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| Custodian | harbour is opened once again, dock now! https://harbour.jolla.com | 08:46 |
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| dm8tbr | hmm seems to not have exploded so far. time to post updates to g+ | 08:51 |
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| locusf | already submitting an app there :) | 08:56 |
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| coderus | can anyone explain about using sb2 with SailfishSDK | 09:32 |
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| coderus | ? | 09:32 |
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| faenil | coderus, I've never tried sb2 directly on sdk, sorry | 09:38 |
| faenil | always used it for nemo with selfbuilt targets | 09:38 |
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| locusf | FYI for all harbour submitters, mb2 is broken and doesn't produce armv7hl rpms very well, at least it names them as i486 | 09:43 |
| locusf | so to fix this, use regular mb | 09:43 |
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| lbt | mb ... *sigh* | 09:58 |
| locusf | yeah, I know :/ | 09:59 |
| saildev | mmh, I'm not so familiar with this thing since I haven't developed applications to any other platform yet.. so basically what does it mean? :) | 10:00 |
| coderus | faenil: okay. how to setup it for nemo? can i just use same procedure with different rootfs? | 10:00 |
| faenil | coderus, follow the guide I posted on mailinglist | 10:01 |
| coderus | faenil: this wiki is not clear for me | 10:03 |
| faenil | coderus, tell me what's not clear and I'll explain ;) | 10:03 |
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| saildev | so can someone explain me this mb2/mb thing? | 10:06 |
| coderus | saildev: well, i think now i'm trying to figure out same thing :) | 10:07 |
| coderus | faenil: so, did yiu tried SailfishSDK? it creates armel and i486 sb2 targets but using them falling with error | 10:08 |
| faenil | coderus, yes but sailfish sdk has a different setup with targets inside vms iirc | 10:09 |
| faenil | so I don't know about special rules that apply there | 10:09 |
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| faenil | coderus, but you didn't tell me what's not clear in the guide ;) I can help with that, if you need | 10:28 |
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| saildev | not sure is it just me or a bug with the latest sdk bug but my sounds has stopped working on emulator after I did the last sdk update.. | 10:48 |
| saildev | all the other sounds work like they suppose to.. I've checked that I haven't unticked the enable sounds part from the vb settings | 10:49 |
| saildev | I have tested all the audio drivers and controllers I found onv b settings | 10:49 |
| saildev | ... still nothing | 10:49 |
| saildev | any ideas? | 10:49 |
| locusf | hmm now I just need an icon, rpm tested on device and it works | 10:49 |
| saildev | only thing I need is to somehow enable sounds so I know they work 100%.. :( | 10:51 |
| Morpog_N9 | locusf, maybe I can have a go on it latet, what do you have in mind? | 10:52 |
| locusf | Morpog_N9: a blue whale basically :) | 10:53 |
| locusf | though it could borrow the simplicity from Evernote icon | 10:53 |
| locusf | https://www.evernote.com/shard/s352/res/15e08b39-8859-4ce2-aebd-af661853fade.png?resizeSmall&width=1340 | 10:54 |
| locusf | hmm that probably doesn't work | 10:54 |
| MMori | no the link doesn't work | 10:55 |
| locusf | yeah figured as much | 10:55 |
| locusf | well you can see it in www.evernote.com | 10:56 |
| saildev | everybody ignores me here? | 10:56 |
| MMori | saildev, we just don't have an answer | 10:56 |
| MMori | I haven't been testing the sounds | 10:56 |
| MMori | locusf, that's a nice icon | 10:56 |
| saildev | well, if people here talks to each others and someone asks does someone know the answer, maybe those people could say "no, we don't know" instead just keep talking.. | 10:57 |
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| MMori | I'm sorry saildev, I don't know the answer. | 10:58 |
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| saildev | yes, you said it already... | 10:58 |
| MMori | I have a short memory | 10:58 |
| saildev | thank you anyways.. | 10:58 |
| MMori | but I agree with you, this channel is a great way to communicate with other developers and we should keep the community warm | 10:59 |
| locusf | Morpog_N9: thanks for this | 11:01 |
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| MMori | Countdown by Sfiet_Konst? | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konst | MMori: :D | 11:04 |
| MMori | :) | 11:04 |
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| saildev | so what about the icon templates? I do have the settings, default and components icons but none of them are empty.. so how I'm suppose to create the icons? | 11:15 |
| MMori | I was wondering the same thing last week | 11:15 |
| saildev | little things but at least for me who prefers the "real" sailfish icons with shame template than native applications is important.. | 11:15 |
| saildev | yeah well I've been wondering that for 2 months now and no one from Jolla answers me. | 11:16 |
| saildev | and about a half year a go they said the complete icon template package will come before the release.. well, we're able to send the applications to Harbour but can not create icons.. | 11:16 |
| MMori | http://sfietkonstantin.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/icons.png | 11:16 |
| saildev | weird :/ | 11:16 |
| MMori | does that help you at all? | 11:17 |
| MMori | google is a friend | 11:17 |
| saildev | yes, if the size is correct.. I think it was changed since last time? | 11:17 |
| locusf | its 86x86 nowadays | 11:17 |
| locusf | in Jolla harbour at the moment | 11:18 |
| MMori | http://sfietkonstantin.wordpress.com/2013/06/25/comments-on-jolla-ui/ yeah, the artice is from June.. | 11:18 |
| saildev | yeah, just checked it as well.. | 11:18 |
| saildev | but the sounds are still mystery | 11:18 |
| saildev | I could send the yahtzee game to there but the sounds of the dice rolling were so awesome :( | 11:18 |
| saildev | and now I can not test it because the sounds won't work | 11:19 |
| saildev | aaaargh... | 11:19 |
| locusf | ouch | 11:19 |
| saildev | I even reinstalled my whole OS to make sure I start everything from the scratch and I haven't screwed any settings | 11:19 |
| saildev | didn't help :( | 11:19 |
| locusf | send me the armv7hl rpm and I'll test it on my N9 | 11:19 |
| saildev | okay, hold on a sec.. | 11:20 |
| MMori | I'm hoping we'll get our hands on the actual devices soon enough | 11:20 |
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| saildev | yeah.. at least DNA finland post a tweet which said something like "jolla fans do not have to wait for the christmas to get all the presents" and they posted an image with a package that said "i am the other half" on top of it .) | 11:21 |
| locusf | do you guys already know how to make screenshots with the lipstick screenshot tool? | 11:21 |
| saildev | https://twitter.com/DNA_fi/status/400194483825803264 | 11:21 |
| MMori | saildev: saw that too, I'm excited | 11:22 |
| saildev | no i haven't explored it yet.. although I need it later but it's not critical for me at the moment.. | 11:22 |
| locusf | ok good | 11:22 |
| MMori | locusf, I don't know | 11:22 |
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| locusf | MMori: its quite simple actually, you just install lipstick-qt5-tools to the emulator with zypper | 11:23 |
| locusf | via SSH | 11:23 |
| MMori | that's cool | 11:24 |
| faenil | locusf, just run it | 11:26 |
| locusf | faenil: yeah I already did via ssh | 11:26 |
| faenil | and it will tell you the usage | 11:26 |
| faenil | ok ;) | 11:26 |
| locusf | I was just wondering if anyone needs help with it as screenshots are required to the jolla harbour | 11:26 |
| saildev | that icon image you linked me doesn't help.. at least i'm not able to seperate a good looking icon from the rest of the image.. :/ | 11:27 |
| faenil | ah ok :) misunderstood ;) | 11:27 |
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| saildev | i was kinda hoping there would be same kind of template package than there are for meego applications | 11:27 |
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| MMori | locusf, is there any tutorials available on installing it? | 11:32 |
| locusf | MMori: hmm probably not | 11:33 |
| MMori | it's good you pointed out that the screenshots are required | 11:33 |
| saildev | locusf: here you go.. https://www.dropbox.com/s/o42v271g7xl4p8e/Yahtzee-0.1-1.armv7hl.rpm | 11:34 |
| saildev | like i said the icon is actually the only thing that has to be changed | 11:34 |
| saildev | unless it contains any bugs but as far as i can tell it shouldn't :D | 11:35 |
| locusf | saildev: cool :) | 11:35 |
| saildev | so let me know then, okay? :) | 11:35 |
| locusf | sure | 11:35 |
| locusf | if I can get it working that is :) | 11:35 |
| saildev | yeah.. :D | 11:36 |
| saildev | how do you run it on n9? | 11:36 |
| locusf | I just installed the Silica Qt5 binaries from armv7hl target | 11:37 |
| locusf | nothing more | 11:37 |
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| saildev | hmm, do you have any kind of quick-guide how? | 11:37 |
| saildev | because I have n9 as well.. :) | 11:38 |
| saildev | if it's working, though :D | 11:38 |
| saildev | ah, forget it.. first I thought you're able to run it normally on n9 but then I realized that it's like a sailfish sdk emulator on n9 so you can't do any other n9 stuff with it.. | 11:39 |
| saildev | that's a problem because i use it as a main device so... .) | 11:39 |
| locusf | yes indeed | 11:41 |
| locusf | saildev: in case you change your mind http://locusf.blogspot.fi/2013/11/installing-sdk-version-of-sailfish-on-n9.html | 11:42 |
| locusf | saildev: I can see the icon on the yahtzee | 11:43 |
| saildev | yeah but it's the default one :) | 11:44 |
| locusf | ah ok | 11:44 |
| saildev | isn't it? at least I haven't changed it.. | 11:44 |
| locusf | it is | 11:45 |
| saildev | yeah | 11:45 |
| locusf | I guess since I don't know about the default icons at all | 11:45 |
| locusf | btw http://pastie.org/8474371 | 11:45 |
| saildev | hmm? | 11:45 |
| locusf | so you sent me x86 binaries | 11:46 |
| locusf | I suggest cleaning and then rebuilding in the mersdk as mb build -t SailfishOS-armv7hl rpm/Yahtzee.spec | 11:47 |
| locusf | ah no building in mersdk but in Qt Creator as armv7hl | 11:47 |
| locusf | then that mb build to create a proper rpm | 11:48 |
| saildev | mb: command not found | 11:49 |
| * dm8tbr can also help by testing on device, but only in the evenings. quite busy days in the office at the moment. | 11:49 | |
| coderus | saildev: login to target | 11:49 |
| locusf | saildev: ssh -i SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/engine/mersdk mersdk@localhost -p 2222 | 11:49 |
| saildev | https://www.dropbox.com/s/o42v271g7xl4p8e/Yahtzee-0.1-1.armv7hl.rpm | 11:50 |
| saildev | so let's try again :D | 11:50 |
| locusf | yeah binary now ok | 11:54 |
| saildev | great | 11:54 |
| locusf | saildev: Nov 12 13:54:13 localhost lipstick[396]: /usr/bin/Yahtzee: error while loading shared libraries: libsailfishapp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 11:54 |
| dm8tbr | I was able to zypper install that one | 11:55 |
| dm8tbr | but then again I have a real™ device | 11:55 |
| saildev | :D | 11:55 |
| locusf | lol dm8tbr | 11:55 |
| saildev | tbr do you know about the sound issue with sdk emulator? is it just me or with the latest sdk update a common problem | 11:55 |
| dm8tbr | sound? | 11:55 |
| * dm8tbr checks | 11:56 | |
| saildev | yeah.. i can't hear any sounds on emulator.. i've also tried to reinstall vb, sailfish sdk and my OS.. | 11:56 |
| saildev | nothing helped so far | 11:56 |
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| saildev | and naturally every other sound on my computer works just fine.. and i have checked the audio settings on vb | 11:57 |
| saildev | also i did check the audio settings from the control panel and it doesn't block any application | 11:57 |
| dm8tbr | the machine has audio enabled... | 11:57 |
| locusf | control panel as in windows? | 11:58 |
| saildev | control panel in linux | 11:58 |
| locusf | ah good :) | 11:58 |
| saildev | yes, it has audio enabled | 11:58 |
| locusf | I can't hear any audio as well | 11:58 |
| saildev | and i've tried all possible audio drivers and controllers on vb settings | 11:58 |
| saildev | hmm.. then it could be something to do with the latest sdk update? | 11:59 |
| locusf | yep | 11:59 |
| saildev | i've also tried with xubuntu 12.04 and ubuntu 13.10 | 11:59 |
| locusf | but I can't of course discern wether I have heard sounds before | 11:59 |
| saildev | no difference | 11:59 |
| saildev | oh.. well, i have heard e.g. pulley menu sounds before | 11:59 |
| saildev | but i didn't pay any attention to it until now when i wanted those dice rolling sounds .. | 12:00 |
| dm8tbr | I suspect it's something missing in the emulator VM | 12:06 |
| dm8tbr | I'm trying a few things | 12:06 |
| saildev | okay.. thanks :) | 12:07 |
| saildev | and if you could try the sounds are they working properly? :) | 12:08 |
| saildev | https://www.dropbox.com/s/o42v271g7xl4p8e/Yahtzee-0.1-1.armv7hl.rpm | 12:08 |
| locusf | saildev: do you know about the libsailfishapp.so problem? it didn't come with the rpm? | 12:10 |
| dm8tbr | ok, after installing some gst-plugins* packages I can at least produce sound with gst-launch in the VM | 12:11 |
| saildev | i don't know about the libsailfishapp.so problem.. | 12:12 |
| dm8tbr | you should be able to reproduce this by: | 12:12 |
| dm8tbr | 1) as root in the vm: zypper in gst-plugins-good | 12:12 |
| saildev | i think .so files have nothing to do with rpm packages? | 12:12 |
| Morpog_N9 | locusf https://db.tt/rbf1oVR6 | 12:12 |
| dm8tbr | 2) gst-launch-0.10 audiotestsrc wave=2 freq=200 ! pulsesink | 12:12 |
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| locusf | Morpog_N9: holy crap, nice job :) thanks a ton :9 | 12:13 |
| dm8tbr | tried zypper in libsailfishapp? | 12:13 |
| Morpog_N9 | np :D | 12:13 |
| dm8tbr | package should probably declare dependency on that | 12:13 |
| saildev | tbr any other steps? | 12:14 |
| dm8tbr | saildev: that just helps to verify that audio is working from inside the VM. I'm not sure what is missing to enable audio from the homescreen and apps | 12:16 |
| saildev | hmm | 12:16 |
| saildev | well, maybe it'll get fixed on next sdk update :) | 12:17 |
| dm8tbr | it is easily fixable, you just need to know which package is missing | 12:18 |
| saildev | argh.. any idea? :) | 12:18 |
| dm8tbr | I haven't worked much with this stuff so I'm guessing. someone who did might just know | 12:18 |
| saildev | okay | 12:18 |
| saildev | i'll try to search for it :) | 12:18 |
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| saildev | what about mp3 codecs? still nothing new related to it? | 12:20 |
| dm8tbr | what about that? | 12:21 |
| saildev | last time i asked from veskuh he said there aren't any mp3 codecs available | 12:21 |
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| veskuh | saildev, yeah I meant that SDK don't have time. Device has. | 12:22 |
| saildev | well,i do know that one.. :) but still not available for sdk? | 12:22 |
| dm8tbr | gmf, mouse stopped working in the emulator, now I can't verify if I fixed sound | 12:22 |
| dm8tbr | saildev: tried zypper in gst-plugins-bad ? | 12:22 |
| saildev | haven't found it anywhere so i guess i'll have to wait 'till i get the device so i can work with it :) | 12:22 |
| veskuh | jake9xx, is there a plan to have codecs in SDK? | 12:23 |
| saildev | dm8tbr: for mp3 or sounds in general? | 12:23 |
| dm8tbr | mp3 | 12:24 |
| dm8tbr | it's all based around gstreamer | 12:24 |
| dm8tbr | so installing available gstreamer plugins can help | 12:24 |
| saildev | okay.. i didn't have that one installed | 12:25 |
| saildev | but because i also don't have sounds at all so it's hard to test it now :D | 12:25 |
| dm8tbr | there's also gst-plugins-bad-free and gst-plugins-good | 12:25 |
| locusf | rebooting the emulator might help | 12:25 |
| saildev | gst-plugins-good is already installed | 12:25 |
| dm8tbr | try installing qt5-multimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio | 12:26 |
| dm8tbr | I suspect that one is missing for sound in lipstick etc | 12:26 |
| dm8tbr | but my mouse stopped working so I can't verify | 12:26 |
| saildev | it is installed already | 12:26 |
| dm8tbr | wasn't here | 12:27 |
| saildev | oh | 12:27 |
| saildev | i tried it and it was installed :) | 12:27 |
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| saildev | so frustrating when i can't get the sounds working.. :( | 12:31 |
| saildev | not sure what's the problem | 12:31 |
| saildev | nice looking bluewhale icon, locusf Morpog_N9 | 12:32 |
| locusf | its so cute and cuddly :) | 12:33 |
| saildev | indeed | 12:33 |
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| saildev | i'll try to reboot if i get my sounds working.. | 12:36 |
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| saildev | so, let's see | 12:39 |
| saildev | damn.. no sounds :( | 12:40 |
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| lbt | saildev: hi - there are some known issues with sound | 12:49 |
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| saildev | lbt: oh, so i'm not the only one? | 12:49 |
| lbt | I've not been working on this recently so I'm not up-to-date I'm afraid | 12:49 |
| saildev | oh, okay.. | 12:49 |
| lbt | saildev: no, it's not just you :) | 12:49 |
| saildev | good.. i've ripping my hair off here trying to get it work :D | 12:50 |
| lbt | what host OS ? | 12:50 |
| saildev | xubuntu | 12:50 |
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| lbt | it *should* work :) | 12:50 |
| saildev | ? | 12:50 |
| lbt | it's probably something in ubuntu sound settings for virtualbox | 12:51 |
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| lbt | since the identical VM works in MacOS (I think) | 12:51 |
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| lbt | it could be the sound device used in vbox or it could be the mixer in ubuntu | 12:51 |
| saildev | hmm.. | 12:51 |
| saildev | i have used this actually all the time but after last sdk update something went wrong.. | 12:52 |
| lbt | if you have another linux VM image that works in vbox you could try that | 12:52 |
| saildev | but i've tried to check from audio settings | 12:52 |
| lbt | eg run fedora inside a vbox and see if you hear fedora sounds | 12:52 |
| saildev | i don't have any linux vm images.. :( | 12:53 |
| lbt | google is your friend :) | 12:53 |
| saildev | and to be honest i don't know how they work | 12:53 |
| lbt | ah, OK | 12:53 |
| lbt | yeah, it gets a bit gnarly | 12:53 |
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| lbt | I'm sure it will get fixed soon - our QA girl says it's broken for her on ubuntu too | 12:54 |
| saildev | okay | 12:55 |
| saildev | well, i concentrate on other applications which doesn't require any sound usage :) and i'll wait for the fix | 12:55 |
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| saildev | hmm.. what is a new value for this qml element: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-separator.html | 13:11 |
| saildev | i mean instead of this alignment.. doesn't seem to work | 13:11 |
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| Morpog_N9 | saildev, made some jolla icon shapes for you and anybody elsein SVG: https://db.tt/U7JtQ6MN | 13:54 |
| fk_lx | saildev: alignment didn't work also in previous version of SDK, it's broken | 13:55 |
| fk_lx | saildev: I've posted about it some time ago on sailfish-devel mailinglist but no reaction | 13:56 |
| saildev | wow, thanks morpog! :o this is exactly what I need :) | 13:56 |
| saildev | and fk_lx, okay.. then I use rectangle object and create a custom separator :) | 13:56 |
| fk_lx | saildev: | 13:56 |
| fk_lx | no | 13:56 |
| saildev | no? | 13:57 |
| fk_lx | you can use that separator but don't use alignment | 13:57 |
| fk_lx | and you must specify height if I remember correctly | 13:57 |
| fk_lx | wait a sec | 13:57 |
| saildev | well, i can't see a damn thing if i try to use it.. | 13:58 |
| saildev | no matter do i use different height or color | 13:58 |
| saildev | ah, width has to be there as well | 13:58 |
| fk_lx | https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-September/000759.html | 13:58 |
| fk_lx | yep | 13:58 |
| saildev | got it working, thank you :) | 13:58 |
| fk_lx | well there are many these kind of bugs, but no one does care | 13:59 |
| fk_lx | documentation is not the thing there is appropriate accent being put on | 13:59 |
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| saildev | yeah i've noticed it as well.. | 14:01 |
| fk_lx | you need to provide width also | 14:01 |
| fk_lx | ah sorry | 14:01 |
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| fk_lx | mixed lines seen | 14:02 |
| fk_lx | ;-) | 14:02 |
| fk_lx | too tired probably | 14:02 |
| Morpog_N9 | I guess too much work and too less sailors | 14:02 |
| saildev | :D | 14:02 |
| fk_lx | Morpog_N9: you don't need more sailors, just put that goddamn documentation on wiki or github | 14:02 |
| fk_lx | so people would be able to submit corrections | 14:03 |
| Morpog_N9 | if there is any docs in acceptable form | 14:03 |
| fk_lx | I've already written about how documentation should look like in that blogpost on Stskeeps blog | 14:03 |
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| fk_lx | they need to do sth about it and I don't believe that after launch they will have time for that, then there will be work on updates, new devices etc. | 14:06 |
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| saildev | yeah, that's exactly the same thing that has crossed my mind as well.. | 14:06 |
| Morpog_N9 | true | 14:06 |
| fk_lx | I'm afraid we can talk about it as much as we can, but that won't change much | 14:10 |
| * fk_lx is pesimist today | 14:11 | |
| fk_lx | btw. wondering if the bug with flying push up menu still exist in the current SDK: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m48vx5w4lgee6za/flying_pushup_menu.png | 14:14 |
| saildev | wow.. haven't seen that one before | 14:15 |
| saildev | or is this related to the visible variable? | 14:16 |
| saildev | because if you set pulley menu's visible to false it can still be accessed but it won't show any content.. | 14:16 |
| saildev | it's frustrating because sometimes there are no reason for it to be enabled.. | 14:17 |
| fk_lx | well as far as I remember it was possible to do such thing when you had on screen keyboard and push up menu | 14:17 |
| saildev | and if you try it via enabled variable it created a stupid looking bounce effect | 14:17 |
| saildev | ah, okay | 14:17 |
| fk_lx | so if you tried to push up menu with keyboard on screen | 14:17 |
| saildev | well, i think we both know there will be bugs when we get the device :) | 14:17 |
| saildev | but yeah.. it is annoying when it has those little bugs that won't be fixed.. | 14:19 |
| saildev | let's hope all of the source becomes open so we're able to contribute in it :) | 14:20 |
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| fk_lx | saildev: how was it? hope for the best, prepare for the worst | 14:26 |
| fk_lx | saildev: ;-) | 14:26 |
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| saildev | pretty much, yeah :D but still i believe things will work out ;) | 14:26 |
| saildev | so that's the third and last thing on that phrase | 14:26 |
| saildev | i'm optimistic, you know ^^ | 14:27 |
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| fk_lx | saildev: someone has to ;-) | 14:28 |
| fk_lx | saildev: sorry, maybe I'm not in the best mood today | 14:28 |
| saildev | yeah, no problem | 14:29 |
| saildev | past few days i've tried to be positive because otherwise i would collapse under personal issues... lol :D | 14:29 |
| fk_lx | :-) | 14:29 |
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| MMori | can anyone point me to a right direction when I want to enable user to take and save a photo in my application? | 14:49 |
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| MMori | or atleast browse and select already taken photos from phone memory | 14:51 |
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| coderus | MMori: make filesmodel | 14:52 |
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| MMori | coderus, how would it work? | 14:53 |
| coderus | base on QAbstractListModel and add model data from recursive search in user directory or just photos directory | 14:56 |
| MMori | thanks, I will take a look | 14:57 |
| MMori | I'm new with models, so I still need a bit practise to wrap my head around the consept | 14:58 |
| coderus | MMori: it easy. just implement functions you need :) | 15:00 |
| coderus | MMori: following: | 15:00 |
| coderus | int rowCount(const QModelIndex &parent = QModelIndex()) const; | 15:00 |
| coderus | QVariant data(const QModelIndex &index, int role = Qt::DisplayRole) const; | 15:00 |
| coderus | virtual QHash<int, QByteArray> roleNames() const { return _roles; } | 15:00 |
| coderus | MMori: should be enough for simple model | 15:00 |
| MMori | :) thank you coderus, I shall experiment with that. You just saved me a lot time | 15:02 |
| faenil | have a look at the gallery document model from QML | 15:06 |
| coderus | faenil: its not interesting :D | 15:07 |
| MMori | I shall faenil | 15:07 |
| faenil | coderus, why not? if he only wants to browse | 15:07 |
| coderus | faenil: its experience in creating own models in Qt | 15:08 |
| faenil | coderus, ah of course ;) | 15:08 |
| MMori | well since you're here and answering, do you happen to know how to enable taking a picture inside my application | 15:09 |
| saildev | for some reason i've never understood c++.. i've tried to understand it for years but i lost my interest in it | 15:09 |
| saildev | funny, though, i learn fast almost any other language.. :D | 15:10 |
| saildev | but c++ gives me cold chills | 15:10 |
| faenil | MMori, not sure that's supported already, I don't know honestly sorry | 15:10 |
| MMori | faenil, that's ok :) thanks for answering | 15:10 |
| faenil | np ;) | 15:10 |
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| saildev | how do I change the application icon? | 15:37 |
| saildev | I replaced the <project>.png with my own icon but that didn't do the trick.. | 15:38 |
| saildev | i also cleaned the entire project and tried again but no | 15:38 |
| saildev | or do i have to delete the previous build from emulator and then build it up again? | 15:38 |
| kaltsi | do you deploy as rpm? | 15:39 |
| saildev | yes | 15:40 |
| kaltsi | interesting, I wonder if the icon name stays the same but content changes, does lipstick notice that the icon changed.. | 15:40 |
| Morpog_N9_ | maybe some buildcache? | 15:41 |
| saildev | well, i tried to change the application name and it worked without any cleaning or removing old rpm and replacing it with the new one.. | 15:43 |
| saildev | but the icon hasn't changed | 15:43 |
| saildev | ah, got it working now.. | 15:44 |
| kaltsi | I tried just changing icon content.. lipstick didn't update it before bootig the emulator | 15:44 |
| saildev | i just closed and opened the emulator :) | 15:44 |
| saildev | yeah, indeed | 15:45 |
| saildev | :D | 15:45 |
| kaltsi | mm.. buggy :) | 15:45 |
| MMori | saildev: I had some bad luck some time ago when I renamed my first page and didn't remember to change the correct name to the main qml file. Everything seemed to build ok, run ok and work ok, no errors were shown but no content in the application changed. it took me a while to locate the "broken link" because the ide didn't yell at me | 15:45 |
| saildev | oh, i haven't got that kind of problem before.. :o | 15:45 |
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| saildev | but yeah.. if you rename the .qml files you have to change it in .pro file :) | 15:46 |
| saildev | on an older version it had to be changed in .cpp file as well, if you changed the name of main.qml | 15:46 |
| MMori | Everything was fine in .pro file, refactoring in qtcreator did the trick that far, but it didn't change the reference in main.qml | 15:47 |
| saildev | oh.. | 15:47 |
| saildev | i haven't got that kind of problem :D | 15:47 |
| MMori | mystery still remains, how does that cache earlier builds since it ran code from files that didn't exsist anymore | 15:49 |
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| saildev | :D | 15:50 |
| saildev | it was karma i suppose :P | 15:50 |
| saildev | did you do something bad earlier that day? | 15:50 |
| MMori | hmm, let me think. It was weekend, I might have been lazy that day | 15:50 |
| saildev | :D | 15:50 |
| saildev | there you go | 15:50 |
| MMori | it's a sin I guess :P | 15:50 |
| saildev | problem solved | 15:51 |
| saildev | :D | 15:51 |
| MMori | thanks saildev, now I know the solution | 15:51 |
| MMori | It's been bothering me ever since | 15:51 |
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| saildev | your welcome :) | 15:52 |
| MMori | ^^ | 15:53 |
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| thesignal | hi, how do i install my application in the vbox image, so i can see my icon in the application launcher? | 16:57 |
| saildev | deploy as rpm | 16:58 |
| thesignal | saildev: thx | 17:01 |
| saildev | np :) | 17:01 |
| thesignal | saildev: i saw you writing a lot in here, what are you working on? | 17:02 |
| saildev | you can search on twitter via my name (@saildev) with what i work on | 17:03 |
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| thesignal | ah, i see some games | 17:04 |
| saildev | music library, yahtzee with different variations, jollasuomi.fi application, weather, open source movie library, wine cellar, beer brewery, whiskey database, geocoding, places, ... | 17:06 |
| saildev | i have a lot of stuff coming up :) | 17:06 |
| thesignal | great, the store needs a lot of apps :D | 17:06 |
| thesignal | do you have a video of the weather app? i haven't found any on youtube | 17:07 |
| thesignal | i was wondering if the first weather apps will be using the covers really good | 17:07 |
| Morpog_N9_ | i hope meecast gets ported too | 17:09 |
| Morpog_N9_ | best weather app ever | 17:09 |
| thesignal | Morpog_N9_: i've never heard of it, but i haven't ever use a meego device ;) | 17:11 |
| thesignal | but jolla is preordered | 17:11 |
| Morpog_N9_ | N9 eas lovelx | 17:12 |
| Morpog_N9_ | y | 17:12 |
| Morpog_N9_ | was | 17:12 |
| Morpog_N9_ | lol | 17:12 |
| Morpog_N9_ | jolla seems to be even more lovely | 17:12 |
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| thesignal | after i got disappointed by the E7 and symbian3 i moved back to android again | 17:13 |
| thesignal | but now it's time for a change | 17:13 |
| thesignal | i'm really curious about the "other half" | 17:13 |
| Morpog_N9_ | yeah | 17:14 |
| Morpog_N9_ | and what the limitrd one is | 17:14 |
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| thesignal | i hope they'll send us some colors with it too | 17:16 |
| thesignal | and i also hope i won't get a pink one :D | 17:16 |
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| Morpog_N9_ | :D | 17:28 |
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| situ | I am getting this error when I try to run tweetian on emulator : 'error while loading shared libraries: libQt5Declarative.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory' Any idea how to fix this ? | 17:29 |
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| saildev | thesignal: no i don't have any video of my weather application yet :) | 17:32 |
| saildev | i have done some research for it and designing it but nothing to be show yet :) just some demos | 17:32 |
| situ | qt5-qtquick1 is already installed on my system. | 17:33 |
| saildev | situ: have you zyppered any qt5-qtdeclarative-* packages? | 17:33 |
| situ | saildev: Shouldn't this be in qt5-qtquick1 package ? | 17:33 |
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| saildev | since the latest sdk update it supports qtquick2, so why you're using qtquick1? | 17:33 |
| situ | I am just trying to port Qt4 app to Qt5. | 17:34 |
| shmerl | Hi. Does anyone know which repo gstreamer plugins usually come from? They don't seem to be in the Mer core. | 17:34 |
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| saildev | situ: which imports do you have and have you zyppered in anything? | 17:36 |
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| situ | saildev: Here's the code https://github.com/veskuh/Tweetian/tree/sailfish-port | 17:37 |
| situ | I haven't zyppered in anyting specifiec. | 17:37 |
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| saildev | okay.. i suppose you need to zypper in if you're talking about tweetian | 17:38 |
| situ | zypper in what ? | 17:38 |
| saildev | i haven't checked tweetian's source code so i can not help you | 17:38 |
| saildev | try veskuh :) | 17:38 |
| saildev | i mean ask from veskuh | 17:39 |
| saildev | he was here few hours a go.. | 17:39 |
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| situ | That's fine, I will try to catch him later. | 17:39 |
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| saildev | okay :) | 17:41 |
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| situ | saildev: I fixed the problem by doing "sudo zypper in qt5-qtquick1" in sailfish vm, but I wonder why I have to do it separately. qt5-qtquick1 package was being shown as installed in sailfish tab in QtCreator IDE. | 17:48 |
| saildev | well, there are 2 ways to install packages | 17:48 |
| saildev | via zypper or from sailfish sdk center but then you have to manually add it to your requires in .yaml file | 17:49 |
| artemma | imho .yaml/spec is the proper way | 17:55 |
| artemma | as it will work on somebody's else machine too | 17:55 |
| saildev | yeah well.. i prefer it via .yaml as well, but some say zypper is better because it's the only thing you need | 17:56 |
| saildev | everyone on their own way :) | 17:56 |
| situ | artemma: You are right :) | 17:57 |
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| situ | I will add it later. | 17:58 |
| artemma | saildev: zipper is the only thing you need as long as you build for yourself and run on your own zippered device :D | 17:59 |
| saildev | yes, that is correct | 17:59 |
| artemma | end users might be have a little difficulty installing dependencies | 17:59 |
| artemma | and you'll be rejected from app store | 17:59 |
| saildev | yes and yes | 17:59 |
| saildev | like i said i prefer .yaml as well | 18:00 |
| artemma | I am fixing the rejection due to wrong dependencies right now actually | 18:00 |
| artemma | just submitted a fix, will see how it goes | 18:00 |
| saildev | what kind of application have you created? | 18:01 |
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| artemma | Wikipedia | 18:05 |
| artemma | well, primitive wikipedia | 18:05 |
| artemma | http://github.com/amarchen/Wikipedia | 18:06 |
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| saildev | ah, nice one | 18:06 |
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| zoldyck | is it still a long way to my new shiny Sailfish-powered phone? | 18:08 |
| saildev | information will come later.. just hold on :) | 18:08 |
| zoldyck | ok :) | 18:09 |
| artemma | local operator (DNA) started advertising it | 18:10 |
| artemma | it does come for Christmas then | 18:10 |
| artemma | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=745203858826788&set=a.551935021487007.138456.492319420781901&type=1 | 18:10 |
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| zoldyck | artemma: is it the Finnish DNA? | 18:11 |
| artemma | yep | 18:11 |
| zoldyck | unlocked version? | 18:11 |
| zoldyck | that's good news anyway | 18:11 |
| Yaniel | not yet on their product page though | 18:12 |
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| situ | I have added sailfishsilica-qt5 under required section in project's yaml file. Still getting 'module "Sailfish.Silica" is not installed ' at runtime. | 18:12 |
| artemma | try cleaning | 18:13 |
| situ | requires * | 18:13 |
| artemma | and as a double-check, have a look at .spec file | 18:13 |
| artemma | to see if this name was synced into .spec | 18:13 |
| situ | I have it Requires: sailfishsilica-qt5 | 18:13 |
| saildev | can you see it in .yaml AND in .spec? | 18:14 |
| saildev | and like artemma said try build - clean project | 18:14 |
| saildev | then give it a new try | 18:14 |
| artemma | note that there are "- " characters in .yaml | 18:15 |
| artemma | I think both dash and tabulation level are important | 18:15 |
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| situ | No luck | 18:21 |
| saildev | have you cleaned the project? | 18:22 |
| situ | Yes | 18:23 |
| saildev | do you have any other projects open at the same time? | 18:24 |
| situ | Nope | 18:25 |
| Jonni | and your deploying as rpm? as rsync doesnt install requirements? | 18:25 |
| saildev | Jonni, was just coming to it :) | 18:25 |
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| situ | Nope, I am deploying as binary. | 18:27 |
| saildev | well, there you go :) | 18:27 |
| situ | I had run hellosailfish app earlier, if that had installed requirements I don't I need to reinstall it. | 18:27 |
| Jonni | binary deployment never install requirements | 18:28 |
| Jonni | never installs even | 18:28 |
| Jonni | so it ignores whatever you and to yaml and spec | 18:29 |
| Jonni | you add even even | 18:29 |
| Jonni | typo day for me :) | 18:29 |
| saildev | :D | 18:29 |
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| situ | Point is, hellosailfish app also uses silica module, I was able to run it succesfully on VM. | 18:30 |
| Jonni | or maybe you have just typoes in your qml and or wrong version numbers | 18:31 |
| Jonni | usually it helps if someone points to his git repo, as blind quessiong is quite hard | 18:32 |
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| situ | Good point, I should push my code :) | 18:35 |
| situ | https://github.com/siteshwar/Tweetian/tree/sailfish-port | 18:39 |
| situ | Pardon any silly mistakes :) | 18:39 |
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| Jonni | situ: offending line is in qmlapplicationviewer/qmlapplicationviewer.pri:QT += declarative you should really not try include quick1 stuff | 18:48 |
| situ | Jonni: Are you sure ? Removing that line fixes the problem ? | 18:50 |
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| situ | Gotta run to sleep now. I will catch you guys tomorrow. Good night. | 18:52 |
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| DarkSim | Will Sailfish have an app store or a software repository of some sort? | 18:55 |
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| Jonni | DarkSim: https://harbour.jolla.com/ is the interface to upload apps to app store. Appstore client is in device firmware. | 18:58 |
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| jake9xx | veskuh: not currently for emulator, we are working on to get basic audio working and usable. Once that part is in, we can look at codecs. | 19:16 |
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| DarkSim | Thanks Jonni! | 19:19 |
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| saildev | thank you jake9xx. :) | 19:29 |
| saildev | i've been waiting information about this for a long time :) | 19:29 |
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| saildev | how do i open a link in a browser - from my application i mean? since i don't have the device i'm not sure how exactly it works so help is appreciated :) | 19:29 |
| saildev | if i press the button "share on twitter" it should open the browser and directs to the page i've placed in my code | 19:30 |
| saildev | is it done in a same way than with meego, or? | 19:30 |
| locusf | saildev: use qtwebkit? | 19:33 |
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| locusf | saildev: https://github.com/locusf/bluewhale/blob/master/pages/Login.qml see that webview | 19:34 |
| saildev | i mean does it work like this: onClicked: Qt.openUrlExternally("http://www.google.fi") | 19:34 |
| gabriel9 | o/ | 19:35 |
| gabriel9 | Anyone have this issue in QT Creator? unknown component (m300) | 19:35 |
| gabriel9 | CoverActionList have red underline | 19:35 |
| saildev | locusf: why should i use it in such a hard way if there's an easy way to open a default web browser and push a certain link in to it. :) | 19:36 |
| saildev | gabriel9: for some reason it does underline it with red color but it hasn't stopped me using it without errors, though.. :D | 19:36 |
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| gabriel9 | :D it also works for me, but still it's underlined | 19:38 |
| saildev | jake9xx: how to open a specific url address in default browser from my application? am i able to use Qt.openUrlExternally() ? | 19:39 |
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| saildev | ah, never mind.. got it working :) | 19:42 |
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| gabriel9 | is there a templete for icons? | 20:06 |
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| Morpog_N9_ | gabriel9, not that I know officially | 20:12 |
| Morpog_N9_ | but you can use the ones I made for saildev | 20:13 |
| Morpog_N9_ | https://db.tt/U7JtQ6MN | 20:14 |
| saildev | oh c'mon morpog.. | 20:14 |
| saildev | i tried to search that link for like 10 minutes | 20:14 |
| saildev | and when i finally found it | 20:14 |
| saildev | you come here and ruin everything... :( | 20:14 |
| Morpog_N9_ | lol | 20:14 |
| saildev | :D | 20:14 |
| saildev | first i thought you can get it faster but you didn't answer so i had to waste my time.. | 20:15 |
| Morpog_N9_ | just scrolled up | 20:15 |
| saildev | and for what? nothing! you got it first.. | 20:15 |
| Morpog_N9_ | and that on a mobile phone :D | 20:15 |
| saildev | yeah well i did so as well.. but i remembered it wasn't that far away so i scrolled back lower.. | 20:15 |
| saildev | oh yeah? i'm with my 27" screen | 20:15 |
| saildev | that must be the reason.. to much text! :D | 20:15 |
| Morpog_N9_ | N9 here :D | 20:16 |
| Morpog_N9_ | obviously | 20:16 |
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| Morpog_N9_ | Venemo, are you already porting irc chatter? I really need that app on my Jolla. | 20:21 |
| Venemo | Morpog_N9_: your Jolla? | 20:22 |
| Venemo | Morpog_N9_: where did you get it? :P | 20:22 |
| Morpog_N9_ | well, soon :D | 20:22 |
| Venemo | but yes, I'm working on it | 20:22 |
| aard_ | Venemo: well, _I_ would appreciate having it on my Jolla :p | 20:22 |
| Morpog_N9_ | irc chatter is just lovely | 20:22 |
| Venemo | at the moment, I'm sucking with some university homework but irc-chatter is next in line :) | 20:23 |
| Morpog_N9_ | \o/ | 20:23 |
| aard_ | Venemo: you're too slow. I stopped using my n9 weeks ago already :p | 20:23 |
| Venemo | aard_: my N9 is begging for a replacement | 20:23 |
| Morpog_N9_ | argh | 20:23 |
| Morpog_N9_ | mine too | 20:24 |
| Venemo | basically it tells me every day in various ways, "please don't use me, please don't trust me anymore" and I say "OK, just hold on for one more day!" | 20:24 |
| Morpog_N9_ | altough it's still better than android :) | 20:24 |
| Yaniel | Venemo: just like my N8 | 20:24 |
| Venemo | it is so bad that I was actually considering to get something else until I get the Jolla! but no, it must hold on | 20:25 |
| Morpog_N9_ | my N8 is resting in my dad's hands | 20:25 |
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| Venemo | I already ported puzzle-master though, but it's hard without a device to test on | 20:26 |
| Morpog_N9_ | haha Venemo had the same idea, just to have something new to play with I almost bought a Nexus 5 | 20:26 |
| aard_ | Venemo: I can volunteer for testing | 20:26 |
| Venemo | I remember that some things were not figured out yet | 20:27 |
| Venemo | such as, what's the #ifdef for Jolla | 20:27 |
| Venemo | or how to lock a non-Silica app to landscape | 20:27 |
| Venemo | are there any news about these? | 20:27 |
| aard_ | the ifdef bit is a fun part, I had several arguments with w00t about that, so he should answer :p | 20:27 |
| aard_ | just plain qml, or qt components? | 20:28 |
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| Venemo | of course chatter will use silica, but puzzle-master uses "plain" QML | 20:28 |
| faenil | maybe Morpog_N9_ meant my Jolla | 20:28 |
| Venemo | faenil: really :P | 20:28 |
| faenil | :) | 20:29 |
| Morpog_N9_ | he is our nemo trojan horse inside jolla ;) | 20:29 |
| faenil | ahaha | 20:29 |
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| Venemo | is faenil inside jolla? did I miss this news? | 20:29 |
| faenil | Venemo, internship, yes I guess you missed it | 20:30 |
| Morpog_N9_ | yep u did | 20:30 |
| aard_ | Venemo: he tried to keep it as secret as possible | 20:30 |
| Morpog_N9_ | he twittered from a jolla | 20:30 |
| Venemo | faenil: how could you not tell me about this | 20:30 |
| faenil | they're all lieing! | 20:30 |
| faenil | Venemo, I thought you were checking twitter man :P | 20:30 |
| Venemo | sometimes I read twitter yes | 20:31 |
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| dm8tbr | rrrriiiiight, so the faenil I met at the Tampere Jolla office was your evil twin? | 20:31 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, did you see him!??! | 20:31 |
| Venemo | lol | 20:31 |
| faenil | I've been looking for him for ages! | 20:31 |
| Venemo | so, when'll we get our jollas? | 20:31 |
| faenil | god knows | 20:31 |
| dm8tbr | soon™ | 20:31 |
| Venemo | if that's all it takes, you can hire me too | 20:32 |
| gabriel9 | thanks for icons | 20:32 |
| gabriel9 | in the end i created my own in inkscape | 20:32 |
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| Morpog_N9_ | best case then | 20:32 |
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| aard_ | Venemo: will you be my personal bitch? faenil didn't want to :( | 20:33 |
| faenil | aard_, they told me you were evil! | 20:33 |
| * faenil poins fingers around in the office, which is empty at the moment | 20:34 | |
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| Morpog_N9_ | wtf, i thought they were handcuffed to their tables! Stskeeps lied! | 20:34 |
| aard_ | Morpog_N9_: they didn't allow me to. I tried! | 20:35 |
| faenil | Morpog_N9_, yeah he did, I'm the one with handcuffs | 20:35 |
| gabriel9 | good night, and thanks all for help. | 20:35 |
| Venemo | aard_: I'm not sure, is that an official title in the company? | 20:36 |
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| dm8tbr | Venemo: yes | 20:36 |
| Morpog_N9_ | so faenil you stay long in office to play more with that jolla? :D | 20:36 |
| aard_ | Morpog_N9_: my guess is that he stays because of better internet | 20:37 |
| Venemo | lol dm8tbr | 20:37 |
| faenil | Morpog_N9_, I'm playing with my phone | 20:37 |
| faenil | Morpog_N9_, I don't need to be at the office to play with it :P | 20:38 |
| Morpog_N9_ | mmmh | 20:38 |
| Morpog_N9_ | :D | 20:38 |
| faenil | :) | 20:38 |
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| Venemo | aard_, dm8tbr: on a second thought, the things is, I'm interested in women, so not sure how I could hold that title | 20:48 |
| Morpog_N9_ | ahaha | 20:48 |
| Yaniel | everyone can do that | 20:49 |
| Yaniel | at least according to a movie I saw recently :D | 20:49 |
| Yaniel | (man that one was terrible) | 20:49 |
| dm8tbr | Venemo: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=85 | 20:50 |
| Venemo | Yaniel: I'm not sure you how you meant that but if I were you, I wouldn't've admitted watching such a movie on a public channel | 20:50 |
| * Morpog_N9_ *grabs pocorn* | 20:52 | |
| Venemo | lol | 20:52 |
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| Yaniel | let's just say that it would have been perfectly fine with less swearing | 21:04 |
| aard_ | Yaniel: how can something be better with _less_ swearing?! | 21:07 |
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