Thursday, 2013-04-18

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pinvok3Hey there, is there some kind of git repo where I can download the sailfish os already, or will it be/is it closed source in some way?08:04
Yanielpinvok3: take a look at mer repos08:04
Yanielsailfish is basically mer/nemomobile with some closed bits08:04
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Yanielyou can also use the emulator image that comes with the sdk08:05
pinvok3Ive already tried the SDK when it came out for linux. But I wanted to try to port the system to my N9. But I guess functions like calling and messaging are still not implemented, right?08:06
Yanielcheck the mer wiki08:06
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fk_lxpinvok3: maybe in future image for N9/N950 will be released, who knows08:07
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Yanielit would seem that you can hack something together since the mer wiki appears to have pages about installing mer on N908:09
pinvok3Allright, thanks (: .. yeah, I hope that too. Phones are expensive (:08:09
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Yanielhi faenil13:02
faenilwhat symbol can I use to recognize Sailfish?13:02
faenil__SAILFISH__ ? :D13:02
faenilis there anything already defined?13:02
faenilStskeeps, ^13:04
dm8tbrfaenil: check attila's postings13:04
dm8tbron the mailing list13:05
faenilcrap I'm still not subscribed!!13:05
faenilwhich mailing list?13:05
faenildm8tbr, can't find any mention of a defined var :/13:09
faenilwas looking at april's13:10
dm8tbrnote the warnings though13:13
faenilwell yeah, but if there's no better alternative :/13:20
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Sfiet_Konstantinnot very clean ...13:24
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faenilSfiet_Konstantin, if you've got better ideas, just write :)13:32
Sfiet_Konstantinactually, by thinking again it is the best way I think: some specific Qt guards or qmake checks will need to patch Qt inside Sailfish13:34
Sfiet_Konstantinbut Sailfish is mer ...13:34
dm8tbrone would hope there will be better ways in the next SDK version13:35
jukkaeklundmake sure the point is brought up in devel mail list13:42
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dm8tbrjukkaeklund: the thread that I quoted brought this up14:11
dm8tbrbut we should probably prod again so that lbt doesn't forget14:12
jukkaeklundwouildnt hurt I guess14:14
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faenilseems like build vm is stuck :/14:33
Sfiet_Konstantinkill it14:35
spider-mariowith fire14:36
Sfiet_Konstantinspider-mario: no, even worse: with SIGKILL :D14:37
Nicd-when SIGKILL doesn't work you know you're in real trouble14:38
Sfiet_Konstantinwith virtualbox that is often called "swapping" :D14:38
faenilis there anything wrong with using -j with qmake and build vm?14:39
faenilmake sorry14:39
Sfiet_Konstantinlet QtC do it itself14:40
faenilI'm letting t14:40
faeniland build vm gets stuck :/14:40
Sfiet_Konstantinram ?14:40
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat kind of stuck ?14:41
faenilkind of it kills the compiler itself14:41
Sfiet_Konstantinwell, that's a problem indeed14:42
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat are you trying to compile ?14:42
Sfiet_Konstantinwebkit ?14:42
faenilnope, it should take 1 min to compile14:43
Sfiet_Konstantinis that an oss project faenil ?14:46
Sfiet_Konstantinwould love to try compile it here14:46
faenilwth man...14:47
faenilobj/main.o: file not recognized: File truncated14:47
Sfiet_Konstantincheck disk space14:47
faenilI've just formatted man :;P14:47
Sfiet_Konstantinjust giving ideas14:48
kaltsifaenil: sometimes that can be a side-effect of parallel build.. if the makefiles are not well defined the compiler can try to build the same file twice14:50
faenilmakefile is generated by qmake..14:51
Sfiet_Konstantinpure Qt ?14:51
kaltsihave you defined the parallelism constraints or whatever it requires.. does it have multiple subdirs?14:51
faeniland I've never had such a problem before14:51
Sfiet_Konstantinincrease mem allocated for SDK VM ?14:51
Sfiet_Konstantinssh into it and compile here ?14:51
kaltsithe sdk vm is quite slow in handling files.. with slow filesystems you will see parallel build failures that you've never seen before :)14:52
faenilkaltsi, alright :)14:52
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faenilis there some info regarding folders and filesystem on Sailfish?15:01
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faenillike what's available to apps, what's the folder for local data...ecc15:02
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spider-mariotup is nice in that it avoids badly specified parallel builds15:03
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spider-mariodependencies on generated files must be explicit15:03
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: QDesktopServices is your friend :)15:03
spider-mario(but dependencies on hand-written files are detected by tup when it runs the command)15:03
spider-mariooutputs must be specified as well15:03
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, well yeah but that just tells me the paths15:06
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, which is not what I asked :P15:07
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: just in case they change15:07
Sfiet_Konstantinand I really don't know where they are15:07
Sfiet_Konstantinis that the same as on Harmattan15:07
Sfiet_Konstantinwith MyDocs ?15:08
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, I meant documentation about15:08
faenildon't know..15:08
Sfiet_Konstantinthere is none15:08
Sfiet_Konstantinbut it is safe to use QDesktopServices to get path to cache15:08
Sfiet_Konstantinto config15:08
faenilbut it's not what I asked :D15:08
Sfiet_Konstantinah :D15:09
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat's _available_15:09
Sfiet_Konstantinwell, the answer is pretty much the same I guess15:09
Sfiet_Konstantinpath pointed by qdesktopservices should be the one allowed (as on all other platforms)15:09
faenilLucien, I don't need paths, I need documentation...if there's none, no problem :)15:10
Sfiet_Konstantinnone yet I think :)15:13
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faenilQDesktopServices::DataLocation is /home/nemo/.local/share/data//15:27
faeniland it's not "executable"15:27
faenilisn't that strange?15:29
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faeniland is it normal that DataLocation path doesn't exist?16:11
faenilor at least exists() returns false16:11
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faenil(the general path, not app specific)16:11
faenillbt, ^16:13
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faenilis there a way to simulate multitouch on Emulator?17:26
fk_lxfaenil: I guess virtualbox doesn't support multitouch17:34
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faenilhence the simulation :D17:35
fk_lxfaenil: searching the web, and found sth about app for OSX that allows simulating multitouch in Vbox by putting some shortcuts to certain gestures17:37
faenilcool :)17:37
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fk_lxfaenil: probably if you would plug-in a device that has multitouch that could also work17:41
faenilwhat about any notebook's touchpad :P17:41
fk_lxheh, good question17:41
faenilthey've been supporting multitouch for quite a while17:41
faenilehehe :D17:41
faenilanyway, gtg, bbl17:42
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