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| artemma | nothing provides libQt5QuickTest.so.5 | 00:52 |
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| artemma | I am migrating from .spec to .yaml and fail to Require QtQuickTest libs for emulator somehow :/ | 00:53 |
| artemma | Anybody knows what's the correct package to Require in .yaml? | 00:53 |
| artemma | I am trying the following two: | 00:53 |
| artemma | Requires: | 00:53 |
| artemma | - qt5-qtdeclarative-qtquicktest | 00:53 |
| artemma | - qt5-qtdeclarative-import-qttest | 00:53 |
| artemma | actually old projects don't run anymore as well, hmm.. | 00:56 |
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| artemma | never mind, emulator update helped | 01:01 |
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| coderus | hello! anybody in sailfish devel mailing lists see my answers? | 06:06 |
| coderus | i cant see my answers in https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-November/author.html | 06:06 |
| Stskeeps | sent from what mail? | 06:07 |
| Stskeeps | at least i don't see you in moderation queue i think | 06:07 |
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| coderus | Stskeeps: em. it was a many mails i answered :( | 06:09 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: is there any trick i should use to answer mails correctly? | 06:09 |
| dm8tbr | use the address that you subscribed with | 06:09 |
| dm8tbr | you can try to change the settings in mailman so it sends you an ACK and a copy of your own posting | 06:10 |
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| dm8tbr | https://lists.sailfishos.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: i meant original e-mail address sent from ;) | 06:11 |
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| coderus | Stskeeps: dm8tbr oh sorry. seems my mails was replied to sender, not lists =| stupid me =| | 06:16 |
| dm8tbr | ah, then the list doesn't replace the reply-to. which is the preferred option in mailman, but to be honest I prefer to set it to on, because there are just so many people who get this wrong | 06:17 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: something to consider maybe? | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: already on it.. | 06:19 |
| dm8tbr | tnx! | 06:19 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: dm8tbr just used button "Reply list" instead of "Reply". Its first time i'm using mailing lists :D | 06:20 |
| dm8tbr | coderus: yes, it's very easy to make that mistake | 06:21 |
| coderus | dm8tbr: just in a hurry all time, thats my fault :D | 06:21 |
| coderus | well, according to my own question to mailing list | 06:23 |
| coderus | any ideas how to pop my window to foreground? | 06:23 |
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| coderus | where to fill sailfish bug? | 08:08 |
| dm8tbr | coderus: in which component | 08:09 |
| cybette | Hartzi: can you provide me info/link to the tampere event? | 08:10 |
| Hartzi | cybette: http://www.yrityspaivat.fi/ | 08:12 |
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| dm8tbr | ah, that's the more generic job-fair | 08:14 |
| cybette | Hartzi: cool, thanks | 08:16 |
| veskuh_ | coderus, there is no public bugzilla. Best at the moment is to report in developer mailing list. | 08:16 |
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| Hartzi | cybette: np. Be there! | 08:17 |
| cybette | Hartzi: buy more phones! so we'll need to hire more people! :D | 08:17 |
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| Nicd- | so if I buy another phone, can I get a job? =) | 08:18 |
| Hartzi | cybette: I already bought one in "day one" :D | 08:19 |
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| cybette | Nicd-: might increase your chances but no guarantees ;) | 08:21 |
| cybette | Hartzi: o/ | 08:21 |
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| Hartzi | my dad bought also (instead of iPhone 5) | 08:22 |
| cybette | nice! | 08:22 |
| cybette | i bought in both first and second waves - gonna send them to my parents in taiwan | 08:23 |
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| Nicd- | my mom almost ordered one but then decided to wait | 08:26 |
| Nicd- | then again she has never had a touchscreen phone so I don't know if it's the best for her | 08:26 |
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| cybette | Nicd-: yeah there might be bigger learning curve for her, maybe let her try yours first | 08:32 |
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| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: coderus: sorted | 09:04 |
| dm8tbr | \o/ | 09:05 |
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| ottulo | oo, news! | 11:11 |
| leinir | indeed! :) | 11:16 |
| leinir | Important ones, too! :) | 11:17 |
| Yaniel | where? | 11:17 |
| fk_lx | Yaniel: on mail -> harbour.jolla.com | 11:19 |
| Yaniel | never heard of that :o | 11:19 |
| leinir | which, of course, is now being hammered and has already fallen over ;) | 11:19 |
| leinir | Yaniel: that'll be because it is news ;) | 11:19 |
| Yaniel | hehe | 11:20 |
| Yaniel | so what ml was that on? | 11:20 |
| Yaniel | sailfish-dev? | 11:20 |
| leinir | yup :) | 11:20 |
| leinir | about 10 minutes or so ago :) | 11:20 |
| Yaniel | cewl | 11:20 |
| Yaniel | but wow, are they running those websites on a cereal box or are there really that many people following this | 11:22 |
| jukkaeklund | it has become a tradition :p | 11:22 |
| Yaniel | :D | 11:22 |
| Yaniel | I wonder, could this have been part of what made the 'legendary' week.. | 11:22 |
| jukkaeklund | that and many other things | 11:23 |
| lbt | Yaniel: our IT are adding more boxes as we speak ... larger surge than expected! | 11:27 |
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| TemeV | there reads just "false" every where. Will it help if I keep hammering the F5? :) | 11:30 |
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| faenil | TemeV, not sure :p | 11:47 |
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| coderus | dm8tbr: veskuh_: application window cannot be activated itself. only clicking cover works. none of window activaion methods working.by activation i means brings window to front ;) | 12:41 |
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| veskuh_ | coderus, wierd. From QML ApplicationWindow's activate method has worked is working on real device. | 12:42 |
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| coderus | veskuh_: well. we have no real devices to test :) | 12:46 |
| coderus | veskuh_: but we need emulator to be fixed :) | 12:47 |
| veskuh_ | coderus, yeah, should work on emulator too. | 12:47 |
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| Jonni | veskuh_: it changed a bit with wayland :) | 12:52 |
| Jonni | there is a hack, but I'm not sure if that is public info yet :) | 12:53 |
| Jonni | my ip address application is using the hack to minimize itself | 12:53 |
| Jonni | but migh be that activate method is just having issues in emulator. | 12:55 |
| coderus | Jonni: any problems about publicing everything? :) | 12:56 |
| Jonni | it was just a hack, in theory normal qt api's should work and if not then we should fix them :) | 12:57 |
| Jonni | as hacks tend to break if internal implementation changes :) | 12:58 |
| coderus | Jonni: but suitable for testing while developing on broken emulator ;) | 12:58 |
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| Jonni | coderus: as a hint lipstick window surface has lower() and raise() functions. But please use public API's after using the hacks :) | 13:02 |
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| coderus | Jonni: you talking about lipstick qml plugin? or should be implemented in Qt? | 13:04 |
| Jonni | coderus: works from qml yes | 13:04 |
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| coderus | Jonni: which object should be used? | 13:07 |
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| coderus | Jonni: because i tried to use WaylandSurface from that plugin in emulator and it failed to create an instance | 13:12 |
| coderus | is there QMessage QMessageHandler replacement in qt5/sailfish? | 13:21 |
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| Wnt | Is harbour.jolla.com working for someone? I keep getting 504 Gateway Timeout | 15:11 |
| Yaniel | 502 Bad Gateway | 15:12 |
| Wnt | http://harbour.jolla.com first redirects to https://harbour.jolla.com and that gives the timeout | 15:12 |
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| Stskeeps | there's some IT issues, give it time | 15:12 |
| Wnt | now it changet to "ERROR 502: Bad Gateway" here too | 15:13 |
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| coderus | Jonni: can you give me more info for lipstick? | 15:21 |
| coderus | Jonni: import org.nemomobile.lipstick 0.1 as LipstickInstance | 15:21 |
| coderus | Jonni: is it correct? | 15:21 |
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| coderus | Jonni: afterwards i checked LipstickInstance.Lipstick.active and it false =( | 15:21 |
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| lbt | "Jolla Promises that Hardware Keyboard Could be Enabled" http://www.mobilelinuxnews.com/2013/10/jolla-promises-hardware-keyboard-enabled-half-add/ err, yeah | 16:04 |
| Eztran | ...what? Why would they have had to promise it, they confirmed TOH specs... | 16:05 |
| leinir | because lol news website | 16:06 |
| flux | the dialogue continues like: "hmm, so where's the hw kbd other half you promised?" "no, we only said it could be built" "NOOOO BUT YOU PROMIIIIISED!" | 16:06 |
| lbt | at least they have a screengrab of the tweet :D | 16:06 |
| lbt | "is it here yet?" | 16:06 |
| lbt | "is it here yet?" | 16:07 |
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| leinir | oh yeah, wonder what the update is on the thing someone was poking about with on tmo... | 16:07 |
| dm8tbr | reminds me to order an iphone bt-kbd from dx.com for some haxx0ring | 16:07 |
| lbt | and mailing lists | 16:07 |
| lbt | but I must go and nap | 16:07 |
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| artemma | Did Harbour get millions of debs? | 20:59 |
| artemma | it could not go down under a few dozens, could it? | 20:59 |
| artemma | On a related topic: how are you supposed to make a screenshot for harbor if emulator isn't showing full screen? | 20:59 |
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| Stskeeps | artemma: hmm? | 21:07 |
| artemma | or am I the only one who always sees emulator scrolled? :) | 21:07 |
| artemma | could be mac-specific | 21:08 |
| artemma | maybe macs are not very popular among sailors | 21:08 |
| Stskeeps | well virtualbox has a screenshot functionality too | 21:08 |
| artemma | oh, didn't know that | 21:09 |
| * artemma went to browse emulator menus | 21:09 | |
| artemma | indeed, thanks! | 21:10 |
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| Morpog_Mobile | artemma: also you can scale emulator so it fits your screen | 21:53 |
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| artemma | Morpog_Mobile: true, screenshot button should solve it anyway though | 21:53 |
| artemma | thanks | 21:53 |
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| khertan | artemma, you can use the menu of virtualbox in file menu virtual box can take full screen screenshot even if emulator isn't showing full screen | 22:23 |
| khertan | artemma, no no .. .i see it scrolled | 22:23 |
| artemma | khertan: yes people advised, I should have checked | 22:23 |
| artemma | thanks | 22:23 |
| khertan | but you can use resized screen | 22:23 |
| khertan | artemma: hum look like i lag as much as harbour | 22:24 |
| khertan | artemma, your welcome | 22:24 |
| khertan | :) | 22:24 |
| artemma | I am somehow worried about the harbor situation | 22:24 |
| artemma | I hope it some sort of a bug, not a too-much-load situation | 22:25 |
| artemma | app store can't go down under a few hundreds of developers max logging in even on day one | 22:25 |
| khertan | artemma, even if it s a too much load situation, that can be fixed | 22:25 |
| khertan | by optimizing, scaling architecture | 22:26 |
| artemma | yeah, it's just sort of a scary indication then | 22:26 |
| khertan | artemma, or a sign of many devel ... and a store that will be full of apps ! | 22:26 |
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| artemma | I hope app store architecture and stuff gets decent amount of good attention and not everybody skilled is working on the device | 22:27 |
| khertan | architecture of server and software can be fixed with an update | 22:28 |
| khertan | more difficult when it s hardware of a device | 22:28 |
| khertan | and so, one guy can do an amazing job to create an store | 22:29 |
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| M4rtinK | will be interesting to compare it with other stores/repos once it is fully working | 23:07 |
| M4rtinK | like the low level stuff - dependencies & co | 23:08 |
| M4rtinK | well, workst case we have Openrepos as a backup :) | 23:08 |
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| * artemma would appreciate some quick way to reset emulator to the original state. Sorta sucks to reinstall everything just to check if app package declares all the actually needed dependencies | 23:40 | |
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