Thursday, 2023-09-21

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malsomeone again has been translating hadk-hot11:13
T42_<Mister_Magister> letsgoooooo i mean whyy11:38
Mister_Magisterbut honestly11:38
Mister_Magisterit's more site's  fault11:38
Mister_Magisterthe site should have notranslate on the text field11:38
T42_<edp_17> I think there are not many people updating that hadk-hot page, so probably would be good to move it into a safer place (github?) where it can be updated in a more controlled way. What do yo think?12:18
T42_<elros34> hi, the point of hadk-hot is to provide useful info fast. Github's PR usually takes very long time to get merged. But of course in first line of hadk-hot I have added information (you need to learn Chinnese now to understand it) if you think some instruction is usfeful not just some temporary then make PR to hadk-faq (or whatever new doc you want)12:23
T42_<Mister_Magister> then just have someone who can accept prs fast12:24
T42_<edp_17> That's what I am suggesting. Not many people updating it, so one can update and the other can accept.12:26
T42_<elros34> In theory yes but in reality this never works. I think most of the info should be refactored and moved somewhere else but I still think place when you can place some drafts which will evolve over time is still useful.12:30
T42_<elros34> after all I created current unofficial hadk-hot because of long abandoned official hadk-hot whic nobody wanted to revive and keep alive for longer time12:32
Mister_Magisterit works in practice if jolla is not involved, if you have 2-3 people who will accept prs fast it will work just fine12:34
Mister_Magisteryou're always vulnerable to vandalism12:34
Mister_Magistermer wiki was good as anyone could modify but was ro by default12:35
mal@edp_17 the more static information from hadk-hot should go to faq12:52
Mister_Magisterit should12:57
T42_<elros34> yeah but nobody is willing to for years, simply there is not much of porters these days and even less  willing to work on documentation so etherpad is only way in my opinion13:00
deathmist@elros34 I still remember when https://github.com/mer-hybris/hadk-faq/pull/4 took 7 months to merge, that does not encourage anyone to continue improving them either when it takes so long to add important info13:02
Mister_Magister^^^^^^^^13:04
maldeathmist: sorry about that13:13
deathmistit's fine, I've moved on and haven't touched sfos in a real long time at this point13:13
malit's a shame13:14
Mister_Magisternot a first person to do it, not the last13:17
T42_<elros34> mal: for sure you can't handle everything alone so please don't take all these words personally13:18
Mister_Magisterlike, don't get me wrong i love sfos, i just don't like what jolla is doing13:18
Mister_Magister@elros34 for sure he's trying13:18
Mister_Magisterbut ye elros is right13:18
Mister_Magistermal's an angel we don't deserve13:18
poetastergiven the business realities and having watched PRs grow old and die in various projects, I'd hardly make it a do or die.14:22
poetastersome PRs also do not suffer this fate.14:23
poetasterelros, I could set up an etherpad-lite instance.14:27
T42_<elros34> this is what we use, the only missing part is easy way to revert changes: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/hadk-hot14:54
poetasterah, you've got one. but it's just a one shot ok. I'll look at building an instance with some structure.15:20
poetasterelros, had you guys thought about https://sailfishos.wiki/15:43
poetasterit's from: https://forum.sailfishos.org/u/oroesler15:43
T42_<elros34> that would be great if hadk pdf together with faq/hot could be converted to such a wiki but obviously somebody would have to spend time on it and that is the main problem15:45
poetasterelros, hmm. Ok, I'll look at it.16:45
poetasterJust to ping oroesler and give 'im a heads up, I posted in the forum. I'll start creating a section and see how it goes.16:48
poetasterso, the start is here: https://sailfishos.wiki/books/hadk17:01
T42_<TheMichalos> That's cool17:51
T42_<TheMichalos> as using hadk, hadk-hot and hadk-faq is annoying17:52
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