Friday, 2013-08-09

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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:I've checked the docs and you can even put a Switch{} in a Pulley menu, so I think dynamic text should work ;)09:33
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:I've tried it!09:39
Superpelicanit works09:39
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Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: what's the problem wth thtat ?10:00
Superpelicanit works! :P10:01
SuperpelicanDynamic text in Pulley menus works!10:01
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:I wanted to show you that dynamic text works in pulley menus, because you wasn't sure ;)10:08
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: well, I wasn't sure about a variable number of elements in the pulley menu10:10
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:I think you misunderstood me10:13
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:I didn't mean a variable amount of menu tiems10:14
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:But just change the score in a Menu Item on a C++ signal10:14
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:And how's the development of Weatherfish going?10:32
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Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: it is not going :P10:39
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khertanHello !12:59
khertani frequently use InfoBanner on Harmattan to signal to user some errors : (like connection timeout on background sync ...) which silica item could i use to signal user errors ?13:00
Sfiet_Konstantinkhertan: well13:01
Sfiet_Konstantinmaybe you will need notifications13:01
Sfiet_Konstantinbut they are not here yet IIRC13:01
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yuntapiee: no, not much13:20
yuntawell, maybe sometimes13:20
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:The guy without a SailfishOS app template replied on the ML16:00
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:He followed your advice16:00
Superpelicanit's not there16:00
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:I've had that problem too16:01
faenilany fingerterm user in here?16:01
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:with the 1st alpha16:01
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:Turned out I didn't have a working kit16:01
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:So maybe he should check if the MerSDK kit is OK16:01
Superpelicanmaybe Qt Creator can't find the compiler or Qt etc.16:02
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SuperpelicansledgeSim:Could you help me with QML<->C++?16:37
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Superpelicanor aren't you a QML/C++ expert either?16:38
Superpelicanit's actually not a very advanced thing16:38
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sledgeSimSuperpelican, I always wanted to learn it :)16:39
SuperpelicansledgeSim:but do you know the basics?16:40
sledgeSimQML is easy, but C++ bindings is the next thing I want to look into16:40
sledgeSimdon't ask to ask16:40
sledgeSimjust ask :)16:40
sledgeSimI'll be happy to help if I can, or anyone else on this channel16:40
SuperpelicanI have a C++/Qt signal16:40
Superpelicanand I would like to connect it to a QML/JS function16:40
Superpelicanto update a QML object property16:40
Superpelicanbut to what object should I connect it?16:40
Superpelicanthe function is defined in a Page{}16:41
sledgeSimSignals and slots created using Qt in C++ are inheritely valid in QML.16:41
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SuperpelicansledgeSim:Would I need to expose my Qt/C++ object to QML with setContextProperty() then?16:42
sledgeSim     emit partyStarted(time);16:44
sledgeSim     onPartyStarted: console.log("This party started rockin' at " + time);16:44
Superpelicanthat example instantiates C++ classes in QML16:44
SuperpelicanI instantiate my class in C++/Qt16:45
sledgeSim17:44 < Superpelican> that example instantiates C++ classes in QML16:45
sledgeSim^ could you back it up in code?16:45
SuperpelicansledgeSim:of course :)16:46
Superpelicanit registers the types to QML16:46
Superpelicanso the C++ can be instantiated in QML16:46
SuperpelicansledgeSim: +
sledgeSimand you cannot instantiate your class the same way?16:50
SuperpelicanI'd prefer not to16:50
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SuperpelicanI want to implement my app logic in C++16:50
Superpelicanand use as less JS as possible16:50
Superpelicanonly for updating properties16:50
sledgeSimSuperpelican, ?16:51
sledgeSimnote links are broken due to nokia/necrosoft ;)16:52
sledgeSimand more links:
sledgeSimsorry, all i can help is this16:55
sledgeSimsetContextProperty looks to be most prevalent16:55
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sledgeSimyou want to decouple ui and logic completely..17:05
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Superpelicanthat's not exactly the reason17:08
Superpelicanjust want to use C++ instead of JS17:09
sledgeSimso a bit of setContextProperty in C++ can't hurt then? ;)17:10
SuperpelicanI haven't got setContextProperty to work17:11
Superpelicanit broke my QObject::connects17:11
sledgeSime :)17:11
Superpelicanwell I got it to work a while ago17:11
Superpelicanbut that was still alpha 117:11
Superpelicanand without QObject::connect17:11
sledgeSimo dear17:12
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sledgeSimthat's weird when you add ::connect things start to break..17:16
sledgeSimon the first place17:16
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SuperpelicanNicd-:Could you help with some QML<->C++ stuff?17:21
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Nicd-probably not, I don't really know QML17:22
Nicd-and C++ more at a high level17:22
SuperpelicanNicd-:You mean has in high level programming?17:22
Superpelicanopposite of low-level (for example kernel programming)17:23
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Superpelicanor as in skill level?17:23
Nicd-high level as in higher level of abstraction17:23
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SuperpelicanNicd-:So your more a Python/Ruby/Perl guy?17:24
Nicd-I write Python at my day job and Elixir at home17:24
SuperpelicanNicd-:What's Elixir?17:24
Nicd-a language based on Erlang which runs on the Erlang VM17:25
SuperpelicanNicd-:Is it a specific purpose language?17:25
spider-marioit’s mainly used for server things, but not only17:25
spider-marioWings 3D is written in Erlang as well17:25
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spider-marioits main feature is fault tolerance17:26
Superpelicanwill look it up on <my_search_engine>17:26
Nicd-Superpelican: Erlang/Elixir is good for robust, fault tolerant distributed systems17:26
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spider-marioerlang programs are written as trees of workers and supervisors17:26
spider-mariowhich don’t have to run on the same machine17:27
spider-mariothey communicate via message passing17:27
Nicd-I'm using Elixir to learn functional programming concepts, writing an IRC bot as my first task (naturally)17:27
SuperpelicanNicd-:Are functional programming often used for AI then?17:27
Nicd-I don't know, why?17:28
SuperpelicanErlang doesn't look like an average programming language17:28
Nicd-Elixir's syntax is quite a bit more friendly17:29
SuperpelicanI'll look up Elixir17:29
Nicd-and you can pretty much convert any Erlang code 1:1 to Elixir17:29
Nicd-and call any Erlang code from Elixir with no overhead17:29
Superpelicanah I see17:30
SuperpelicanElixir is very Python like17:30
Nicd-yeah, kind of Python + Ruby + Erlang17:30
SuperpelicanI learned a bit of Python17:30
Superpelicanbefore starting learning C++17:31
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SuperpelicanA Python book introduced me to the basic concepts of OOP17:31
Superpelicanso I'm very happy I read that book17:31
Superpelicanand started with Python17:31
Superpelicanlearning OOP and C++ at the same time17:31
Superpelicanwould be much more difficult17:32
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Nicd-yeah, our university teaches C++ on basic programming courses. I'd prefer they started with something like Python17:37
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Nicd-so people can write programs that do more than just ask for your age and repeat it :P17:38
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spider-marioyou think it’s bad? they teach us Fortran.17:43
spider-mario(and C)17:43
Nicd-at least not COBOL17:43
spider-marioPROCEDURE DIVISION17:44
Nicd-STOP RUN.17:45
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