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DarkSim | How is Sailfish doing? | 00:14 |
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Yaniel | swimmingly AFAIK | 00:15 |
DarkSim | So no real bubbles lately? | 00:16 |
Yaniel | been a low tide | 00:18 |
DarkSim | Don't be shellfish | 00:19 |
Yaniel | nah, I expect quite a wave once they release the first device | 00:19 |
DarkSim | I hope it will make a splash | 00:19 |
Yaniel | ..or if they released an image for say some nexus, but that isn't floating around... | 00:20 |
DarkSim | That won't be easy sailing... | 00:21 |
Yaniel | yeah, too many rocks under the surface | 00:27 |
DarkSim | I hope they don't end up sleeping with the fishes | 00:29 |
Yaniel | so do I, would be a pity to see the most promising system of the decade sink | 00:29 |
DarkSim | Would be sad to see Sailfish end up in Davy Jones' Locker | 00:30 |
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Yaniel | I don't think we will, since Jolla said that it floats without aegis. | 00:38 |
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DarkSim | I'm sorry if I can't continue to talk about this vast topic, but I have a voyage to attend to | 00:53 |
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m4g0g | hello | 16:08 |
m4g0g | I have error on ,y code: "FirstPage.qml:65: ReferenceError: enrtyTags is not defined" when roleNames [PocketEntriesModel::Tags] = "entryTags"; In what does this problem may be? | 16:09 |
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artemma | created my first ever public repo on github. Primitive Wikipedia app for Sailfish for now :) https://github.com/amarchen/Wikipedia | 17:48 |
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ottulo | this could be handy, thanks! | 18:02 |
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ottulo | I'm a real noob when it comes to Qt-programming (or programming in general), and I like to look at examples :) | 18:02 |
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artemma | then you may like to have a look at https://github.com/sailfishapps | 18:05 |
ottulo | yeah, I've skimmed through that but it was a while ago - might be more to study now | 18:06 |
artemma | I am not sure who exactly maintains it ( SfietKonstantin?), but they gather there some demos | 18:06 |
artemma | half of them I fail to build on the latest SDK, but the other half works :) | 18:06 |
ottulo | as soon as I actually have some spare time I can use to practise :/ | 18:06 |
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Almindor | hey | 18:13 |
Almindor | is it known how apps are going to be packaged? | 18:13 |
Almindor | how will extra libraries be handled (e.g. if your app needs some non-by-default installed qt5 thing for example) | 18:13 |
rcg | Almindor, if your "non-by-default qt5 thing" is open source, i'd try to get it into mer or nemo | 18:15 |
Almindor | I am :) | 18:16 |
artemma | Recalling harmattan times, you basically could package in whatever you wanted | 18:16 |
rcg | i.e. create a package for that lib and then ask e.g. Sage if it's possible and if yes how to add it | 18:16 |
Almindor | artemma: but as "RPM" or just the lib.so files ?? | 18:16 |
artemma | that is in the user space | 18:16 |
Almindor | also is there any sandboxing? | 18:16 |
artemma | I think as lib.so.. but the whole topic is beyond me actually | 18:17 |
rcg | or better, ask before you package it :) | 18:17 |
Almindor | well I packaged it (for i486 so far) :D | 18:17 |
rcg | Almindor, that's a good start :) | 18:17 |
rcg | do you have access to obs at build.merproject.org? | 18:18 |
Almindor | yep it's in home:Almindor:qwt | 18:18 |
rcg | great :) | 18:18 |
Almindor | I'm currently trying to figure out if all the deps can be met for the package itself | 18:19 |
Almindor | it's a graph/plotter qt5 library | 18:19 |
rcg | i'd ask Sage then if it is possible to add that to mer or nemo | 18:19 |
Almindor | I couldn't find any available for sailfish | 18:19 |
rcg | the cool thing, if it is added to mer or nemo is, that we all can benefit from your work then :) | 18:21 |
Almindor | well, best test if it even works first :D | 18:21 |
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rcg | hehe, sure :) | 18:22 |
ottulo | which database format would be the easiest to pick up to use in a sailfish app in your opinion? | 18:22 |
ottulo | I don't need anything very advanced, just something simple I can play around with | 18:23 |
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artemma | isn't there a LocalStorage already? | 18:23 |
ottulo | well, in one of the examples it mentioned it needs to be separately installed in the new SDK version | 18:24 |
artemma | actually I think from QML/JavaScript you can access two DBs: QtQuick's LocalStorage and HTML5 WebDatabase | 18:25 |
artemma | both might be the same engine underneath.. | 18:25 |
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artemma | hmm, if QtQuick.LocalStorage is not available, you might still be able to use HTML5 one | 18:26 |
ottulo | well, I guess I'll read up on those | 18:26 |
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Almindor | rcg: so when is Sage usually around? (also who is he? :D) | 18:29 |
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Almindor | seems the package is installable in both mer SDK and nemo/emulator | 18:31 |
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rcg | Almindor, i think he's more around during the week than on weekends. | 18:32 |
rcg | Almindor, so far, whenever i wanted to add/push something to mer/nemo he was always very helpful | 18:33 |
rcg | https://sailfishos.org/community.html <- Almindor see Marko there | 18:33 |
Almindor | thanks, I'll pop in during the week | 18:33 |
rcg | yw :) | 18:34 |
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artemma | Qt.openUrlExternally doesn't seem to work | 18:48 |
artemma | well, unsurprisingly probably as emulator doesn't have a browser app | 18:48 |
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Morpog_Mobile | Install cutefox-qt5 | 18:53 |
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artemma | Actually open web view inside app could even be better in my case | 19:02 |
artemma | just showing links inside the About dialog | 19:03 |
artemma | or maybe not :) | 19:03 |
artemma | Looking at how pages render inside WebView I wonder how it identifies itself. google.com for example, serves desktop version to it | 19:04 |
artemma | not that it was so interesting that I'd actually checked, just wondering | 19:04 |
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artemma | Do you know if there is a set of some system string constants somewhere (planned for theme maybe?) | 19:17 |
artemma | For example right now I am doing a search box for the Wikipedia app, sure I replace Enter button with Search or Go! and it works great except if user switches to non-US keyboard | 19:18 |
artemma | it would be cool to have a localized source of some standard OS constants like this one of for various OK-Cancel-Accept dialogs | 19:19 |
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artemma | Can you have a system provided cover? If I have nothing special to show, I'd be fine with system just showing a screenshot. | 19:48 |
artemma | At the moment emulator shows cover with text "Default cover" if cover is not set. I wonder if it will become a screenshot on a real device | 19:49 |
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M4rtinK | well at least I have expected a live feed from the application window would be the default | 20:02 |
M4rtinK | or at least configurable | 20:03 |
M4rtinK | quite often a cover would not be needed and just a live view would be better | 20:03 |
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m4g0g | hi | 21:19 |
m4g0g | how I can transfer data between 2 pages? | 21:19 |
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artemma | M4rtinK: live feed can be computationally expensive even for 1 app, imaging you are running many tasks | 22:14 |
artemma | Screenshot is a compromise | 22:15 |
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M4rtinK | well, Harmattan managed quite fine | 22:15 |
M4rtinK | and you are usually not looking at the task switcher for extended periods of time anyway | 22:16 |
artemma | did it? I don't remember :) | 22:16 |
M4rtinK | well even Fremantle does that :) | 22:16 |
M4rtinK | on the N900 no less | 22:17 |
M4rtinK | and Nemo | 22:17 |
artemma | Funny how I don't remember that. Anyway, my point was it would be cool to have some default useful active cover when you don't have anything special to show there | 22:18 |
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