
malghosalmartin: make journal persistent and get logs13:26
ghosalmartinwill do13:26
ghosalmartinjust charging atm13:26
malghosalmartin: btw, there is now possibility for bt on 15.1 which should be independent on the chip13:28
ghosalmartinmal: yaaa i saw bluedroid gonna get it installed once I get a stable UI, i take it theres a similar interface for rild?13:29
mal check nile config repo for the needed ofono config changes13:30
ghosalmartinonce I get to UI on my Pixel XL i might upgrade it to P and see how project treble is holding up13:30
ghosalmartinmal: using the surfaceflinger plugin, do you notice that the drag bounderies are different13:31
malhmm, what do you mean?13:31
ghosalmartinso when the ui is loaded, when I try the swipes and hte pulley menus, they feel wrong compared to using hwcomposer13:32
ghosalmartinit was the same on my P913:32
malthose can be configured13:32
ghosalmartinahh okays13:32
ghosalmartinmal: seems reasonable13:36
ghosalmartinmal: just straight up corruption13:40
ghosalmartini cant see the ffmemless plugin breaking it?13:41
malghosalmartin: maybe try without that vibra driver, did you add memless yourself or was it already available?13:46
ghosalmartinmal: added it myself in some weird way, i cant actually remember if its working or not or what13:46
ghosalmartinmal: is it just the standard that should be used? and standard libhybris from mer-hybris?13:59
malghosalmartin: libhybris needs to be the android8-initial branch14:05
ghosalmartinmal: ah so I was right to use that branch14:05
ghosalmartini was hoping it was cause I wasnt using master14:05
ghosalmartinmal: doesnt this need to point to android8-initial as well?14:10
malghosalmartin: why not use the already packaged branch ?14:11
ghosalmartinmal: cause I needs to enable the nfc stuff14:11
ghosalmartinmal: ah nevermind following it in github it seems fine14:12
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ghosalmartinmal: would valgrind be a way to try and debug this?14:39
malghosalmartin: did you already try without memless?14:54
ghosalmartinmal: yah15:08
ghosalmartinwell i removed the config file, unless you mean kernel it?15:08
ghosalmartinfor kenrel it was already enabled without me adding anything15:08
malok, any difference in journal log?15:10
malalso grab dmesg and logcat15:11
ghosalmartinmal: hmm weird after enogu restarts, now the call app works15:20
ghosalmartinand then it just randomly restarts15:21
ghosalmartinlemme get a stable dmesg and logcat15:21
ghosalmartinmal: logcat
ghosalmartindmesg has no changes15:26
ghosalmartinmal: is there a way to disable rild?15:31
ghosalmartinnvm the faq provides15:35
malghosalmartin: just to be sure, did you added rc files to config repo? I think you must have because you got this far15:44
ghosalmartinmal: i have indeed, am trying ot clean up dmesg errors atm to eliminate any problems15:44
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Mister_Magisterwhen i search in logs and see them ending with question from myself im scaried20:57
Mister_Magistermal: you got a second?21:10
Mister_Magistermal: i need to compile ./frameworks/av/services/audiopolicy so i need to add it somewhere to make buildsystem build it21:13
Mister_Magisterbut i forgot where21:13
Mister_Magisteri mean i have error like "No rule to make target `/home/foidbgen/hadk/out/target/product/kinzie/obj_arm/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libaudiopolicyservice_intermediates/export_includes"21:14
Mister_Magisterand i remember i needed to add libaudiopolicy's somewhere but i cant remember where21:14
Mister_Magistermal: no idea?21:19
Mister_Magisteroh found it21:21
Mister_Magisterthanks kimmoli21:21
malwhy do you need to build it?21:24
malyou mean the usual patch by kimmoli?21:24
Mister_Magistermal: ye but its not building but i have found you helping me in logs so ill try to work it out21:29
ghosalmartinmal: any idea if the latest nile has been tested with
malghosalmartin: not sure, why?21:31
ghosalmartinmal: curious if lipstick with surfaceflinger is the problem and if a new version of lipstick is the reason for the problem21:31
ghosalmartinthis is a successful app start but after staying on the screen for 30 secs or so lipstick craps oiut21:32
ghosalmartinhmmm rndis_qc seems like it might be the problem21:34
ghosalmartinyeah things seem to start for a scond or two when usb isnt connected21:35
ghosalmartinah not anymore :'(21:35

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