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blue787 | Saw the app list on twitter, very awesome | 05:25 |
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blue787 | If that's any indication as to the apps coming with the Jolla experience im all in | 05:26 |
blue787 | Looking forward to more demos | 05:27 |
fk_lx | blue787: some of the apps are the ones from Android | 05:28 |
fk_lx | blue787: other are native Sailfish apps | 05:28 |
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blue787 | Yes I saw the "port from Android" demarcation on those apps | 05:37 |
blue787 | Will there be native IRC char apps ? | 05:37 |
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fk_lx | blue787: well there is IRC chatter | 05:41 |
fk_lx | blue787: also available on N9 | 05:42 |
blue787 | Ok | 05:42 |
blue787 | Great | 05:42 |
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Morpog_N9___ | irc chatter rocks! | 06:42 |
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Morpog_N9___ | which list on twitter? | 06:44 |
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HappyNarval | Hi everybody. Just a little question : where can I find references to build sailfishOS for a device like, let's say, Pandaboard or equivalent ? | 08:52 |
Stskeeps | you don't typically atm but we're working to build documented knowledge for hackers to port the middleware and core to android devices | 08:52 |
Stskeeps | as the factual binaries for the UI isn't out for ARM just yet | 08:52 |
dm8tbr | having a look at nemomobile helps tho | 08:55 |
HappyNarval | Ok. So if I understand, we can "imagine", in a near or far future, a repository system "ala Android" and a documentation kb (wiki) that helps to port SailfishOS to another device (aka not Jolla phone) ?? | 08:56 |
HappyNarval | - Or adapt/change (a little bit) SailfishOS ?? - | 08:57 |
Stskeeps | somewhat yes, remember sailfish device = sailfish ui (not open atm) + nemo mobile middleware + mer core + a hardware adaptation | 08:58 |
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HappyNarval | Sailfish ui is more or less like Quartz (on mac OS X) ? And a sailfish device is like an (Quartz + Darwin + a hardware adaptation) device (a Mac or Hackintsh) ? | 09:07 |
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HappyNarval | Another think: I can not find, in interfaces design principles, if a application setting(s) must be accessed trough application pulley menu (within application) or trough Home general applications settings. Any UI guidelines available ?? | 09:27 |
Stskeeps | yes, have you checked sailfishos.org? | 09:27 |
HappyNarval | Humm. Yes, If we adopt the "Effortless interaction" rule, an in-app settings is more ergonomic. But may be in a global settings enviroment is more coherent? | 09:30 |
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sledges | HappyNarval, you already have hardware adaptation kb (wiki) + mer core + nemomobile middleware (the last two already are already at hand for multiple architectures) | 09:50 |
sledges | and new nemo ui is in works (the old one also reachable) | 09:51 |
sledges | so you can start glimpsing into https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide | 09:51 |
sledges | and https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step | 09:52 |
sledges | for graphics layer is all going for Wayland/Qt5 nowadays | 09:52 |
sledges | the still missing bits are libhybris and putting device's android land to submission | 09:53 |
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sledges | pandaboard hardware adaptation exists as well: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Omap4/Pandaboard | 09:55 |
sledges | the running demo is however Xorg/qt4 (the latter two are being deprecated in sailfish land) | 09:55 |
sledges | but you could get a picture of what packages are needed: https://build.merproject.org/project/packages?project=nemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Ati%3Aomap4%3Apandaboard | 09:56 |
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HappyNarval | tks for reading references... | 10:21 |
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sledges | yw, they are not in pristine shape, but at least they are ;P | 10:27 |
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blue787 | Question, when I double tap to start my Jolla phone will all msg apps be able to post a short notifications oh the start up screen ? | 16:28 |
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Aard | blue787: you mean the notification icons on the lock screen? | 16:37 |
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Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y64ja7WBHU8 | 18:14 |
mcpi | neat | 18:22 |
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sardini | nice Stskeeps | 18:25 |
piggz | nice | 18:26 |
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blue787 | Hi guys loved the new Sailfish demo by Marc today | 21:06 |
Nicd- | it really does look great | 21:11 |
ottulo | oo whatsapp | 21:16 |
Nicd- | that is nice, can talk to my wife for free :) | 21:16 |
ottulo | same here | 21:16 |
Nicd- | tried to get her to use trillian or something similar before but it wasn't simple enough | 21:17 |
ottulo | now I just wish there'll be an app for viewing office files (preferably both MS office and Open/LibreOffice) | 21:17 |
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Yaniel | calligra? | 21:18 |
Yaniel | IIRC Jolla has been involved with them | 21:18 |
Nicd- | there's an LO viewer for android in development | 21:19 |
Nicd- | maybe that could be ported too | 21:19 |
ottulo | great | 21:19 |
ottulo | seeing as I've only used symbian "smart"phones so far I am not really aware of all the apps for android/harmattan etc | 21:19 |
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blue787 | The ported apps maintain their Android looks? | 21:22 |
Nicd- | the android apps aren't ported, they run unmodified afaik | 21:23 |
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Nicd- | but porting would allow them to look like native sailfish apps and use sailfish features (probably be more performant too) | 21:23 |
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Wnt | I wonder why the active application UI doesn't slide to the same direction as they are pushed like they do in N9 | 21:31 |
Wnt | instead they appear more transparent the more you push | 21:31 |
Wnt | to reveal the whole width of the home / status UI the active application UI could do both effects at the same time, appear transparent and slide | 21:33 |
Nicd- | but then you'd have to slide all the way to see something at the far end | 21:33 |
Wnt | I hope it will be possible to tweak this kind of things in the OS | 21:33 |
Nicd- | no, I thought about it wrong | 21:34 |
Wnt | on N9 it's frustrating that you need to swipe the active application all the way to see something like the clock in the corner | 21:35 |
Wnt | but if it would do both transition effects it would be both intuitive and more useful | 21:35 |
Nicd- | that's probably why they've gone with the transparency | 21:35 |
Wnt | as I see the only transparent effect quite unintuitive | 21:36 |
Wnt | but hopefully it will be possible to tweak this kind of things :) | 21:36 |
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artemma | Figured that QCameraExposure tells that exposure control is not available on emulator | 22:19 |
artemma | well, I guess I should be thankful that QCamera can be instantiated :) | 22:19 |
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