Tuesday, 2013-11-12

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Custodianharbour is opened once again, dock now! https://harbour.jolla.com08:46
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dm8tbrhmm seems to not have exploded so far. time to post updates to g+08:51
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locusfalready submitting an app there :)08:56
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coderuscan anyone explain about using sb2 with SailfishSDK09:32
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faenilcoderus, I've never tried sb2 directly on sdk, sorry09:38
faenilalways used it for nemo with selfbuilt targets09:38
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locusfFYI for all harbour submitters, mb2 is broken and doesn't produce armv7hl rpms very well, at least it names them as i48609:43
locusfso to fix this, use regular mb09:43
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lbtmb ... *sigh*09:58
locusfyeah, I know :/09:59
saildevmmh, I'm not so familiar with this thing since I haven't developed applications to any other platform yet.. so basically what does it mean? :)10:00
coderusfaenil: okay. how to setup it for nemo? can i just use same procedure with different rootfs?10:00
faenilcoderus, follow the guide I posted on mailinglist10:01
coderusfaenil: this wiki is not clear for me10:03
faenilcoderus, tell me what's not clear and I'll explain ;)10:03
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saildevso can someone explain me this mb2/mb thing?10:06
coderussaildev: well, i think now i'm trying to figure out same thing :)10:07
coderusfaenil: so, did yiu tried SailfishSDK? it creates armel and i486 sb2 targets but using them falling with error10:08
faenilcoderus, yes but sailfish sdk has a different setup with targets inside vms iirc10:09
faenilso I don't know about special rules that apply there10:09
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faenilcoderus, but you didn't tell me what's not clear in the guide ;) I can help with that, if you need10:28
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saildevnot sure is it just me or a bug with the latest sdk bug but my sounds has stopped working on emulator after I did the last sdk update..10:48
saildevall the other sounds work like they suppose to.. I've checked that I haven't unticked the enable sounds part from the vb settings10:49
saildevI have tested all the audio drivers and controllers I found onv b settings10:49
saildev... still nothing10:49
saildevany ideas?10:49
locusfhmm now I just need an icon, rpm tested on device and it works10:49
saildevonly thing I need is to somehow enable sounds so I know they work 100%.. :(10:51
Morpog_N9locusf, maybe I can have a go on it latet, what do you have in mind?10:52
locusfMorpog_N9: a blue whale basically :)10:53
locusfthough it could borrow the simplicity from Evernote icon10:53
locusfhmm that probably doesn't work10:54
MMorino the link doesn't work10:55
locusfyeah figured as much10:55
locusfwell you can see it in www.evernote.com10:56
saildeveverybody ignores me here?10:56
MMorisaildev, we just don't have an answer10:56
MMoriI haven't been testing the sounds10:56
MMorilocusf, that's a nice icon10:56
saildevwell, if people here talks to each others and someone asks does someone know the answer, maybe those people could say "no, we don't know" instead just keep talking..10:57
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MMoriI'm sorry saildev, I don't know the answer.10:58
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saildevyes, you said it already...10:58
MMoriI have a short memory10:58
saildevthank you anyways..10:58
MMoribut I agree with you, this channel is a great way to communicate with other developers and we should keep the community warm10:59
locusfMorpog_N9: thanks for this11:01
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MMoriCountdown by Sfiet_Konst?11:04
Sfiet_KonstMMori: :D11:04
Sfiet_Konsttesting nick coloring for ircfish11:04
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saildevso what about the icon templates? I do have the settings, default and components icons but none of them are empty.. so how I'm suppose to create the icons?11:15
MMoriI was wondering the same thing last week11:15
saildevlittle things but at least for me who prefers the "real" sailfish icons with shame template than native applications is important..11:15
saildevyeah well I've been wondering that for 2 months now and no one from Jolla answers me.11:16
saildevand about a half year a go they said the complete icon template package will come before the release.. well, we're able to send the applications to Harbour but can not create icons..11:16
saildevweird :/11:16
MMoridoes that help you at all?11:17
MMorigoogle is a friend11:17
saildevyes, if the size is correct.. I think it was changed since last time?11:17
locusfits 86x86 nowadays11:17
locusfin Jolla harbour at the moment11:18
MMorihttp://sfietkonstantin.wordpress.com/2013/06/25/comments-on-jolla-ui/ yeah, the artice is from June..11:18
saildevyeah, just checked it as well..11:18
saildevbut the sounds are still mystery11:18
saildevI could send the yahtzee game to there but the sounds of the dice rolling were so awesome :(11:18
saildevand now I can not test it because the sounds won't work11:19
saildevI even reinstalled my whole OS to make sure I start everything from the scratch and I haven't screwed any settings11:19
saildevdidn't help :(11:19
locusfsend me the armv7hl rpm and I'll test it on my N911:19
saildevokay, hold on a sec..11:20
MMoriI'm hoping we'll get our hands on the actual devices soon enough11:20
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saildevyeah.. at least DNA finland post a tweet which said something like "jolla fans do not have to wait for the christmas to get all the presents" and they posted an image with a package that said "i am the other half" on top of it .)11:21
locusfdo you guys already know how to make screenshots with the lipstick screenshot tool?11:21
MMorisaildev: saw that too, I'm excited11:22
saildevno i haven't explored it yet.. although I need it later but it's not critical for me at the moment..11:22
locusfok good11:22
MMorilocusf, I don't know11:22
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locusfMMori: its quite simple actually, you just install lipstick-qt5-tools to the emulator with zypper11:23
locusfvia SSH11:23
MMorithat's cool11:24
faenillocusf, just run it11:26
locusffaenil: yeah I already did via ssh11:26
faeniland it will tell you the usage11:26
faenilok ;)11:26
locusfI was just wondering if anyone needs help with it as screenshots are required to the jolla harbour11:26
saildevthat icon image you linked me doesn't help.. at least i'm not able to seperate a good looking icon from the rest of the image.. :/11:27
faenilah ok :) misunderstood ;)11:27
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saildevi was kinda hoping there would be same kind of template package than there are for meego applications11:27
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MMorilocusf, is there any tutorials available on installing it?11:32
locusfMMori: hmm probably not11:33
MMoriit's good you pointed out that the screenshots are required11:33
saildevlocusf: here you go.. https://www.dropbox.com/s/o42v271g7xl4p8e/Yahtzee-0.1-1.armv7hl.rpm11:34
saildevlike i said the icon is actually the only thing that has to be changed11:34
saildevunless it contains any bugs but as far as i can tell it shouldn't :D11:35
locusfsaildev: cool :)11:35
saildevso let me know then, okay? :)11:35
locusfif I can get it working that is :)11:35
saildevyeah.. :D11:36
saildevhow do you run it on n9?11:36
locusfI just installed the Silica Qt5 binaries from armv7hl target11:37
locusfnothing more11:37
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saildevhmm, do you have any kind of quick-guide how?11:37
saildevbecause I have n9 as well.. :)11:38
saildevif it's working, though :D11:38
saildevah, forget it.. first I thought you're able to run it normally on n9 but then I realized that it's like a sailfish sdk emulator on n9 so you can't do any other n9 stuff with it..11:39
saildevthat's a problem because i use it as a main device so... .)11:39
locusfyes indeed11:41
locusfsaildev: in case you change your mind http://locusf.blogspot.fi/2013/11/installing-sdk-version-of-sailfish-on-n9.html11:42
locusfsaildev: I can see the icon on the yahtzee11:43
saildevyeah but it's the default one :)11:44
locusfah ok11:44
saildevisn't it? at least I haven't changed it..11:44
locusfit is11:45
locusfI guess since I don't know about the default icons at all11:45
locusfbtw http://pastie.org/847437111:45
locusfso you sent me x86 binaries11:46
locusfI suggest cleaning and then rebuilding in the mersdk as  mb build -t SailfishOS-armv7hl rpm/Yahtzee.spec11:47
locusfah no building in mersdk but in Qt Creator as armv7hl11:47
locusfthen that mb build to create a proper rpm11:48
saildevmb: command not found11:49
* dm8tbr can also help by testing on device, but only in the evenings. quite busy days in the office at the moment.11:49
coderussaildev: login to target11:49
locusfsaildev: ssh -i SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/engine/mersdk mersdk@localhost -p 222211:49
saildevso let's try again :D11:50
locusfyeah binary now ok11:54
locusfsaildev: Nov 12 13:54:13 localhost lipstick[396]: /usr/bin/Yahtzee: error while loading shared libraries: libsailfishapp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:54
dm8tbrI was able to zypper install that one11:55
dm8tbrbut then again I have a real™ device11:55
locusflol dm8tbr11:55
saildevtbr do you know about the sound issue with sdk emulator? is it just me or with the latest sdk update a common problem11:55
* dm8tbr checks11:56
saildevyeah.. i can't hear any sounds on emulator.. i've also tried to reinstall vb, sailfish sdk and my OS..11:56
saildevnothing helped so far11:56
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saildevand naturally every other sound on my computer works just fine.. and i have checked the audio settings on vb11:57
saildevalso i did check the audio settings from the control panel and it doesn't block any application11:57
dm8tbrthe machine has audio enabled...11:57
locusfcontrol panel as in windows?11:58
saildevcontrol panel in linux11:58
locusfah good :)11:58
saildevyes, it has audio enabled11:58
locusfI can't hear any audio as well11:58
saildevand i've tried all possible audio drivers and controllers on vb settings11:58
saildevhmm.. then it could be something to do with the latest sdk update?11:59
saildevi've also tried with xubuntu 12.04 and ubuntu 13.1011:59
locusfbut I can't of course discern wether I have heard sounds before11:59
saildevno difference11:59
saildevoh.. well, i have heard e.g. pulley menu sounds before11:59
saildevbut i didn't pay any attention to it until now when i wanted those dice rolling sounds ..12:00
dm8tbrI suspect it's something missing in the emulator VM12:06
dm8tbrI'm trying a few things12:06
saildevokay.. thanks :)12:07
saildevand if you could try the sounds are they working properly? :)12:08
locusfsaildev: do you know about the libsailfishapp.so problem? it didn't come with the rpm?12:10
dm8tbrok, after installing some gst-plugins* packages I can at least produce sound with gst-launch in the VM12:11
saildevi don't know about the libsailfishapp.so problem..12:12
dm8tbryou should be able to reproduce this by:12:12
dm8tbr1) as root in the vm: zypper in gst-plugins-good12:12
saildevi think .so files have nothing to do with rpm packages?12:12
Morpog_N9locusf https://db.tt/rbf1oVR612:12
dm8tbr2)  gst-launch-0.10 audiotestsrc wave=2 freq=200 ! pulsesink12:12
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locusfMorpog_N9: holy crap, nice job :) thanks a ton :912:13
dm8tbrtried zypper in libsailfishapp?12:13
Morpog_N9np :D12:13
dm8tbrpackage should probably declare dependency on that12:13
saildevtbr any other steps?12:14
dm8tbrsaildev: that just helps to verify that audio is working from inside the VM. I'm not sure what is missing to enable audio from the homescreen and apps12:16
saildevwell, maybe it'll get fixed on next sdk update :)12:17
dm8tbrit is easily fixable, you just need to know which package is missing12:18
saildevargh.. any idea? :)12:18
dm8tbrI haven't worked much with this stuff so I'm guessing. someone who did might just know12:18
saildevi'll try to search for it :)12:18
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saildevwhat about mp3 codecs? still nothing new related to it?12:20
dm8tbrwhat about that?12:21
saildevlast time i asked from veskuh he said there aren't any mp3 codecs available12:21
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veskuhsaildev, yeah I meant that SDK don't have time. Device has.12:22
saildevwell,i do know that one.. :) but still not available for sdk?12:22
dm8tbrgmf, mouse stopped working in the emulator, now I can't verify if I fixed sound12:22
dm8tbrsaildev: tried zypper in gst-plugins-bad ?12:22
saildevhaven't found it anywhere so i guess i'll have to wait 'till i get the device so i can work with it :)12:22
veskuhjake9xx, is there a plan to have codecs in SDK?12:23
saildevdm8tbr: for mp3 or sounds in general?12:23
dm8tbrit's all based around gstreamer12:24
dm8tbrso installing available gstreamer plugins can help12:24
saildevokay.. i didn't have that one installed12:25
saildevbut because i also don't have sounds at all so it's hard to test it now :D12:25
dm8tbrthere's also gst-plugins-bad-free and gst-plugins-good12:25
locusfrebooting the emulator might help12:25
saildevgst-plugins-good is already installed12:25
dm8tbrtry installing qt5-multimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio12:26
dm8tbrI suspect that one is missing for sound in lipstick etc12:26
dm8tbrbut my mouse stopped working so I can't verify12:26
saildevit is installed already12:26
dm8tbrwasn't here12:27
saildevi tried it and it was installed :)12:27
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saildevso frustrating when i can't get the sounds working.. :(12:31
saildevnot sure what's the problem12:31
saildevnice looking bluewhale icon, locusf Morpog_N912:32
locusfits so cute and cuddly :)12:33
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saildevi'll try to reboot if i get my sounds working..12:36
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saildevso, let's see12:39
saildevdamn.. no sounds :(12:40
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lbtsaildev: hi - there are some known issues with sound12:49
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saildevlbt: oh, so i'm not the only one?12:49
lbtI've not been working on this recently so I'm not up-to-date I'm afraid12:49
saildevoh, okay..12:49
lbtsaildev: no, it's not just you :)12:49
saildevgood.. i've ripping my hair off here trying to get it work :D12:50
lbtwhat host OS ?12:50
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lbtit *should* work :)12:50
lbtit's probably something in ubuntu sound settings for virtualbox12:51
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lbtsince the identical VM works in MacOS (I think)12:51
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lbtit could be the sound device used in vbox or it could be the mixer in ubuntu12:51
saildevi have used this actually all the time but after last sdk update something went wrong..12:52
lbtif you have another linux VM image that works in vbox you could try that12:52
saildevbut i've tried to check from audio settings12:52
lbteg run fedora inside a vbox and see if you hear fedora sounds12:52
saildevi don't have any linux vm images.. :(12:53
lbtgoogle is your friend :)12:53
saildevand to be honest i don't know how they work12:53
lbtah, OK12:53
lbtyeah, it gets a bit gnarly12:53
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lbtI'm sure it will get fixed soon - our QA girl says it's broken for her on ubuntu too12:54
saildevwell, i concentrate on other applications which doesn't require any sound usage :) and i'll wait for the fix12:55
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saildevhmm.. what is a new value for this qml element: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-separator.html13:11
saildevi mean instead of this alignment.. doesn't seem to work13:11
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Morpog_N9saildev, made some jolla icon shapes for you and anybody elsein SVG: https://db.tt/U7JtQ6MN13:54
fk_lxsaildev: alignment didn't work also in previous version of SDK, it's broken13:55
fk_lxsaildev: I've posted about it some time ago on sailfish-devel mailinglist but no reaction13:56
saildevwow, thanks morpog! :o this is exactly what I need :)13:56
saildevand fk_lx, okay.. then I use rectangle object and create a custom separator :)13:56
fk_lxyou can use that separator but don't use alignment13:57
fk_lxand you must specify height if I remember correctly13:57
fk_lxwait a sec13:57
saildevwell, i can't see a damn thing if i try to use it..13:58
saildevno matter do i use different height or color13:58
saildevah, width has to be there as well13:58
saildevgot it working, thank you :)13:58
fk_lxwell there are many these kind of bugs, but no one does care13:59
fk_lxdocumentation is not the thing there is appropriate accent being put on13:59
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saildevyeah i've noticed it as well..14:01
fk_lxyou need to provide width also14:01
fk_lxah sorry14:01
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fk_lxmixed lines seen14:02
fk_lxtoo tired probably14:02
Morpog_N9I guess too much work and too less sailors14:02
fk_lxMorpog_N9: you don't need more sailors, just put that goddamn documentation on wiki or github14:02
fk_lxso people would be able to submit corrections14:03
Morpog_N9if there is any docs in acceptable form14:03
fk_lxI've already written about how documentation should look like in that blogpost on Stskeeps blog14:03
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fk_lxthey need to do sth about it and I don't believe that after launch they will have time for that, then there will be work on updates, new devices etc.14:06
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saildevyeah, that's exactly the same thing that has crossed my mind as well..14:06
fk_lxI'm afraid we can talk about it as much as we can, but that won't change much14:10
* fk_lx is pesimist today14:11
fk_lxbtw. wondering if the bug with flying push up menu still exist in the current SDK: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m48vx5w4lgee6za/flying_pushup_menu.png14:14
saildevwow.. haven't seen that one before14:15
saildevor is this related to the visible variable?14:16
saildevbecause if you set pulley menu's visible to false it can still be accessed but it won't show any content..14:16
saildevit's frustrating because sometimes there are no reason for it to be enabled..14:17
fk_lxwell as far as I remember it was possible to do such thing when you had on screen keyboard and push up menu14:17
saildevand if you try it via enabled variable it created a stupid looking bounce effect14:17
saildevah, okay14:17
fk_lxso if you tried to push up menu with keyboard on screen14:17
saildevwell, i think we both know there will be bugs when we get the device :)14:17
saildevbut yeah.. it is annoying when it has those little bugs that won't be fixed..14:19
saildevlet's hope all of the source becomes open so we're able to contribute in it :)14:20
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fk_lxsaildev: how was it? hope for the best, prepare for the worst14:26
fk_lxsaildev: ;-)14:26
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saildevpretty much, yeah :D but still i believe things will work out ;)14:26
saildevso that's the third and last thing on that phrase14:26
saildevi'm optimistic, you know ^^14:27
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fk_lxsaildev: someone has to ;-)14:28
fk_lxsaildev: sorry, maybe I'm not in the best mood today14:28
saildevyeah, no problem14:29
saildevpast few days i've tried to be positive because otherwise i would collapse under personal issues... lol :D14:29
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MMorican anyone point me to a right direction when I want to enable user to take and save a photo in my application?14:49
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MMorior atleast browse and select already taken photos from phone memory14:51
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coderusMMori: make filesmodel14:52
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MMoricoderus, how would it work?14:53
coderusbase on QAbstractListModel and add model data from recursive search in user directory or just photos directory14:56
MMorithanks, I will take a look14:57
MMoriI'm new with models, so I still need a bit practise to wrap my head around the consept14:58
coderusMMori: it easy. just implement functions you need :)15:00
coderusMMori: following:15:00
coderus    int rowCount(const QModelIndex &parent = QModelIndex()) const;15:00
coderus    QVariant data(const QModelIndex &index, int role = Qt::DisplayRole) const;15:00
coderus    virtual QHash<int, QByteArray> roleNames() const { return _roles; }15:00
coderusMMori: should be enough for simple model15:00
MMori:) thank you coderus, I shall experiment with that. You just saved me a lot time15:02
faenilhave a look at the gallery document model from QML15:06
coderusfaenil: its not interesting :D15:07
MMoriI shall faenil15:07
faenilcoderus, why not? if he only wants to browse15:07
coderusfaenil: its experience in creating own models in Qt15:08
faenilcoderus, ah of course ;)15:08
MMoriwell since you're here and answering, do you happen to know how to enable taking a picture inside my application15:09
saildevfor some reason i've never understood c++.. i've tried to understand it for years but i lost my interest in it15:09
saildevfunny, though, i learn fast almost any other language.. :D15:10
saildevbut c++ gives me cold chills15:10
faenilMMori, not sure that's supported already, I don't know honestly sorry15:10
MMorifaenil, that's ok :) thanks for answering15:10
faenilnp ;)15:10
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saildevhow do I change the application icon?15:37
saildevI replaced the <project>.png with my own icon but that didn't do the trick..15:38
saildevi also cleaned the entire project and tried again but no15:38
saildevor do i have to delete the previous build from emulator and then build it up again?15:38
kaltsido you deploy as rpm?15:39
kaltsiinteresting, I wonder if the icon name stays the same but content changes, does lipstick notice that the icon changed..15:40
Morpog_N9_maybe some buildcache?15:41
saildevwell, i tried to change the application name and it worked without any cleaning or removing old rpm and replacing it with the new one..15:43
saildevbut the icon hasn't changed15:43
saildevah, got it working now..15:44
kaltsiI tried just changing icon content.. lipstick didn't update it before bootig the emulator15:44
saildevi just closed and opened the emulator :)15:44
saildevyeah, indeed15:45
kaltsimm.. buggy :)15:45
MMorisaildev: I had some bad luck some time ago when I renamed my first page and didn't remember to change the correct name to the main qml file. Everything seemed to build ok, run ok and work ok, no errors were shown but no content in the application changed. it took me a while to locate the "broken link" because the ide didn't yell at me15:45
saildevoh, i haven't got that kind of problem before.. :o15:45
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saildevbut yeah.. if you rename the .qml files you have to change it in .pro file :)15:46
saildevon an older version it had to be changed in .cpp file as well, if you changed the name of main.qml15:46
MMoriEverything was fine in .pro file, refactoring in qtcreator did the trick that far, but it didn't change the reference in main.qml15:47
saildevi haven't got that kind of problem :D15:47
MMorimystery still remains, how does that cache earlier builds since it ran code from files that didn't exsist anymore15:49
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saildevit was karma i suppose :P15:50
saildevdid you do something bad earlier that day?15:50
MMorihmm, let me think. It was weekend, I might have been lazy that day15:50
saildevthere you go15:50
MMoriit's a sin I guess :P15:50
saildevproblem solved15:51
MMorithanks saildev, now I know the solution15:51
MMoriIt's been bothering me ever since15:51
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saildevyour welcome :)15:52
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thesignalhi, how do i install my application in the vbox image, so i can see my icon in the application launcher?16:57
saildevdeploy as rpm16:58
thesignalsaildev: thx17:01
saildevnp :)17:01
thesignalsaildev: i saw you writing a lot in here, what are you working on?17:02
saildevyou can search on twitter via my name (@saildev) with what i work on17:03
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thesignalah, i see some games17:04
saildevmusic library, yahtzee with different variations, jollasuomi.fi application, weather, open source movie library, wine cellar, beer brewery, whiskey database, geocoding, places, ...17:06
saildevi have a lot of stuff coming up :)17:06
thesignalgreat, the store needs a lot of apps :D17:06
thesignaldo you have a video of the weather app? i haven't found any on youtube17:07
thesignali was wondering if the first weather apps will be using the covers really good17:07
Morpog_N9_i hope meecast gets ported too17:09
Morpog_N9_best weather app ever17:09
thesignalMorpog_N9_: i've never heard of it, but i haven't ever use a meego device ;)17:11
thesignalbut jolla is preordered17:11
Morpog_N9_N9 eas lovelx17:12
Morpog_N9_jolla seems to be even more lovely17:12
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thesignalafter i got disappointed by the E7 and symbian3 i moved back to android again17:13
thesignalbut now it's time for a change17:13
thesignali'm really curious about the "other half"17:13
Morpog_N9_and what the limitrd one is17:14
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thesignali hope they'll send us some colors with it too17:16
thesignaland i also hope i won't get a pink one :D17:16
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situI am getting this error when I try to run tweetian on emulator : 'error while loading shared libraries: libQt5Declarative.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory' Any idea how to fix this ?17:29
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saildevthesignal: no i don't have any video of my weather application yet :)17:32
saildevi have done some research for it and designing it but nothing to be show yet :) just some demos17:32
situqt5-qtquick1 is already installed on my system.17:33
saildevsitu: have you zyppered any qt5-qtdeclarative-* packages?17:33
situsaildev: Shouldn't this be in qt5-qtquick1 package ?17:33
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saildevsince the latest sdk update it supports qtquick2, so why you're using qtquick1?17:33
situI am just trying to port Qt4 app to Qt5.17:34
shmerlHi. Does anyone know which repo gstreamer plugins usually come from? They don't seem to be in the Mer core.17:34
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saildevsitu: which imports do you have and have you zyppered in anything?17:36
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situsaildev: Here's the code https://github.com/veskuh/Tweetian/tree/sailfish-port17:37
situI haven't zyppered in anyting specifiec.17:37
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saildevokay.. i suppose you need to zypper in if you're talking about tweetian17:38
situzypper in what ?17:38
saildevi haven't checked tweetian's source code so i can not help you17:38
saildevtry veskuh :)17:38
saildevi mean ask from veskuh17:39
saildevhe was here few hours a go..17:39
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situThat's fine, I will try to catch him later.17:39
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saildevokay :)17:41
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situsaildev: I fixed the problem by doing "sudo zypper in qt5-qtquick1" in sailfish vm, but I wonder why I have to do it separately. qt5-qtquick1 package was being shown as installed in sailfish tab in QtCreator IDE.17:48
saildevwell, there are 2 ways to install packages17:48
saildevvia zypper or from sailfish sdk center but then you have to manually add it to your  requires in .yaml file17:49
artemmaimho .yaml/spec is the proper way17:55
artemmaas it will work on somebody's else machine too17:55
saildevyeah well.. i prefer it via .yaml as well, but some say zypper is better because it's the only thing you need17:56
saildeveveryone on their own way :)17:56
situartemma: You are right :)17:57
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situI will add it later.17:58
artemmasaildev: zipper is the only thing you need as long as you build for yourself and run on your own zippered device :D17:59
saildevyes, that is correct17:59
artemmaend users might be have a little difficulty installing dependencies17:59
artemmaand you'll be rejected from app store17:59
saildevyes and yes17:59
saildevlike i said i prefer .yaml as well18:00
artemmaI am fixing the rejection due to wrong dependencies right now actually18:00
artemmajust submitted a fix, will see how it goes18:00
saildevwhat kind of application have you created?18:01
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artemmawell, primitive wikipedia18:05
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saildevah, nice one18:06
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zoldyckis it still a long way to my new shiny Sailfish-powered phone?18:08
saildevinformation will come later.. just hold on :)18:08
zoldyckok :)18:09
artemmalocal operator (DNA) started advertising it18:10
artemmait does come for Christmas then18:10
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zoldyckartemma: is it the Finnish DNA?18:11
zoldyckunlocked version?18:11
zoldyckthat's good news anyway18:11
Yanielnot yet on their product page though18:12
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situI have added sailfishsilica-qt5 under required section in project's yaml file. Still getting 'module "Sailfish.Silica" is not installed ' at runtime.18:12
artemmatry cleaning18:13
siturequires *18:13
artemmaand as a double-check, have a look at .spec file18:13
artemmato see if this name was synced into .spec18:13
situI have it Requires:   sailfishsilica-qt518:13
saildevcan you see it in .yaml AND in .spec?18:14
saildevand like artemma said try build - clean project18:14
saildevthen give it a new try18:14
artemmanote that there are "- " characters in .yaml18:15
artemmaI think both dash and tabulation level are important18:15
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situNo luck18:21
saildevhave you cleaned the project?18:22
saildevdo you have any other projects open at the same time?18:24
Jonniand your deploying as rpm? as rsync doesnt install requirements?18:25
saildevJonni, was just coming to it :)18:25
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situNope, I am deploying as binary.18:27
saildevwell, there you go :)18:27
situI  had run hellosailfish app earlier, if that had installed requirements I don't I need to reinstall it.18:27
Jonnibinary deployment never install requirements18:28
Jonninever installs even18:28
Jonniso it ignores whatever you and to yaml and spec18:29
Jonniyou add even even18:29
Jonnitypo day for me :)18:29
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situPoint is, hellosailfish app also uses silica module, I was able to run it succesfully on VM.18:30
Jonnior maybe you have just typoes in your qml and or wrong version numbers18:31
Jonniusually it helps if someone points to his git repo, as blind quessiong is quite hard18:32
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situGood point, I should push my code :)18:35
situPardon any silly mistakes :)18:39
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Jonnisitu: offending line is in qmlapplicationviewer/qmlapplicationviewer.pri:QT += declarative    you should really not try include quick1 stuff18:48
situJonni: Are you sure ? Removing that line fixes the problem ?18:50
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situGotta run to sleep now. I will catch you guys tomorrow. Good night.18:52
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DarkSimWill Sailfish have an app store or a software repository of some sort?18:55
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JonniDarkSim: https://harbour.jolla.com/ is the interface to upload apps to app store. Appstore client is in device firmware.18:58
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jake9xxveskuh: not currently for emulator, we are working on to get basic audio working and usable. Once that part is in, we can look at codecs.19:16
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DarkSimThanks Jonni!19:19
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saildevthank you jake9xx. :)19:29
saildevi've been waiting information about this for a long time :)19:29
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saildevhow do i open a link in a browser - from my application i mean? since i don't have the device i'm not sure how exactly it works so help is appreciated :)19:29
saildevif i press the button "share on twitter" it should open the browser and directs to the page i've placed in my code19:30
saildevis it done in a same way than with meego, or?19:30
locusfsaildev: use qtwebkit?19:33
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locusfsaildev: https://github.com/locusf/bluewhale/blob/master/pages/Login.qml see that webview19:34
saildevi mean does it work like this: onClicked: Qt.openUrlExternally("http://www.google.fi")19:34
gabriel9Anyone have this issue in QT Creator? unknown component (m300)19:35
gabriel9CoverActionList have red underline19:35
saildevlocusf: why should i use it in such a hard way if there's an easy way to open a default web browser and push a certain link in to it. :)19:36
saildevgabriel9: for some reason it does underline it with red color but it hasn't stopped me using it without errors, though.. :D19:36
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gabriel9:D it also works for me, but still it's underlined19:38
saildevjake9xx: how to open a specific url address in default browser from my application? am i able to use Qt.openUrlExternally() ?19:39
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saildevah, never mind.. got it working :)19:42
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gabriel9is there a templete for icons?20:06
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Morpog_N9_gabriel9, not that I know officially20:12
Morpog_N9_but you can use the ones I made for saildev20:13
saildevoh c'mon morpog..20:14
saildevi tried to search that link for like 10 minutes20:14
saildevand when i finally found it20:14
saildevyou come here and ruin everything... :(20:14
saildevfirst i thought you can get it faster but you didn't answer so i had to waste my time..20:15
Morpog_N9_just scrolled up20:15
saildevand for what? nothing! you got it first..20:15
Morpog_N9_and that on a mobile phone :D20:15
saildevyeah well i did so as well.. but i remembered it wasn't that far away so i scrolled back lower..20:15
saildevoh yeah? i'm with my 27" screen20:15
saildevthat must be the reason.. to much text! :D20:15
Morpog_N9_N9 here :D20:16
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Morpog_N9_Venemo, are you already porting irc chatter? I really need that app on my Jolla.20:21
VenemoMorpog_N9_: your Jolla?20:22
VenemoMorpog_N9_: where did you get it? :P20:22
Morpog_N9_well, soon :D20:22
Venemobut yes, I'm working on it20:22
aard_Venemo: well, _I_ would appreciate having it on my Jolla :p20:22
Morpog_N9_irc chatter is just lovely20:22
Venemoat the moment, I'm sucking with some university homework but irc-chatter is next in line :)20:23
aard_Venemo: you're too slow. I stopped using my n9 weeks ago already :p20:23
Venemoaard_: my N9 is begging for a replacement20:23
Morpog_N9_mine too20:24
Venemobasically it tells me every day in various ways, "please don't use me, please don't trust me anymore" and I say "OK, just hold on for one more day!"20:24
Morpog_N9_altough it's still better than android :)20:24
YanielVenemo: just like my N820:24
Venemoit is so bad that I was actually considering to get something else until I get the Jolla! but no, it must hold on20:25
Morpog_N9_my N8 is resting in my dad's hands20:25
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VenemoI already ported puzzle-master though, but it's hard without a device to test on20:26
Morpog_N9_haha Venemo had the same idea, just to have something new to play with I almost bought a Nexus 520:26
aard_Venemo: I can volunteer for testing20:26
VenemoI remember that some things were not figured out yet20:27
Venemosuch as, what's the #ifdef for Jolla20:27
Venemoor how to lock a non-Silica app to landscape20:27
Venemoare there any news about these?20:27
aard_the ifdef bit is a fun part, I had several arguments with w00t about that, so he should answer :p20:27
aard_just plain qml, or qt components?20:28
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Venemoof course chatter will use silica, but puzzle-master uses "plain" QML20:28
faenilmaybe Morpog_N9_ meant my Jolla20:28
Venemofaenil: really :P20:28
Morpog_N9_he is our nemo trojan horse inside jolla ;)20:29
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Venemois faenil inside jolla? did I miss this news?20:29
faenilVenemo, internship, yes I guess you missed it20:30
Morpog_N9_yep u did20:30
aard_Venemo: he tried to keep it as secret as possible20:30
Morpog_N9_he twittered from a jolla20:30
Venemofaenil: how could you not tell me about this20:30
faenilthey're all lieing!20:30
faenilVenemo, I thought you were checking twitter man :P20:30
Venemosometimes I read twitter yes20:31
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dm8tbrrrrriiiiight, so the faenil I met at the Tampere Jolla office was your evil twin?20:31
faenildm8tbr, did you see him!??!20:31
faenilI've been looking for him for ages!20:31
Venemoso, when'll we get our jollas?20:31
faenilgod knows20:31
Venemoif that's all it takes, you can hire me too20:32
gabriel9thanks for icons20:32
gabriel9in the end i created my own in inkscape20:32
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Morpog_N9_best case then20:32
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aard_Venemo: will you be my personal bitch? faenil didn't want to :(20:33
faenilaard_, they told me you were evil!20:33
* faenil poins fingers around in the office, which is empty at the moment20:34
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Morpog_N9_wtf, i thought they were handcuffed to their tables! Stskeeps lied!20:34
aard_Morpog_N9_: they didn't allow me to. I tried!20:35
faenilMorpog_N9_, yeah he did, I'm the one with handcuffs20:35
gabriel9good night, and thanks all for help.20:35
Venemoaard_: I'm not sure, is that an official title in the company?20:36
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dm8tbrVenemo: yes20:36
Morpog_N9_so faenil you stay long in office to play more with that jolla? :D20:36
aard_Morpog_N9_: my guess is that he stays because of better internet20:37
Venemolol dm8tbr20:37
faenilMorpog_N9_, I'm playing with my phone20:37
faenilMorpog_N9_, I don't need to be at the office to play with it :P20:38
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Venemoaard_, dm8tbr: on a second thought, the things is, I'm interested in women, so not sure how I could hold that title20:48
Yanieleveryone can do that20:49
Yanielat least according to a movie I saw recently :D20:49
Yaniel(man that one was terrible)20:49
dm8tbrVenemo: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=8520:50
VenemoYaniel: I'm not sure you how you meant that but if I were you, I wouldn't've admitted watching such a movie on a public channel20:50
* Morpog_N9_ *grabs pocorn*20:52
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Yaniellet's just say that it would have been perfectly fine with less swearing21:04
aard_Yaniel: how can something be better with _less_ swearing?!21:07
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