| *** ChanServ sets mode: +v T4 | 02:28 | |
| deicide- | i don't have telegram | 07:57 |
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| deicide- | as i said i'm coming from symbian | 07:57 |
| deicide- | an yeah i already chose to buy the os | 07:57 |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +v T4 | 08:24 | |
| T4 | <akaWolf> why do you decide to buy? | 09:49 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> you dont even try this product... | 09:49 |
| deicide- | because support | 10:58 |
| r0kk3rz | its not that expensive and the community version isnt that up to date | 10:59 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> Support of what kind? | 11:38 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> You can always make a post at sjc without license | 11:38 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> Tjc | 11:38 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> For me in Russia it's quite expensive | 11:39 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> Especially when Android is going for free | 11:40 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> I would suggest to try community version first | 11:41 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> And then decide about buying license | 11:41 |
| T4 | <meierrom> Unfortunately most users really need ad :( | 11:44 |
| T4 | <meierrom> If only we had working anbox. | 11:44 |
| r0kk3rz | i wonder if jolla will make the newer AD more available to ports | 11:47 |
| deicide- | 50$ is nothing for me | 11:47 |
| deicide- | ofcourse android is free because you are the fucking product | 11:48 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> @deicide- [50$ is nothing for me], =\ | 11:48 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> Euro | 11:49 |
| deicide- | 60$ better? | 11:49 |
| T4 | <meierrom> r0kk3rz: Are there signs for it? I don't see this happening ever. | 11:51 |
| r0kk3rz | well jolla has almost completely remade alien dalvik with android 8.1 support | 11:52 |
| r0kk3rz | and apparently they get more rights to it | 11:52 |
| r0kk3rz | so who knows | 11:52 |
| ghosalmartin | r0kk3rz, themselves? | 11:52 |
| r0kk3rz | no idea on how involved myriad were in this | 11:52 |
| r0kk3rz | my guess is not much | 11:53 |
| T4 | <meierrom> r0kk3rz: AFAIK myriad has dropped support years ago. | 11:55 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i dont think they're interested in it, so it'll be interesting to see how the legal side of this will work | 11:57 |
| T4 | <meierrom> r0kk3rz: ad makes a great selling point. To give it out for free doesn't seem reasonable. Would be nice though! | 11:58 |
| ghosalmartin | if it was free i wonder how much difference it would make to ports and attracting people over from the android side | 12:01 |
| T4 | <meierrom> The only way is the anbox way, I guess :( | 12:02 |
| T4 | <meierrom> Imagine if we can come up with nemo/glacier/anbox working. This would be something :) | 12:06 |
| mal | there hasn't been much volunteers for anbox development, I cannot do everything myself | 12:12 |
| T4 | <meierrom> Of course. It's bad but betters things will come! I strongly believe this! :) | 12:15 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> what is current state of Anbox? | 12:15 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> what else should be done? | 12:16 |
| mal | I had it running on xperia x with the ability to play games etc | 12:16 |
| T4 | <meierrom> @mal [I had it running on xperia x with the ability …], Sounds far better than what I thought! | 12:17 |
| mal | well I only tested using angry birds, that was te first I thought so I used that for testing | 12:18 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> :D | 12:19 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> I never played at Android... | 12:19 |
| mal | actually the first time I ever played it, I had only tested like one minute before | 12:19 |
| T4 | <meierrom> Mal: how is it doing with Whatsapp? | 12:20 |
| mal | I haven't tried that | 12:21 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah that wont work | 12:22 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> I use Chrome, F-Droid, Telegram, WhatsApp, Conversations, Signal, Yandex Transport, Yandex Maps, Yandex Metro, Yandex Weather, Yandex Money, YouTube Vanced | 12:22 |
| T4 | <meierrom> r0kk3rz: Whatsapp can't work? Do you know why? | 12:24 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> that's a needed minimal.. unfortunately I didnt get MicroG working at AD yet, so no banking apps... | 12:26 |
| r0kk3rz | no networking, no notifications, not sure about keyboard support | 12:27 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> after deodexing AD just failed to start | 12:27 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> who knows why | 12:27 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> there are no logs | 12:27 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> maybe someone knows how to get debug AD logs? | 12:28 |
| mal | r0kk3rz: networking is working (at least it was), keyboard is just a matter of installing an apk, notifications not sure | 12:28 |
| r0kk3rz | mal: yeah an sfos update broke the iptables foo | 12:28 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> we need to get integration of system keyboard with Android subsystem | 12:29 |
| mal | r0kk3rz: yes, the fix for that is simple | 12:29 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> and also notifications, calls and so on | 12:29 |
| r0kk3rz | but Whatsapp needs to die in a fire | 12:29 |
| mal | true | 12:29 |
| mal | same for many other things | 12:30 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> I use WhatsApp for calls only | 12:30 |
| mal | for example twitter is like a cancer | 12:30 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> all social networks | 12:30 |
| kimmoli | mal is ranting... a good day then? | 12:30 |
| T4 | <meierrom> r0kk3rz: yes, but it won't! :) | 12:30 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> Instagram also | 12:30 |
| r0kk3rz | whatsapp in particular though, we had *two* native clients that worked quite well | 12:32 |
| r0kk3rz | until the developers were threatened with legal action | 12:32 |
| mal | kimmoli: quite normal day, which means a bad day in other people's definition, for me a good day is the rare exception | 12:33 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> normal is bad | 12:33 |
| kimmoli | well, not exceptionally bad day then. | 12:34 |
| T4 | <meierrom> Mal: :))) | 12:34 |
| mal | yesterday was bad | 12:35 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> what, guys, do you use for calls? | 12:35 |
| mal | normal phone app? | 12:35 |
| kimmoli | phone | 12:36 |
| mal | unlimited calls so it doesn't matter | 12:36 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> no-no | 12:36 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> phone calls in 2k19> | 12:36 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> ? | 12:36 |
| T4 | <meierrom> r0kk3rz: this is one more reason to make anbox work with Whatsapp. | 12:36 |
| r0kk3rz | no, its a reason to say away from whatsapp :P | 12:36 |
| r0kk3rz | but, if you want to make anbox work, then go ahead | 12:37 |
| mal | @akaWolf is there any benefit of using some app for calls? | 12:37 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> at least security; also internet for calls is cheap as fuck | 12:38 |
| r0kk3rz | facebook gets to know who you're calling ;) | 12:38 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> no need in phone calls in 2k19, I think | 12:38 |
| T4 | <meierrom> r0kk3rz: true, so let's change the user's then. :) | 12:38 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> we need only internet... | 12:38 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> why even use different protocol for calls | 12:39 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> all should go through internet | 12:39 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> unification | 12:39 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> you are even free to build distributed network with calls supported | 12:40 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> like Tox | 12:40 |
| T4 | <abhishek_0> :) | 12:42 |
| T4 | <abhishek_0> it is festival season | 12:42 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah time to ban T4 i think, too many people from telegram here now | 12:43 |
| T4 | <abhishek_0> hey!! | 12:43 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> maybe time to go to Tg?) | 12:44 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> btw you can remove in your client T4 part | 12:44 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> by using scripts or something else | 12:45 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> depends at your client | 12:45 |
| T4 | <abhishek_0> lol wut ? | 12:45 |
| r0kk3rz | you mean /ignore T4 yes i suppose | 12:47 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> no, replace «<T4>: nick» part with nick | 12:49 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> for example, in irssi that's quite simple to do | 12:49 |
| mal | wouldn't that make highlighting even more difficult because you wouldn't know which format to use | 12:50 |
| akaWolf | just add @ | 12:51 |
| akaWolf | for indicating Tg nicks | 12:51 |
| r0kk3rz | nah, better to just get rid of the bot | 12:51 |
| akaWolf | why you hate Tg so much.. | 12:52 |
| mal | what is wrong with IRC? | 12:52 |
| T4 | <abhishek_0> at some point i thought to setup an irc bridge exclusive to myself , for irc channels which i visit regularly | 12:53 |
| T4 | <meierrom> To set up this bridge was a great idea! Truly! | 12:55 |
| akaWolf | I like IRC, but it's quite non-reliable to use from phone even with balancer/in screen | 12:55 |
| akaWolf | IRC was made without such use-case in mind | 12:56 |
| r0kk3rz | i use matrix for that purpose, its irc integration is much better than this TG bot thing | 12:56 |
| akaWolf | no delivery garantee | 12:56 |
| akaWolf | I didnt see good Matrix client | 12:57 |
| akaWolf | (written at native Qt) | 12:57 |
| akaWolf | like telegram-desktop | 12:57 |
| r0kk3rz | check out quaternion | 12:59 |
| akaWolf | I mean all Matrix clients are far from Telegram's one | 13:00 |
| mal | I just use irssi+screen, works fine, I should setup mosh so I use that instead of normal ssh | 13:00 |
| r0kk3rz | mosh doesnt work so good with fingerterm.... | 13:00 |
| r0kk3rz | it garbles quite a lot of things | 13:00 |
| akaWolf | r0kk3rz: I see, did you try Telegram desktop? | 13:00 |
| r0kk3rz | nope | 13:00 |
| r0kk3rz | why would i use telegram for anything | 13:00 |
| mal | r0kk3rz: hmm, interesting | 13:01 |
| akaWolf | quaternion is like student's work :) | 13:01 |
| r0kk3rz | because it is, no surprise | 13:01 |
| akaWolf | mal: I use irssi+screen so far, mosh is a bit better, but still that's not solve the problem | 13:02 |
| akaWolf | that's why more complex protocols are needed | 13:02 |
| akaWolf | r0kk3rz: Telegram is a mature application | 13:02 |
| akaWolf | so no, no Matrix for me... yet | 13:03 |
| kimmoli | communi-sailfish for irc | 13:05 |
| r0kk3rz | akaWolf: its maturely terrible, sure :) | 13:06 |
| akaWolf | at least desktop app is fast, looks nice and do all what I need from IM | 13:07 |
| T4 | <meierrom> r0kk3rz: Telegram syncs all my devices, supports replies reducing misunderstandings, gives me easy access to historic discussions and it's simply easy and comfortable to use. No sales pitch! :) | 13:09 |
| r0kk3rz | matrix does all that too | 13:09 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> Lack of quality clients | 13:10 |
| T4 | <meierrom> OK, cool! Didn't know! 👍 | 13:10 |
| kimmoli | please, use #imwars channel | 13:11 |
| r0kk3rz | anyway, enough of this off topic discussion | 13:11 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> Agree | 13:11 |
| r0kk3rz | all in favour of banning the T4 bot say aye! | 13:11 |
| T4 | <meierrom> +1 | 13:11 |
| T4 | <meierrom> Oh, my +1 was for stopping OT and not the bot! :) | 13:15 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: regarding anbox dev, maybe were just noobs :P | 13:16 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: it's not really that difficult, quite similar to porting | 13:20 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: may have to take another look again then | 13:20 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: I'll try to get my latest rebase working first | 13:21 |
| ghosalmartin | ive rebased my nexus 5x ontop of hybris 15.1 as well with varying results :P | 13:22 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: what problems do you have? | 13:22 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: if I go to any app in the ui it all restarts | 13:22 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: I think I might know the reason, point me to your kernel sources | 13:23 |
| ghosalmartin | mal https://github.com/ghosalmartin/android_kernel_lge_bullhead/ | 13:23 |
| ghosalmartin | actually https://github.com/ghosalmartin/android_kernel_lge_bullhead/tree/hybris-15.1 to be more precise | 13:24 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: are you looking for this https://github.com/ghosalmartin/android_kernel_lge_bullhead/commit/4aabd7cfd4f86a5d1b44c156b6654d19a199eef4? | 13:25 |
| mal | hmm, so not the reason I though, you already had the oom fix | 13:26 |
| mal | yep | 13:26 |
| ghosalmartin | yeah tis very odd | 13:26 |
| ghosalmartin | i may actually try to revert it and see if any changes | 13:26 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: make journal persistent and get logs | 13:26 |
| ghosalmartin | will do | 13:26 |
| ghosalmartin | just charging atm | 13:26 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: btw, there is now possibility for bt on 15.1 which should be independent on the chip | 13:28 |
| mal | *of | 13:28 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: yaaa i saw bluedroid gonna get it installed once I get a stable UI, i take it theres a similar interface for rild? | 13:29 |
| mal | yes | 13:29 |
| mal | https://github.com/mer-hybris/ofono-ril-binder-plugin check nile config repo for the needed ofono config changes | 13:30 |
| ghosalmartin | once I get to UI on my Pixel XL i might upgrade it to P and see how project treble is holding up | 13:30 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: using the surfaceflinger plugin, do you notice that the drag bounderies are different | 13:31 |
| mal | hmm, what do you mean? | 13:31 |
| ghosalmartin | so when the ui is loaded, when I try the swipes and hte pulley menus, they feel wrong compared to using hwcomposer | 13:32 |
| ghosalmartin | it was the same on my P9 | 13:32 |
| mal | those can be configured | 13:32 |
| ghosalmartin | ahh okays | 13:32 |
| mal | maybe https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-config-sony-nile/blob/517cf7acc0a7ca36a4e6587220a23caa97364aca/sparse/etc/dconf/db/vendor.d/lipstick-configs-pioneer.txt#L5 | 13:34 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: seems reasonable | 13:36 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: https://pastebin.com/29hgmL2m just straight up corruption | 13:40 |
| ghosalmartin | i cant see the ffmemless plugin breaking it? | 13:41 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: maybe try without that vibra driver, did you add memless yourself or was it already available? | 13:46 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: added it myself in some weird way, i cant actually remember if its working or not or what | 13:46 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: is it just the standard https://github.com/mer-hybris/qt5-qpa-surfaceflinger-plugin.git that should be used? and standard libhybris from mer-hybris? | 13:59 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: libhybris needs to be the android8-initial branch | 14:05 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: ah so I was right to use that branch | 14:05 |
| ghosalmartin | damn | 14:05 |
| ghosalmartin | i was hoping it was cause I wasnt using master | 14:05 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: doesnt this need to point to android8-initial as well? | 14:10 |
| ghosalmartin | https://github.com/ghosalmartin/libhybris-1/blob/fc0a260deb73adcb2d45adcb49805531bd11bc8b/.gitmodules | 14:10 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: why not use the already packaged branch https://github.com/mer-hybris/libhybris/tree/android8-initial ? | 14:11 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: cause I needs to enable the nfc stuff | 14:11 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: ah nevermind following it in github it seems fine | 14:12 |
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| ghosalmartin | mal: would valgrind be a way to try and debug this? | 14:39 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: did you already try without memless? | 14:54 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: yah | 15:08 |
| ghosalmartin | well i removed the config file, unless you mean kernel it? | 15:08 |
| ghosalmartin | for kenrel it was already enabled without me adding anything | 15:08 |
| mal | ok, any difference in journal log? | 15:10 |
| mal | also grab dmesg and logcat | 15:11 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: hmm weird after enogu restarts, now the call app works | 15:20 |
| ghosalmartin | and then it just randomly restarts | 15:21 |
| ghosalmartin | lemme get a stable dmesg and logcat | 15:21 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: logcat https://pastebin.com/rgufYThi | 15:26 |
| ghosalmartin | dmesg has no changes | 15:26 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: is there a way to disable rild? | 15:31 |
| ghosalmartin | nvm the faq provides | 15:35 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: just to be sure, did you added rc files to config repo? I think you must have because you got this far | 15:44 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: i have indeed, am trying ot clean up dmesg errors atm to eliminate any problems | 15:44 |
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| Mister_Magister | when i search in logs and see them ending with question from myself im scaried | 20:57 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: you got a second? | 21:10 |
| mal | what? | 21:12 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: i need to compile ./frameworks/av/services/audiopolicy so i need to add it somewhere to make buildsystem build it | 21:13 |
| Mister_Magister | but i forgot where | 21:13 |
| Mister_Magister | i mean i have error like "No rule to make target `/home/foidbgen/hadk/out/target/product/kinzie/obj_arm/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libaudiopolicyservice_intermediates/export_includes" | 21:14 |
| Mister_Magister | and i remember i needed to add libaudiopolicy's Android.mk somewhere but i cant remember where | 21:14 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: no idea? | 21:19 |
| Mister_Magister | oh found it | 21:21 |
| Mister_Magister | thanks kimmoli | 21:21 |
| mal | why do you need to build it? | 21:24 |
| mal | you mean the usual patch by kimmoli? | 21:24 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: ye but its not building but i have found you helping me in logs so ill try to work it out | 21:29 |
| Mister_Magister | somehow | 21:29 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: any idea if the latest nile has been tested with 2.2.1.8? | 21:30 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: not sure, why? | 21:31 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: curious if lipstick with surfaceflinger is the problem and if a new version of lipstick is the reason for the problem | 21:31 |
| ghosalmartin | this is a successful app start https://pastebin.com/YCSSzM7i but after staying on the screen for 30 secs or so lipstick craps oiut | 21:32 |
| ghosalmartin | hmmm rndis_qc seems like it might be the problem | 21:34 |
| ghosalmartin | yeah things seem to start for a scond or two when usb isnt connected | 21:35 |
| ghosalmartin | ah not anymore :'( | 21:35 |
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