Monday, 2014-02-17

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ln-is silicacomponengallery open source? no? should it not be?00:09
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rcgmorning all08:24
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ln-is silicacomponentgallery open source?08:26
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cos-i was traveling to stockholm last weekend with my jolla and had some really weird bugs with it. possibly related to disallowing data roaming.08:28
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Yanielln-: it would be a bad code example if not08:29
cos-the phone became really slow at times, without no visible reason. for example unlocking by tapping and side swiping became really unreliable08:29
Stskeepscos-: i think we have a fix in the pipeline for that08:29
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cos-also the gallery app didn't show most of the images and became really slow. i just tested it (back home) and it works fine.08:30
cos-ok, great to have the issues fixed.08:30
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cos-i forgot to switch off the phone during last flight (i NEVER do that) and when i noticed it, the phone was so confused i had to remove the battery to reboot08:31
Stskeepscos-: yeah.. sometimes i wish that we rolled out fixes on a weekly basis08:32
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cos-as a user i wouldn't mind (but that might be a testing nightmare)08:32
stephgonce things stabilize that's not an unreasonable goal is it Stskeeps?08:33
cos-i think well tested monthly updates is a good way (compared to nokia's twice in a year if you are lucky)08:34
ko__cos-: what, it didn't work without removing battery?08:35
leinirStskeeps: very happy to hear about that ui blocking stuff being taken in hand :) it's... terribly inconvenient when showing the device to people ;08:35
cos-ko__: the phone was really slow and flooding "Something's wrong with connection". i tried to turn it off with power button, but after it shut down it just displayed static red led and didn't react to even power button.08:36
ko__ah yeah that connection problem flood08:37
ko__doesn't even have to be because you left it on during a flight, that happens to me otherwise08:37
Stskeepshappens to me in metro08:37
leinirit happens to me at home (due to the house being a bit weirdly laid out)08:40
cos-is there any trick to share multiple images to fb? the gallery doesn't (yet) support it08:47
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cos-ps. vote for
YanielI'd rather first see not sharing files to all known bluetooth devices in range08:48
cos-that sounds evil08:50
Yanielwell I only have one known device08:50
Yanielbut from what I've seen it seems to work that way08:50
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lainwir3dIs there a way to access the mer virtual machine by ssh ? I want to build a static library for a program.09:44
Yanielsee the faq on
YanielI think it was mentioned there09:44
lainwir3dI read it, must have missed it. I'm going to look again :-)09:44
lainwir3dfound it...09:45
lainwir3dthanks Yaniel ! My bad09:45
Yanielit involves non-standard ports and keyfiles :P09:45
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lainwir3dworks fine ! :)09:48
lainwir3dthanks again09:49
juke_what's the correct property for Separator alignment? 'Cannot assign to non-existent property "alignment"'09:49
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leinirjuke_: alignment? positioning of items inside other items in qt quick?09:57
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juke_that one09:58
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leinirhmm... odd idea... that seems to be a bit at odds with Qt Quick's layouting concepts...09:59
juke_it's just controlling to which direction the separator fades10:00
leinirOh right10:00
leinirwell, ok then ;)10:00
Accenothing nice coming u with auto complete?10:00
AcceThere has been some cases where stuff in the SDK and web reference don't match10:01
Yanielautocomplete "this stuff literally writes itself"10:01
juke_ok, so it's actually called horizontalAlignment :D10:02
narchiedoge joo10:04
Accewe should probably collect these mistakes somewhere, like a TJC thread.. There is/was a ListModel with ListItems as children somewhere too, while it should be ListElements10:04
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juke_unreal, even if you uninstall the app, google cookies will still remain in the webview10:55
juke_my app uses webview to authenticate with google account. if the app is uninstalled, the google session will persist...10:57
walokrahow's that unreal10:58
Accejuke_: temporary files are probably stored in .local10:58
Acceso it's not destroyed when uninstalled10:58
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juke_any way to remove cookies programmatically?11:00
juke_they are in /home/nemo/.local/harbour-app/.QtWebkit and that is not removed on uninstall for some reason11:01
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juke_actually only them app is removed on uninstall11:02
juke_.config and .local remain untouched11:03
Accethey remain because someone might want to keep them for possible reinstall.. not sure but you might be able to do it in your rpm package11:08
juke_that's only partial solution that what i would actually like to have: be able to delete cookies at runtime11:09
Accehmm, maybe you could check how it is done in sailfish-browser11:10
Accenow that it's open sourced11:11
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tbrbrowser is gecko based11:11
Acceit has some functionality for clearing data, I guess11:12
juke_does geco based mean that it doesn't use qtwebkit?11:12
tbrthere is a qtwebkit based browser though11:14
tbrsomeone made that11:14
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juke_settings has some buttons do different stuff on long press, how is it done?11:42
juke_for example on wlan menu if you long press a network it shows a menu11:44
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suyjuke_: You mean ContextMenu?12:18
juke_i probably mean onPressAndHold event, is that on all buttons?12:19
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suyI'm unsure about that. But I was using that event, and it was giving me headache with the layout I wanted. Then I found ContextMenu, and does it on its own nicely.12:21
juke_that was it yes. textswitch has it also12:21
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juke_thanks suy, i never would have found it without contextmenu :D12:27
suyjuke_: It took me a bit too. The gallery application and its source are my must have.12:28
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khertanHello ...13:33
Stskeepso/ khertan13:33
khertan'lo Stskeeps13:33
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khertanStskeeps, got an other sudden reboot yesterday, while viewing photos that i ve just take from camera13:34
Stskeepskhertan: may be more related to the latter13:35
khertanat reboot got a missing call notification (and the two photos wasn't saved)13:35
Stskeepsyeah i read your tweet - must suck that photos of your child disappears13:35
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khertani didn't use it for important photos, but this two was funny :)13:36
Stskeepsdid it factually erase the photos?13:36
Stskeepsor just disappeared from index13:36
khertanStskeeps, photo aren't in picture/camera folder13:37
khertanso erase at reboot due to corrupted fs / or never saved13:37
khertannot sure what really happen13:37
khertanStskeeps, did u have found something about sudden reboot many have ?13:38
khertanmine stop to do that (except yesterday)13:38
Stskeepskhertan: we have some things in the pipeline but we have to run everything through QA13:38
khertanof course13:39
Stskeepsit's funny how even monthly updates feel painful :)13:39
khertanis there a clear guilty bugs ? or a mixed of many glitches13:39
Yanieloh right, it's soon time for another one13:39
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Stskeepskhertan: bit hazy13:40
khertanStskeeps, clearly, release often, require more tests ...13:40
khertanStskeeps, that s works well for small projects, but require huge effort on large/critical projects13:40
Stskeepsmonth cycle is pretty good, maybe we'll improve in future13:41
khertanStskeeps, depends of size of the testing squad, and devel affected to fixing test results, i ve already working with a such cycle for a financial reporting apps13:42
khertanand as error wasn't permit, product didn't improve as it should13:43
khertanso manager recruited more inexperienced and cheap devel ... and error was made13:44
khertanwhich cost twice the budget of the team :)13:44
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khertandoes QtGraphicalEffects is accepted in Harbour ?13:47
khertanand can i use a FastBlur on a Item qml element ?13:48
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* khertan hope february montly release will include python3 with ssl13:52
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ottulomonthly python13:55
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cos-khertan: it was not allowed last time i tried14:05
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khertancos-, thx14:09
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andrea_How can I add MenuItems in a ContextMenu dynamically?14:46
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Skeptici want to erase android on my phone and want to install sailfish on it it is possible in any android phone?15:00
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BearT1andrea_: use a Repeater. you can set the repeaters model from javascript.15:04
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mikmaskeptic: soon(tm)15:06
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Skepticmikma: when :) ?15:07
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mikmaskeptic: soon(tm)15:08
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radiofreeso I lost my jolla, am i "the first oneā„¢"?15:31
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Stskeepsradiofree: you should probably send a mail to about that fact15:32
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radiofreeStskeeps: do they have some super-duper-secret "find my jolla" feature? :)15:34
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radiofreei'll just buy another in a month or two, after my period of penance15:34
raa79ofc, in cooperation with NSA15:34
MnsuI believe such a feature would be NSA mandated15:34
Stskeepsno, but, to make sure the thief or whoever it was, won't have any use :P15:34
radiofreeah, good point Stskeeps, though it wasn't stolen, i'm just an idiot15:35
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radiofreeis the username for a jolla account your e-mail address?15:39
radiofreemy e-mail address doesn't fit into the username box :\15:39
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kimmoliis it16:27
kimmoliis it normal to have "Access Error: 404 -- Not Found" in QtCreator SailfishOs -page ?16:27
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juke_kimmoli, start the sdk from the bottom of left side tab17:13
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juke_i think it's second lowest button17:13
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m4g0gHow do you cache some info in applications via qml? Or it is impossible and all use c++ for this?17:22
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m4g0gany ideas?17:48
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walokraI keep my app fresh, so no caches :)17:53
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m4g0gwalokra: I think that it is not good for my app18:06
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kuroschanyone got a clue about this "[W] unknown:37 - file:///opt/sdk/MensaBerlin/usr/share/MensaBerlin/qml/MensaBerlin.qml:37:18: Type MainPage unavailable"18:13
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kuroschsomething weird is happening I am getting errors about XmlListModel not being installed but I just reinstalled them..18:27
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kuroschmodelqt5-qtdeclarative-import-xmllistmodel is what I have installed18:28
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kuroschhey can someone help me with an issue about import QtQuick.XmlListModel 2.0 ?18:34
kuroschIt somehow states that it is not installed though it should be18:34
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suyDeploying to the device wireless is awesome.19:12
suyNow I just need to install avahi so I don't have to change the wifi IP ever. :-P19:13
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m4g0gis is possible to add combobox to header?20:00
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coderusm4g0g: you can't expand header20:03
coderusit have fixed height20:03
Turskiit can't be overridden? O_o20:07
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coderussure it can20:19
coderuseverything can be overrided20:19
coderusbut who want to use this ugly look components?20:19
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m4g0gis there an analog of QMap/QHash in qml? I want to store items without duplicates20:26
evilJazznope, no analog. Did you try a plain JS object?20:28
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evilJazzcoderus, I am working on packaging the desktop linux version of QuasarMX. What distro are you using?20:31
m4g0gevilJazz: in this case how i can detect that object exists already without navigating?20:32
RobertMem4g0g: you mean checking if the object has a specific property?20:37
evilJazzDepends on what you are trying to achieve. Where hashObject is your JavaScript "hash" object and objectID is your objects hash ID as string: if (hashObject.hasOwnProperty(objectID)) doSomething();20:37
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RobertMeyou could read it and check if it has a value (which could be as simple as "if ("), and you could probably check if the object has the property, object.hasOwnProperty("property"), but I don't know if the last one also works in qml20:38
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m4g0gRobertMe: I need checking that in collection already exist object with specified id. In case using object i should do for (key in object)20:38
m4g0gevilJazz: hm. I will try20:39
coderusevilJazz: kubuntu20:40
coderusm4g0g: why not to export QMap to qml?20:41
evilJazzm4g0g, the more involving way would be to create a new class that wraps a QHash/QMap in a QObject and then register the type with the declarative engine and instantiate it somewhere in you QML file.20:41
coderusdepends on how many map items you need to have at once it can be solved in many ways20:42
evilJazzsame idea as coderus20:42
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m4g0gi don't want c++ in this project as possible20:48
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coderusmore peoples want to use low cost and low powerful programming20:59
coderusand i have no idea why20:59
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walokrais there a method to manually paging listmodel? (like with slice on javascript)?21:01
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Accewalokra: not quite sure what you mean by that.. what do you mean by "paging listmodel"?21:07
coderuswalokra: ywah, wtf?21:07
Accecoderus: they want to create quality applications in fast time, without learning how to do it, that is the reason21:07
coderusAcce: thats not programming21:08
coderusits just *coding*21:08
* coderus dislikes coding21:08
walokraAcce: hundred rows in listmodel and would like to draw just 20 rows at time to screen21:08
coderuswalokra: use SilicaListView21:09
coderusit have delagates cache properies21:09
coderusand dlegates loading dynamically on demand :)21:09
* coderus ask to sory his fingers :D21:10
walokrathe data is in silicalistview but21:10
walokraif there's hundreds of items it's slow. have to check the cache properties21:11
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Turskiwalokra: listview creates delegates when they are shown21:11
walokrawould like to load just partial set of data and more if user requests it21:11
coderus1. use as light as possible delegates21:12
coderus2. use Loader for delegate21:12
coderus3. possibly set asynchronous property to true in Loader21:12
coderus4. increase listview cacheBuffer21:12
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walokrayeah, that's what I have read21:12
coderusthats from my own experience :)21:13
coderusLoader is the most useful part21:13
walokraAcce: the jump from <insert language here> to c++ is big so using qml+javascript gets you started21:13
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coderuswalokra: issue in slow scrolling or slow loading model?21:13
coderusfir me QML is just UI helper21:14
walokraslow loading model21:14
coderuswalokra: do operations asynchronous21:14
coderusonPageLoaded: { helper.loadModel }21:15
coderushelper.onModelLoaded: { listView.model = loadedModel }21:15
coderuskust prototype :)21:15
coderusjust *21:15
walokraloader with async gives hilarioous graphic effects when the model loads :)21:16
walokrapuuh, my irc lags nicely21:16
coderuswalokra: never experienced issues with Loader21:16
Accewalokra: hmm? what effects?21:16
coderusmaybe issue with your delegate21:16
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coderusfirst manage to work with light delegate just single row with no effects21:16
walokrathe ui model is drawn bottom up and you can see it "growing"21:17
coderuswell, if your delegate is too complex you can see how visiblw items loading one-by-one :D21:17
coderusthis is your delegate issue21:17
coderusits too complex21:18
Accewalokra: then make them all visible: false until all have been loaded?21:18
coderusAcce: its Loader feature21:18
coderuswhen you set it to visible same effect will happen21:18
Acceah, the Loader creates it when set to visible?21:18
coderusmodel loading okay in this case21:18
coderusyes of course21:19
walokrayeah, it's comments model with child comments so it's complex21:19
coderusLoaded loading delegates one-by-one in async mode21:19
coderuswalokra: reimplement model structure21:19
coderusand possible use data tree21:20
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walokrahave to experiment with these tips21:20
coderuscoments model can't be so complex in most of cases21:21
m4g0gis it possible in qml print Object?21:25
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m4g0gI need help21:48
m4g0gI have 2 functions:21:48
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m4g0gin addItem function all fine but in getItems function on itemObject only keys without values:21:49
m4g0gin what does the problem may be?21:49
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coderusm4g0g: 1. console.log(JSON.stringify(object))21:57
m4g0gcoderus:     console.log(JSON.stringify (itemsObject, null, 4)) - this is much better21:58
m4g0gthis code sample fix my last problem. Is it normal&21:59
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coderusjust var data = item not working?22:01
m4g0gonly this way22:02
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coderusi mean var data = item22:03
coderusitemsObject[item.uid] = data22:03
m4g0gcoderus: this doesn't work22:04
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m4g0gonly via new Object and loop with keys22:05
coderusthats weird22:07
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coderusnever experienced similar problems woth c++22:07
coderusbut who cares :D22:07
m4g0glol yes22:08
m4g0gc++ its c++. Not dynamic typed qml22:08
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* artemma is drawing build-packaging diagrams for Tampere Sailfish coding session. Damned, I didn't realize it is THAT complex. How do novices go through it, really?23:59

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