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pinvok3 | Hey there, is there some kind of git repo where I can download the sailfish os already, or will it be/is it closed source in some way? | 08:04 |
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Yaniel | pinvok3: take a look at mer repos | 08:04 |
Yaniel | sailfish is basically mer/nemomobile with some closed bits | 08:04 |
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Yaniel | you can also use the emulator image that comes with the sdk | 08:05 |
pinvok3 | Ive already tried the SDK when it came out for linux. But I wanted to try to port the system to my N9. But I guess functions like calling and messaging are still not implemented, right? | 08:06 |
Yaniel | check the mer wiki | 08:06 |
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fk_lx | pinvok3: maybe in future image for N9/N950 will be released, who knows | 08:07 |
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Yaniel | it would seem that you can hack something together since the mer wiki appears to have pages about installing mer on N9 | 08:09 |
pinvok3 | Allright, thanks (: .. yeah, I hope that too. Phones are expensive (: | 08:09 |
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faenil | o/ | 13:02 |
Yaniel | hi faenil | 13:02 |
faenil | what symbol can I use to recognize Sailfish? | 13:02 |
faenil | __SAILFISH__ ? :D | 13:02 |
faenil | is there anything already defined? | 13:02 |
faenil | Stskeeps, ^ | 13:04 |
dm8tbr | faenil: check attila's postings | 13:04 |
dm8tbr | on the mailing list | 13:05 |
faenil | crap I'm still not subscribed!! | 13:05 |
faenil | which mailing list? | 13:05 |
dm8tbr | https://lists.sailfishos.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel | 13:05 |
faenil | thx | 13:06 |
faenil | dm8tbr, can't find any mention of a defined var :/ | 13:09 |
dm8tbr | https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-March/000059.html | 13:09 |
faenil | thx | 13:10 |
faenil | was looking at april's | 13:10 |
dm8tbr | note the warnings though | 13:13 |
faenil | well yeah, but if there's no better alternative :/ | 13:20 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | not very clean ... | 13:24 |
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faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, if you've got better ideas, just write :) | 13:32 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 13:33 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | actually, by thinking again it is the best way I think: some specific Qt guards or qmake checks will need to patch Qt inside Sailfish | 13:34 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | but Sailfish is mer ... | 13:34 |
faenil | :P | 13:34 |
dm8tbr | one would hope there will be better ways in the next SDK version | 13:35 |
jukkaeklund | make sure the point is brought up in devel mail list | 13:42 |
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dm8tbr | jukkaeklund: the thread that I quoted brought this up | 14:11 |
dm8tbr | but we should probably prod again so that lbt doesn't forget | 14:12 |
jukkaeklund | wouildnt hurt I guess | 14:14 |
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faenil | seems like build vm is stuck :/ | 14:33 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | kill it | 14:35 |
spider-mario | with fire | 14:36 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | spider-mario: no, even worse: with SIGKILL :D | 14:37 |
spider-mario | aouch | 14:37 |
Nicd- | when SIGKILL doesn't work you know you're in real trouble | 14:38 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | indeed | 14:38 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | with virtualbox that is often called "swapping" :D | 14:38 |
faenil | is there anything wrong with using -j with qmake and build vm? | 14:39 |
faenil | make sorry | 14:39 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | dunno | 14:40 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | let QtC do it itself | 14:40 |
faenil | I'm letting t | 14:40 |
faenil | and build vm gets stuck :/ | 14:40 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | ... | 14:40 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | ram ? | 14:40 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | what kind of stuck ? | 14:41 |
faenil | kind of it kills the compiler itself | 14:41 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Oo | 14:42 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | well, that's a problem indeed | 14:42 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | what are you trying to compile ? | 14:42 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | webkit ? | 14:42 |
faenil | nope, it should take 1 min to compile | 14:43 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | strange | 14:43 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | is that an oss project faenil ? | 14:46 |
faenil | nope | 14:46 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | would love to try compile it here | 14:46 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | :( | 14:46 |
faenil | wth man... | 14:47 |
faenil | obj/main.o: file not recognized: File truncated | 14:47 |
faenil | argh | 14:47 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | check disk space | 14:47 |
faenil | I've just formatted man :;P | 14:47 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | just giving ideas | 14:48 |
faenil | ;) | 14:49 |
kaltsi | faenil: sometimes that can be a side-effect of parallel build.. if the makefiles are not well defined the compiler can try to build the same file twice | 14:50 |
faenil | makefile is generated by qmake.. | 14:51 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | pure Qt ? | 14:51 |
kaltsi | have you defined the parallelism constraints or whatever it requires.. does it have multiple subdirs? | 14:51 |
faenil | and I've never had such a problem before | 14:51 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | increase mem allocated for SDK VM ? | 14:51 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | ssh into it and compile here ? | 14:51 |
faenil | :) | 14:51 |
kaltsi | the sdk vm is quite slow in handling files.. with slow filesystems you will see parallel build failures that you've never seen before :) | 14:52 |
faenil | kaltsi, alright :) | 14:52 |
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faenil | is there some info regarding folders and filesystem on Sailfish? | 15:01 |
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faenil | like what's available to apps, what's the folder for local data...ecc | 15:02 |
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spider-mario | tup is nice in that it avoids badly specified parallel builds | 15:03 |
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spider-mario | dependencies on generated files must be explicit | 15:03 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: QDesktopServices is your friend :) | 15:03 |
spider-mario | (but dependencies on hand-written files are detected by tup when it runs the command) | 15:03 |
spider-mario | outputs must be specified as well | 15:03 |
faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, well yeah but that just tells me the paths | 15:06 |
faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, which is not what I asked :P | 15:07 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: just in case they change | 15:07 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | and I really don't know where they are | 15:07 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | is that the same as on Harmattan | 15:07 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | with MyDocs ? | 15:08 |
faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, I meant documentation about | 15:08 |
faenil | don't know.. | 15:08 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | ah | 15:08 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | there is none | 15:08 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | but it is safe to use QDesktopServices to get path to cache | 15:08 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | to config | 15:08 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | etc. | 15:08 |
faenil | yes | 15:08 |
faenil | but it's not what I asked :D | 15:08 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | ah :D | 15:09 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sorry | 15:09 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | what's _available_ | 15:09 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | well, the answer is pretty much the same I guess | 15:09 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | path pointed by qdesktopservices should be the one allowed (as on all other platforms) | 15:09 |
faenil | Lucien, I don't need paths, I need documentation...if there's none, no problem :) | 15:10 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | none yet I think :) | 15:13 |
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faenil | QDesktopServices::DataLocation is /home/nemo/.local/share/data// | 15:27 |
faenil | and it's not "executable" | 15:27 |
faenil | isn't that strange? | 15:29 |
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faenil | and is it normal that DataLocation path doesn't exist? | 16:11 |
faenil | or at least exists() returns false | 16:11 |
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faenil | (the general path, not app specific) | 16:11 |
faenil | lbt, ^ | 16:13 |
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faenil | is there a way to simulate multitouch on Emulator? | 17:26 |
fk_lx | faenil: I guess virtualbox doesn't support multitouch | 17:34 |
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faenil | hence the simulation :D | 17:35 |
fk_lx | faenil: searching the web, and found sth about app for OSX that allows simulating multitouch in Vbox by putting some shortcuts to certain gestures | 17:37 |
faenil | cool :) | 17:37 |
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fk_lx | faenil: probably if you would plug-in a device that has multitouch that could also work | 17:41 |
faenil | what about any notebook's touchpad :P | 17:41 |
fk_lx | heh, good question | 17:41 |
faenil | they've been supporting multitouch for quite a while | 17:41 |
faenil | ehehe :D | 17:41 |
faenil | anyway, gtg, bbl | 17:42 |
faenil | ;) | 17:42 |
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