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| taixzo | anyone here know anything about pyotherside? | 03:16 |
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| taixzo | one of the lines in my python code is causing a segfault, although it works just fine in the interpreter | 03:22 |
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| tbr | taixzo: that would be something for thp I guess. Do you have some code that you could paste that does this reproducibly? | 04:06 |
| taixzo | tbr: sure. urllib.request.urlopen("http://google.com") | 04:08 |
| taixzo | also, subprocess.Popen(["curl", "-XGET", "http://google.com"], stdout=subprocess.PIPE).communicate() also segfaults | 04:10 |
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| taixzo | computer died, did I miss anything? | 04:16 |
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| taixzo | ok, after further testing, it appears that code running under PyOtherSide makes a distinction between bytes.decode("utf-8") and bytes.decode("UTF-8") - the first one segfaults, while they both work fine in the interpreter. | 04:37 |
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| taixzo | but - subprocess.Popen(["ls"], stdout=subprocess.PIPE).communicate() works, while subprocess.Popen(["curl"], stdout=subprocess.PIPE).communicate() breaks. | 04:43 |
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| taixzo | wtf, it doesn't even segfault 100% of the time - more like 70%. So quite possibly all the things I thought were safe aren't either. | 04:55 |
| taixzo | why does NOBODY ELSE IN THE ENTIRE INTERNET have this problem!!??? | 04:56 |
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| flux | taixzo, so it's not python.. it's you :-( | 06:48 |
| taixzo | flux: then what am I doing wrong!? | 06:49 |
| flux | taixzo, python detects the person giving instructions and refuses to work correctly? | 06:49 |
| flux | taixzo, btw, have you tried producing a core dump and getting a backtrace with gdb? | 06:49 |
| flux | I think there are many debug symbols available.. | 06:49 |
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| taixzo | flux: this is what gdb says: http://pastebin.com/X3nrY4re | 06:55 |
| taixzo | it seems to be an error in QT? | 06:55 |
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| thp | taixzo: sounds like you're hitting that bug where you're using an old version of pyotherside | 06:56 |
| thp | taixzo: are you running SFOS 1.0.4.x or newer? | 06:56 |
| thp | taixzo: also, what is the output of rpm -qa | grep pyotherside ? | 06:56 |
| taixzo | thp: I have whatever version of SFOS came in the emulator, let me check | 06:57 |
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| thp | taixzo: oh yeah, emulator probably has old packages. | 06:57 |
| taixzo | thp: pyotherside-qml-plugin-python3-qt5-1.0.0-1.17.1.i486 | 06:58 |
| taixzo | how can I update? I don't have a Jolla, just the emulator and my N9 | 06:58 |
| thp | taixzo: http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/thp:/gpodder/latest_i486/i486/libpython3_4m1_0-3.4.0-1.8.1.i486.rpm http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/thp:/gpodder/latest_i486/i486/pyotherside-qml-plugin-python3-qt5-1.2.0-1.5.4.i486.rpm http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/thp:/gpodder/latest_i486/i486/python3-base-3.4.0-1.8.1.i486.rpm | 06:59 |
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| thp | taixzo: if you install those three packages in the emulator, it should be a bit better, can you try? | 06:59 |
| thp | taixzo: ssh into the emulator, then download the files (e.g. curl), then pkcon install-local of the rpm files should work | 06:59 |
| taixzo | one minute | 07:01 |
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| taixzo | hasn't segfaulted yet, that 's a good sign! | 07:01 |
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| thp | :) yeah, it was some threading bug in the very first release of pyotherside (v8 isn't thread safe, and the reference-counting crashed if the QJSValue was passed over by value, and destroyed in the other thread), you shouldn't experience any crashers in the current version | 07:04 |
| taixzo | Thank you! http://i.imgur.com/SewJovL.png | 07:06 |
| cvp | taixzo: cool, what is the name of the app ? :) | 07:08 |
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| taixzo | cvp: it's called Saera. http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84753 | 07:09 |
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| cvp | taixzo: ah ok, look grate on sailfish :) | 07:11 |
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| taixzo | cvp: thanks! | 07:11 |
| taixzo | btw, anyone know how I can set alarms on sailfish from a script? | 07:12 |
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| flux | taixzo, seems pretty nifty! | 07:12 |
| flux | taixzo, I don't know, but I needed to find out, I would probably use dbus-monitor and then set an alarm :-) | 07:13 |
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| flux | unless there is some Qt api for doing this.. | 07:13 |
| taixzo | hmm, the emulator doesn't have the clock app installed - is there a way I can install that, or do I have to do that on device? | 07:14 |
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| spiiroin | taixzo: there is timed debugging tool that can be used - something like: timedclient-qt5 -b'TITLE=button0' -e'APPLICATION=nemoalarms;TITLE=Hello;ticker=5' | 07:44 |
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| taixzo | spiiroin: I can't find a timedclient-qt5, either in the FS or the repos; there is a timed-qt5, but that bails out complaining CRITICAL: can't register service 'com.nokia.time' on bus 'qt_default_system_bus': '' | 07:49 |
| spiiroin | taixzo: as timedclient is debug/test tool, it is not installed by default. comes from timed-qt5-tools package | 07:51 |
| spiiroin | and timed is started via: systemctl --user timed-qt5.service | 07:52 |
| spiiroin | at least on the device, not sure about emulator | 07:53 |
| spiiroin | PMG ^ | 07:53 |
| taixzo | PMG? | 07:53 |
| PMG | taixzo: this is happening in emulator? | 07:54 |
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| taixzo | PMG: yes | 07:54 |
| taixzo | also, starting timed doesnt work, says Unknown operation 'timed-qt5.service'. | 07:55 |
| PMG | taixzo: Hmm, what does "rpm -q timed-qt5" say? | 07:55 |
| flux | the command was missing something | 07:55 |
| flux | --start | 07:55 |
| flux | or start | 07:55 |
| flux | don't recall :) | 07:55 |
| spiiroin | are you root or nemo user? | 07:55 |
| taixzo | nemo | 07:55 |
| spiiroin | yes. start missing ;-) | 07:56 |
| taixzo | PMG: timed-qt5-2.84-1.10.1.i486 | 07:56 |
| spiiroin | systemctl --user start timed-qt5.service | 07:56 |
| taixzo | ah, that worked! | 07:56 |
| taixzo | or at least it didn't have any errors. | 07:56 |
| flux | systemctl status timed-qt5.service will tell how it's doing | 07:57 |
| PMG | And pgrep timed-qt5 shows the pid if timed is running | 07:57 |
| taixzo | hmm. [nemo@SailfishEmul ~]$ systemctl status timed-qt5.service timed-qt5.service Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory) Active: inactive (dead) | 07:58 |
| flux | oh, it requires --user as well | 07:58 |
| taixzo | aha! It's running then! | 07:58 |
| taixzo | spiiroin: what is that example supposed to do? It says "event added, cookie is 2" and that's all it seems to do. | 07:59 |
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| coderus | Gallery share/transfer plugin finally working. thanks to zchydem_! https://github.com/zchydem/transfer-engine/commit/7f2dd8803eaedd3140aff60cb15a003eedc07b66 | 08:06 |
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| spiiroin | taixzo: it adds alarm to a queue maintained by timed; if you have all the necessary dependencies installed, a clock alarm lookalike should pop up in 5 secs | 08:08 |
| spiiroin | clock alarms might require clock ui before they show up | 08:09 |
| taixzo | yeah, they must require something, nothing is showing up | 08:09 |
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| PMG | taixzo, spiiroin: jolla-alarm-ui is the package responsible for showing calendar/clock alarms | 08:10 |
| cvp | coderus: is this meaning that we can send files from galary to mitäkuuluu or other apps ? | 08:11 |
| spiiroin | taixzo: and keep in mind that timedclient is test/debugging tool, i.e. no guarantees that it or even the APIs it is using are working in the future | 08:12 |
| taixzo | PMG: is there a x86 version of that package somewhere? It's not in the sdk repos. | 08:12 |
| taixzo | spiiroin: right. | 08:12 |
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| coderus | cvp: sure. as soon as you create share plugin for each application :) | 08:21 |
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| cvp | thats really cool :) | 08:22 |
| cvp | @coderus | 08:22 |
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| jake9xx | cvp: coderus the basica fw supports that already providing you have the account provider giving you that property | 08:55 |
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| jake9xx | s/basica/basic | 08:55 |
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| coderus | jake9xx: i cant understand what you mean | 09:19 |
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| Sage- | tbr: where was that oss dump of yours about sailfish. Asking as I want to check what thing we don't have in the open git trees of that yet. I though we have most of that in the open already. | 09:20 |
| Sage- | sry, lazy to search irc logs :) | 09:20 |
| tbr | Sage-: it's on images.formeego.org | 09:21 |
| tbr | you can nicely grep the _service files for git urls | 09:21 |
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| tbr | Sage-: http://images.formeego.org/jolla/sources/ | 09:22 |
| Sage- | thx | 09:22 |
| Sage- | wow, that server has some bandwidth :) | 09:22 |
| Sage- | 11.0MB/s :P | 09:23 |
| tbr | nah, sux, only 100MBit as one media converter is not Gbit | 09:23 |
| Sage- | well, maxed out my line for a moment there :) | 09:23 |
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| jake9xx | coderus: ok, let's assume you make a account plugin for 'mitakuuluu'. There you define it's properties and declare for example you have the share property | 09:25 |
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| coderus | jake9xx: no | 09:25 |
| coderus | i'm not making account plugin | 09:25 |
| jake9xx | now if you open jolla gallery and look for share targets, our SailfishOS sees your provider as valid share target as well | 09:26 |
| coderus | i making share plugin | 09:26 |
| coderus | without account | 09:26 |
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| jake9xx | ok, good luck :) | 09:26 |
| coderus | and just calling my operations via dbus | 09:26 |
| coderus | its easy :) | 09:26 |
| coderus | controlling transfer progress/status is a bit of pita, but doable | 09:27 |
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| TemeV | coderus, Do you have plans on integrating mitäkuuluu to Jolla's messaging app? | 09:46 |
| TemeV | or is it even doable yet? | 09:46 |
| cvp | but what jake9xx write sounds very good and konfortable.... but i dont know how many time it will take from you if you do this way :) | 09:48 |
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| cvp | @coderus | 09:48 |
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| coderus | TemeV: no | 09:49 |
| coderus | its another project, not mitakuuluu | 09:50 |
| cvp | ;) | 09:50 |
| cvp | kk | 09:50 |
| TemeV | coderus, ok | 09:50 |
| TemeV | It would be nice to use whatsapp from the messagin app, I hate having different apps open for different messaging systems | 09:51 |
| coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu/issues/38 and https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu/issues/144 | 09:51 |
| coderus | btw, does sailfish support multi users chats? | 09:52 |
| coderus | anybody tried it with default xmpp | 09:52 |
| coderus | ? | 09:52 |
| cvp | xmpp not support muc :( i ask many times | 09:52 |
| coderus | then integration whatsapp in jolla accounts and messaging is a bad idea :) | 09:53 |
| tanty | cvp: xmpp doesn't support muc ? | 09:55 |
| chem|st | tanty: jolla does not support muc | 09:56 |
| tanty | ah, OK | 09:56 |
| cvp | sry :) i mean jolla not xmpp :D | 09:56 |
| chem|st | tanty: jolla does support text only | 09:56 |
| tanty | then, it seems it is a feature we want for jolla's messaging app | 09:56 |
| TemeV | quite disappointing :( | 09:56 |
| chem|st | and it even brings my carbon to play up | 09:56 |
| tanty | or a niche for someone who would provide it in their app | 09:56 |
| tanty | using the plugins already existing in Sailfish | 09:57 |
| cvp | https://together.jolla.com/question/14555/suggestion-xmppjabber-muc-support/ | 09:57 |
| chem|st | jolla needs us to provide a proof of concept for anything we want and they adapt... just like the wlan-hotspot | 09:58 |
| tanty | cvp: thanks for the link | 09:58 |
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| lpotter | "wlan-hotspot" was being worked on before that tethering app was available... | 09:59 |
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| chem|st | lpotter: the "tethering" in settings uses wlan-hotspot, it even uses the same setting files | 10:00 |
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| cvp | tanty ... this is why i use whatsap account too, to chat with familie in one group and send picture/videos.... but if this is possible with xmpp under jolla, than i go complety to xmpp | 10:00 |
| lpotter | no, it uses libconnman-qt/connman | 10:00 |
| lpotter | I know, because I wrote it | 10:01 |
| chem|st | lpotter: wlan-hotspot or the integration? | 10:02 |
| lpotter | settings | 10:02 |
| tanty | cvp: I think the "cleanest" for a multi protocol app would be to implement a telepathy plugin for whatsapp (there are already some efforts on this, AFAIK) and, then, creating a telepathy client app (like Jolla's?) with extended UI to allow MUC | 10:02 |
| chem|st | lpotter: so and you wrote it up from scratch? | 10:02 |
| tanty | in any case, supporting privative protocols like WhatsApp in Telepathy is not a priority, I'm afraid | 10:02 |
| lpotter | chem|st: as in the 'share internet' settings page. it uses standard connman dbus calls | 10:02 |
| tanty | it is really a disgrace that it is so popular, existing plan XMPP | 10:03 |
| tanty | s/plan/plain/ | 10:03 |
| cvp | tanty: not only you :( | 10:03 |
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| coderus | tanty: whatsapp-purple already available | 10:03 |
| chem|st | lpotter: I did not want to start an argument... you are using the same paths as wlan-hotspot, at least I did not need to fill in any settings as they were the same as in wlan-hotspot | 10:03 |
| tanty | coderus: nice! didn't know ... | 10:04 |
| coderus | i'm using it on my desktop with pidgin :) | 10:04 |
| lpotter | chem|st: it uses dbus calls | 10:04 |
| tanty | how good does it work? | 10:04 |
| coderus | 100% | 10:04 |
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| tanty | believe it or not, my parents don't own a smartphone but want WhatsApp and they are thinking on replacing their regular phone just because of that | 10:05 |
| coderus | you only need external registration procedure, but on Jolla it can be acieved with accounts | 10:05 |
| tanty | would be great if I could just give them WhatsApp in their GNU/Linux box | 10:05 |
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| tanty | coderus: right! | 10:05 |
| coderus | just grab/compile wapurple and load it to pidgin | 10:05 |
| lpotter | chem|st: all that info is standard connman control :) | 10:06 |
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| cvp | coderus: but i cant use on both in same time or? also pidgin + phone | 10:08 |
| chem|st | lpotter: ok | 10:08 |
| lpotter | chem|st: the store tethering app just hastened the tethering settings release | 10:09 |
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| chem|st | good for me | 10:10 |
| TemeV | cvp, Whatsapp only supports one device at a time | 10:10 |
| chem|st | I am looking fwd to send MMS, at least something when I am unable to voicecall | 10:10 |
| coderus | cvp: you cant: http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/general/21009863 | 10:11 |
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| chem|st | very interesting to see what stuff gets prioritised | 10:11 |
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| cvp | coderus: is it not possible to sniff the pw directly on jolla phone ? | 10:24 |
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| coderus | cvp: what you mean? | 10:50 |
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| cvp | i read the how to to snif the pw from ehatsapp... but its for android,,, it need a cert ... and this is my question if its possible snif the pw with a jolla device | 10:53 |
| cvp | coderus: | 10:53 |
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| coderus | mitakuuluu keeping your whatsapp password in plain text :) | 10:54 |
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| cvp | lol really ? | 10:55 |
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| cvp | coderus: can you tell me where i find it ? | 10:56 |
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| coderus | cvp: sqlite3 /home/nemo/.whatsapp/whatsapp.db "select * from login;" | 10:58 |
| carepack | cvp: it was possible until novenber / december to sniff whatsapp in a local wireless lan. But the security risk is fixed. "WhatsApp Sniffer" isn't working anymore | 10:59 |
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| squidd | coderus: wow, password and plaintext... :( | 11:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | squidd: coderus yep, we should probably ask Jolla / Nemo guys to have some encrypted storage system | 11:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (friends token is also in plaintext, and so are pw stored in the jolla) | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords | 11:04 |
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| vans01 | hm... I wonder if pidgin could make use of kde wallet or gnome's analog, and if they are not present store plain... | 11:07 |
| coderus | squidd: well, its base64 encoded :D | 11:08 |
| cvp | coderus: its works... but show only groupe chats, no contacts... | 11:08 |
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| coderus | cvp: wapurple? | 11:08 |
| coderus | you need to add contacts or wait until them write to you | 11:09 |
| coderus | whatsapp not saving your contacts on server :) | 11:09 |
| vans01 | Stskeeps, hi, have you seen the link to pastebin with more detailed log (with sim and ril)? | 11:09 |
| coderus | only group chats you participating | 11:09 |
| Stskeeps | vans01: yeah i wasn't able to get additional debug out :/ | 11:09 |
| coderus | its myth about whatsapp keeping all your chat history and contacts :D | 11:09 |
| vans01 | Stskeeps, ok, I was wondering have you seen it or not. | 11:10 |
| vans01 | Stskeeps, so, possibly we sould leave it alone until next build ^_^ | 11:10 |
| cvp | its not a myth :) ... if i have a new phone and regist my number again , whatapp show me all my contacts | 11:11 |
| cvp | coderus: | 11:11 |
| coderus | cvp: official whatsapp syncing all your phonebook | 11:12 |
| squidd | I'm pretty sure it just does the sync automatically | 11:12 |
| squidd | ops slow as fuck | 11:12 |
| coderus | when you registering new phone in whatsapp, you havent clean phonebook, right? :) | 11:12 |
| coderus | its only mitakuuluu feature to choose contacts you want to synchronize | 11:13 |
| squidd | and what a nice feature it is <3 | 11:13 |
| squidd | hmm, I wonder why I cant install anything with warehouse :O | 11:13 |
| cvp | yeah :) | 11:14 |
| cvp | and is it possile to delete the information on whatsapp server ? | 11:14 |
| coderus | but well, if you sync your fiend who havent registered in whatsapp yet, and then your friend register in whatsapp and sync you, your friend's contact appear in your whatsapp chats automatically | 11:14 |
| coderus | cvp: there is delete account in official whatsapp and delete everything in mitakuuluu :) | 11:14 |
| cvp | wondering that this is possible to delete anythink ... i mean the permission to do that | 11:15 |
| coderus | what you mean? what permission? | 11:16 |
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| coderus | its xmpp based | 11:16 |
| cvp | to delete on whatapp server :D | 11:16 |
| coderus | you calling cleaning your server-side roster, messages pool and account information | 11:16 |
| cvp | for users | 11:16 |
| squidd | cvp: I'm pretty sure they delete stuff on their server when you delete it from the app | 11:16 |
| coderus | it cleaning your registration tokens and dropping your connection | 11:16 |
| squidd | as it will delete you from friends lists and stuff like that | 11:17 |
| cvp | hmm ok | 11:17 |
| coderus | and if someone sync your number server return 404 :) | 11:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: emails pw are stored plain text in the Jolla :( | 11:17 |
| coderus | i tested all cases when porting protocol | 11:17 |
| vans01 | squidd, a won't so sure, escepcially after facebook owning it. ;) | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: yes, how else can you auth with them? :P | 11:18 |
| vans01 | *won't be so | 11:18 |
| cvp | coderus: if you say, whatsapp is base on xmpp... is it not possible to change the server to my onw server like ejabberd ? | 11:18 |
| squidd | vans01: me neither but I'm just guessing they delete stuff since they say its irreversible and so on | 11:18 |
| vans01 | squidd, oh, yep. I see.. | 11:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: a bit of security don't hurt | 11:19 |
| coderus | cvp: sure. as soon as you get whatsapp server soures and implement all of its protocol and connect your server to whatsapp datacenters if you want to communicate with contacts connected to official servers :) | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | it's useless anyway, we could rot13 it, but it'd always be possible | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | we end up with a weapons race | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | and suddenly we have aegis | 11:19 |
| sharpneli | Sfiet_Konstantin: Is the PW readable by normal user processes? | 11:20 |
| sharpneli | Or do you need root? | 11:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sharpneli: no, it but it is from privileged | 11:20 |
| coderus | priveleged, yes | 11:20 |
| coderus | from any boosted process, gained privileged rights | 11:20 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | coderus: but you need to be in the privileged list to have access from boost | 11:21 |
| sharpneli | That's pretty much all security you can get. If you have root you can also just attach debugger to the mail client and grab the PW after it's been decrypted if it's crypted on the disk | 11:21 |
| coderus | Sfiet_Konstantin: SETGID | 11:21 |
| cvp | coderus: i dont want connected t other ... only with my contacts from my server ;) | 11:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | coderus: ah true | 11:21 |
| sharpneli | But you need the plaintext PW at some point because the mail server wants the plaintext PW. | 11:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | forgot SETGID issue | 11:21 |
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| coderus | cvp: then just use xmpp :) | 11:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sharpneli: true | 11:21 |
| coderus | isnt mailserver under SSL? | 11:22 |
| cvp | my think is , to use mitäkuuluu for my own server :D this is what i want to know ... | 11:22 |
| cvp | coderus: | 11:22 |
| coderus | cvp: why you need mitakuuluu then? use regular xmpp | 11:22 |
| cvp | because file sending is incl. an dall other think ;) ... and MUC | 11:22 |
| cvp | xmpp doesnt have file transfer and dont cant MUC ;) you know | 11:23 |
| coderus | its much easier to implement any xmpp client than creating whatsapp services over xmpp | 11:23 |
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| coderus | cvp: xmpp can do whatever you want | 11:23 |
| coderus | its jolla messenger cant | 11:24 |
| cvp | yes i know :D | 11:24 |
| cvp | BUT on jolla not | 11:24 |
| cvp | yes right :D | 11:24 |
| coderus | 17:23 < coderus> its much easier to implement any xmpp client than creating whatsapp services over xmpp | 11:24 |
| cvp | ... but i cant... no skilz ... and no body do that at moment :( | 11:25 |
| coderus | but you have skills on creating custom xmpp server and services, right? :D | 11:25 |
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| cvp | lol | 11:25 |
| cvp | with how to's on inet | 11:25 |
| vans01 | cvp, hm... if it's not dead, you may look at qutim | 11:25 |
| vans01 | cvp, i mean porting it | 11:26 |
| coderus | qutim is poorly coded | 11:26 |
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| coderus | i mean its too complex solution | 11:26 |
| coderus | there are too many xmpp clients written in qt | 11:26 |
| vans01 | coderus, don't know anything about it's internals :( | 11:26 |
| coderus | and telepathy clients too | 11:27 |
| vans01 | coderus, :D yep | 11:27 |
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| vans01 | coderus, but qutim is multiprotocol. but if it's poorly coded....( | 11:27 |
| vans01 | well, btw, it tries to use telepathy, afaik. | 11:27 |
| coderus | it have purple plugin | 11:28 |
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| coderus | but its the most poorly coded part of qutim :D | 11:28 |
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| coderus | and its not qutim issue | 11:28 |
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| vans01 | coderus, oh, yep.... There was some strange multiplugin multiprotocol things... they used own realisation ,than tried to use both libpurple and telepathy.... omg, I'm not that much integrated in qutim development.... | 11:29 |
| vans01 | coderus, well... I've liked qutim in it's early stages, hope it can grow up string and well coded :D | 11:30 |
| vans01 | *strong | 11:30 |
| coderus | qutim have good own xmpp protocol | 11:31 |
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| coderus | butpurple one is better, afaik | 11:31 |
| coderus | so i switched to pidgin | 11:31 |
| coderus | well | 11:31 |
| coderus | you can port pidgin :) | 11:31 |
| coderus | it will suit beeter to telepathy-based messaging system | 11:31 |
| vans01 | coderus, lol, yeah, great.... finally we can port pidgin | 11:31 |
| coderus | you just need to create silica ui for gui | 11:32 |
| coderus | as legacy pidgin is gtk | 11:32 |
| coderus | and i cant suggest anyone to port gtk :D | 11:32 |
| coderus | its doable, but why? :) | 11:32 |
| vans01 | hm... I don't that much like pidgin but it does work and it's the main thing that makes me use it | 11:33 |
| vans01 | yeah, " its doable, but why?" | 11:34 |
| coderus | yes. pidgin just work. | 11:36 |
| coderus | it have ugly ui and it breaks at some updates and then fixed again, but works :) | 11:36 |
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| flotron | Why i get this on qt creator? Wrong time in SDK? :-1: warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 1.9 s in the future | 12:00 |
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| nh1402 | Ubuntu touch has been unofficially ported to the nexus 5, I was wondering if it was possible to use the kernel for Ubuntu touch to work with sailfish as they have similarities such as libhybris | 12:01 |
| tbr | the patches for 4.4 have been floating around, origin is canonical | 12:01 |
| tbr | technically possible | 12:01 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: did you got the journal-logging from app to work? | 12:16 |
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| carepack | gmx.de | 12:36 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: only pushing text | 12:50 |
| coderus | cant really use properties like line, function and etc. | 12:51 |
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| kimmoli | ok | 12:53 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: is it working at all? did you succeded? or maybe i need to use some special way for getting full log from journal? | 13:23 |
| kimmoli | im just planning to start testing that | 13:24 |
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| Nicd- | [W] unknown:111 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Silica/PageStack.js:111: TypeError: Cannot read property 'parent' of null | 13:56 |
| Nicd- | what can this be related to? happens when I'm pushing a new page on the stack | 13:56 |
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| TheDoctor_ | Any new of a new update of Sailfish os for Nexus 4? | 14:06 |
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| nahkiss | Nicd-: without seeing any code, I would guess that there is no definite answer to that, but maybe you're having same problem as http://forum.jollausers.com/sailfish-developers/pagestack-js-111-error/ | 14:09 |
| Nicd- | nahkiss: the page I'm pushing is a simple Page with a SilicaListView | 14:10 |
| Nicd- | the only time parent is mentioned in that file is in 'anchors.fill: parent' in the SilicaListView | 14:11 |
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| leszek | hi | 14:34 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: code | 14:47 |
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| TheBootroo_home | hi ! | 15:30 |
| TheBootroo_home | i have an issue on Sailfish | 15:30 |
| TheBootroo_home | QLocale::system () always return "C" | 15:30 |
| TheBootroo_home | instead of the actual language of the device | 15:31 |
| TheBootroo_home | how can i detect language properly ? | 15:31 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | TheBootroo_home: I think you are wrong with something | 15:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | don't know what but something | 15:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | TheBootroo_home: gimme the snippet you are using | 15:43 |
| TheBootroo_home | QString lang = QLocale::system ().name (); | 15:43 |
| TheBootroo_home | in my case, should return "fr_FR" or at least "fr"* | 15:44 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | indeed, this sounds strange | 15:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | TheBootroo_home: did you called it before of after creating a QXApplication ? | 15:45 |
| TheBootroo_home | after | 15:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | indeed, strange ... | 15:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because what I'm using works perfectly | 15:46 |
| TheBootroo_home | in Friends ? | 15:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | in friends | 15:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | when loading translation | 15:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but I have just seen that I'm using QLocale | 15:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not QLocale::system | 15:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | try with a defaulty cnonstructed QLocale ? | 15:48 |
| TheBootroo_home | ok | 15:48 |
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| TheBootroo_home | Sfiet_Konstantin: using default QLocale works, but only when launched from launcher, not from QtCreator | 15:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | weired | 15:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | better keep default QLocale then, it should be always be invoked | 15:52 |
| TheBootroo_home | yep | 15:55 |
| TheBootroo_home | now i need to find people from different country to help in translation | 15:55 |
| TheBootroo_home | for now i made English and French | 15:55 |
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| Sailor5692 | Hi, does sdcard is know to not working on 1.0.4 ? My jolla back few hours ago from repair but sdcard doesn t seems to work | 16:01 |
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| stephg | Sailor5692, what format is the card? did it work before? | 16:03 |
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| Sailor5692 | was working on 1.0.3, didn t works after 1.0.4 and before sending device to repair | 16:04 |
| Sailor5692 | oh nick not set . | 16:05 |
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| Khertan | formatted ext3 or ext4 not sure | 16:06 |
| Khertan | oh dmesg see insert | 16:07 |
| stephg | ok | 16:07 |
| stephg | can you fsck it? | 16:07 |
| stephg | blkid /dev/mmcblk1p* | 16:07 |
| stephg | also | 16:07 |
| Khertan | lol no vfat | 16:09 |
| Khertan | dos/vfat | 16:09 |
| stephg | ah | 16:09 |
| Khertan | no fsck.vat on device | 16:10 |
| stephg | dunno whether dosfstools has it in or not | 16:10 |
| Khertan | so what is recommended fs ? | 16:10 |
| stephg | yeah there's a dosfsck in dosfstools | 16:10 |
| stephg | (or mount it in a pc and see if it's broken there) | 16:10 |
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| stephg | as to what's 'recommended', whatever floats your boat :) | 16:14 |
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| coderus | is there are easy way to create thumbnail for video file? | 16:33 |
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| Morpog_PC | coderus, maybe https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-thumbnailer? | 17:08 |
| Morpog_PC | https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-thumbnailer | 17:08 |
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| taixzo | Does anyone know how Sailfish stores emails? | 17:23 |
| stephg | in a mixture of flat files and a sqlite database | 17:24 |
| stephg | (the former probably transiently) | 17:25 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: yeah, already solved it with thumbmailer :) | 17:28 |
| coderus | is it known issue about unicode vcard files importing? | 17:28 |
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| coderus | cards with unicode values like N:;=D0=9C=D0=B8=D1=80=D0=B0;;; doesnt decoded while importing | 17:29 |
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| taixzo | stephg: any idea where? The emulator doesn't have the email package. | 17:36 |
| stephg | /home/nemo/.qmf | 17:36 |
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| stephg | btw | 17:45 |
| stephg | shutdown on the n4 sometimes seems to do an unordered one (without jolla overlay) | 17:46 |
| stephg | done it twice now after charging | 17:46 |
| stephg | will try and do it again but have charging, unplug charger, hold power button, it shuts off & reboots immediately to Google logo | 17:46 |
| stephg | rather than Jolla fade in and out and off | 17:46 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: ping ? | 17:52 |
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| kempe | is it possible to change the name for an app if its in the store? im thinking everything not just the name field where you submit the app. or will all settings and database be lost then? | 18:08 |
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| taixzo | How do I figure out a database layout in sailfish os? There's no database browser app yet, and I don't really know sqlite. | 18:15 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | ping Morpog_PC :$ | 18:21 |
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| m4g0g | taixzo: what do you want particulary? | 18:39 |
| taixzo | m4g0g: I'm writing a Siri-like app. One feature I want is the ability for it to tell me what new emails I have and read them to me. | 18:41 |
| taixzo | and I'm trying to figure out the database that the emails are in. | 18:41 |
| m4g0g | taixzo: hm. You want access to messages storage? | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | taixzo: pocketshpinx based? | 18:41 |
| taixzo | m4g0g: yes | 18:42 |
| taixzo | Stskeeps: we'll see | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:42 |
| taixzo | Stskeeps: currently it's just using wit.ai | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | wit.ai ..? | 18:43 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 18:43 | |
| taixzo | but if someone can package pocketsphinx I'll add that as an option | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | oh, that looks interesting | 18:43 |
| taixzo | because I do want this to be usable offline as well | 18:43 |
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| * lbt was looking at pocketsphinx as part of kde-speech some time back | 18:51 | |
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| Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, pong | 18:52 |
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| kimmoli | OT: do you pass Finnish language quick-test? http://ap2.sestatic.net/customer/iskielioppi/?v20140409 | 19:28 |
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| flotron | help with qtcreator/sdk | 20:12 |
| stephg | what's up flotron | 20:13 |
| anshin | quick question: can I write apps with languages other than C++? | 20:15 |
| ln- | javascript and qml | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | and python | 20:17 |
| flotron | stephg: classic hello world project--- throw me this :-1: warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 2.2 s in the future | 20:18 |
| flotron | when building | 20:18 |
| anshin | Stskeeps: will I have trouble leveraging anything in the SDK from python? | 20:19 |
| stephg | well clock skew but I'd have thought vbox should be good at that | 20:19 |
| stephg | but yeah checking the times on your box and the sdk build box | 20:19 |
| stephg | just booting mine to have a poke around | 20:20 |
| flotron | i took a look there, but i couldn't see clock options | 20:20 |
| flotron | i even tried reinstalling all | 20:20 |
| stephg | you should ssh into the box itself | 20:20 |
| stephg | 2.2s doesn't suggest timezones obvs | 20:20 |
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| flotron | i already ssh in there. But i can¡t understand how to sync 2.2 secs | 20:22 |
| stephg | I've forgotten where the bloody option is to show the virtualbox window... | 20:24 |
| stephg | ah found it | 20:26 |
| stephg | oh | 20:27 |
| stephg | what is the host OS? | 20:27 |
| flotron | win7 | 20:27 |
| stephg | it's not on a fat FS is it by any chance? | 20:27 |
| stephg | whereever the SailfishOS dir is for the SDK | 20:27 |
| Nokius | kaltsi: and u like the ambiance? | 20:28 |
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| stephg | flotron, from the rsync man page: | 20:28 |
| stephg | ...In particular, when transferring to or from an MS Windows FAT | 20:28 |
| stephg | filesystem (which represents times with a 2-second resolution), | 20:28 |
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| flotron | nono, in the main ntfs of win7 | 20:28 |
| stephg | hm ok | 20:28 |
| stephg | ^^ that's bitten me before | 20:28 |
| stephg | ok so not that | 20:29 |
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| flotron | i found on google guys with same problem and without answer | 20:31 |
| stephg | *might* be worth tinkering with some of this: | 20:33 |
| stephg | http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#changetimesync | 20:33 |
| stephg | but I don't really know I'm afraid :( | 20:33 |
| stephg | which version of vbox? | 20:34 |
| flotron | latest, now. Going to watch there | 20:34 |
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| Khertan | So sdcard working, formatted on pc didnt mount on jolla | 20:40 |
| Khertan | any idea to understand why ? | 20:41 |
| stephg | formatted as what? | 20:41 |
| Khertan | ext4 | 20:41 |
| stephg | hm | 20:41 |
| stephg | that should work | 20:41 |
| stephg | when you insert it what does dmesg say? | 20:41 |
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| stephg | it should automount at /media/sdcard/<uuid> | 20:42 |
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| Khertan | stephg: unknow partition table | 20:46 |
| Khertan | hum | 20:46 |
| stephg | did you just mkfs straight onto the raw device or did you partition it before | 20:46 |
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| stephg | how big is the card btw? | 20:47 |
| Khertan | used gparted | 20:47 |
| Khertan | partition table bsd type | 20:47 |
| stephg | what does fdisk -l /dev/mmcblkp1 say? | 20:47 |
| stephg | sorry | 20:48 |
| Khertan | look like not supported | 20:48 |
| stephg | fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk1 | 20:48 |
| taixzo | anshin: check out pyotherside | 20:48 |
| Khertan | give stats if sdcsrd | 20:49 |
| stephg | http://pastie.org/9062974 | 20:49 |
| Khertan | 32gb | 20:49 |
| stephg | for comparision, that's my 32g ext4 one | 20:49 |
| Khertan | stephg: sorry not found how to copy in jolla term | 20:49 |
| Khertan | :) | 20:49 |
| stephg | hehe | 20:49 |
| stephg | bsd type or bsd disklabel? | 20:51 |
| Khertan | stephg: indeed i ve nt partition list | 20:51 |
| Khertan | not sure that gui didnt give real detail | 20:52 |
| stephg | right | 20:52 |
| stephg | do you have any data on that card yet that you care about? | 20:52 |
| Khertan | i ll format it tomorrow with cmd line on my desktop | 20:52 |
| Khertan | no none data | 20:52 |
| stephg | you can do it on device if you want to | 20:52 |
| Khertan | backed up already | 20:52 |
| stephg | (just be careful to not do anything to the internal memory) | 20:52 |
| Khertan | thx for your help, must go on | 20:53 |
| taixzo | Is there a way to initiate a phone call from a script? | 20:53 |
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| stephg | taixzo you may be able to do it via dbus | 20:54 |
| stephg | see: https://together.jolla.com/question/17992/sending-an-sms-via-the-command-line/ | 20:54 |
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| taixzo | hmm. That's helpful for SMS, but I can't get it to place a call. | 20:58 |
| taixzo | Sailfish needs a wiki page like this one: wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control | 20:58 |
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| stephg | hm more exploration in power. this time it won't start | 21:04 |
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| flotron | stephg that worked! :) | 21:13 |
| stephg | cool :) | 21:14 |
| stephg | it may be worth recording that somewhere | 21:14 |
| flotron | i dont know which but it worked, because every command you need to restart SDK to try | 21:14 |
| stephg | ah | 21:15 |
| stephg | still, glad it's sorted | 21:15 |
| flotron | for the IRC log record C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox>VBoxManage setextradata "MerSDK" "VBoxInterna | 21:15 |
| flotron | l/Devices/VMMDev/0/Config/GetHostTimeDisabled" 1 | 21:15 |
| flotron | C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox>VBoxManage setextradata "MerSDK" "VBoxInterna | 21:15 |
| flotron | l/Devices/VMMDev/0/Config/GetHostTimeDisabled" 0 | 21:15 |
| flotron | C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox>VBoxManage setextradata "MerSDK" "VBoxInterna | 21:15 |
| flotron | l/TM/WarpDrivePercentage" 200 | 21:15 |
| flotron | Sorry for the flood | 21:16 |
| flotron | another record: | 21:16 |
| flotron | C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox>VBoxManage guestproperty set "MerSDK" "/Virtu | 21:17 |
| flotron | alBox/GuestAdd/VBoxService/--timesync-min-adjust" 100 | 21:17 |
| flotron | C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox>VBoxManage guestproperty set "MerSDK" "/Virtu | 21:17 |
| flotron | alBox/GuestAdd/VBoxService/--timesync-max-latency" 100 | 21:17 |
| flotron | C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox>VBoxManage guestproperty set "MerSDK" "/Virtu | 21:17 |
| flotron | alBox/GuestAdd/VBoxService/--timesync-max-latency" 250 | 21:17 |
| flotron | thats all i tried | 21:17 |
| stephg | well still good to know | 21:18 |
| flotron | Thank you stephg! | 21:18 |
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| stephg | can I ask a (silly) question about what goes on with the n4 at boot | 21:25 |
| stephg | probably my ignorance of android but just trying to understand | 21:25 |
| stephg | I seem to have something that isn't dissimilar to recovery if I start the n4 in a certain way | 21:26 |
| stephg | but there's a dhcp server there | 21:26 |
| stephg | can't ssh or telnet tho | 21:26 |
| stephg | anyway only reason I mention it is that if you start the device from flat, it'll eventually boot, but then on shutdown it does a restart instead of the jolla shutdown | 21:27 |
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| stephg | ah looks like hybris-boot | 21:32 |
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| taixzo | so I captured the dbus messages while I placed a phone call. The only one that contained the phone number was this one: http://pastebin.com/9vHFrgvq | 21:46 |
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| taixzo | Any idea how I'd run that with dbus-send? | 21:46 |
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| special | taixzo: you do not send that message | 21:53 |
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| special | taixzo: take a look at https://github.com/nemomobile/voicecall/blob/master/lib/src/dbus/voicecallmanagerdbusadapter.h | 21:55 |
| special | and proceed at your own risk | 21:55 |
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| special | you may also want to check if the UI exposes a dbus interface you can use to dial a call, which might give you better UI behaviors. | 21:56 |
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| taixzo | special: how do I check that? | 21:59 |
| taixzo | I know very little about dbus | 22:00 |
| * lbt notes that that's a better place to start from than knowing nothing :) | 22:01 | |
| taixzo | lbt: I know just enough to break things | 22:02 |
| special | taixzo: actually, there's a smarter approach | 22:02 |
| special | you can follow what tel: URLs do | 22:02 |
| special | which from /usr/share/applications/voicecall-ui-openurl.desktop we can see is com.jolla.voicecall.ui.openUrl | 22:02 |
| taixzo | special: do those actually initiate the call or just open the number in dialer? | 22:03 |
| lbt | neat | 22:03 |
| special | might have a prompt first, I don't recall | 22:03 |
| lbt | special: registered with QML Url handler? | 22:03 |
| special | lbt: yep | 22:03 |
| lbt | v. neat :) | 22:03 |
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| taixzo | because I'm trying to make this hands-free | 22:03 |
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| taixzo | special: I made a tel: link, clicked it, and then hit "cancel" when the dialog came up because I'd forgotten to start dbus-monitor. That appears to have cancelled tel: links system-wide; I can no longer open them from any browser. | 22:28 |
| special | cool | 22:28 |
| special | if you open dialer manually, does it start working again? | 22:29 |
| coderus | qmlprofiler not really helped. after application stuck and killed it freezed at "Loading data..." | 22:29 |
| coderus | jake9xx: ^ | 22:30 |
| special | taixzo: I can't reproduce that via xdg-open at least | 22:30 |
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| taixzo | special: not sure, I don't want to go and rebuild a webpage in tryit editor just to make another tel: link | 22:33 |
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| taixzo | special: I can't seem to call anything from VoiceCallManager with dbus | 22:33 |
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| taixzo | it says it doesn't exist: http://pastebin.com/X2Yhrukt | 22:35 |
| special | taixzo: okay, introspection seems a little broken here, but | 22:35 |
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| special | what you want is com.jolla.voicecall.ui / com.jolla.voicecall.ui.dial(string) | 22:36 |
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| special | e.g.: gdbus call -e -d com.jolla.voicecall.ui -o / -m com.jolla.voicecall.ui.dial '#225#' | 22:37 |
| special | tells me that I should refill this SIM | 22:37 |
| taixzo | special: what is the difference between dbus-send and gdbus? | 22:42 |
| special | gdbus is slightly easier to deal with | 22:42 |
| special | they do the same thing. so does qdbus. | 22:42 |
| taixzo | ok. well, it's working with that command! | 22:42 |
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| taixzo | but it didn't seem to work with dbus-send. So I guess I'll just call gdbus from python | 22:46 |
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