Tuesday, 2013-10-15

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blue787Hiya00:59
blue787Does anyone know is Jolla's phone has a native Jolla to Jolla messenger ? Or at least has one in development01:00
blue787An Other Half with a pro grade GPS chip for high level navigation would be nice as well01:02
wmarone__nothing's been said01:03
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blue787Another cool idea for Jolla would be pressure sensitive menus, example, I'm at the lock screen and I would be able to press the screen, as my pressure increases the menu cycles through the different choices until I stop on the one want comes up.. That would be awesome01:04
wmarone__it would be nice01:07
wmarone__unfortunately I don't think capacitive screens have the ability to detect pressure01:07
blue787Oh ok01:07
blue787It would great, to have the menu cycle when you hold down a spot on the screen01:08
blue787Will there be access for the visually impaired without an "app" for that01:09
blue787Is the final screen 4.5 or 4.7 ? With the reduced bezel and all01:10
blue787I'm really excited for Jolla, lets hope the reviews are as impartial as they can be. Somehow I have the feeling Jolla will become an eventual threat to other OS's01:11
blue787How soon after will we be hoping to see a tablet render for Sailfish ?01:20
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ottuloblue787: the haptics should help the visually impaired07:55
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ottuloat least the pulley menus etc seem to be easy to use, not sure about all other menus and apps07:56
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xerxes2when you close an app in the sailfish ux it doesn't wait for the mainloop to return10:44
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xerxes2i got some stuff in aboutToQuit callback and it's called but the process is killed before it returns10:46
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xerxes2on my xfce desktop it waits for the mainloop to return when closing an app on the window button10:49
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ericccwin7?10:57
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ericccoh  my  god   my  emulator  can  run   ,but  my   mer sdk  is  broke  it  show :11:35
ericccError while building/deploying project componentgallery (kit: MerSDK-SailfishOS-i486-x86)11:35
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ericcctwo  minute  age  ,it  is right,but  now  is don`t!11:37
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zuttoyour space key seems to be broken too11:41
ericcchow  to  i  chenck?11:41
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jake9xxcamillab: hello, I'm kaltsi's colleague on the SDK, we are trying to analyze & fix your crash12:48
camillabok :)12:48
jake9xxit's a tricky case I gotta admit... I saw the callstack but could you run it with gdb ?12:50
camillabthat is from gdb12:50
camillabso yes - if you want to make me do something special with gdb just say so12:51
kaltsijake9xx: new info, the crash also happens if 'building and running applications' link is clicked from qtc main page.. no need to run the new application wizard12:51
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jake9xxcamillab: ok, good and you have SailfishOS installed to ~ ?12:52
camillab~/devel/12:52
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jake9xxcamillab: and your user id has all needed rights under that?12:54
camillabyes it's just another sub dir12:54
jake9xxok, just making sure :)12:54
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jake9xxyou don't have any encryption sw there?12:55
camillabwell my entire disk is handle by some virtual fs12:55
jake9xxLUKS I assume ?12:55
camillaband then ext4 on top of that12:55
camillabno one sec i'll look itup12:55
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camillablvm12:57
camillabvolume manager12:57
jake9xxyeah, I have that as well and luks on top of that. So we can rule that out I guess12:57
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camillabi don't think it's disk related unless it's the installation location12:58
camillabie ~/devel instead of just ~12:58
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kaltsiI just tried installing to ~/devel/sailfish and "works for me"12:58
camillabok12:59
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lbtericcc: hi ... what was your problem ?13:02
ericcc@lbt  my  sailfish  sdk  it  show me13:03
ericccError while building/deploying project componentgallery (kit: MerSDK-SailfishOS-i486-x86)13:03
ericcc当执行步骤 'qmake'时13:03
ericcc20:58:02: Elapsed time: 00:01.13:03
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lbtericcc: there's a few other people who can help in the channel13:03
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ericccit see not   stable13:04
ericcci  run  a  sailfishos  app  ,it  show me  this  error13:05
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lbtericcc: Ok .. is the build engine VM running ?13:06
ericccsomebody talk me   //myr space key seems to be broken too13:06
ericccyes   the  engine  vm is  running13:06
lbtgo to tools->options->Mer and "Test Connection"13:07
lbtdoes it say "Status: Connected" ?13:08
ericccno connect13:09
ericccand  then?13:09
lbtsorry - what Status: does it say?13:10
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ericccoh it is chinese13:11
ericcc未连接13:11
ericccit  show   未连接13:11
lbtah :D13:12
lbtthat looks wrong13:13
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zhxtthat means:  "unconnected"13:13
lbtzhxt: ty - I started mine in chinese but can't copy the UI symbols :)13:14
lbtso this is definitely a problem13:14
lbtwhat OS are you using ericcc?13:14
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ericccwin7   64b13:15
lbtOK - we test that so it should be fine13:15
zhxtlbt: :)13:15
ericccthe  emulator    is ok !like  https://sailfishos.org/images/toolbar_icons_stop.png13:16
lbtthat's confusing13:17
lbtthose icons show a red "stop" icon when the BE is running13:17
lbtso if they are red that's good13:18
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ericcci   kown the  mer sdk and  sailfishos sdk  is  good,so  i think it is  a bug13:19
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lbtericcc: if your SDK isn't connecting to the build engine then qmake won't work13:22
ericccso  how  can  i do?reboot  win7?13:23
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lbt:) ... that always seems to be a good approach with windows13:24
lbthow much RAM do you have?13:25
ericcc4g13:25
lbtthat should be OK13:25
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ericcc:-1: error:Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. The remote host closed the connection13:27
lbtericcc: you should be able to open your project, start the build engine, confirm the connection, and build your project13:27
ericccand  then how  can i  help u13:27
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lbtericcc: that sounds like the BE isn't running13:27
ericccit have  error  log?13:28
ericcci  can  send to you13:28
jake9xxericcc: lbt or me (jarko.vihriala@jollamobile.com)13:28
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ericccgood13:31
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Yanieljollamobile or jolla :o13:31
* lbt wonders how to start QtCreator from the command line in windows13:32
ericcchi  everyone  i  must  go home   see  you  latar13:32
lbtthat's the only place I can think of to get a log of what it does13:32
lbtericcc: you may want to report on the mailing list too13:32
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ericcci  am  come back..witring mail  to you14:26
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artemmaHas anyone tried working much with the WebView?19:37
artemmaI am trying to open a tweet sending URL and let user tweet "manually" from https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=This+is+Google&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com19:37
artemmaTypically it opens the page, but crashes on 1st or 2nd further page change19:38
artemmaor sometimes it dies right away with The wayland connection broke (error 32). Did the wayland compositor die?19:39
artemmaLEAK: 2 WebPageProxy19:39
artemmaLEAK: 1 WebContext19:39
artemmaRemote application finished with exit code 1.19:39
artemmaoh well.. maybe WebView isn't really ready yet..19:39
artemmaWhat would be a sailfish os way to show an short time, not important in-app notification to the user?19:49
artemmaSuch as "Tweet posted" (and that is why we closed the Tweet view now)19:49
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artemmaInterestingly, when I set a custom DialogHeader title during Dialog creation I can still see the default "Accept" for quite some time. Sorta sucks20:02
artemmaThere is no public tracker for reporting Silica bugs is there?20:02
Nicd-people have been talking about a dev mailing list but I don't know where that is20:02
Nicd-or if it's public20:02
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artemmaoh, that one I know, I'd like to do some more proper and detailed reporting about issues20:03
artemmaoh well, maybe at this stage following a public bug tracker is too much for Jolla ppl20:04
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artemmaQtCreator is changing yaml file all the time. Is it autogenerated? Is it safe to .gitignore it?20:56
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JonniNicd-: https://lists.sailfishos.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel21:02
Jonniartemma: ^21:02
artemma?21:03
Jonnijust pointing to mailing list as currently there is no public bugzilla21:03
artemmaah, thanks21:03
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artemmaI somehow think that small bug reports (that might be my misunderstanding, but not a real bug) aren't really appropriate for the mailing list..21:04
Jonnisdk has quite old version of webview, next release will have a bit newer.21:04
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artemmagood!21:05
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