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| ln- | is silicacomponengallery open source? no? should it not be? | 00:09 |
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| rcg | morning all | 08:24 |
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| ln- | is silicacomponentgallery open source? | 08:26 |
| Yaniel | yes? | 08:27 |
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| cos- | i was traveling to stockholm last weekend with my jolla and had some really weird bugs with it. possibly related to disallowing data roaming. | 08:28 |
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| Yaniel | ln-: it would be a bad code example if not | 08:29 |
| cos- | the phone became really slow at times, without no visible reason. for example unlocking by tapping and side swiping became really unreliable | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | cos-: i think we have a fix in the pipeline for that | 08:29 |
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| cos- | also the gallery app didn't show most of the images and became really slow. i just tested it (back home) and it works fine. | 08:30 |
| cos- | ok, great to have the issues fixed. | 08:30 |
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| cos- | i forgot to switch off the phone during last flight (i NEVER do that) and when i noticed it, the phone was so confused i had to remove the battery to reboot | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | cos-: yeah.. sometimes i wish that we rolled out fixes on a weekly basis | 08:32 |
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| cos- | as a user i wouldn't mind (but that might be a testing nightmare) | 08:32 |
| stephg | once things stabilize that's not an unreasonable goal is it Stskeeps? | 08:33 |
| cos- | i think well tested monthly updates is a good way (compared to nokia's twice in a year if you are lucky) | 08:34 |
| ko__ | cos-: what, it didn't work without removing battery? | 08:35 |
| leinir | Stskeeps: very happy to hear about that ui blocking stuff being taken in hand :) it's... terribly inconvenient when showing the device to people ; | 08:35 |
| leinir | ;) | 08:35 |
| cos- | ko__: the phone was really slow and flooding "Something's wrong with connection". i tried to turn it off with power button, but after it shut down it just displayed static red led and didn't react to even power button. | 08:36 |
| ko__ | ah yeah that connection problem flood | 08:37 |
| ko__ | doesn't even have to be because you left it on during a flight, that happens to me otherwise | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | happens to me in metro | 08:37 |
| leinir | it happens to me at home (due to the house being a bit weirdly laid out) | 08:40 |
| cos- | is there any trick to share multiple images to fb? the gallery doesn't (yet) support it | 08:47 |
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| cos- | ps. vote for https://together.jolla.com/question/1474/sharing-multiple-files-at-once-with-bluetoothemailfacebook/ | 08:48 |
| Yaniel | I'd rather first see not sharing files to all known bluetooth devices in range | 08:48 |
| cos- | that sounds evil | 08:50 |
| Yaniel | well I only have one known device | 08:50 |
| Yaniel | but from what I've seen it seems to work that way | 08:50 |
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| lainwir3d | hi | 09:09 |
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| lainwir3d | Is there a way to access the mer virtual machine by ssh ? I want to build a static library for a program. | 09:44 |
| Yaniel | yup | 09:44 |
| Yaniel | see the faq on sailfishos.org? | 09:44 |
| Yaniel | I think it was mentioned there | 09:44 |
| lainwir3d | I read it, must have missed it. I'm going to look again :-) | 09:44 |
| lainwir3d | ewww | 09:45 |
| lainwir3d | found it... | 09:45 |
| lainwir3d | thanks Yaniel ! My bad | 09:45 |
| Yaniel | it involves non-standard ports and keyfiles :P | 09:45 |
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| lainwir3d | works fine ! :) | 09:48 |
| lainwir3d | thanks again | 09:49 |
| juke_ | what's the correct property for Separator alignment? 'Cannot assign to non-existent property "alignment"' | 09:49 |
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| leinir | juke_: alignment? positioning of items inside other items in qt quick? | 09:57 |
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| juke_ | https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-separator.html#alignment-prop | 09:58 |
| juke_ | that one | 09:58 |
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| leinir | hmm... odd idea... that seems to be a bit at odds with Qt Quick's layouting concepts... | 09:59 |
| juke_ | it's just controlling to which direction the separator fades | 10:00 |
| leinir | Oh right | 10:00 |
| leinir | well, ok then ;) | 10:00 |
| Acce | nothing nice coming u with auto complete? | 10:00 |
| Acce | up* | 10:00 |
| Acce | There has been some cases where stuff in the SDK and web reference don't match | 10:01 |
| Yaniel | autocomplete "this stuff literally writes itself" | 10:01 |
| juke_ | ok, so it's actually called horizontalAlignment :D | 10:02 |
| narchie | doge joo | 10:04 |
| Acce | we should probably collect these mistakes somewhere, like a TJC thread.. There is/was a ListModel with ListItems as children somewhere too, while it should be ListElements | 10:04 |
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| juke_ | unreal, even if you uninstall the app, google cookies will still remain in the webview | 10:55 |
| juke_ | my app uses webview to authenticate with google account. if the app is uninstalled, the google session will persist... | 10:57 |
| walokra | how's that unreal | 10:58 |
| Acce | juke_: temporary files are probably stored in .local | 10:58 |
| Acce | so it's not destroyed when uninstalled | 10:58 |
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| juke_ | any way to remove cookies programmatically? | 11:00 |
| juke_ | they are in /home/nemo/.local/harbour-app/.QtWebkit and that is not removed on uninstall for some reason | 11:01 |
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| juke_ | actually only them app is removed on uninstall | 11:02 |
| juke_ | the* | 11:03 |
| juke_ | .config and .local remain untouched | 11:03 |
| Acce | they remain because someone might want to keep them for possible reinstall.. not sure but you might be able to do it in your rpm package | 11:08 |
| juke_ | that's only partial solution that what i would actually like to have: be able to delete cookies at runtime | 11:09 |
| Acce | hmm, maybe you could check how it is done in sailfish-browser | 11:10 |
| Acce | now that it's open sourced | 11:11 |
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| tbr | browser is gecko based | 11:11 |
| Acce | it has some functionality for clearing data, I guess | 11:12 |
| juke_ | does geco based mean that it doesn't use qtwebkit? | 11:12 |
| tbr | correct | 11:13 |
| tbr | there is a qtwebkit based browser though | 11:14 |
| tbr | someone made that | 11:14 |
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| juke_ | settings has some buttons do different stuff on long press, how is it done? | 11:42 |
| juke_ | for example on wlan menu if you long press a network it shows a menu | 11:44 |
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| suy | juke_: You mean ContextMenu? | 12:18 |
| juke_ | i probably mean onPressAndHold event, is that on all buttons? | 12:19 |
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| suy | I'm unsure about that. But I was using that event, and it was giving me headache with the layout I wanted. Then I found ContextMenu, and does it on its own nicely. | 12:21 |
| juke_ | that was it yes. textswitch has it also | 12:21 |
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| juke_ | thanks suy, i never would have found it without contextmenu :D | 12:27 |
| suy | juke_: It took me a bit too. The gallery application and its source are my must have. | 12:28 |
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| khertan | Hello ... | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | o/ khertan | 13:33 |
| khertan | 'lo Stskeeps | 13:33 |
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| khertan | Stskeeps, got an other sudden reboot yesterday, while viewing photos that i ve just take from camera | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | khertan: may be more related to the latter | 13:35 |
| khertan | at reboot got a missing call notification (and the two photos wasn't saved) | 13:35 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:35 |
| Stskeeps | yeah i read your tweet - must suck that photos of your child disappears | 13:35 |
| khertan | yep | 13:35 |
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| khertan | i didn't use it for important photos, but this two was funny :) | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | did it factually erase the photos? | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | or just disappeared from index | 13:36 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, photo aren't in picture/camera folder | 13:37 |
| khertan | so erase at reboot due to corrupted fs / or never saved | 13:37 |
| khertan | not sure what really happen | 13:37 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, did u have found something about sudden reboot many have ? | 13:38 |
| khertan | mine stop to do that (except yesterday) | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | khertan: we have some things in the pipeline but we have to run everything through QA | 13:38 |
| khertan | of course | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | it's funny how even monthly updates feel painful :) | 13:39 |
| khertan | is there a clear guilty bugs ? or a mixed of many glitches | 13:39 |
| khertan | ? | 13:39 |
| Yaniel | oh right, it's soon time for another one | 13:39 |
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| Stskeeps | khertan: bit hazy | 13:40 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, clearly, release often, require more tests ... | 13:40 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, that s works well for small projects, but require huge effort on large/critical projects | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | month cycle is pretty good, maybe we'll improve in future | 13:41 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, depends of size of the testing squad, and devel affected to fixing test results, i ve already working with a such cycle for a financial reporting apps | 13:42 |
| khertan | and as error wasn't permit, product didn't improve as it should | 13:43 |
| khertan | so manager recruited more inexperienced and cheap devel ... and error was made | 13:44 |
| khertan | which cost twice the budget of the team :) | 13:44 |
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| khertan | does QtGraphicalEffects is accepted in Harbour ? | 13:47 |
| khertan | and can i use a FastBlur on a Item qml element ? | 13:48 |
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| * khertan hope february montly release will include python3 with ssl | 13:52 | |
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| ottulo | monthly python | 13:55 |
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| FireFly | heh | 13:57 |
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| andrea_ | How can I add MenuItems in a ContextMenu dynamically? | 14:46 |
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| Skeptic | i want to erase android on my phone and want to install sailfish on it it is possible in any android phone? | 15:00 |
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| BearT1 | andrea_: use a Repeater. you can set the repeaters model from javascript. | 15:04 |
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| Skeptic | hehehe | 15:11 |
| Skeptic | :P | 15:11 |
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| radiofree | so I lost my jolla, am i "the first one™"? | 15:31 |
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| Stskeeps | radiofree: you should probably send a mail to care@jolla.com about that fact | 15:32 |
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| radiofree | Stskeeps: do they have some super-duper-secret "find my jolla" feature? :) | 15:34 |
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| radiofree | i'll just buy another in a month or two, after my period of penance | 15:34 |
| raa79 | ofc, in cooperation with NSA | 15:34 |
| Mnsu | I believe such a feature would be NSA mandated | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | no, but, to make sure the thief or whoever it was, won't have any use :P | 15:34 |
| radiofree | ah, good point Stskeeps, though it wasn't stolen, i'm just an idiot | 15:35 |
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| radiofree | is the username for a jolla account your e-mail address? | 15:39 |
| radiofree | my e-mail address doesn't fit into the username box :\ | 15:39 |
| raa79 | nope | 15:39 |
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| kimmoli | is it | 16:27 |
| kimmoli | is it normal to have "Access Error: 404 -- Not Found" in QtCreator SailfishOs -page ? | 16:27 |
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| juke_ | kimmoli, start the sdk from the bottom of left side tab | 17:13 |
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| juke_ | i think it's second lowest button | 17:13 |
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| m4g0g | hello | 17:21 |
| m4g0g | How do you cache some info in applications via qml? Or it is impossible and all use c++ for this? | 17:22 |
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| Marckvdv | 0. | 17:32 |
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| m4g0g | any ideas? | 17:48 |
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| walokra | I keep my app fresh, so no caches :) | 17:53 |
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| m4g0g | walokra: I think that it is not good for my app | 18:06 |
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| kurosch | hey | 18:13 |
| kurosch | anyone got a clue about this "[W] unknown:37 - file:///opt/sdk/MensaBerlin/usr/share/MensaBerlin/qml/MensaBerlin.qml:37:18: Type MainPage unavailable" | 18:13 |
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| kurosch | hey | 18:26 |
| kurosch | something weird is happening I am getting errors about XmlListModel not being installed but I just reinstalled them.. | 18:27 |
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| kurosch | modelqt5-qtdeclarative-import-xmllistmodel is what I have installed | 18:28 |
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| kurosch | hey can someone help me with an issue about import QtQuick.XmlListModel 2.0 ? | 18:34 |
| kurosch | It somehow states that it is not installed though it should be | 18:34 |
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| suy | Deploying to the device wireless is awesome. | 19:12 |
| suy | Now I just need to install avahi so I don't have to change the wifi IP ever. :-P | 19:13 |
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| m4g0g | is is possible to add combobox to header? | 20:00 |
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| coderus | m4g0g: you can't expand header | 20:03 |
| coderus | it have fixed height | 20:03 |
| m4g0g | sad | 20:04 |
| Turski | it can't be overridden? O_o | 20:07 |
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| coderus | sure it can | 20:19 |
| coderus | everything can be overrided | 20:19 |
| coderus | but who want to use this ugly look components? | 20:19 |
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| m4g0g | is there an analog of QMap/QHash in qml? I want to store items without duplicates | 20:26 |
| evilJazz | Hi | 20:27 |
| evilJazz | nope, no analog. Did you try a plain JS object? | 20:28 |
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| evilJazz | coderus, I am working on packaging the desktop linux version of QuasarMX. What distro are you using? | 20:31 |
| m4g0g | evilJazz: in this case how i can detect that object exists already without navigating? | 20:32 |
| RobertMe | m4g0g: you mean checking if the object has a specific property? | 20:37 |
| evilJazz | Depends on what you are trying to achieve. Where hashObject is your JavaScript "hash" object and objectID is your objects hash ID as string: if (hashObject.hasOwnProperty(objectID)) doSomething(); | 20:37 |
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| RobertMe | you could read it and check if it has a value (which could be as simple as "if (object.property)"), and you could probably check if the object has the property, object.hasOwnProperty("property"), but I don't know if the last one also works in qml | 20:38 |
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| evilJazz | :) | 20:38 |
| m4g0g | RobertMe: I need checking that in collection already exist object with specified id. In case using object i should do for (key in object) | 20:38 |
| m4g0g | evilJazz: hm. I will try | 20:39 |
| coderus | evilJazz: kubuntu | 20:40 |
| coderus | m4g0g: why not to export QMap to qml? | 20:41 |
| evilJazz | m4g0g, the more involving way would be to create a new class that wraps a QHash/QMap in a QObject and then register the type with the declarative engine and instantiate it somewhere in you QML file. | 20:41 |
| evilJazz | hehe | 20:42 |
| coderus | depends on how many map items you need to have at once it can be solved in many ways | 20:42 |
| evilJazz | same idea as coderus | 20:42 |
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| m4g0g | i don't want c++ in this project as possible | 20:48 |
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| coderus | more peoples want to use low cost and low powerful programming | 20:59 |
| coderus | and i have no idea why | 20:59 |
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| walokra | is there a method to manually paging listmodel? (like with slice on javascript)? | 21:01 |
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| Acce | walokra: not quite sure what you mean by that.. what do you mean by "paging listmodel"? | 21:07 |
| coderus | walokra: ywah, wtf? | 21:07 |
| Acce | coderus: they want to create quality applications in fast time, without learning how to do it, that is the reason | 21:07 |
| coderus | Acce: thats not programming | 21:08 |
| coderus | its just *coding* | 21:08 |
| * coderus dislikes coding | 21:08 | |
| walokra | Acce: hundred rows in listmodel and would like to draw just 20 rows at time to screen | 21:08 |
| coderus | walokra: use SilicaListView | 21:09 |
| coderus | it have delagates cache properies | 21:09 |
| coderus | and dlegates loading dynamically on demand :) | 21:09 |
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| walokra | the data is in silicalistview but | 21:10 |
| coderus | but? | 21:10 |
| walokra | if there's hundreds of items it's slow. have to check the cache properties | 21:11 |
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| Turski | walokra: listview creates delegates when they are shown | 21:11 |
| walokra | would like to load just partial set of data and more if user requests it | 21:11 |
| coderus | 1. use as light as possible delegates | 21:12 |
| coderus | 2. use Loader for delegate | 21:12 |
| coderus | 3. possibly set asynchronous property to true in Loader | 21:12 |
| coderus | 4. increase listview cacheBuffer | 21:12 |
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| walokra | yeah, that's what I have read | 21:12 |
| coderus | thats from my own experience :) | 21:13 |
| coderus | Loader is the most useful part | 21:13 |
| walokra | Acce: the jump from <insert language here> to c++ is big so using qml+javascript gets you started | 21:13 |
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| coderus | walokra: issue in slow scrolling or slow loading model? | 21:13 |
| coderus | fir me QML is just UI helper | 21:14 |
| walokra | slow loading model | 21:14 |
| coderus | walokra: do operations asynchronous | 21:14 |
| coderus | onPageLoaded: { helper.loadModel } | 21:15 |
| coderus | helper.onModelLoaded: { listView.model = loadedModel } | 21:15 |
| coderus | kust prototype :) | 21:15 |
| coderus | just * | 21:15 |
| walokra | loader with async gives hilarioous graphic effects when the model loads :) | 21:16 |
| walokra | puuh, my irc lags nicely | 21:16 |
| coderus | walokra: never experienced issues with Loader | 21:16 |
| Acce | walokra: hmm? what effects? | 21:16 |
| coderus | maybe issue with your delegate | 21:16 |
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| coderus | first manage to work with light delegate just single row with no effects | 21:16 |
| walokra | the ui model is drawn bottom up and you can see it "growing" | 21:17 |
| coderus | well, if your delegate is too complex you can see how visiblw items loading one-by-one :D | 21:17 |
| coderus | yes | 21:17 |
| coderus | this is your delegate issue | 21:17 |
| coderus | its too complex | 21:18 |
| Acce | walokra: then make them all visible: false until all have been loaded? | 21:18 |
| coderus | Acce: its Loader feature | 21:18 |
| coderus | when you set it to visible same effect will happen | 21:18 |
| Acce | ah, the Loader creates it when set to visible? | 21:18 |
| coderus | model loading okay in this case | 21:18 |
| coderus | yes of course | 21:19 |
| walokra | yeah, it's comments model with child comments so it's complex | 21:19 |
| coderus | Loaded loading delegates one-by-one in async mode | 21:19 |
| coderus | walokra: reimplement model structure | 21:19 |
| coderus | and possible use data tree | 21:20 |
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| walokra | have to experiment with these tips | 21:20 |
| coderus | coments model can't be so complex in most of cases | 21:21 |
| m4g0g | is it possible in qml print Object? | 21:25 |
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| m4g0g | guys | 21:48 |
| m4g0g | I need help | 21:48 |
| m4g0g | I have 2 functions: | 21:48 |
| m4g0g | http://bpaste.net/show/qlBdxUlTAo1Vo2vAGGzF/ | 21:48 |
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| m4g0g | in addItem function all fine but in getItems function on itemObject only keys without values: | 21:49 |
| m4g0g | http://bpaste.net/show/KBvSK0gyRLo8jSLWzLev/ | 21:49 |
| m4g0g | in what does the problem may be? | 21:49 |
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| coderus | m4g0g: 1. console.log(JSON.stringify(object)) | 21:57 |
| m4g0g | coderus: console.log(JSON.stringify (itemsObject, null, 4)) - this is much better | 21:58 |
| m4g0g | http://bpaste.net/show/h03pNCzIRs9tHnCZPT5V/ | 21:59 |
| m4g0g | this code sample fix my last problem. Is it normal& | 21:59 |
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| coderus | just var data = item not working? | 22:01 |
| m4g0g | no | 22:02 |
| m4g0g | only this way | 22:02 |
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| coderus | i mean var data = item | 22:03 |
| coderus | itemsObject[item.uid] = data | 22:03 |
| m4g0g | coderus: this doesn't work | 22:04 |
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| m4g0g | only via new Object and loop with keys | 22:05 |
| coderus | thats weird | 22:07 |
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| coderus | never experienced similar problems woth c++ | 22:07 |
| coderus | but who cares :D | 22:07 |
| m4g0g | lol yes | 22:08 |
| m4g0g | c++ its c++. Not dynamic typed qml | 22:08 |
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| * artemma is drawing build-packaging diagrams for Tampere Sailfish coding session. Damned, I didn't realize it is THAT complex. How do novices go through it, really? | 23:59 | |
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