| pasik | https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2019/04/01/running-android-next-to-wayland/ | 08:28 |
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| T4 | <NotKit> is it 1st April joke or they basically reimplemented Anbox with systemd-nspawn? | 08:58 |
| T4 | <fredldotme> @NotKit [is it 1st April joke or they basically reimple …], the latter | 08:58 |
| T4 | <fredldotme> also it's already on Android 9.0 | 08:59 |
| T4 | <birdzhang> seems not 1st April joke, https://gitlab.collabora.com/spurv/device_freedesktop/blob/master/spurv/launch-container.sh | 09:01 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Hello, we are very interested in a port of Anbox for Sailfish and/or Nemo Mobile. Thanks for the post. | 09:02 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> I'll contact the company. | 09:03 |
| r0kk3rz | no doubt its in a similar state to anbox | 09:07 |
| r0kk3rz | or worse | 09:07 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> I have a question to the community porters: Our ODM has presented the model, that we would like to order for Sailfish (and maybe for Nemo Mobile). Unfortunately the model has a notch, that disturbs the display. It's a very srupic fashion, that Apple has introduced. Is it possible to scale the screen output smaller for the hardware adaptio | 09:08 |
| T4 | n, that the notch and the round corners doesn't overlapp the content? Any suggestions? | 09:08 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> I mean stupic fashion | 09:09 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> [Edit] I mean stupid fashion | 09:09 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> My keyboard doesn't do, what I whant 😊 | 09:09 |
| r0kk3rz | i dont think we have notch support | 09:13 |
| r0kk3rz | given the fad seems to be short lived, im not sure its worth it either | 09:14 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> I think about a solution, that just scales the screen output of Sailfish in the way, that the notch and round corners are invisble. The screenoutput would have just a smaller hight. The user wouldn't see it with a black front case. | 09:19 |
| r0kk3rz | but if you're going to mod lipstick, yiu might as well do it properly | 09:20 |
| r0kk3rz | seems extra pointless to have a notched display and not use the corners | 09:21 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Puh, modifying lipstick is a mess and would need a significant invest. Unfortunately we need to take any device from the shelf. The mentioned device has other business and technical pros ,but a notch that overlaps Sailfish UI is a no go. So I'm looking for a solution. I assumed, we could do it on the HAL by telling the system a different | 10:32 |
| T4 | screen size thatn the physical size. | 10:32 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Another aspect is, that the device has a dual camera. I hope, that this is handeled by the drivers and not on the upper Sailfish layer. | 10:33 |
| T4 | <NotKit> @m_aurel isn't it better idea to order model without notch than lowering screen resolution to hide it? | 10:48 |
| T4 | <NotKit> it can be done by playing with hwcomposer layer sizes, but seems like as huge hack to me for device manufactured specifically to be used with given OS | 10:49 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Sure. We wait for the alternative offering. But as I said, there are business benefits with this vendor: small batch sizes, legal security and reliability, high grade of flexibility ... | 10:52 |
| r0kk3rz | dual camera could be interesting too | 10:55 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Like all devices except form Apple, this device is made for Android. I think, own hardware with own drivers requires a huge invest. We try to build a consortium for European funding. So if anyone knows other European companies, whioch are interested in joining such a consortium, give me a note. But this is a long term perspective. | 10:55 |
| abranson | @m_aurel: supporting an alternative to android should be top priority for the european commission | 10:59 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> I agree | 10:59 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> Maybe not for Euoprean governments, but for the Europeans 😊 | 11:00 |
| abranson | I'd think for both. it's not easy to get EC funding though. putting bids together is expensive and they're often unsuccessful | 11:01 |
| T4 | <adampigg> @eugenio_g7 what should we do for a semi-permanent lipstick fix? add lipstick build to devel: and create a branch of the current release with the patch? master works, but i had an installation error due to missing usb-moded-something.so.1, i only had .so.0, so maybe need to roll back to the tagged version | 11:47 |
| T4 | <PepuAndRoll> What company wants to adopt sailfish? | 12:13 |
| T4 | <DSstill01> @NotKit [is it 1st April joke or they basically reimple …], Yes it is, and it's not even funny | 12:24 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> @PepuAndRoll You mean hardware adaption of Sailfish? It is our prefered option to license and port Sailfish for our device, that we will offer for consumers. | 13:17 |
| T4 | <PepuAndRoll> I heard something about the european comission wants to use sailfish os | 13:18 |
| T4 | <PepuAndRoll> I wish we had sailfish on our poco f1 | 13:18 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> @abranson I have experiences with European projects as member of a consortium. I think, it is important to have a consortium member, that is focussed on applying for funding and managaing such projects. There are companies like that. It's lot of paper work! | 13:19 |
| T4 | <PepuAndRoll> Oh ok, now I understand you :P | 13:20 |
| T4 | <m_aurel> But if you have a hardware releated projects, the chances are better, than pure software projects. So I see good chances for such an idea. | 13:20 |
| T4 | <PepuAndRoll> Bureaucracy, it is rubbish | 13:20 |
| abranson | @m_aurel Me too. Those consultancy companies can be helpful, but it's still a lot of work. There are a lot of leeches around those funding frameworks too who will consume a lot of funding but produce very little of use. | 13:21 |
| T4 | <austenite> @PepuAndRoll your phone seems to have lineage 15.1 device tree.. | 14:37 |
| T4 | <PepuAndRoll> @austenite it might be... because it come with Android 8.1 Oreo | 14:38 |
| T4 | <DSstill01> @PepuAndRoll [Bureaucracy, it is rubbish], Why you say that? | 15:46 |
| T4 | <austenite> hi.im having troubles..on firstboot, license agreement —-> lockscreen , no tutorial& homescreen.. | 15:50 |
| T4 | <PepuAndRoll> Marten, is it easy to port Sailfish with Lineage 15.1 base? | 15:51 |
| T4 | <austenite> @PepuAndRoll idk if hybris-15.1 base has been fixed, but by following hadk, you can get basic hw working.. | 15:54 |
| T4 | <PepuAndRoll> Okay, thanks. What is hadk? | 15:54 |
| T4 | <austenite> @PepuAndRoll link is available in group description | 15:55 |
| T4 | <PepuAndRoll> yeah, i'm reading that guide | 15:57 |
| T4 | <austenite> how can i avoid these checksum mismatch errors?https://del.dog/sfos-garlic12.sql , these packages are not being downloaded, i checked dir, cant boot past lockscreen | 16:25 |
| piggz | rinigus: btw, i used pure maps for navigation for the first time ... it wasnt terrible :) | 16:56 |
| piggz | slap some voices in there and its just about a satnav | 16:57 |
| T4 | <meierrom> piggz: and it being oss I'm sure he'll be waiting for your pr's... :)) | 17:34 |
| T4 | <meierrom> piggz: I'm rather sure that any serious oss sfos app dev is hoping for you to have a closer look at their code. :)) | 17:38 |
| piggz | ha, like I have time .... job, 2 ports, and several apps :) | 17:40 |
| T4 | <meierrom> piggz: voices are supported but their shit. You're better off without. Maybe you can improve it? | 17:40 |
| T4 | <meierrom> *they're | 17:42 |
| T4 | <meierrom> piggz: supporting wife and kid is no joke. Otherwise I would say 'fuck your job'. :)) | 17:44 |
| rinigus | piggz: what on earth have you been using before then? paper maps? | 18:00 |
| rinigus | as for TTS, that's a pain indeed. english should be ok with mimic, but the rest ... | 18:01 |
| piggz | rinigus: waze via AD :D | 18:18 |
| rinigus | piggz: interesting choice for porter... I hope you'll stick to pure maps or some other native solution and would help to improve it via feedback | 18:38 |
| piggz | rinigus: sure .... i use native where possible | 18:39 |
| rinigus | piggz: as for tts (voices), I do wonder if we should start looking into something newer (tensorflow-based?). haven't had time for that yet | 18:43 |
| piggz | rinigus: i was wondering if any other OSS nav apps had nice voices | 18:44 |
| rinigus | piggz: usually, they either rely on android tts or maybe have something licensed. alternative is to record human voices, but that will fail with the street names, unfortunately. | 18:46 |
| rinigus | piggz: these days, tts is probably a way to go and there have been advances in the area. "just" have to look into what's actually available and possible in 2019 | 18:47 |
| piggz | yes, but in UK you can always use road numbers (and i prefer them tbh) ... and you dont really need the street name, you just need to know to turn X in Y meters | 18:47 |
| piggz | i mean, you are right, waze and google have great voices, and the intructions are excellent | 18:48 |
| piggz | i was amazed when driving in glasgow that google told me which lane to be in | 18:48 |
| rinigus | piggz: let's see when the router used by pure maps will be able to provide lane info. hopefully, soon | 18:49 |
| T4 | <meierrom> @adampigg rinigus: doesn't Mozilla have an open speech recognition engine? | 19:02 |
| rinigus | meierrom: we need something that makes voice, not recognizes them (for that particular aspect) | 19:04 |
| T4 | <DSstill01> @PepuAndRoll [Marten, is it easy to port Sailfish with Linea …], Yes its easy af | 19:14 |
| T4 | <DSstill01> To get display working | 19:14 |
| T4 | <PepuAndRoll> Haha only display | 19:17 |
| T4 | <meierrom> rinigus: yeah, sure, sorry for that... | 19:20 |
| T4 | <DSstill01> Other things it depends | 19:30 |
| mal | rinigus: Qt 5.9 would have QTextToSpeech, doesn't help us now though | 19:45 |
| rinigus | mal: when I looked, QTextToSpeech was just a proxy for other tts systems. so, while such proxy is a right way to abstract tts engines, if I understand correctly, it will not help with making voice files as such | 19:47 |
| piggz | mal: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/qtmultimedia/merge_requests/22 | 19:48 |
| piggz | qt 5.9, in a permanent state of 'coming soon' :D | 19:48 |
| mal | rinigus: ok | 19:49 |
| mal | piggz: seems reasonable | 19:51 |
| mal | I need to compare to the other header to make sure everything is there | 19:51 |
| piggz | sure.....i checked against the previous commit to make sure i added everything | 19:52 |
| mal | yep, I assume you did but still better have a second set of eyes looking at those | 19:52 |
| piggz | mal: absolutely, should have enough time, target is 3.0.4 i believe | 20:00 |
| eugenio | piggz, sorry for replying this late... +1 for using the tagged version as per 3.0.2 + patch on top | 20:30 |
| piggz | eugenio: cool, will do that | 20:40 |
| eugenio | awesome | 20:43 |
| piggz | eugenio: build is in devel: and seems to work ok | 21:49 |
| piggz | later | 21:49 |
| eugenio | cool cool, not sure I'll be able to try it today but will eventually do tomorrow :) | 21:54 |
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