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| situ | Morning | 05:03 |
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| GentSir | morning europe | 06:37 |
| dm8tbr | good moaning | 06:38 |
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| GentSir | What's everyone up to? | 06:38 |
| dm8tbr | not mucken futch, just woke up | 06:42 |
| GentSir | same here | 06:43 |
| GentSir | dm8tbr, is that supposed to be making fun of american rednecks? | 06:44 |
| dm8tbr | is it? | 06:44 |
| GentSir | Sounded like something one of my drunken uncles in Kentucky would say | 06:44 |
| iekku | still trying to wake up | 06:45 |
| dm8tbr | the closest I was to kentucky, was a fast food joint... | 06:45 |
| iekku | coffeine level in the blood seems to be still too poor | 06:45 |
| GentSir | dm8tbr, KFC? I've ate at the original one in kentucky | 06:46 |
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| GentSir | Sorry, spitting drivel, currently increasing my caffeine level as well | 06:49 |
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| niqt | morning | 08:01 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | hey guys :D | 09:06 |
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| GentSir | MFaro-Tusino, morning mate | 09:07 |
| MFaro-Tusino | This build error is really annoying me | 09:07 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | I will try and reset the cpp and h files back to original state and see if it will run again | 09:08 |
| MFaro-Tusino | then i can try modding it line by line | 09:08 |
| GentSir | I have no clue | 09:11 |
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| lbt | MFaro-Tusino: what's the problem ? | 09:19 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | i modded the cpp to add an entry for QFile, but the error was to do with variable declared too many times or something like that | 09:28 |
| MFaro-Tusino | but resetting the cpp and h files fixed the build for now | 09:28 |
| MFaro-Tusino | will attempt again | 09:28 |
| lbt | I saw a pastie last night that looked like you were mixing apps - 2 'main' declarations | 09:29 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | maybe i was | 09:29 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i did do a fair bit of copy pasting hah | 09:30 |
| MFaro-Tusino | is that "main" as well? | 09:31 |
| MFaro-Tusino | *Sailfish::createApplication | 09:31 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | never mind, i worked out what i was doing | 09:44 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i had accidentally copied Main.cpp into sailfishapplication.cpp as well | 09:44 |
| MFaro-Tusino | but now i need to get QFile working properly | 09:44 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | Question, how can I get a label to fill its parent column? | 09:48 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | lbt: ? | 09:51 |
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| chriadam | MFaro-Tusino: width wise? width: parent.width | 09:54 |
| MFaro-Tusino | no, so i have used QFile to read from an external file, and i want to display it in a label, but obviously, labels are not designed to be multi line | 09:55 |
| chriadam | TextArea | 09:55 |
| chriadam | then set readOnly: true | 09:55 |
| chriadam | there are some text margin properties which you may need to set also, since it does some ... rather confusing things by default. | 09:55 |
| MFaro-Tusino | cool, will look into that :) | 09:56 |
| * lbt pretends he knew that :) | 09:58 | |
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| MFaro-Tusino | hahah lbt | 10:01 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | hmm, textArea isn't playing nicely, like it works, no errors, buts i just can't get what i want | 10:04 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | Hi Sfiet_konstantin | 10:22 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello MFaro-Tusino ! | 10:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so, still struggling with your QML ? | 10:25 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i fixed it, sort of | 10:26 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Just needing to finish TextAra | 10:26 |
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| mjones | MFaro-Tusino: Label should work fine in multi-line mode. Just set wrapMode: Text.wrap and give it a width | 11:06 |
| MFaro-Tusino | yeah, i discovered what i did wrong | 11:07 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i was reading one line from the file and not the whol file | 11:08 |
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| YourFutureUser | hello. I have question: will Sailfish be DUALsim?? I mean dualstandby and dual active - what in general mean using at last 2 SIM cards, hence 2 mobile numbers at the same time. This is essential for me. How about this?? | 11:41 |
| YourFutureUser | I need 1 number for job purposes and separated 1 number for social, family etc and abilty to manage it independently. Meego devs when asked replied this is technically possible. Will it work on Sailfish? | 11:43 |
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| YourFutureUser | There are many hardware with 2 SIM ports, so possible to be used by me however I have hope jolla's smartphone will have 2 SIM cards. | 11:44 |
| iekku | YourFutureUser, we haven't published any information about our first phone yet, so unfortunately you need to wait | 11:45 |
| YourFutureUser | I know from twittter "thw specfication will be later blablabla" - s | 11:45 |
| YourFutureUser | I am aware you will not answer me NOW | 11:45 |
| iekku | so it's more like wish? ;) | 11:45 |
| YourFutureUser | What I expect is you to be AWARE that dualsim is absolutely needed minimum. | 11:46 |
| iekku | :nod: | 11:46 |
| YourFutureUser | I would say more the demand then a wish - I want to use Sailfish but without dualsim I will not have such a possiblity | 11:46 |
| YourFutureUser | :( | 11:46 |
| YourFutureUser | Anyway I tried to let you know - hope it will work, as I know all Asians use dualsim as a common solutions | 11:48 |
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| Yaniel_ | YourFutureUser: good thing you are not the only onr asking for this | 11:49 |
| Yaniel_ | one* | 11:49 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | iekku: o/ | 11:50 |
| YourFutureUser | 2nd question: is this proper to forecast that: As Sailfish can run apps form Android+some of MeeGo+Sailfsh native+ some Linux = then number of possible apps can be estimated as 400k + 10k + ?unknown + ?unknown = hence about 500k in general?? | 11:51 |
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| iekku | Sfiet_Konstantin, \o | 11:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | iekku: how are you :) ? | 11:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | YourFutureUser: is the number of apps that mych important | 11:52 |
| iekku | Sfiet_Konstantin, busy as really busy badger | 11:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | YourFutureUser: anyway, the number of android apps is a good estimate of number of apps in sailfish | 11:52 |
| iekku | Sfiet_Konstantin, how are you? | 11:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | however, even if Maemo / MeeGo / Sailfish community is small, we have quite a few awesome apps | 11:52 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | iekku: very fine | 11:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | working for school project | 11:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | went to a nice concert as well \m/ | 11:53 |
| iekku | that's cool! | 11:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | working on social by chriadam|away as well :) | 11:53 |
| Yaniel_ | IMHO the quality of the apps is more important | 11:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and helping my padawan, MFaro-Tusino | 11:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Yaniel_: +1 | 11:53 |
| YourFutureUser | Ithank you, it doesnt metter if community is big/small - counts if community is active IMHO ;) | 11:53 |
| iekku | Sfiet_Konstantin, even better | 11:53 |
| iekku | Yaniel_, +1 | 11:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | YourFutureUser: you landed in a nice place, where the community is very active :) | 11:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | YourFutureUser: this wiki page gives you some insights about what the community is doing: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish | 11:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | apps, portage, hacks | 11:54 |
| YourFutureUser | no prob, I care for wiki page so I know most of this | 11:55 |
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| YourFutureUser | not all however ;) | 11:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 11:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | did you see the ports done on some computers ? | 11:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | did you see the initial port of tweetian ? | 11:55 |
| YourFutureUser | that was a reason of question about apps | 11:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | etc. | 11:55 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I love tweetian! | 11:56 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I'm using it on the sdk hehe | 11:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | YourFutureUser: when people ask about apps, I ask about: "what is your need ?" | 11:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | MFaro-Tusino: would love to see qnep :$ | 11:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | task_jp is not here sadly :( | 11:56 |
| YourFutureUser | at this moment my need was to confim or correct my thinking about number of apps possible to used with Sailfish | 11:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Just to state it once again: number is irrelevant | 11:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | quality is all | 11:57 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | eg on the abandonned platform called N9, I have seen the two best twitter clients that I have ever used | 11:58 |
| Yaniel_ | well in theory you could run about any unix app you can find | 11:58 |
| YourFutureUser | well my most important need about apps and Sailfish is they to be avialble for dualsim mobile usage and be dual sim | 11:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | YourFutureUser: we will see | 11:59 |
| YourFutureUser | Unix etc software I was meaning by linux soft | 11:59 |
| Yaniel_ | I persobally don't need dualsim but I can understand very well why someone would want it | 11:59 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | iekku: we don't see you often on IRC :( | 12:00 |
| Yaniel_ | anyways a lack of apps will probably not be a problem sailfish has to face | 12:00 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | iekku: and we don't see faenil anymore :( | 12:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | iekku: does that mean that the two of you are deeply linked ? :D | 12:00 |
| iekku | Sfiet_Konstantin, i have been way too busy, hope i will have more time soon | 12:00 |
| iekku | Sfiet_Konstantin, oh noes! | 12:00 |
| Yaniel_ | did you eat faenil? | 12:00 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | iekku: well, I can understand, don't worrk | 12:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Yaniel_: +1 | 12:01 |
| iekku | Yaniel_, nooooooooo, who told you!!!! | 12:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the truth is that iekku kidnapped him to code for her | 12:01 |
| Yaniel_ | ^^ | 12:01 |
| iekku | :D | 12:02 |
| YourFutureUser | cyberbully | 12:02 |
| YourFutureUser | ;) | 12:02 |
| iekku | no, i won't do that to anyone, but cleaning up bugzilla and testing... | 12:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | iekku: so, tell me about the collection of devices you have: how many ? :D | 12:03 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I would kidnap and get them to painfully deal with my dumb questions :p | 12:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I won't ask about arch, chips, manufacturers ... | 12:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | MFaro-Tusino: you start being dumb, and then evolve | 12:03 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Thankfully, Master Lucien is putting up with me | 12:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | btw, you are virtually kidnapping me so :D | 12:03 |
| MFaro-Tusino | shhh | 12:03 |
| MFaro-Tusino | They don't need to know | 12:04 |
| YourFutureUser | thx you all - PLEASE: KEEP IN MIND - DUAL SIM, DUAL STAND BY, DUAL ACTIVE - thx in advance, bye bye | 12:04 |
| Yaniel_ | MFaro-Tusino: maybe because ye remembers how annoying it was to learn Qt + QML | 12:04 |
| iekku | Sfiet_Konstantin, collection? i don't have anything anymore :/ not have time to play with those | 12:04 |
| iekku | YourFutureUser, thanks | 12:04 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | iekku: ooooh, that's sad :( | 12:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | iekku: but don't you test on different devices ? | 12:05 |
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| iekku | Sfiet_Konstantin, i don't have time to test | 12:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | iekku: ... sad | 12:06 |
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| iekku | Sfiet_Konstantin, it has been at least 2 months now when i have seen latest nemo image, or more | 12:06 |
| iekku | or more = more than 2 months | 12:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | iekku: oO | 12:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | really | 12:06 |
| iekku | :nod: | 12:06 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Who is up for a challenge? | 12:07 |
| iekku | if i'm not active at irc i'm really really really busy | 12:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I can see how busy is at Jolla then | 12:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | MFaro-Tusino: what, debug your code ? :D | 12:07 |
| MFaro-Tusino | no, i wouldn't put that pain on anyone but you | 12:07 |
| MFaro-Tusino | haha | 12:07 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Get the version number out of the project and into a label | 12:08 |
| MFaro-Tusino | that way the label will be dynamically changeable each revision, without me manually changing it | 12:08 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Like i did with Changelog Lucien | 12:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | MFaro-Tusino: easy | 12:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, close to | 12:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I often use macros inside the qmake project file | 12:09 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | MFaro-Tusino: can you add me as a member of your project ? | 12:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | SfietKonstantin on github | 12:09 |
| MFaro-Tusino | sure :) | 12:10 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Anybody else while i am at it :p | 12:10 |
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| Yaniel_ | MFaro-Tusino: what project? | 13:17 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Its a client for blogs i write for | 13:17 |
| MFaro-Tusino | My Nokia Blog and Unleash The Phones | 13:17 |
| MFaro-Tusino | will essentially be able to be used for any site with JSON plugin | 13:18 |
| MFaro-Tusino | *any wordpress site | 13:18 |
| MFaro-Tusino | So read the posts and comments, and also post comments | 13:18 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | How can i get the SDK to build me the source tar? | 13:58 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I want to then use the obs so i can get it on my repo there | 13:58 |
| lbt | MFaro-Tusino: that's actually quite hard at the moment | 13:59 |
| MFaro-Tusino | hmmm, i need Lucien to come back, he did it for ambiance changer | 13:59 |
| lbt | the OBS doesn't have the Sailfish SDK as a build target | 14:00 |
| MFaro-Tusino | will also help me test a few things that are dependent on install | 14:00 |
| MFaro-Tusino | lbt: no but it has mer | 14:00 |
| lbt | yep - you can certainly do it | 14:00 |
| lbt | OK, that's different then | 14:00 |
| MFaro-Tusino | explain? | 14:01 |
| lbt | sailfish apps have a build-dependency on sailfish devel libs | 14:02 |
| lbt | hmm | 14:02 |
| lbt | anyhow, those devel libs aren't on the OBS | 14:03 |
| lbt | so the OBS cannot build Sailfish apps | 14:03 |
| lbt | (yet) | 14:03 |
| veskuh | lbt, you do not need to link to Silica. Its a runtime dependency. | 14:05 |
| lbt | that's what the hmmm was for :) | 14:06 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Veskuh: If i use OBS simply to build under a Mer target, it should work correct? | 14:07 |
| veskuh | You might need some middleware from Nemo, but mostly true yes. | 14:08 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | can you helo me to get the source tar compiled? | 14:14 |
| lbt | sure | 14:16 |
| MFaro-Tusino | :) | 14:16 |
| lbt | I need to fix a couple of things first | 14:16 |
| MFaro-Tusino | no worries, ping me when ready | 14:17 |
| lbt | is your code in git? | 14:17 |
| MFaro-Tusino | yes | 14:18 |
| MFaro-Tusino | one second | 14:18 |
| lbt | github is good | 14:18 |
| MFaro-Tusino | https://github.com/MFaroTusino/MyNokiaBlog-Sailfish | 14:20 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i literally have only coded the "About" section of the app, so don't judge :p | 14:20 |
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| lbt | ok - in the rpm dir you have a yaml file and a spec file | 14:21 |
| lbt | those are not fully fleshed out in the alpha | 14:22 |
| lbt | so we need to fix them up | 14:22 |
| MFaro-Tusino | iekku: know anything about this > http://paste.kde.org/709466/ | 14:22 |
| MFaro-Tusino | lbt: let's do it, always keen to learn | 14:22 |
| lbt | just getting a VM back up ... won't be long | 14:28 |
| MFaro-Tusino | :) | 14:28 |
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| SKonstantin_N9 | MFaro-Tusino hi again | 14:32 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | study qnetworkaccessmanager :) | 14:32 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | okay okay | 14:34 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | and you need to write C++ classes I think | 14:36 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | where can we find thepre-created images for the cover | 14:52 |
| MFaro-Tusino | s/thepre/the pre | 14:53 |
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| lbt | MFaro-Tusino: actually I need a break - I'll bbiab o/ | 14:54 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | dunno about cover | 14:54 |
| MFaro-Tusino | lbt: no worries mate, take your time, i appreicate everything | 14:54 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | there is so much potential in cover pages, i love it | 15:16 |
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| iekku | MFaro-Tusino, i don't have any idea | 15:25 |
| MFaro-Tusino | okay, thanks! Thought maybe it was a known sdk bug | 15:26 |
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| iekku | MFaro-Tusino, i'm not involved in sdk in other level than being sailor :P | 15:40 |
| MFaro-Tusino | ahhh, right, my apologies | 15:41 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | anybody know how to see the page structure via pulleymenu? | 15:52 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I want to do a condition say i went page1>page2>page1 | 15:52 |
| MFaro-Tusino | page2 would pop page1 and not push it to eliminate too many open pages | 15:52 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | 3:30 am here in Sydney, time for bed i think. Enjoy your day/afternoon/night everyone :D | 16:24 |
| lbt | MFaro-Tusino: replacePage | 16:24 |
| lbt | eek - g'night | 16:24 |
| MFaro-Tusino | oh wait | 16:25 |
| MFaro-Tusino | tell me | 16:25 |
| lbt | https://sailfishos.org//sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-pagestack.html#replace-method | 16:25 |
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| lbt | nb some aspects of the PageStack are changing iirc - the dialog stuff is becoming more integrated and there is some currently undocumented method to show 'next page' which is becoming official | 16:27 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | cool, i will await the changes, thanks for your help today mate, appreciate it | 16:29 |
| MFaro-Tusino | talk in few hours | 16:29 |
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| lbt | o/ | 16:30 |
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| YouFutureUser | Hi, I think it could be interesting to know about this site: http://v-play.net/ which is (upon this site itself) Qt game engine or Qt based, easy cross-platform game development, in less time saving money, for all major platforms including iOS, Android, Symbian & more (why Sailfish is not mentioned??), more productive with an integrated toolchain, giving your players the power of creating own levels. Perhaps this could be | 16:42 |
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| YouFutureUser | But: this is just only an info, not a recomendation, you need to verify if this is really ineresting/reliable/malwarefree etc.etc. If yes, perhaps Sailfish ough to be mentioned there? | 16:43 |
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| ajalkane | Being Qt based is not a magical bullet for working on every platform that ships with Qt libraries. | 16:45 |
| ajalkane | Ie. perhaps they have not ported or even tried their library with Sailfish yet | 16:45 |
| Yaniel_ | Sailfish does not really "have a name" yet so no surprise that it is not mentioned there | 16:46 |
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| vgrade | evening all | 18:55 |
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| Yaniel | evening | 19:13 |
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| nsuffys | evening :) | 19:20 |
| vgrade | hi guys, whats new | 19:21 |
| vgrade | I'm looking forward to the sailfishos tutorial sessions | 19:22 |
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| rcg | hey vgrade | 19:34 |
| rcg | am porting one of my apps to sailfish and it looks very good :) | 19:35 |
| rcg | even though it is still in a very early stage | 19:35 |
| rcg | evening nsuffys btw ;) | 19:35 |
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| vgrade | rcg: hey, there seems to be many apps in dev which is great for the pltform | 20:03 |
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| rcg | vgrade, indeed :) | 20:13 |
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| rcg | is there a way to force the complete deployment to the emulator? | 22:23 |
| rcg | or more accurate for re-deployment | 22:23 |
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