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| r0kk3rz | lets try this flatpak tomfoolery | 06:31 |
| r0kk3rz | why doesnt the flathub site work on sfos browser... | 06:37 |
| T42 | <adampigg> R0kk3rz, same reason as there is much.browser complaints? | 06:45 |
| r0kk3rz | i seriously doubt that they are doing anything that complicated that it wouldnt work on gecko 45 | 06:46 |
| r0kk3rz | also, this flatpak thing seems to take up quite a bit of space | 06:47 |
| r0kk3rz | oh you want to install a kde thing? heres the entire kde OS for that to work | 06:49 |
| T42 | <adampigg> Well, thats not much different to installing all deps | 06:50 |
| T42 | <adampigg> Plus, kde things are usually good :) | 06:50 |
| r0kk3rz | no its not, but its like having both RPM and DEB packaging systems in use on a single thing | 06:52 |
| r0kk3rz | ah, i think some hacking needs to be done for older devices | 06:54 |
| r0kk3rz | that dont have the vendor repo | 06:54 |
| r0kk3rz | vendor mount | 06:54 |
| T42 | <adampigg> Well yes, its like having both, except, we dont have one of them anyway | 06:57 |
| T42 | <adampigg> Sure, there will be some duplication, bht thats the price for a common app oackaging format | 06:58 |
| r0kk3rz | hmm, maybe i dont have the required gles thingie for the compositor hack | 06:58 |
| rinigus | TheKit: if looking into different compositor, we will have to also forward touch events. not just keyboard | 07:01 |
| rinigus | r0kk3rz: yes, it does take up space. on official devices, surely --user should be used (also makes it simpler to install as you don't need devel-su) | 07:02 |
| rinigus | duplication is pretty much unavoidable if you want qt 5.12/5.13 on sfos | 07:03 |
| r0kk3rz | rinigus: any clues on a missing libGLESv2S3D_adreno.so | 07:03 |
| rinigus | as for compositor - its currently plain sfos app, no gles there | 07:03 |
| rinigus | r0kk3rz: did you make flatpak extension? | 07:04 |
| r0kk3rz | yes | 07:04 |
| rinigus | its possible that you need to include more/different libs in your case. try to copy those as done in make extension script | 07:04 |
| rinigus | re vendor mount - if it doesn't find it, it should just ignore it. so, we should be able to safely include all options | 07:06 |
| rinigus | r0kk3rz: when you find your libhybris set of libs, please add them to the script and send the commit | 07:06 |
| r0kk3rz | seems ok | 07:12 |
| rinigus | r0kk3rz: do you have libGLESv2S3D_adreno.so in /usr/lib on device? if you do, you maybe need to copy it as well (add to the list in https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak/flatpak-runner/blob/master/scripts/flatpak-extension-hybris#L3) | 07:14 |
| r0kk3rz | i dont have it anywhere | 07:14 |
| rinigus | r0kk3rz: this error is what you get when running something in flatpak, right? | 07:16 |
| rinigus | alternative explanation is that it tries to load flatpak's mesa gl and that doesn't work. | 07:16 |
| r0kk3rz | yes | 07:17 |
| rinigus | r0kk3rz: you could check it with strace and see if it loads libhybris. for that, you will need to install org.kde.Sdk//5.12 (or the version you use) and run application bit differently: first start flatpak-runner (no arguments) | 07:19 |
| rinigus | second, in another terminal: WAYLAND_DISPLAY=(insert wayland display here) flatpak run --devel --command=sh flatpak.app.id | 07:20 |
| rinigus | that will bring you into terminal and will allow you to run strace /app/bin/...command... | 07:21 |
| rinigus | on my device, I get strace similar to sfos apps. so we have to ensure that similar happens on yours | 07:24 |
| rinigus | (have to go now) | 07:24 |
| r0kk3rz | cool thanks | 07:25 |
| T42 | <adampigg> R0kk3rz, im waiting to learn from your experience! | 07:27 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, you might run into the same issue on mido | 07:37 |
| rinigus | r0kk3rz: sorry, just realized that flatpak run is insufficient. when you start app with flatpak-runner, it will print out, at some point, "flatpak run" command with arguments that its executing | 07:43 |
| rinigus | when debugging, take that command, add --devel --command=sh before appID to get into the shell in sandbox. | 07:44 |
| rinigus | then strace as usual | 07:44 |
| rinigus | I presume you did reboot after flatpak install as well. | 07:44 |
| rinigus | I'll try to keep an eye on the channel, but may respond with delay | 07:45 |
| deathmist | huh, I may have to look into this flatpak thing too even if my 16.0 OP5 port isn't in the best shape currently | 07:50 |
| r0kk3rz | not sure how useful it will be on mobiles | 07:59 |
| r0kk3rz | but running desktop apps on a tablet with bt keyboard sounds good to me | 07:59 |
| rinigus | it makes also plasma mobile apps available on sfos. same for gnome mobile apps, when we get compositor fixed | 08:26 |
| deathmist | mal: can you check https://github.com/mer-hybris/hadk-faq/pull/1 | 10:05 |
| Kabouik_ | <Kabouik_> Does anyone know if it is possible to use dead keys on SFOS with hardware keyboards? I don't remember if it was supported with the tohkbd, but I made an xkb layout for the Pro¹ and dead keys are ignored. | 10:10 |
| Kabouik_ | <Kabouik_> The same xkb layout works on other machines and in Ubu chroot from SFOS, so it is not an issue with the file itself. | 10:11 |
| Kabouik_ | <Kabouik_> cf. https://together.jolla.com/question/219925/how-to-enable-dead-keys-with-hardware-keyboards/ | 10:11 |
| T42 | <adampigg> Rinigus, how might flatpak work on a non-hybris device? eg x86 or pine | 11:52 |
| T42 | <NotKit> Kabouik, are there languages with such dead keys by default? | 11:57 |
| T42 | <NotKit> may be interesting to check if it works with BT/USB keyboard | 11:58 |
| Kabouik_ | Hum, I have to so some research T42, will tell you. But I'm not sure. | 12:06 |
| Kabouik_ | I don't think so. | 12:07 |
| Kabouik_ | Maybe Netherlands actually, they seem to use us-intl by default, the dead-key version. But that's still us-intl then, not another language. | 12:09 |
| mal | Kabouik_: T42 is a telegram-irc tunnel bot, use the nick after it to highlight people, like @NotKit | 12:10 |
| Kabouik_ | Woops you told me actually, but I'm distracted at the moment. ^ NotKit | 12:10 |
| Kabouik_ | Woops you told me actually, but I'm distracted at the moment. ^ #NotKit | 12:10 |
| Kabouik_ | Meeeh. | 12:10 |
| Kabouik_ | Discord reflexes trying to edit my message with UpArrow. And mistyping. | 12:10 |
| Kabouik_ | What a fumble. ^ @NotKit. | 12:11 |
| Kabouik_ | Sorry it's in French @NotKit, but if I believe this: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_des_touches_d'un_clavier_de_saisie#QWERTY | 12:12 |
| Kabouik_ | The dead keys are shown in red, so there are multiple countries that might have a few dead keys on their keyboard. | 12:13 |
| Kabouik_ | I'm not sure all layouts shown are default though. | 12:13 |
| Kabouik_ | Ex-Yugoslavia countries seem to have a lot of dead keys by default actually. If only I could find where is the old laptop of my partner, I could confirm if those dead keys are enabled on the default layout. And then we could try this language on SFOS with BT keyboard. | 12:15 |
| T42 | <NotKit> I think if default us-intl does not work on SFOS properly that may be a problem of xcb implementation in compositor/QtWayland | 12:18 |
| * stephg booking train tickets | 12:25 | |
| T42 | <adampigg> stephg: for? | 12:45 |
| rinigus | adampigg: it would still require flatpak-runner wrapper (for app orientation and ability to minimize it), but no libhybris extension will be needed. Should work out of the box | 14:39 |
| T42 | <adampigg> Cool, hoped so | 14:48 |
| Kabouik_ | Ok @NotKit, is there any way to check? | 15:11 |
| stephg | adampigg fosdem! | 15:20 |
| T42 | geekyneo was added by: geekyneo | 17:57 |
| T42 | <geekyneo> #notes | 17:57 |
| T42 | <geekyneo> Hi all | 18:04 |
| T42 | <geekyneo> Anyone porting Poco F1? | 18:04 |
| T42 | <geekyneo> Or any latest device..? | 18:06 |
| T42 | <adampigg> rinigus: can you add the kde flatpak repo for plasma? | 19:59 |
| T42 | <adampigg> im getting an internal gnutls error | 19:59 |
| T42 | <adampigg> sh-3.2# flatpak remote-add --if-not-exists kdeapps --from https://distribute.kde.org/kdeapps.flatpakrepo | 20:00 |
| T42 | <adampigg> error: Can't load uri https://distribute.kde.org/kdeapps.flatpakrepo: Error performing TLS handshake: GnuTLS internal error. | 20:00 |
| rinigus | @adampigg: you can, but there is some issue with download. try to get that file with curl -O and later just `flatpak remote-add --if-not-exists kdeapps --from kdeapps.flatpakrepo` . I had the same issue, don't know why | 20:25 |
| T42 | <adampigg> rinigus: can you recommend packages to try out? | 20:26 |
| T42 | <adampigg> and where they are hosted | 20:27 |
| rinigus | adampigg: right now I am using angelfish (kde hosted), but I hacked it together with qvirtualkeyboard and built my own version. if you have hw keyboard you could probably try more. | 20:28 |
| rinigus | right now my priority is to get keyboard working and then will have to look what to do next | 20:28 |
| rinigus | problem with the browser is caused by qtwebengine issues with hidpi - so probably will look into integration of apps into lipstick app drawer, app-specific extra settings and such. | 20:30 |
| T42 | <adampigg> am gonna try on latte (x86) when ive got it updated to 3.2.1.20 | 20:32 |
| vknecht | any tip/pointer about how updating a backported driver is properly done ? should the whole procedure (gentree.py) be followed again ? | 21:12 |
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| T42 | <adampigg> yo rinigus | 22:00 |
| T42 | <adampigg> (Photo, 1440x2560) https://irc.thaodan.de/.imgstore/aMlCEd8nCB.png | 22:00 |
| T42 | <adampigg> @eugenio_g7 ^^ | 22:01 |
| T42 | <eugenio_g7> woooo 🚀🚀🚀 | 22:01 |
| T42 | <eugenio_g7> awesome | 22:01 |
| T42 | <eugenio_g7> should I try to get it on my smartwatch? :) | 22:01 |
| rinigus | adampigg: :) looking good! | 22:02 |
| T42 | <eugenio_g7> cool stuff you both! | 22:03 |
| T42 | <adampigg> rinigus: angelfish doesnt seem available for x86 | 22:03 |
| T42 | <adampigg> works simpler on x86/non libhybris system | 22:03 |
| T42 | <adampigg> maybe i can get Kate as an editor! | 22:04 |
| T42 | <adampigg> damn, kate isnt packaged | 22:05 |
| rinigus | no wonder. as soon as you have opengl supported its tested already upstream. Packaging is not too hard... | 22:05 |
| vknecht | @adampigg: wish you all the best, especially the pay rise :-) | 22:13 |
| T42 | <adampigg> vknecht: ha, that wasnt serious! | 22:15 |
| vknecht | it should !!! | 22:15 |
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