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| m4g0g | how to install sailfish browser to emulator? | 06:03 |
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| VDVsx | m4g0g, https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/wiki/BuildingInstructions | 06:21 |
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| m4g0g | I know | 06:26 |
| m4g0g | hm | 06:26 |
| m4g0g | no. This is I don't see | 06:26 |
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| furikku | Hello | 07:11 |
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| furikku | I tried Sailfish Browser on Emulator. | 07:11 |
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| m4g0g | I've build browser but I can't install it in emulator: dependencies version problems. How I can add repository with xulrunner and mozembed to emulator? | 07:19 |
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| furikku | m4g0g: nemo-mw repo to emulator. ssu ar http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/mw/latest_i486/ nemo-latest-mw | 07:29 |
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| m4g0g | hi | 07:42 |
| m4g0g | I try to install sailfish browser to emulator | 07:42 |
| Grauwolf | "Since Sailfish OS is pure openSUSE..." is this true? | 07:43 |
| tbr | no | 07:43 |
| m4g0g | I've built it successfully but i can't install rpm in emulator due to dependencies problems: jolla-ambient >= 0.3.24 , libqt5embedwidget.so.1 and sailfishsilica-qt5 >= 0.11.8 | 07:43 |
| tbr | someone confused RPM, OBS and a couple of other things | 07:43 |
| m4g0g | how I can solve this problems? | 07:43 |
| Grauwolf | tbr: this sentence was from http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-syncevolution-on-jollas-sailfish-os/ | 07:44 |
| * tbr sees openrepos, slowly backs away | 07:45 | |
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| furikku | m4g0g: I edit spec file for it ploblem. removed version check. | 07:47 |
| Grauwolf | is it bad? i'm fairly new to sailfish | 07:47 |
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| tbr | Grauwolf: people hate me for it, but I'm of the opinion, that an system that bases on binary RPM upload and doesn't have any QA is a bad design choice. | 07:48 |
| tbr | especially if the packages are open source software | 07:49 |
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| m4g0g | furikku: how did you fix libqt5embedwidget.so.1 dependency? | 07:54 |
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| furikku | install qtmozembed-qt5 from nemo-mw repo. | 07:56 |
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| m4g0g | furikku: yes. Fixed it but there is no browser icon and when I launch it i got only white screen | 08:00 |
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| Grauwolf | tbr: oh you are right. i can't seem to find spec-files. so the code was build on someone's private machines and they just uploaded the binary rpms? | 08:01 |
| Grauwolf | brrrr | 08:01 |
| tbr | Grauwolf: ex-actly | 08:02 |
| tbr | Grauwolf: hence me advocating OBS and the 'chum' repo | 08:03 |
| tbr | it's very slowly picking up speed | 08:03 |
| tbr | currently it's more or less still empty, but there are significant efforts on all levels | 08:03 |
| m4g0g | Wow! I run browser! | 08:03 |
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| Grauwolf | tbr: i'm already using obs heavily for some opensuse packages. where is this sailfish obs at? what is chum? | 08:08 |
| Grauwolf | also. why are some people prefering pkcon and other zypper? are there any problems with either of them that one does better? are they compatible to run side-by-side? | 08:10 |
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| Stskeeps | all zypper functionality isn't in pkcon | 08:12 |
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| m4g0g | guys, who can explain me the process of oath authorization for app if it based on redirect_uri? | 08:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | m4g0g: usually, there are empty redirect_uri to perform oauth on a mobile / desktop | 08:18 |
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| m4g0g | redirect_uri is mandatory parameter and how I can detect success/unsuccess auth in this case? | 08:19 |
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| walokra | m4g0g: from the response you get from the api | 09:26 |
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| m4g0g | walokra: walokra i can detect it if i do next request for access token only. Dirty hack =) | 09:39 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: maybe you should redirect #sailfish to this channel if its no longer used. still people coming in there and getting confused | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: does freenode support redirects? | 09:44 |
| tbr | yes | 09:45 |
| tbr | it's a type of ban with options | 09:45 |
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| Stskeeps | seems to have worked | 09:47 |
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| tbr | :) | 09:48 |
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| tbr | just put a chansitter there so it doesn't get dropped, e.g. chanserv | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i'll stay in there | 09:49 |
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| cos- | i'm looking at source code for a simple mobile app written in phonegap html | 10:16 |
| cos- | this is truly terrible compared to qml | 10:17 |
| Stskeeps | +1 | 10:17 |
| cos- | 800loc for a single input form | 10:17 |
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| Acce | cos-: I want to see! | 10:31 |
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| juke_ | i must say that qml has been the easies way to implement UI that i've witnessed so far | 10:41 |
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| matoking | Hey, is there a way to get mkfs.vfat working in Jolla? | 10:54 |
| matoking | It doesn't seem to be installed | 10:55 |
| Nicd- | it's in mer-tools maybe | 10:55 |
| Nicd- | I have it on my phone at least | 10:56 |
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| cos- | Acce: customer project, sorry :-) | 10:56 |
| cos- | luckily i don't need to touch that code | 10:57 |
| juke_ | how do i handle side swipes? | 10:58 |
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| Acce | cos-: too bad :) | 11:07 |
| Acce | juke_: what do you mean by side swipes? | 11:07 |
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| rcg | what's the preferred way to get notifications about incoming calls and sms? | 11:17 |
| rcg | there is lots of stuff going on on dbus | 11:17 |
| rcg | but maybe there is already some best practice what dbus method/signal should be used? | 11:18 |
| tbr | ofono at least will give you info on the incoming number | 11:19 |
| tbr | but it doesn't seem to resolve the name | 11:19 |
| kimmoli | "org.ofono", "/ril_0", "org.ofono.VoiceCallManager", "CallAdded" - just as indicator | 11:20 |
| kimmoli | "org.ofono", "/ril_0", "org.ofono.MessageManager", "IncomingMessage" - gives contents of SMS | 11:20 |
| rcg | thx for the pointers :) | 11:21 |
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| kimmoli | i'm looking way to detect that the call was answered or missed. (now clearing it at "notificationClosed" (but does not work when answered) | 11:21 |
| rcg | ah, yeah, that will be handy as well | 11:23 |
| tbr | yeah, I'll need pretty much the same stuff | 11:23 |
| special | what for, ooi? | 11:23 |
| tbr | also resolving number to name would be nice | 11:23 |
| * tbr still wants to support his metawatch | 11:23 | |
| rcg | btw. do you use the dbus nemo qml plugin? | 11:23 |
| rcg | tbr, ;) | 11:23 |
| rcg | i am currently working on getting pebble running :) | 11:24 |
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| rcg | so far, i can already control the media player and get the now playing data to the watch | 11:24 |
| tbr | :) | 11:24 |
| tbr | nice! | 11:24 |
| rcg | maybe i can get a first prototype ready for download this weekend | 11:24 |
| kimmoli | org.freedesktop.Notifications should emit signal "NotificationAdded"... | 11:24 |
| rcg | this is all very much work-in-progress but maybe some helpful hands join in :) | 11:25 |
| chriadam | tbr: https://github.com/nemomobile/libcontacts/blob/master/src/seasidecache.cpp#L881 | 11:28 |
| tbr | tnx! | 11:30 |
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| john24 | how to add space in SilicaListView? | 11:36 |
| john24 | http://i.imgur.com/d1D4EyD.png | 11:36 |
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| Acce | john24: do you mean, between all items? it has a "spacing" property | 11:36 |
| john24 | no just above | 11:37 |
| john24 | eg | 11:37 |
| john24 | header | 11:37 |
| john24 | buttons | 11:37 |
| Acce | put the stuff in your header component | 11:37 |
| john24 | list of items | 11:37 |
| john24 | will it work? | 11:37 |
| Acce | I can't think of a reason why it would not | 11:37 |
| Acce | since any Component can be header | 11:38 |
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| john24 | ohh didn;t know that | 11:38 |
| Acce | well, I'm not sure either, but you can try it quite simply :) | 11:39 |
| Acce | just remember, Component { Item { Header {} OtherItem {} } } | 11:39 |
| Acce | ie, only one child for Component | 11:39 |
| john24 | ahh ok thanks :) | 11:40 |
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| m4g0g | рш | 11:45 |
| m4g0g | hi | 11:45 |
| m4g0g | How I can get info about my ban in #sailfish ? | 11:46 |
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| juke_ | Acce, like you can go back in pagestack by swiping from left side | 11:47 |
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| coderus | m4g0g: ban? | 11:48 |
| tbr | m4g0g: the channel is redirected here | 11:49 |
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| tbr | m4g0g: this is done using a +b | 11:49 |
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| m4g0g | tbr: i understand but i was in sailfihs channel and now i get message about my ban | 11:49 |
| tbr | m4g0g: the channel is closed | 11:49 |
| Acce | juke_: you could use a mouseArea and check the pressed coordinates to determine what direction user moves fingers, if that's what you mean? | 11:50 |
| m4g0g | ou | 11:50 |
| m4g0g | thx | 11:50 |
| tbr | everyone is 'banned' and it is redirected to THIS channel | 11:50 |
| tbr | if you are on this channel already you will get an error message that you are banned from #sailfish | 11:50 |
| Acce | juke_: alternatively, you can use a Flickable (or SilicaFlickable) which has property for that | 11:50 |
| Acce | juke_: https://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-flickable.html#draggingHorizontally-prop | 11:51 |
| juke_ | thanks! | 11:51 |
| Acce | juke_: np, see the other properties too, they might be useful | 11:52 |
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| leszek | hi | 12:00 |
| tbr | lo | 12:01 |
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| juke_ | what should i use for listview height so that i will scale according to its contents height? | 12:05 |
| Acce | juke_: childrenRect.height, maybe | 12:05 |
| Acce | or contentHeight | 12:05 |
| juke_ | ah, thanks | 12:06 |
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| john24 | guys I need help with sql | 12:37 |
| john24 | var rs = tx.executeSql("INSERT OR REPLACE INTO Settings1 VALUES (?,?,?,?,?)", [fixedIP, tfPORT.text, tfUSR.text, tfPASS.text, cmbSync.currentIndex]); | 12:37 |
| john24 | updates all 5 items | 12:37 |
| john24 | how can I only update the 5th and ingore others? | 12:37 |
| Summeli | insert into Settings1 Values(columname_5th), foo | 12:38 |
| Summeli | oops, | 12:38 |
| Summeli | insert into settings1(comlumename), values foo | 12:39 |
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| john24 | thank you, so other 4 will be left alone and it will update the 5th element? | 12:40 |
| Summeli | yeah, just use that columname :P | 12:40 |
| evk | or update settings1 set col5 = something where pk = somethingelse | 12:40 |
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| john24 | thanks guys :) | 12:40 |
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| coderus | anyway, if you dont want to be "just a guy who knows some sql commands" you need to read some sqlite books or at least tutorials | 13:34 |
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| evk | SQL is a great way to make a complete mess | 14:00 |
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| situ | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316 | 15:25 |
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| tbr | systemd-phone2 ;) | 15:27 |
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| situ | and they'll lose to wayland too :P | 15:30 |
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| edips_ | =] | 15:33 |
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| suy | Can the Messages app be extended? I think I've seen it uses telepathy, so, in theory, even IRC could be supported now since there are some telepathy support for it, isn't it? | 16:12 |
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| radiofree | wouldn't irc in the messages app be horrendous? | 16:15 |
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| suy | radiofree: probably only would make sense for private messages. Anyway, I said IRC because there is support for it already on some open source form. I was thinking more in whatsapp/telegram/whatever my friends use right now :) | 16:17 |
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| coderus | suy: https://together.jolla.com/question/1729/compile-and-add-libpurple-to-jolla-repositories/ | 16:30 |
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| euroelessar | coderus: haven't you faced with WhatsApp's DCMA issue? | 16:43 |
| euroelessar | * DMCA | 16:43 |
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| Stskeeps | 10 bucks they went after people stupid enough to use trademarks.. | 16:45 |
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| Sir_herrbatka | hi all | 16:48 |
| Sir_herrbatka | does sailfishos uses vanilla, mainline wayland? | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | almost | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 16:49 |
| suy | coderus: ok, thank you. more or less what i expected | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | Sir_herrbatka: we are 1.1.0 + the two patches in https://github.com/mer-packages/wayland/tree/master/rpm | 16:50 |
| Sir_herrbatka | Stskeeps: interesting, what does this patches do? | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | Sir_herrbatka: solves problems | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | both are thread safety issues | 16:51 |
| Sir_herrbatka | are those KMS related problems? | 16:51 |
| Sir_herrbatka | ah, ok | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | no, we don't use weston or KMS, but wayland is the protocol | 16:52 |
| Sir_herrbatka | does wayland directly or inderictly forces compositor to use KMS drivers? | 16:52 |
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| Sir_herrbatka | i heared that this is the case | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | nop | 16:53 |
| Sir_herrbatka | hmmmm | 16:53 |
| Stskeeps | wayland is a protocol, it abstracts things like gpu buffers | 16:53 |
| Stskeeps | in fact, we're using the android hardware adaptation layer's hardware composer to push wayland buffers to the screen | 16:53 |
| Sir_herrbatka | ok thanks for answer :) | 16:53 |
| Sir_herrbatka | good luck with the sailfish, i hope it will be large success :D | 16:54 |
| Stskeeps | no problem - anything else you'd like to know? | 16:55 |
| Sir_herrbatka | no, i was interested in wayland | 16:55 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 16:55 |
| Stskeeps | http://mer-project.blogspot.com/2013_04_01_archive.html + http://mer-project.blogspot.com/2013_05_01_archive.html | 16:56 |
| Stskeeps | helps explain it a bit | 16:56 |
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| Sir_herrbatka | Stskeeps: funny that you decided to use word "Linux" in the blog title | 16:58 |
| Stskeeps | well, it's not a freebsd distribution.. | 16:59 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:59 |
| Sir_herrbatka | it seems that everybody else (android, ubuntu) wants to run away from being linux | 17:01 |
| Sir_herrbatka | but that's cool, I like it :D | 17:01 |
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| Stskeeps | well, admittedly we don't call sailfishos GNU/SailfishOS-Linux .. ;) | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | out of curiousity, where from in poland? i live in warsaw myself, though not from poland | 17:03 |
| Sir_herrbatka | really? | 17:03 |
| Sir_herrbatka | I'm from eastern border, near belarus | 17:04 |
| Sir_herrbatka | Syberia ;-) | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: it's possible to work remotely in jolla, so | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 17:04 |
| Sir_herrbatka | does jolla have any option to enter China market? | 17:06 |
| Stskeeps | everything is possible given enough time and money, but i'm the wrong person to ask about going to markets :) | 17:06 |
| Stskeeps | more of a sw engineer/researcher | 17:06 |
| Sir_herrbatka | right | 17:06 |
| Sir_herrbatka | sorry for boring questions, it's just that technical stuff are not always enough to succed | 17:07 |
| Superpelican_ | Stskeeps: I'm getting "Permission denied (publickey)." when trying to ssh into the MerSDK build engine (using "ssh -p 2222 -i ~/SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/engine/mersdk mersdk@localhost") | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | Sir_herrbatka: that's for sure | 17:08 |
| Sir_herrbatka | and wrong busines decisons have the potential to cripple even the largest company (nokia *cough*) | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | Sir_herrbatka: you can have the most fantastic gpu rendering pipeline but if your applications are just cardboard, ie, screenshots, nothing else, you're not getting anyway | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | anywhere | 17:08 |
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| Sir_herrbatka | (developers, developers, developers) | 17:09 |
| tbr | PotemkinOS? ;) | 17:09 |
| Sir_herrbatka | ;-) | 17:09 |
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| Yaniel | well iirc jolla already have some sort of distribution deal in china | 17:11 |
| Superpelican_ | Yeah with D.Phone | 17:11 |
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| Sir_herrbatka | Superpelican_: is that large company? | 17:12 |
| Yaniel | so it is just a matter of ironing out bugs and implementing most needed features | 17:12 |
| Sir_herrbatka | yeah and world domination :] | 17:12 |
| Yaniel | that counts as a feature | 17:13 |
| Superpelican_ | Sir_herrbatka: They say it's the largest retail chain of China or something like that | 17:13 |
| Superpelican_ | (but I'm not Chinese, so I don't know what role D.Phone playes in China) | 17:13 |
| Sir_herrbatka | Superpelican_: good enough | 17:13 |
| Sir_herrbatka | starting in the Europe or USA will be quite uphill | 17:14 |
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| Sir_herrbatka | but Chinese liked meegoo and nokia | 17:14 |
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| Superpelican_ | OK fixed the error | 17:27 |
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| Superpelican_ | I had named my SDK directory "SailfishOSsdk" instead of "SailfishOS" | 17:27 |
| Superpelican_ | Stskeeps: Unfortunately I'm now getting "connman not AVAILABLE DBus call failed, falling back to libssu" | 17:29 |
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| Superpelican_ | connman seems to be installed however | 17:30 |
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| xth | Stskeeps: thanks for those articles in blog. Am I right that Android-drivers/libhybris combo is just a start, and once Sailfish conquers the world ;) there's possibility of native drivers for it? | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | xth: sure, but it's going to take a very long time until the tide has changed | 18:13 |
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| Stskeeps | we don't rely on android stuff, it's an abstraction from our point of view - we speak wayland + egl to the OpenGL stack | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | and libhybris turns it into something the android gpu drivers like | 18:14 |
| xth | Stskeeps: thanks. That confused me for a while when I understood how it worked. Yeah, I get it, but I just feel scared of binary blobs in all those drivers, having seen some proprietary driver code from inside out :) | 18:15 |
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| Stskeeps | xth: i know how you feel.. but i also feel it's so immensely worse to have a non-QA'ed driver for let's say, X11 on a embedded device that has never been remotely war tested.. | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | at least with the android drivers you know they've been quite throughoutly tested | 18:23 |
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| xth | Stskeeps: for me the best point is once everything is polished and working, one may use SF on most hw platforms, and that's important to gain popularity needed to force hw manufacturers to stick to native/open drivers. | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 18:35 |
| satmd | :) | 18:36 |
| * satmd waves at sts | 18:37 | |
| Stskeeps | satmd: i did have to verify my logs that i knew a guy named satmd :P | 18:37 |
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| satmd | :( | 18:37 |
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| satmd | and there I thought my $random nick of 2003 still was unique | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | fatherhood has screwed my memories | 18:38 |
| satmd | grats :) | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | thanks, he's a lovely 7 month old now | 18:38 |
| satmd | also 30 secs for checking the logs tells me that you still didn't lose your edge :) | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | you got a jolla phone too? | 18:39 |
| satmd | indeed :o) | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | good :) | 18:39 |
| * satmd blames w00t | 18:39 | |
| satmd | nah, love it | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | it's good to buy a jolla phone, you can factually blame w00t | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:39 |
| satmd | just the mail client not supporting plaintext mode is slightly... weird to me | 18:40 |
| hoelzro | I'm working on a new version of my app, and one of the new features requires a schema change. However, when I try to use db.changeVersion, the logs complain that the " " database can't be opened | 18:40 |
| hoelzro | here's my code: https://gist.github.com/hoelzro/9006519 | 18:40 |
| hoelzro | I was wondering if someone could give me some advice | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | brb putting kid to sleep | 18:41 |
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| satmd | :) | 18:42 |
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| RobertMe | Hi sailors | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | moo | 19:28 |
| RobertMe | I'm looking for a way to open my app from the active covers, but haven't been able to find it anywhere, so hopefully someone here could help me out :) | 19:28 |
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| RobertMe | as I believe in the demos Jolla shows how you could open the dialer from the cover of the phone app, I'm looking for a way to do something alike | 19:30 |
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| hoelzro | RobertMe: see https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-coveraction.html | 19:32 |
| hoelzro | also, I believe the example application on the SailfishOS wiki has cover actions | 19:33 |
| RobertMe | hoelzro: I know how to use cover actions (have already implemented one), but I don't know how to active my app from the cover, which I'm trying to achieve | 19:33 |
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| hoelzro | hmm, I don't think I follow | 19:35 |
| RobertMe | I believe that the default contacts/phone app has a cover action, which as you trigger it, activates/opens the app, and automatically shows the dialer | 19:36 |
| Elleo | RobertMe: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-applicationwindow.html#activate-method <-- I think that's what you're looking for | 19:36 |
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| RobertMe | Elleo: I think you're right :) | 19:37 |
| RobertMe | thanks for the hint | 19:37 |
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| Elleo | no problem :) | 19:38 |
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| Superpelican_ | Is the Sailfish Browser source code ARM(v7) specific? | 20:01 |
| edips_ | 80 | 20:01 |
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| rcg | kimmoli, great thanks for the pointer to the dbus stuff :) | 21:11 |
| rcg | that was the missing link | 21:11 |
| rcg | https://github.com/ruedigergad/SkippingStones/blob/master/dbusofonoadapter.cpp | 21:12 |
| rcg | fwiw, this is how i implemented the according helper class | 21:12 |
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| rcg | alright, fwiw, http://ruedigergad.com/2014/02/15/pebble-protocol-implementation-in-qml-and-skippingstones-ui-for-sailfishos/ | 22:41 |
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