Wednesday, 2013-06-19

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AndIRC_hi  xavinux11:11
xavinuxhi AnDIRC how are you11:12
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onuraticazzacarna: What's cooking in Nokia? http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/19/4446096/microsoft-and-nokia-nearly-made-deal-for-mobile-phone-business20:49
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Morpog_PCelops mission almost completed20:59
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onuratiyep, it seems so21:01
ajalkaneLuckily the small boat is sailing in the seas21:05
* detrout hopes it sails to the US soon21:06
ajalkaneThere are sharks and mines in US, better sail there only once the boat is armed :)21:06
detroutmaybe instead of a small boat you could aim for a small stealthy submarine?21:08
detroutThough which sharks & mines were you thinking of?21:08
ajalkaneI mainly think of patent mines and lawyer sharks, but there's probably all kinds of hazards in the dangerous shores of US that I can't even think of21:09
Morpog_PCpatent system in US is aweful21:10
ajalkaneBeing a submarine is no guarantee of avoiding submarine patents also ;)21:10
detroutcurses!21:10
Morpog_PCApple owns the kinetic scrolling bounce back patent21:10
Morpog_PCsailfish uses it21:10
detroutso is that why the N9 was only availabe on import?21:10
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Morpog_PCno, that was elops fault21:10
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ajalkanedetrout: I'd say N9's limited availability was Elop's great masterplan only21:11
detroutright ... don't have any opportunity to directly compare harmattan with windows mobile?21:12
ajalkaneI don't think it was about comparing. But N9 would have eaten into Lumias sales. It could have been PR nightmare.21:15
Morpog_PCL800 was not sold good at all21:15
Morpog_PCN9 did sell great in Asia as far as I heard21:15
ajalkaneImagine how poorly it would have sold if N9 was there also21:16
Morpog_PCimagine how it would have sold in major markets with good ads and without doong it's ecosystem21:16
ajalkaneBetter than Lumia, I'd imagine :)21:16
Morpog_PCdoong = dooming21:16
Morpog_PCsymbian would have sold better too21:17
Morpog_PCand there were more Qt apps developed for Symbian and Harmattan21:17
Morpog_PCsymbian could have been softly outphased21:17
Morpog_PCAt least thats how I would have planned it. But I don't earm millions of $ for such decissions :)21:19
ajalkaneFrankly, from the outset it seems that Nokia's management was/is so entrenched in their own views that I'm frankly glad that they went their way and Jolla sailed free - it wouldn't have happened otherwise. There is a possibility now for a much better product than being stiffled by Nokia's management, albeit with much greater risk21:21
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Morpog_PCwell, the only good thing elop did was downsizing Nokia21:23
onuratimay the eternal winds be with Sailfish... cheers!21:24
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ajalkaneMay the firey winds from the burning platform propel jolla and the sailfish to shores of safety. Amen.21:27
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Morpog_PCAnd to end it with my old Burning platform picture: https://twitter.com/Morpog/status/222796430719455232/photo/121:30
ajalkanePicture should have a tactical nuke coming towards Meltemi :)21:31
Morpog_PC:)21:31
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ericccxavinux: https://mobile.twitter.com/alejoasotelo/status/347095101773840384/photo/121:36
ericccArgentina magazine21:36
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detroutI do have to agree the development tools for N9 seemed a lot nicer than early android.21:39
detroutthough its tough since android has had time to mature.21:39
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xavinuxericc: :) viva argentina!21:45
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detrouti was curious if there was any information about what mapping software jolla was planning on using?21:57
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GentSirdetrout, no news on that yet, at least as far as I know. Wouldn't be surprised to see Ovi maps licensed, or even Google Maps if it gets big enough22:08
detroutOk ty GentSir. I was assuming they were going to need to license from someone. Building a good map database is fairly expensive.22:10
GentSirOvi is what I'm betting on22:11
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GentSirJolla is mostly ex-nokia guys as well22:11
detroutnod22:12
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