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| Mister_Magister | mal: here's my idea: buy some very cheap second hand tablet from the likes of lenovo, port sfos using GSI as a base, but just enough to have screen touch and wifi working, which could work without even droid-hal right? if we're lucky. Do you think it's feasable? My idea to have an app running instead of lipstick and make it into nice DIY tablet so that i can put whatever i want in said app and have nice clear gui, for example | 15:45 |
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| Mister_Magister | controling thermostat | 15:45 |
| T42 | <CRK_11755> Hi all is there going to be any new updates on the fair phone 4 preferably being able to use some Android apps natively like a Jolla phone | 15:46 |
| Mister_Magister | none of sfos phones can use android apps natively | 15:47 |
| T42 | <CRK_11755> I understand there's a layer that goes on top of it cannot be done with the fair phone 4 | 15:50 |
| Mister_Magister | fp4 can run waydroid which is alternative | 15:51 |
| T42 | <CRK_11755> Not looking to run way droid that kind of defeats the purpose | 15:51 |
| Mister_Magister | there's no difference between waydroid and the jolla stuff | 15:51 |
| Mister_Magister | jolla's stuff aka aliendalvik is basically same thing just more integrated | 15:51 |
| T42 | <CRK_11755> Oh okay does it run a whole separate OS like lineage OS when you click on an Android app when I did it with Ubuntu touch all I did was eat up my battery | 15:54 |
| T42 | <CRK_11755> And I think the sailfish interface is way nicer than the Ubuntu touch | 15:54 |
| Mister_Magister | sure but yes waydroid does that and so does aliendalvik | 15:56 |
| Mister_Magister | just aliendalvik is more integrated, it lists installed apps on sfos home screen and if you open it it opens the app in the android, as separate window | 15:56 |
| Mister_Magister | but make no mistake entire android is running you just don't see it | 15:56 |
| Mister_Magister | also yes it also eats battery, running 2 os's at the same time will always eat battery | 15:57 |
| T42 | <CRK_11755> Okay cool makes sense thanks for the info appreciate it | 16:02 |
| mal | it seems waydroid is still lineage 20 based which is a problem for fairphone ports | 16:52 |
| Mister_Magister | why would that be a problem? | 16:57 |
| mal | compatiblity issues with host side libs | 17:02 |
| mal | android 14 base is too new for current waydroid | 17:03 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: but what do you think of my idea? feasible? | 18:14 |
| mal | well it's probably possible | 19:17 |
| mal | but not sure if it would be just easier to have the UI up and the app running there | 19:17 |
| T42 | <Mister_Magister> nono it's quite the same thing, just running app directly on hwcomposer without lipstick | 19:36 |
| T42 | <Mister_Magister> I've done that before while testing stylus | 19:36 |
| T42 | <Mister_Magister> so that it runs in sort of kiosk mode, you can't leave it and it launches on boot | 19:36 |
| T42 | <Mister_Magister> but that's not the hard part, porting on top of gsi is | 19:37 |
| mal | well you still need to rebuild kernel modules against patched kernel so not as gsi as android | 19:41 |
| mal | but most of the time kernel probably could be shared and just needs kernel modules so be built against correct kernel config | 19:42 |
| T42 | <Mister_Magister> Well i don't even mean sharing it between devices, just one device | 19:56 |
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