Saturday, 2013-09-21

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Doraldhey12:54
Doraldquestion:12:54
Doraldto install sailfish sdk qt5 alpha on ubuntu12:55
Doraldshould uninstall the previous version of sdk ?12:55
Dorald?12:57
zetazDorald: yes : https://sailfishos.org//develop.html12:58
zetaz"Existing SailfishOS Alpha SDK installations must be removed by running the "SDKMaintenanceTool" found in the installation directory."12:58
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Doraldthanks zetaz13:00
zetazDorald: and I think from now, the update system will work for next changes. Read that somewhere on twitter I think13:00
fk_lxDonald: yep the new SDK updates itself :-), so probably no more removing and installing the stuff from zero13:03
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Doraldok guys thanks for your help14:01
Doraldi installed the new sdk14:02
Doraldthe simulator works but my example app doens't14:02
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Doraldapp output:14:03
DoraldQML debugging is enabled. Only use this in a safe environment.14:04
DoraldUsing Wayland-EGL14:04
DoraldModule 'Sailfish.Silica' does not contain a module identifier directive - it cannot be protected from external registrations.14:04
DoraldMLocalThemeDaemonClient::MLocalThemeDaemonClient(const QString&, QObject*) Theme:  "jolla-ambient"14:04
DoraldLocalThemeDaemonClient: Looking for assets in ("/usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch", "/usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch")14:04
DoraldQFSFileEngine::open: No file name specified14:04
DoraldUnable to open input file: No such file or directory14:04
Doraldbool QFeedbackFFMemless::initialiseEffects() Error: did not find vibra spi device!14:04
Doraldxcb_connection_has_error() returned true14:04
DoraldWarning: specifying an object instance for initialPage is sub-optimal - prefer to use a Component14:04
DoraldDeclarativeWindowAttached: unsupported platform: "wayland"14:04
DoraldDeclarativeWindowAttached: unsupported platform: "wayland"14:04
Morpog_PCDorald use pastie.org or something similar for long logs please14:04
Doraldsorry14:05
Doraldhttp://pastie.org/834406414:06
Doraldi run ubuntu 13.414:07
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zetazDorald: did you tried with QtCreator helloworld app ? or is it something you wrote ?14:14
Doraldi started from here14:14
Doraldhttps://sailfishos.org/develop-firstapp-article.html14:15
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zetazDorald: that should work...14:18
Doraldyes the app works but in the Application output i get some errors14:22
Doraldis this normal ?14:22
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LakorvSay, I've seen videos of Sailfish running on some tablets and various hardware. Will we see ports to common Android phones for those interested in using the OS on phones they already own?17:51
Stskeepsperhaps one day - but what devices do you desire to put it on?17:54
LakorvI was thinking perhaps the Nexus 4 would be a good candidate due to its lack of lockdowns.17:55
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Lakorvbut wasn't thinking too closely of any phone specificly. Was more of a general thing. ‘Will people eventually get to put it on their mid–high range phones?’17:56
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Stskeepswell, the techniques/sw for porting the core and middleware is already there17:57
Stskeepsthe UI isn't published for ARM17:57
Stskeepsatm17:57
Morpog_PCbut you can put Nemomobile on it instead :)17:58
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LakorvNemomobile? Also, that's a good point re: ARM. Though a few Intel Android phones do exist…17:59
Morpog_PCLakorv, Sailfish OS = MER Core + Nemomobile Middleware + SailfishOS UI18:01
Morpog_PCNemomobile = MER Core + Nemomobile Middleware + Nemomobile UI18:01
Morpog_PCand Nemomobile is atm changing from old qtcomponents to new Glacier components18:01
Morpog_PCHere is a bnlog about new Nemomobile UI http://play.qwazix.com/grog/18:02
LakorvI'll have to admit, the Sailfish UI is a major reason for wanting to try out the Sailfish OS, but I'll have a look at that link.18:03
Stskeeps:nod:18:03
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Morpog_PCLakorv, when you have Nemomobile running on your device, it's easy to get sialfishOS on it once it's released for ARM18:05
locusfwell we don't know how easy yet :)18:05
Lakorvyeah, would sound like it, given how they (presumably) would use the same kernel, adaptions and middleware.18:05
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LakorvMust say I'm a bit confused as to how someone got Sailfish running on a Nexus 7. Has the complete Sailfish OS been released?18:17
Morpog_PCJolla people of course18:17
Morpog_PCSome guys ported the x86 emulator to x86 tablets18:18
Lakorvaha.18:19
Morpog_PChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIkfaxzIKrM18:19
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LakorvI must say the Nemomobile Glacier UI looks interesting. Is it anywhere near usable?18:31
locusfkeyboard only at the moment18:32
Lakorvokay, so still mainly a concept.18:33
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Morpog_MobileOld ui works18:52
Morpog_MobileLooks like n9 harmattan18:52
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G-RayHi !22:26
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G-RayWhen will we be able to fetch the sailfish sources :) ?22:27
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fk_lxG-Ray: well you have most of them already public - see Mer and Nemo Mobile22:30
fk_lxG-Ray: only the thin layer responsible for Sailfish UI is not open (but who knows, it might be one day)22:30
G-RayOh, I was thinking UI would be open :( Then we'll not be able to bake ROMs for our phones ?22:33
fk_lxG-Ray: well it might be open at some point, let's see what future holds22:39
G-RayI hope so !22:40
fk_lxG-Ray: they didn't say they want it to be closed all the time22:40
fk_lxG-Ray: but one thing is more than sure, you cannot expect opening the Sailfish UI before device hits the market22:41
fk_lxG-Ray: otherwise some cheap manufacturers would sell their own phones with Sailfish UI and that could make Jolla doomed22:41
G-RayWhen the first phones will be released ?22:42
fk_lxG-Ray: and I guess you want to see good GNU/Linux phones in future22:42
fk_lxG-Ray: by the end of this year22:42
G-Rayok, thank  you :)22:43
fk_lxG-Ray: no problem :-)22:44
G-RayFrom what I saw, sailfish is android drivers compatible ? Does it mean that's would be (relatively) easy to port it on an existing phone ?22:45
sardini:-1: erreur : Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. No private key file given.  ?22:46
sardiniif I load an old project all it's ok, but when nI do a new projcect ssh error ?22:47
fk_lxsardini: mhm, interesting22:48
sardiniI m not sure if it's from last update..22:49
sardinibut last update are very minor22:49
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