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| coderus | manqeloq1e: what you mean? | 06:19 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | any of the sailfish for android people around? | 08:00 |
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| Bysmyyr | MFaro-Tusino: most times better to ask directly, not ask for asking | 08:03 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | Bysmyyr: Sorry, I don’t know who is on that team anymore, hence it was an open query | 08:04 |
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| SK_work | MFaro-Tusino: ask Stskeeps or sledges | 08:08 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | i’ll ping sledges, hate always bothering stskeeps :p | 08:11 |
| MFaro-Tusino | sledges: when you’re around, give me a nudge please. Quick query about the zipping of the rootfs for sailfish on Android | 08:11 |
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| coderus | hello | 08:35 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | \o sledges | 08:36 |
| coderus | there is ImageMetadata in Sailfish.Gallery i can use for getting image width/height | 08:36 |
| sledges | hilo | 08:36 |
| coderus | but what can i use for getting video geometry? | 08:36 |
| MFaro-Tusino | is there a proper channel for SF on Android? or just ask away here? | 08:36 |
| sledges | MFaro-Tusino: shoot here | 08:36 |
| sledges | it's sf ;) | 08:37 |
| MFaro-Tusino | sorry :p | 08:37 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Okay, so given a tar.bz2 rootfs for an android device, how do i zip it in order to flash ? I opened the Nexus 4 zip and discovered the hybris img and META-INF folder with two binaries and altered to my needs but no it fails (which is no surprise) | 08:38 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I’m sure this will be answered with HADK but I’m impatient haha | 08:39 |
| sledges | MFaro-Tusino: coming up with HA for new android device is much more than rezipping manually modified image | 08:41 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | sleges: oh I know! i have the device specific rootfs built from a ks using mic | 08:42 |
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| sledges | you said "it fails" - how? | 08:47 |
| sledges | MFaro-Tusino: ^, and what did you altered to your needs? :) | 08:51 |
| MFaro-Tusino | failed during install with the META-INF folder | 08:52 |
| MFaro-Tusino | and I altered updater-unpack.sh | 08:53 |
| sledges | so | 08:53 |
| sledges | take it stepwise | 08:53 |
| meek_geek | hi | 08:53 |
| sledges | alter one line - test | 08:53 |
| sledges | printf | 08:53 |
| sledges | ;) | 08:53 |
| sledges | hi meek_geek | 08:53 |
| MFaro-Tusino | It was only the one line in updater-unpack.sh that I altered | 08:54 |
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| meek_geek | sledges, sup | 08:54 |
| MFaro-Tusino | replaced where it linked to mako.tar.bz2 to be hammerhead.tar.bz2 | 08:54 |
| sledges | meek_geek: fryday! | 08:54 |
| leszek | hi | 08:54 |
| sledges | well, see what fails where | 08:54 |
| sledges | precisely | 08:54 |
| sledges | that .sh is for mako | 08:54 |
| leszek | anyone successfully running textsecure with acl on sailfish ? | 08:54 |
| sledges | enrtirely, so much more to alter | 08:55 |
| meek_geek | sledges, cool .. What do you think about tizen ? | 08:55 |
| sledges | meek_geek: haven't heard much from them | 08:55 |
| meek_geek | sledges, Do you think Sailfish OS would be a fully open os soon ? | 08:56 |
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| sledges | there was a phone demo in mwc, using draggable/closeable windows | 08:56 |
| sledges | :) | 08:56 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | E: could not extract ‘META-INF/com/google/android | 08:57 |
| sledges | meek_geek: nemomobile is fully os ;) | 08:57 |
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| sledges | MFaro-Tusino: is that a full error? | 08:59 |
| MFaro-Tusino | doubtful, I just can’t see the error beyond that | 08:59 |
| meek_geek | sledges, nemomobile ? | 08:59 |
| sledges | meek_geek: https://twitter.com/nemomobile | 08:59 |
| MFaro-Tusino | wait, nvm, can copy log to sd | 08:59 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i’ll go have a look at the logs | 08:59 |
| sledges | MFaro-Tusino: yes, you can adb in | 09:00 |
| MFaro-Tusino | http://paste.kde.org/p0po8csaa | 09:03 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | btw, appreciate the help sledges :) | 09:05 |
| sledges | MFaro-Tusino: i think you need to use another zip package | 09:08 |
| sledges | linux `zip` is best bet | 09:08 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | this is what happens when you use OS X to do linux hackery haha | 09:08 |
| MFaro-Tusino | firing up that vm again | 09:09 |
| zuh | Compression method "12" seems to be bzip2 according to the zip spec | 09:09 |
| sledges | the road to hell is paved with good intentions MFaro-Tusino ;) i appreciate your passion for OSX though :) | 09:11 |
| sledges | that's interesting zuh | 09:12 |
| MFaro-Tusino | if linux had the mainstream software support of OS X/Windows I wouldn’t use OS X. But as it is, its a struggle to get OS X softwares, let alone linux | 09:13 |
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| sledges | flame warning ^_^ | 09:17 |
| Nicd- | but it's true | 09:17 |
| Nicd- | linux does not have the same support for mainstream software as Windows and to a lesser extent OS X. what you can live with is another matter | 09:17 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | it comes down to what i need not what i want | 09:18 |
| * sledges quit last job for that :) | 09:18 | |
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| Nicd- | I use Linux (Ubuntu GNOME) at work but so far I still prefer OS X on my own laptop | 09:20 |
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| meek_geek | Nicd-, Y | 09:32 |
| TemeV | OS X is just so good with laptop. On desktop it loses it advantage a bit, and I prefer Linux there | 09:32 |
| Nicd- | meek_geek: is that a "yes" or "why"? | 09:32 |
| meek_geek | why | 09:33 |
| meek_geek | I love gnu/linux everywhere | 09:33 |
| meek_geek | use Debian or Arch whatever you like | 09:34 |
| sharpneli | I really don't want to use linux on a laptop myself. It's always "Oh the ACPI tables are bugged due to hitler and thus you drain battery like #"?"!" | 09:34 |
| Nicd- | because I feel more comfortable with OS X. I haven't found a desktop environment that I would feel totally comfortable in for linux yet. and of course I don't want to have to fix it | 09:35 |
| sharpneli | Or small annoying things like some special buttons not working etc. I just cba to fix them anymore. | 09:35 |
| Nicd- | I had to hunt down drivers for my work laptop | 09:35 |
| TemeV | Battery life is great with OS X | 09:35 |
| TemeV | I think Linux would not be as far optimized with macbooks | 09:35 |
| TemeV | my 4 year old macbook pro still runs 4 hours with light usage | 09:36 |
| Nicd- | they really optimized battery usage with 10.9 | 09:36 |
| meek_geek | use freebsd then | 09:37 |
| sharpneli | :D | 09:37 |
| Nicd- | huh? :D | 09:37 |
| TemeV | and I love the touchpad gestures | 09:37 |
| meek_geek | use freebsd on a laptop | 09:37 |
| Nicd- | why? | 09:37 |
| meek_geek | I think | 09:37 |
| sharpneli | Solution for bad linux laptop drivers = System with even worse support :D | 09:37 |
| meek_geek | I think gnu/linux is ok on a laptop | 09:37 |
| Nicd- | "I think" doesn't quite cut it | 09:37 |
| MFaro-Tusino | ubuntu on OS X is terrible | 09:38 |
| Nicd- | ubuntu on os x? | 09:38 |
| Waitee | ubuntu on os x? | 09:38 |
| Nicd- | do you mean ubuntu on a macbook? or in a vm? | 09:38 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I mean MBP | 09:38 |
| MFaro-Tusino | hahah | 09:38 |
| meek_geek | debian over any OS on planet = awesome | 09:38 |
| sharpneli | 'sides. What's wrong with OS X? It's enough of an unix system to be nicely usable. | 09:38 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I’m sleepy hahah | 09:38 |
| MFaro-Tusino | sharpneli: thats why I use it ;) | 09:38 |
| meek_geek | OS X is prop | 09:39 |
| Nicd- | sharpneli: it's evil because apple and steve and you are a sheeple | 09:39 |
| Waitee | :D | 09:39 |
| sharpneli | :D | 09:39 |
| sharpneli | <3 | 09:39 |
| TemeV | sharpneli, I'm guessing it is the apple-logo on top right corner | 09:39 |
| TemeV | *top left | 09:39 |
| Waitee | i'd propably never buy an iphone or ipad | 09:39 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i would buy an iPad if it ran OS X | 09:39 |
| Waitee | but apple laptops arent overpriced, they are good quality and everything works | 09:39 |
| TemeV | Waitee, me neither. I don't like iProducts | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | i think we're drifting off topic, guys.. :P | 09:40 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Imagine an MBP running sf | 09:40 |
| MFaro-Tusino | *shifts it back on topic* | 09:40 |
| Waitee | Stskeeps: just because this is a channel for sailfish doesnt mean we cant discuss other stuff :D | 09:40 |
| sharpneli | Stskeeps: Now now. Isn't it obvious that the "i would buy an iPad if it ran OS X" is a hint that everyone would buy a sailfish tablet?-) | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | sure, just noting that it's developer support and such :) | 09:40 |
| zuh | Stskeeps: awwww, they didn't even get to editors yet... ;) | 09:40 |
| Nicd- | Waitee: well, that's up to Stskeeps :D | 09:40 |
| meek_geek | no guys Debian is so far the best OS | 09:40 |
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| sharpneli | Yes. If you want to run 5 year old software. | 09:41 |
| Waitee | seems pretty lame to restrict what people can chat :D | 09:41 |
| meek_geek | sharpneli, debian testing is 6 months old | 09:41 |
| sharpneli | I think I'm getting old. I hate pretty much every OS and every distro. | 09:41 |
| Nicd- | I'd love to use some Arch derivative on desktop if I managed to get it to work :P | 09:41 |
| TemeV | Waitee, though, I would not buy new Macbooks either | 09:41 |
| zuh | Waitee: it's about where, not what... | 09:41 |
| TemeV | They made the mistake of soldering everything to motherboard | 09:42 |
| Nicd- | had to resort to Ubuntu GNOME on my work laptop to get any work done :D | 09:42 |
| meek_geek | xubuntu is fine | 09:42 |
| meek_geek | 14.04 is pretty stable | 09:42 |
| MFaro-Tusino | so sledges, worse off than I was before | 09:42 |
| jake9xx | TemeV: plus you don't know what kind of SSD you get | 09:42 |
| Waitee | :D | 09:42 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Only get Error flashing zip '/sdcard/jolla-hammerhead-release.zip' | 09:42 |
| sharpneli | Arch linux is kinda fine if you use it only on Desktop. | 09:42 |
| TemeV | jake9xx, really? They use several manufacturers? | 09:43 |
| Waitee | if i had to buy a new laptop or something i'd really buy m$ surface pro2 | 09:43 |
| Nicd- | sharpneli: I run Arch on my server because I like living on the edge :P | 09:43 |
| jake9xx | TemeV: yeah, it was recently in the news. At home you know if you got Sandisk, Toshiba or Samsung | 09:43 |
| jake9xx | funny that they don't run Kingstons - and in my work laptop (x230) that is the best performing SSD I've used | 09:43 |
| Waitee | jake9xx: kingston quality has dropped dramatically | 09:44 |
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| sledges | MFaro-Tusino: adb in and try to unzip it there, upload error? | 09:44 |
| sledges | btw hint: use sideload, is better than scratching your SD card every time | 09:44 |
| sledges | for future | 09:44 |
| TemeV | MBPs also have glossy screens, which I hate also | 09:44 |
| MFaro-Tusino | yeah it was zipped wrong hahah | 09:45 |
| MFaro-Tusino | and sdcard in this case is emulated storage, N5 doesn’t have sd slot ;) | 09:45 |
| TemeV | One reason why I would like to buy a new computer is to get matte screen. This MBP just works otherwise so well, that I don't really have an excuse to buy a new laptop :) | 09:45 |
| Waitee | matte screen is nce | 09:46 |
| Waitee | nice* | 09:46 |
| sledges | MFaro-Tusino: that ;) | 09:47 |
| jake9xx | Waitee: since when ? My drive was bought umm... last autumn. It's one of the old stuff found at shelf in Verkkokauppa.com. | 09:47 |
| jake9xx | Waitee: my home ASUS runs on OCZ Vector, it's a real scramer. Used to have Vertex III but even compared to that random writes are blistering fast | 09:48 |
| Waitee | dont really know when the drop in quality happened but the new thumbsticks are totally rubbish | 09:49 |
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| TemeV | Waitee, it doesn't mean that all products are rubbish | 09:49 |
| Waitee | well tbh my kingston ssd has worked fine | 09:50 |
| Waitee | bought after last christmas | 09:50 |
| TemeV | these days even "good manufacturers" tend to make also cheap rubbish which they sell using their good reputation | 09:50 |
| Waitee | :D | 09:50 |
| TemeV | e.g. cheap laptops of lenovo | 09:50 |
| Waitee | i bought a 16gb usb3 stick from kingston which is slower than any of my usb2.0 sticks :D | 09:51 |
| SK_work | TemeV: geez, don't tell me about lenovo | 09:51 |
| Waitee | TemeV: true :D | 09:51 |
| SK_work | TemeV: especially the fact that they ruined their kbd :( | 09:51 |
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| TemeV | SK_work, don't they still sell the good old thinkpads also? | 09:52 |
| Waitee | i heard they removed the scroll button for the trackpoing mouse | 09:52 |
| SK_work | TemeV: x240 is horrible (since they mapped their kbd to win8) | 09:54 |
| SK_work | they are still here, but less good compared to eg X200 | 09:54 |
| Waitee | SK_work: what does mapping for win8 change on keyboard? | 09:54 |
| Waitee | except the windows button logo | 09:54 |
| SK_work | Waitee: well, you don't have fn keys, instead, you have volume, etc | 09:55 |
| Waitee | well havent they always had specific keys to control volume on thinkpads? | 09:55 |
| Waitee | whats wrong with that :D | 09:55 |
| Waitee | i personally hate function keys | 09:56 |
| TemeV | Can't you change the behaviour to default to f-keys? | 09:56 |
| Waitee | oh you mean f1-12 | 09:57 |
| Waitee | well that sucks | 09:57 |
| Waitee | i thought stuff like fn + arrows to control volume and brightness | 09:57 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | sledges: turns out I fail at compressing to a zip via terminal | 10:06 |
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| * sledges used filemanager that comes with ArchBang (OpenBox) | 10:15 | |
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| sledges | compressing via nautilus should do same good | 10:15 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | still no luck sledges :( | 10:26 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | now i don’t even gett error messages | 10:26 |
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| sledges | dig deeper :) | 10:29 |
| MFaro-Tusino | how much deeper can I dig? | 10:29 |
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| sledges | see what change caused what effect | 10:36 |
| sledges | and that no other side-effects came in way (perform md5 checks, ensure reliable usb cable etc) | 10:37 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Maybe I’ll just need to wait for vgrade or situ to pop up online | 10:38 |
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| sledges | they'll just give your right scripts | 10:38 |
| sledges | and you'll have learned less ;) | 10:38 |
| sledges | up to you :) | 10:38 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i learn better from seeing the final result | 10:39 |
| MFaro-Tusino | then digging deep backwards | 10:39 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | ideally though, I’d just be following HADK by now ;) | 10:41 |
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| sledges | it's not an ideal world ;) | 10:47 |
| sledges | all depends on one's level of tolerance | 10:48 |
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| coderus | any way i can get video width/height in c++? | 11:23 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: didn't you manage in that already? | 11:26 |
| m4g0g | lbt, how long is package checkin process? | 11:29 |
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| Schrostfutz | what is the easiest (and cheap(est)) way to get a smartphone with sailfishos? | 11:35 |
| cos- | first one would be getting a Jolla | 11:35 |
| jussi | yeah, buy a jolla, simple plus overall the phone is quite cheap. | 11:36 |
| Waitee | the phone is quite expensive concidering the hardware | 11:37 |
| sledges | and you get all the bells and whistles (toh, android apps) | 11:37 |
| Waitee | but i'd still buy jolla instead of, say, huawei ascend p6 | 11:37 |
| sledges | Waitee: sailfish does not consider hardware ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkWhfdt_gYQ | 11:37 |
| Waitee | sledges: i know it doesnt, but still it's a bit overpriced for the hardware | 11:38 |
| sledges | you're not paying for the hardware | 11:38 |
| Waitee | well if i understood correctly, sailfishos is opensoure and free | 11:39 |
| Waitee | source* | 11:39 |
| sledges | then jolla should sell an OS-less phone, wonder what price would be :) | 11:39 |
| Waitee | i merely bought it because my old phone was crap and i wanted something new | 11:40 |
| sledges | it's the sw integration and company costs you're paying for | 11:40 |
| Waitee | yupp, i know | 11:40 |
| Waitee | and i love my jolla | 11:40 |
| Waitee | dont get me wrong on that :D | 11:41 |
| sledges | we're talking about the price of jolla phone ;) | 11:41 |
| Waitee | yes | 11:41 |
| Waitee | the price is high because jolla cant afford giving them so cheap | 11:41 |
| cos- | Waitee: sailfish is not open source & free. major parts of it are. | 11:42 |
| sledges | Waitee: yep, and has to give something in return - the sw ;) | 11:43 |
| Waitee | cos-: last summer when i preordered my jolla i heard everyone being really loud about a "truly open source phone" | 11:43 |
| Waitee | seems a bit missleading eh? | 11:43 |
| cos- | Waitee: you'll still need to wait for one. | 11:43 |
| sledges | it's not black and white | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | truly open, not truly open source.. | 11:44 |
| Stskeeps | though a large majority is | 11:44 |
| cos- | there isn't a 100% open source phone on this planet afaik | 11:44 |
| Waitee | nope, there isnt | 11:44 |
| Waitee | but to be honest i guess this is the wrong channel if i want to have a chat about jolla in non-fanboy manner :D | 11:47 |
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| cos- | Waitee: who exactly called it a "truly open source phone"? | 11:54 |
| Waitee | cos-: no fucking clue :D it was a year ago | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | open is such a bullshit word.. :P | 11:55 |
| Waitee | yep | 11:56 |
| cos- | i remember when android was called that | 11:56 |
| Waitee | cos-: "who exactly called it that?" | 11:57 |
| Waitee | ;D | 11:57 |
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| cos- | sailfish is open sourcer than android, which is open sourcer than for example symbian. but nothing can be called fully open source. | 11:58 |
| Waitee | exactly | 11:58 |
| jussi | nemo is about the closest thing youll get... | 11:59 |
| Waitee | https://together.jolla.com/question/24454/why-is-sailfish-advertised-as-truly-open/ | 11:59 |
| cos- | jussi: but nemo is all you need to build a phone | 12:01 |
| cos- | is not | 12:01 |
| cos- | Waitee: ok, it's on the front page | 12:02 |
| Waitee | :D | 12:02 |
| Waitee | granted, it doesnt say "open source" but it's still a bit missleading if you ask me | 12:03 |
| Aard | Waitee: well, we don't lock you down with stuff like aegis :p | 12:04 |
| Waitee | Aard: what's that? | 12:04 |
| jussi | cos-: mer+nemo is all, except specific drivers I guess | 12:04 |
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| Aard | Waitee: the security framework on the n9 | 12:05 |
| Dvorakfag | with the nexus 4 porting can i dist-upgrade? | 12:05 |
| Dvorakfag | oh right. hi everyone. | 12:06 |
| Waitee | hi Dvorakfag | 12:06 |
| Waitee | nice nick :D | 12:06 |
| Dvorakfag | :D | 12:06 |
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| Dvorakfag | i've spended like three hours setting up the phone, then I wondered: when the next update comes out, could I flash it over the old one? | 12:08 |
| Aard | Dvorakfag: as in, 'keep my content/settings'? | 12:09 |
| Dvorakfag | yup | 12:09 |
| Aard | probably not, though updatability will come eventually | 12:10 |
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| cos- | do the OTA upgrades rewrite the partition or just upgrade packages? | 12:11 |
| Dvorakfag | and with dist-upgrades? I noticed a new version of libhybris. is it safe to update? | 12:11 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: no | 12:39 |
| coderus | kimmoli: only for images | 12:39 |
| coderus | still have trouble with videos | 12:40 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: could this be something that helps >> http://pastebin.com/QdSrG0yF | 12:45 |
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| jusa_ | Elleo: you are cutespotify author, right? | 12:53 |
| Elleo | jusa_: yep? | 12:53 |
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| jusa_ | Elleo: yeah. there are going to be some changes to the QtMultimedia audio bits regarding resource policy, and need to change apps doing resource policy themselves.. also would be nice to test with some real life applications. I have some other suggestions re cutespotify as well | 12:55 |
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| jusa_ | I wasn't sure if I understood how the stuff was done in cutespotify, but now while writing and reading I think I got it :) | 12:56 |
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| Elleo | jusa_: okay, cool; any news on when QAudioOutput is likely to support resource stuff properly? That'd be the ideal fix from my perspective as it'd mean CuteSpotify wouldn't have to do resource management itself anymore | 12:57 |
| jusa_ | Elleo: yeah, QAudioOutput with resource coming | 12:57 |
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| Elleo | okay, cool | 12:57 |
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| Elleo | well if you need anything from my side feel free to give me a poke | 12:58 |
| jusa_ | will do, thanks | 12:58 |
| Elleo | I haven't had much time for CuteSpotify stuff lately, but if something is needed urgently to keep it compatible with Sailfish then I'll happily make some time for it | 12:58 |
| jusa_ | in perfect world I'd submit some patches, but at least previously I didn't understand fully how you build & package cutespotify | 12:59 |
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| Elleo | yeah, there are a few oddities like having to bundle up some libs with it and some stuff that isn't in the repo containing private spotify keys and such (the README should detail the process for getting your own keys though) | 13:01 |
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| jusa_ | yep, I have the spotify key | 13:01 |
| Elleo | well, any questions just let me know | 13:02 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: hm-m-m | 13:15 |
| coderus | kimmoli: is player metadata loading time acceptable for realtime actions? | 13:15 |
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| kimmoli | mean < 1ms, i think not. | 13:16 |
| coderus | not? | 13:17 |
| kimmoli | my guess is that this is file-size dependent | 13:17 |
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| coderus | i hope it shouldnt :D | 13:19 |
| kimmoli | i have test-setup here, just need to get tics or something to evaluate it | 13:20 |
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| coderus | QElapsedTimer? | 13:21 |
| kimmoli | sounds good | 13:22 |
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| kimmoli | you dont like this | 13:27 |
| kimmoli | [D] Mete::showMetaData:36 - Resolution! QVariant(QSize, QSize(1280, 720) ) was got in 1052 ms | 13:27 |
| kimmoli | kiitos.mp4 is 20M file | 13:27 |
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| kimmoli | 56M file took about the same | 13:29 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | hi guys | 13:36 |
| Waitee | hi | 13:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | any way to got vnc | 13:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | from jolla | 13:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | use phone via vnc | 13:37 |
| Wnt | dr_gogeta86: I haven't heard of any tool like that :( | 13:39 |
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| Wnt | oh found something from together.jolla.com https://together.jolla.com/question/32196/screen-sharing-feature-app-for-demonstration-purposes/#post-id-32274 | 13:41 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: ~800ms with improved test-setup. | 13:45 |
| kimmoli | ttyl | 13:45 |
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| meek_geek | a good epub reader on SFOS ? | 13:50 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: acceptable :) | 13:53 |
| coderus | kimmoli: thanks | 13:53 |
| coderus | btw, v0.6-8 gt or lt v0.7.0-1 ? | 13:53 |
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| squidd | anyone want to buy jolla in finland? | 18:53 |
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| Waitee | :D | 18:53 |
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| squidd | let me know if anyone is intrested, I got one extra | 18:55 |
| slate | twenty bucks | 18:58 |
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| squidd | no deal :( | 19:02 |
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| coderus | $100? :) | 19:17 |
| Waitee | 25? | 19:17 |
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| coderus | i need jolla for my girlfriend | 19:17 |
| squidd | damn you guys, you dont give it that much worth :D | 19:19 |
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| coderus | i just have no more money :( | 19:31 |
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| stephg | coderus: fwiw I think 0.6-8 < 0.7.0-1 | 19:41 |
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| coderus | stephg: okAY, THANKS :) | 20:17 |
| coderus | damn caps :D | 20:18 |
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