Thursday, 2013-03-28

nyovoi, i love your sdk. faaaancy :D00:02
nyovnow if only i had some qt knowhow. or even c++ knowledge under my toolbelt...00:03
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nyovhelp, what do I put into the "target url" of the sdk to add an armv6 target?02:00
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MFaro-Tusinohello sailors ;)02:41
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Jonninyov: target url should point to target rootfs.05:50
Jonni(or atleast in theory it downloads and extracts the .tar.bz2 from the url)05:52
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nyovJonni: thanks, yes I saw the malformed curl call without the target url: "curl  > /srv/mer/targets/SailfishOS-armv6l-armel.tar.bz2"05:58
nyovbut i'm not quite sure what it should download from where?05:58
nyovor, where do I get the rootfs?06:01
nyovdo I have to build it myself?06:02
Jonniarm rootfs has not been released yet, so the sdk is currently x86 only.06:05
nyovI don't suppose there is anything inofficial, alpha-stage, no-batteries-included-like from some obscure chinese warez server available for testing? ;D06:17
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Sfiet_Konstantin!seen MFaroTusino09:19
Merbot`Sfiet_Konstantin: MFaroTusino was last seen in #sailfishos 4 weeks, 0 days, 23 hours, 47 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <MFaroTusino> off to get coding :)09:19
Sfiet_Konstantinhum ...09:19
Sfiet_Konstantin!seen MFaroTusino_09:20
Merbot`Sfiet_Konstantin: I have not seen MFaroTusino_.09:20
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chriadam!seen MFaro-Tusino09:26
Merbot`chriadam: MFaro-Tusino was last seen in #sailfishos 6 hours, 44 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <MFaro-Tusino> hello sailors ;)09:26
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GentSirSfiet_Konstantin, morning mate10:43
Sfiet_Konstantinhello GentSir :)10:44
Sfiet_Konstantinhow are you today ?10:44
GentSirEnjoying my morning coffee10:44
GentSirHow's France this fine day?10:44
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Sfiet_Konstantinwill soon enjoying my lunch10:44
Sfiet_Konstantinright now, I'm in Lausanne, rainy day ...10:44
GentSirThe south of Florida will be very sunny today :)10:45
GentSirLittle chilly, only 23C today10:45
Sfiet_Konstantintake 20 degrees, and you have temp here10:45
GentSirGot a high of 7C in my hometown today10:47
GentSirIt's really warm there10:47
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Sfiet_Konstantinanyway, it is said to be the worst spring of the last y x 10^2 years10:52
Sfiet_Konstantiny in [1, 9]10:52
GentSirI'm still on my first coffee, no math :)10:54
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Sfiet_KonstantinI'm already at comiling llvm so ...11:03
GentSirIt's already after noon for you though11:03
Sfiet_Konstantinnope just noon11:04
Sfiet_Konstantinand I'm rather hungry :P11:04
Sfiet_Konstantinand sleepy11:04
GentSirDon't the French only work 5 hours a day, 3 of those spent drinking coffee?11:04
Sfiet_KonstantinGentSir: hahaha11:04
Sfiet_Konstantinhowever, I'm a student11:04
Sfiet_Konstantinno, french work 8 hours / day11:04
Sfiet_Konstantinbut half of the year they are on strike11:04
GentSirThat's funny stuff11:05
Sfiet_Konstantinthat's the vision of france from USA point of view11:05
Sfiet_Konstantinand I have to ackon that for a stranger, it is chaos in france11:05
Sfiet_Konstantinhowever, when you know the country better, it is easy to find order in chaos11:06
GentSirI didn't say that article was true, I just found it funny11:06
Sfiet_Konstantinindeed it is11:06
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Sfiet_Konstantinbut well, that vision is correct for an external point of view11:06
Sfiet_Konstantinthat's what i want to say :)11:06
GentSirUs Americans aren't much better11:07
GentSirI've worked since I was 15, 80% of my coworkers have been useless slackers11:07
Sfiet_KonstantinFrench people are known as very efficient though11:08
GentSirSo they get in their 3 hours and do as much work as an American does in 10 hours?11:08
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Sfiet_Konstantinthere was a study saying that they were efficient11:09
Sfiet_Konstantinthe problem is not the people11:09
Sfiet_Konstantinit is the institution11:09
Sfiet_Konstantinover protected labour market11:10
GentSirRegulation is good, but sometimes Unionization goes a little too far11:11
GentSirThe classic example of it here is teachers unions for public schools11:11
GentSirIt's practically impossible to fire a tenured public school teacher11:12
Sfiet_Konstantinwell, I don't know what is the best system11:13
Sfiet_Konstantindid not tried them all yet11:13
Sfiet_KonstantinI hope that one day I will :)11:13
GentSirWell, there are much worse systems11:13
Sfiet_KonstantinI would have to say, there is a system that suits you11:13
Sfiet_KonstantinI want something more dynamic right now, since I'm young11:14
* lbt checks backlog and despairs for productivity for both nations11:14
Sfiet_Konstantinso I considered going to the states11:14
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: :D11:14
GentSirThe states aren't bad. Not perfect, but not bad11:14
GentSirlbt, amen11:14
Sfiet_Konstantinor to Finland :D11:14
GentSirWhat's so great about Finland?11:14
Sfiet_KonstantinJolla :D11:14
GentSirah, good point11:15
lbtbest education system in the world11:15
Sfiet_Konstantinnordic countries are said to be nice as well11:15
* lbt is English btw11:15
Sfiet_Konstantinfor many reasons11:15
GentSirYes, I've always wanted to live in Iceland11:15
Sfiet_Konstantintoo cold11:15
GentSirBut doubt I ever will11:15
Sfiet_Konstantinlook, it is called Ice land11:15
GentSirI'm from Michigan, cold doesn't bother me11:15
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GentSirlbt, English as in British?11:16
Sfiet_Konstantinbtw, lbt, right now I'm :
GentSirI feel awful for those guys that use all interpreted languages, no coffee breaks11:17
Sfiet_KonstantinGentSir: there is computing time break :D11:18
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lbtGentSir: yes11:23
lbtSfiet_Konstantin: ah, so you're clearly not using our SDK as it's so blazingly fast even Zorro wouldn't get an en-guarde in...11:23
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Sfiet_KonstantinWell, I launched my optimization python script, see ya tomorrow11:24
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GentSirGuess I DC'd11:24
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: compiling LLVM right now :S11:24
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Sfiet_Konstantinthe SDK is fast, but it eats ram11:27
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GentSirI only have a 2gb system, I'm doing another desktop build with 16gb or possibly 32gb soon so I can really do some work.11:31
Sfiet_Konstantinmaybe i should try to deploy on the iconia instead11:31
Sfiet_Konstantinmaybe not ...11:31
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm gonna cook11:31
Sfiet_Konstantinsee ya11:31
Sfiet_Konstantinsince LLVM takes ages to compile11:31
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lbtSfiet_Konstantin: yeah - I would like some time to look at optimising that - it could be far better under linux11:32
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Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: that would be nice11:33
Sfiet_Konstantindon't know if it is the emu that takes all that ram11:34
Sfiet_Konstantinor the mer VM11:34
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sardiniI try to install sailfish sdk, but : QGtkStyle was unable to detect the current GTK+ theme.20:32
sardiniNo marker found, stopped after 1.00 MiB.20:32
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sardinigtk-theme is ok, now what is 'No marker found, stopped after 1.00MiB'  ?20:58
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sardinibad download?21:01
sardiniis there life here?21:02
sardinimd5 for ?21:06
fk_lxsardini: there is a life here21:13
fk_lxsardini: although it's not a hotline, sometimes you need to wait for answer21:13
fk_lxsardini: as far as I know there is md5 for sdk somewhere online, lbt for sure has posted it somewhere21:14
nyovsardini: md5 is in the topic21:15
sardinioh funny, :)21:16
fk_lxlbt: it wouldn't hurt to put the md5 here
fk_lxlbt: if you would be so kind :-D21:17
fk_lxthat would give +1 to usability to :-P21:18
lbthow to phrase this... +1 usability to a certain subset of users... ?21:19
lbtsardini: was it a bad download?21:19
lbtor  mentions please run "export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0" before running installer21:20
lbtfor some gtk theme issues21:20
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: there are websites (eg ubuntu ?) that displays md5 in an advanced section etc. That's rather nice for newcomers and for experts21:20
fk_lxlbt: Download the 32 bit or 64 bit Linux installer. -> Download the 32 bit (md5) or 64 bit (md5) Linux installer.21:20
Sfiet_Konstantinbtw, hello sardini o/21:21
sardiniprobably a wrong download, now it seems ok21:21
sardinijust a little vbowdrv setup21:22
lbtI'll certainly propose it21:22
lbtI think a better solution would be for QtCreator installer to provide a self-check mechanism21:22
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lbtI think the payload is sufficiently isolated that it could do that21:23
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lbtsource available if anyone wants to take a look ?21:23
sardinihello Sfiet_Konstantin21:23
fk_lxlbt: I can look (but that doesn't mean I will add that md5 check to it) :-)21:26
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sardinilorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur, hello world, sailfishsdk is ok :)21:57
Sfiet_Konstantinsardini: congrats21:58
sardiniwell, if  download is ok, there is no pb... boring... ^^21:59
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SfietKonstantinlbt: ping ??22:44
SfietKonstantinlbt: do you know how to enable SSH access to tablet with sailfish SDK image on it ?22:45
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lbtit should have it by default22:46
lbtyour problem will be that authorized_keys is setup specially22:46
lbtso you'll need to edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config22:46
lbtit's a special image for virtualbox so it expects a mountpoint to share them22:47
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: I cannot ping nor ssh into my device22:47
lbtonce you've done that (and maybe restored StrictMode22:47
Sfiet_Konstantinnmap says that it is all filtered22:47
Sfiet_Konstantinmaybe iptables related ?22:47
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Sfiet_Konstantinconsole what ?22:48
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: I'm using a physical device with Sailfish SDK image on it :D it is a physical device22:48
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: want to get rid of the need of the emu in my dev work22:48
lbtyep, I got that22:49
lbtso does it have a keyboard?22:49
lbtplug in a USB one and ctrl-alt-F222:49
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm in it :)22:49
lbtlike that ^^ ?22:50
Sfiet_Konstantinwell, I mean I'm in the term22:50
lbtto be clear - are you ssh'ed in or console22:50
GentSirSfiet_Konstantin, I thought the tab had a keyboard build in?22:50
GentSir*built in22:50
Sfiet_KonstantinGentSir: nope22:51
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: console22:51
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: ssh do not work so ...22:51
lbtSfiet_Konstantin: so you can check networking now22:51
sardiniSfiet_Konstantin, have you an ip ? lol22:51
Sfiet_KonstantinGentSir: it is sold as a spearated kbd22:51
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: yeah I have one, I can ping the laptop from the tab22:51
Sfiet_Konstantinnot the reverse22:51
lbtstandard ethernet ?22:52
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: wifi22:52
lbtone way ping sounds like something on your LAN is messed up a bit22:54
lbtthe SDK image has no iptables afair22:54
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: well, iptables -L shows that there is one :D22:56
Sfiet_Konstantinseems to be a dependancy for connman22:57
sardiniSfiet_Konstantin, and sshd is running ??22:59
Sfiet_Konstantinyeah it is22:59
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lbtyou have an iptables entry on the emulator image?22:59
lbtoh, you mean iptables command is present, yes, sure23:00
sardiniSfiet_Konstantin, port 222223:01
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: iptables -L returns nothing23:01
lbtsardini: no, that's a NAT trick on the virtualbox23:01
sardiniok sorry23:02
lbtlocalhost:2222 is mapped to emulator 2223:02
sardiniSfiet_Konstantin, just start sshd,  no?23:05
Sfiet_Konstantinhum problem23:05
Sfiet_Konstantintab cannot ping comp23:05
Sfiet_Konstantinok I think that there is something wrong23:09
Sfiet_Konstantinthe two devices cannot communicate23:09
Sfiet_Konstantinwill see that another day23:09
Sfiet_Konstantinthanks for your time lbt, sardini23:09
sardiniSfiet_Konstantin, bad subclass network ?23:10
Sfiet_Konstantinsardini: don't know23:11
sardiniifconfig tell you the netmask23:11
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Sfiet_Konstantinand i hate network stuff23:17
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sardiniif you got your ip by dhcp, the network should be ok23:19
Sfiet_Konstantinbut it is not23:21
sardinisome Gremlins ...23:23
sardinipeople never trust me when I say gremlins destroy computer, mainly windows computer...23:24
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SfietKonstantinI'm thinking that there is some filtering inside the wifi area23:30
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