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| pseudodev | This happens whenever i open an app https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/C2thc4Xu/ | 06:49 |
| pseudodev | ani ideas? | 06:49 |
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| guhl | Mister_Magister, my build is not as perfect as I thought. Got audio (routing) issues. | 08:47 |
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| Mister_Magister | routing to headphones? | 08:48 |
| guhl | on phone call i can not hear anything. only when i switch to speaker but then i can not turn speaker off anymore | 08:48 |
| guhl | headphones work | 08:48 |
| T4 | <@adampigg> Gm | 08:48 |
| Mister_Magister | guhl: waaaaait | 08:48 |
| Mister_Magister | i had the same | 08:48 |
| guhl | I have the feeling that we had that issue already but i cant remember | 08:48 |
| Mister_Magister | i had that issue and ficed it | 08:49 |
| pseudodev | Mister_Magister | 08:50 |
| guhl | if you remember that would be great. I have to spend the day outside with my family, but later ... | 08:50 |
| pseudodev | what is your sfos build version? | 08:50 |
| Mister_Magister | 2.1.1 and 2.1.2 | 08:50 |
| pseudodev | Have yo noticed the app support is bad? | 08:50 |
| pseudodev | *you | 08:50 |
| pseudodev | I mean, sfos browser crashes a lot, buggy, cannot stream | 08:51 |
| guhl | it's national holiday in austria so one is supposed to do something ... | 08:51 |
| pseudodev | telegram, the only IM app existing for sfos crashes really frequent | 08:51 |
| pseudodev | YTPlayer App cannot stream properly. The video lags a lot. | 08:52 |
| pseudodev | And that's not just me. Reported by a lot of users. | 08:52 |
| pseudodev | I think 2.1 has a lot of app compatiblity issues... | 08:53 |
| pseudodev | Also, my calling fails for some reason | 08:53 |
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| Mister_Magister | guhl: can't remember what i changed | 09:57 |
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| r0kk3rz | pseudodev: 2.1 was when we went from qt5.2 to qt5.6 | 10:14 |
| Mister_Magister | r0kk3rz: wondering what would happen if we switched to gcc7 | 10:15 |
| Mister_Magister | that would be a lot of mess | 10:15 |
| r0kk3rz | shouldnt be that bad | 10:16 |
| r0kk3rz | they'd have to put it in ye olde abi mode anyway | 10:16 |
| pseudodev | r0kk3rz: Jolla's native app support is already pathetic. | 10:17 |
| pseudodev | This just adds to it. | 10:17 |
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| r0kk3rz | pseudodev: pathetic how? | 10:17 |
| pseudodev | r0kk3rz:Lots and lots of apps running on android not there on jolla. | 10:18 |
| r0kk3rz | sure, they cant force third-parties to develop for their platform | 10:18 |
| pseudodev | and for a guy like me who doesnt even have android support, it is really difficult | 10:18 |
| pseudodev | i know they cannot force. But i wish alien-dalvik supported unofficial ports | 10:19 |
| r0kk3rz | it might, they have everything they need to do such a thing | 10:19 |
| r0kk3rz | it would work in exactly the same way as xperia x | 10:20 |
| pseudodev | yes | 10:20 |
| pseudodev | and the apps | 10:20 |
| pseudodev | really bad | 10:20 |
| pseudodev | not just for me | 10:20 |
| pseudodev | a lot of people. Even people using xperia x | 10:20 |
| r0kk3rz | sorry, what? | 10:21 |
| pseudodev | the native app support | 10:21 |
| pseudodev | as i had already said, YT Player. | 10:21 |
| pseudodev | it lags a lot | 10:21 |
| pseudodev | and sailorgram. Fails to open. It used to open before | 10:21 |
| pseudodev | Posted in logs above | 10:21 |
| pseudodev | SFOS browser cannot stream. | 10:22 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah im sure jolla is on the case, media can be tough sometimes | 10:22 |
| pseudodev | crashes a lot. And i do not see the calling screen at times | 10:22 |
| pseudodev | these all never happened in 2.0.5.6 | 10:22 |
| pseudodev | and the the developer of sailorgram literally quit :/ | 10:23 |
| pseudodev | Everything about this OS is perfect. Just the apps :( | 10:23 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah theres a lot of abandoned apps around | 10:24 |
| pseudodev | lot would be an understatement | 10:27 |
| pseudodev | got a lil frustrated there ... | 10:28 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah you really need to be prepared to do a lot of things yourself, you dont get much for free on sfos | 10:29 |
| r0kk3rz | if an app is abandoned, you fix it yourself, most of them are open source | 10:30 |
| pseudodev | Yeah. But i dont get it. Why the abandonment. I mean, there are apps for tizen for christ's sake | 10:31 |
| pseudodev | who uses tizen? | 10:31 |
| r0kk3rz | people moved on from sfos, probably onto android | 10:35 |
| r0kk3rz | there are significantly more tizen devices out in the wild than sailfish devices, so presumably someone uses them | 10:38 |
| abranson | loads. it's popular in india isn't it? | 10:39 |
| Mister_Magister | pseudodev: about ytplayer and sailorgram maybe blame developers that dropped that apps not sailfish? | 10:39 |
| pseudodev | Mister_Magister: YTPlayer issue is being fixed i guess. Sailorgram dev got frustrated | 10:40 |
| pseudodev | abranson: Tizen? Oh hell no. Tizen came. Once. Was the biggest flop. | 10:41 |
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| pseudodev | r0kk3rz: Maybe. But unlike tizen (Which is almost dead), SFOS survived and grows more and more. | 10:42 |
| r0kk3rz | grows? sfos has been mostly in attrition mode for years now :) | 10:42 |
| r0kk3rz | but if you cant buy a device, then you cant really blame people | 10:43 |
| abranson | i thought there were over a million tizen devices in india. maybe that's out-of-date though | 10:43 |
| pseudodev | Nope. India is mainly android and iOS. with a little bit of sfos (because of people like me and intex aqua fish) | 10:45 |
| r0kk3rz | internet says they sold 3 million tizen phones in 2015, mostly in india, bangladesh and nepal | 10:45 |
| Mister_Magister | well i'll never go back to android it's shit lol :D and i have every app that i need | 10:46 |
| pseudodev | r0kk3rz: The nations combined. And people abandoned tizen months after they bought | 10:47 |
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| pseudodev | Mister_Magister: SFDroid or official jolla? | 10:48 |
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| Mister_Magister | what? | 10:48 |
| pseudodev | How do you have all the apps you need? | 10:48 |
| Mister_Magister | yep | 10:48 |
| Mister_Magister | i mean | 10:48 |
| Mister_Magister | i just do there is no app that sfos lacks | 10:48 |
| pseudodev | Uber? | 10:49 |
| pseudodev | Maps? | 10:49 |
| Mister_Magister | not using, poormaps | 10:49 |
| pseudodev | poor maps doesnt work for me. no idea why. | 10:49 |
| Mister_Magister | helped with adding voice support into it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 10:50 |
| pseudodev | there is shazam for recognizing music, there a lot of bank apps for transactions | 10:50 |
| pseudodev | only android have them | 10:50 |
| Mister_Magister | yeah i don't have bank app but don't need it. i don't need to recognize music | 10:50 |
| pseudodev | I quit whatsapp to use sfos. But even telegram wont work? | 10:51 |
| Mister_Magister | using facebook (and will use my app that will have both facebook and telegram) | 10:51 |
| Mister_Magister | without stickers though | 10:51 |
| pseudodev | without stickers, video or audio call | 10:52 |
| pseudodev | just a basic IM | 10:52 |
| Mister_Magister | yup | 10:52 |
| Mister_Magister | yup | 10:52 |
| pseudodev | I just wish devs cared more for making apps. | 10:52 |
| Mister_Magister | yup | 10:53 |
| pseudodev | But i'm still gonna use it. Dont like android | 10:53 |
| pseudodev | Just of a way to tackle this issue | 10:54 |
| pseudodev | *thinking | 10:54 |
| Mister_Magister | like i said i;m not missing any app. even that i have aliendalvik on tablet and phone i'm not using it because i don't have anything that i could use it for | 10:54 |
| Mister_Magister | and andorid is shit basically sfos is better in maany ways | 10:54 |
| pseudodev | You have official jolla device? | 10:54 |
| Mister_Magister | nope | 10:56 |
| pseudodev | then> | 11:00 |
| pseudodev | alien dlavik? | 11:00 |
| Mister_Magister | ? | 11:04 |
| pseudodev | didnt you say that you have alien dalvik? | 11:05 |
| pseudodev | if you dont have an official device, how did you get alien dalvik? | 11:05 |
| r0kk3rz | pseudodev: alien dalvik doesnt have any drm that prevents its use on ther devices | 11:07 |
| pseudodev | how do i get alien dalvik? | 11:07 |
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| r0kk3rz | depending on the device, it might just not work | 11:08 |
| pseudodev | Well i can try | 11:08 |
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| lintuxido | Mister_Magister: hello | 13:02 |
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| Mister_Magister | hi | 13:03 |
| lintuxido | Mister_Magister: I am porting sfos for honor 5x | 13:03 |
| Mister_Magister | lintuxido: ah the phone i wanted to port for | 13:03 |
| lintuxido | but stuck at same point which I was stuck for moto g4 plus, unable to go beyond rpm installing when I tried to create root fs | 13:06 |
| Mister_Magister | that problem that mic stops after installing rpms? | 13:06 |
| lintuxido | yes | 13:07 |
| Mister_Magister | friend of mine with same problem just reinstalled os :D | 13:07 |
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| lintuxido | Mister_Magister: so I also need to reinstall the os. ok. will check it with this option also. | 13:41 |
| Mister_Magister | or install second | 13:41 |
| lintuxido | may be its right coz I had tried on same OS (which I had used to port moto g4 plus) with different user | 13:45 |
| Mister_Magister | yup | 13:46 |
| Mister_Magister | mic gets wild sometimes | 13:46 |
| lintuxido | Mister_Magister: hows your anbox porting is going on? | 13:46 |
| Mister_Magister | it doesn't | 13:47 |
| lintuxido | so are you looking for another solution | 13:47 |
| Mister_Magister | there is no other solution | 13:48 |
| Mister_Magister | i have alien though | 13:48 |
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| lintuxido | gr8.. | 13:50 |
| blap | how is anbox anyway | 13:50 |
| blap | usable? | 13:51 |
| r0kk3rz | nope, and certainly not on a droid 4 | 13:51 |
| Mister_Magister | blap: nope that's why i see no point in porting it | 13:55 |
| raandoom | Mister_Magister: is there some faq about porting alien dalvik? | 13:59 |
| Mister_Magister | nope | 13:59 |
| raandoom | yeah, not porting, but copying i think | 13:59 |
| Mister_Magister | nope | 13:59 |
| raandoom | Mister_Magister: is your alien dalvik working properly? like the original one on original device? | 14:01 |
| Mister_Magister | almost | 14:01 |
| raandoom | Mister_Magister: and whats wrong with it? | 14:02 |
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| Mister_Magister | you cannot turn it on after turning it off | 14:02 |
| Mister_Magister | and app bugges like browser | 14:02 |
| raandoom | ok, thank you | 14:03 |
| raandoom | need to think about it :) | 14:04 |
| blap | why don't my programs just do what I imagine they should? | 14:04 |
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| Mister_Magister | blap: cuz you didnt make them? | 14:05 |
| blap | but i did | 14:06 |
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| r0kk3rz | blap: yes it would be a lot easier if the programs were just mind readers | 14:08 |
| blap | i agree | 14:09 |
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| raandoom | if i want to build kernel, i need just call make for kernel inside scratchbox? | 14:14 |
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| raandoom | already found wiki :) | 14:15 |
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| miau | Hi everyone! | 16:23 |
| miau | Anyone having non working GPS when the Mozilla Services are enabled? Problems for me started since 2.1.2.3. | 16:24 |
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| blap | i wish this sd-automounter would give me sane, consistent mountpoints and not 4862408wf0uy24t08fw08ewuy0248y2408u | 17:47 |
| blap | then 108asu80fdso422jth20e8feyw0 | 17:48 |
| blap | i only have one sd slot. | 17:48 |
| blap | so /media/sd would be nice, or /media/sdcard | 17:48 |
| Mister_Magister | blap: depends on your sdcard partition | 17:48 |
| Mister_Magister | blap: it would not | 17:49 |
| blap | why not? | 17:49 |
| Mister_Magister | since you can have multiple partitions on one sd | 17:49 |
| blap | ok right | 17:49 |
| blap | then p1, p2, p3, p4, p5 etc would be easier to type and make a symlink possible no? | 18:03 |
| Mister_Magister | no lol you have partition UID | 18:04 |
| Mister_Magister | you can type beginning and click tab | 18:05 |
| Mister_Magister | it's not hard lol | 18:05 |
| piggz | abranson: how did omx go? | 18:08 |
| abranson | not bad. not ready yet though. i've also been working on gst-libav for the sw codec side | 18:09 |
| piggz | awesome | 18:10 |
| abranson | i made a bug to track the progress: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1837 | 18:18 |
| merbot | Mer bug 1837 in gstreamer "Investigate dropping Android MediaPlayerService" [Task,New] | 18:18 |
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| piggz | abranson: whats gst-jolla? | 18:30 |
| blap | Mister_Magister: but i cannot symlink dirs from home/nemo to my sd | 18:36 |
| Mister_Magister | blap: you have fat32 formated sdcard? | 18:36 |
| blap | right now ext2 | 18:36 |
| Mister_Magister | what is the error? | 18:37 |
| blap | it gets a new mountpoint so the symlink breaks | 18:37 |
| blap | this is why i need the automounter to give it a consistent name | 18:38 |
| elros | blap: ... I already give you the solution, maybe even twice I dont remember excatly | 18:39 |
| blap | :( | 18:39 |
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| abranson | piggz: it was the renderer I think. it's gone into the glsink bit of droidmedia now. | 18:42 |
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| stephg | evening | 18:50 |
| blap | evbening | 18:57 |
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| blap | NeKit: does camera app sometimes freeze up on you requiring manual closing the application | 21:18 |
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| bnoize | hey porters. where do I find instructions on Samsung tablet install ? does anyone have a blog on em ? or should one simply attempt the same procedure as described for the xperia? | 21:51 |
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| mal | bnoize: which samsung tablet? | 22:02 |
| bnoize | Samsung Tab E | 22:03 |
| mal | I think nobody has ported Sailfish OS to that device yet | 22:05 |
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