Wednesday, 2013-09-25

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blue787Saw the app list on twitter, very awesome05:25
blue787If that's any indication as to the apps coming with the Jolla experience im all in05:26
blue787Looking forward to more demos05:27
fk_lxblue787: some of the apps are the ones from Android05:28
fk_lxblue787: other are native Sailfish apps05:28
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blue787Yes I saw the "port from Android" demarcation on those apps05:37
blue787Will there be native IRC char apps ?05:37
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fk_lxblue787: well there is IRC chatter05:41
fk_lxblue787: also available on N905:42
blue787Ok05:42
blue787Great05:42
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Morpog_N9___irc chatter rocks!06:42
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Morpog_N9___which list on twitter?06:44
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HappyNarvalHi everybody. Just a little question : where can I find references to build sailfishOS for a device like, let's say, Pandaboard or equivalent ?08:52
Stskeepsyou don't typically atm but we're working to build documented knowledge for hackers to port the middleware and core to android devices08:52
Stskeepsas the factual binaries for the UI isn't out for ARM just yet08:52
dm8tbrhaving a look at nemomobile helps tho08:55
HappyNarvalOk. So if I understand, we can "imagine", in a near or far future, a repository system "ala Android" and a documentation kb (wiki) that helps to port SailfishOS to another device (aka not Jolla phone) ??08:56
HappyNarval- Or adapt/change (a little bit) SailfishOS ?? -08:57
Stskeepssomewhat yes, remember sailfish device = sailfish ui (not open atm) + nemo mobile middleware + mer core + a hardware adaptation08:58
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HappyNarvalSailfish ui is more or less like Quartz (on mac OS X) ? And a sailfish device is like an (Quartz + Darwin + a hardware adaptation) device (a Mac or Hackintsh) ?09:07
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HappyNarvalAnother think: I can not find, in interfaces design principles, if a application setting(s) must be accessed trough application pulley menu (within application) or trough Home general applications settings. Any UI guidelines available ??09:27
Stskeepsyes, have you checked sailfishos.org?09:27
HappyNarvalHumm. Yes, If we adopt the "Effortless interaction" rule, an in-app settings is more ergonomic. But may be in a global settings enviroment is more coherent?09:30
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sledgesHappyNarval, you already have hardware adaptation kb (wiki) + mer core + nemomobile middleware (the last two already are already at hand for multiple architectures)09:50
sledgesand new nemo ui is in works (the old one also reachable)09:51
sledgesso you can start glimpsing into https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide09:51
sledgesand https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step09:52
sledgesfor graphics layer is all going for Wayland/Qt5 nowadays09:52
sledgesthe still missing bits are libhybris and putting device's android land to submission09:53
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sledgespandaboard hardware adaptation exists as well: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Omap4/Pandaboard09:55
sledgesthe running demo is however Xorg/qt4 (the latter two are being deprecated in sailfish land)09:55
sledgesbut you could get a picture of what packages are needed: https://build.merproject.org/project/packages?project=nemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Ati%3Aomap4%3Apandaboard09:56
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HappyNarvaltks for reading references...10:21
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sledgesyw, they are not in pristine shape, but at least they are ;P10:27
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blue787Question, when I double tap to start my Jolla phone will all msg apps be able to post a short notifications oh the start up screen ?16:28
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Aardblue787: you mean the notification icons on the lock screen?16:37
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Stskeepshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y64ja7WBHU818:14
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sardininice Stskeeps18:25
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blue787Hi guys loved the new Sailfish demo by Marc today21:06
Nicd-it really does look great21:11
ottulooo whatsapp21:16
Nicd-that is nice, can talk to my wife for free :)21:16
ottulosame here21:16
Nicd-tried to get her to use trillian or something similar before but it wasn't simple enough21:17
ottulonow I just wish there'll be an app for viewing office files (preferably both MS office and Open/LibreOffice)21:17
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Yanielcalligra?21:18
YanielIIRC Jolla has been involved with them21:18
Nicd-there's an LO viewer for android in development21:19
Nicd-maybe that could be ported too21:19
ottulogreat21:19
ottuloseeing as I've only used symbian "smart"phones so far I am not really aware of all the apps for android/harmattan etc21:19
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blue787The ported apps maintain their Android looks?21:22
Nicd-the android apps aren't ported, they run unmodified afaik21:23
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Nicd-but porting would allow them to look like native sailfish apps and use sailfish features (probably be more performant too)21:23
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WntI wonder why the active application UI doesn't slide to the same direction as they are pushed like they do in N921:31
Wntinstead they appear more transparent the more you push21:31
Wntto reveal the whole width of the home / status UI the active application UI could do both effects at the same time, appear transparent and slide21:33
Nicd-but then you'd have to slide all the way to see something at the far end21:33
WntI hope it will be possible to tweak this kind of things in the OS21:33
Nicd-no, I thought about it wrong21:34
Wnton N9 it's frustrating that you need to swipe the active application all the way to see something like the clock in the corner21:35
Wntbut if it would do both transition effects it would be both intuitive and more useful21:35
Nicd-that's probably why they've gone with the transparency21:35
Wntas I see the only transparent effect quite unintuitive21:36
Wntbut hopefully it will be possible to tweak this kind of things :)21:36
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artemmaFigured that QCameraExposure tells that exposure control is not available on emulator22:19
artemmawell, I guess I should be thankful that QCamera can be instantiated :)22:19
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