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| Bysmyyr | coderus_: I sent a logfile to you about over 50% cpu usage... I hope it helps something | 07:05 |
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| coderus_ | Bysmyyr: no | 07:23 |
| coderus_ | i said 10000 times i dont need logs of this issue | 07:23 |
| coderus_ | its useless :D | 07:23 |
| coderus_ | i'm removing 10 logs every day from my inbox :D | 07:24 |
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| Bysmyyr | ok | 07:27 |
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| coderus_ | i'm not fixing it because i have no time and resources | 07:29 |
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| Bysmyyr | ok | 07:30 |
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| coderus_ | and google mail thinks all "Mitakuuluu bug" emails are spam because of too many emails :D | 07:33 |
| Nicd- | sadly mitakuuluu is completely useless now :/ back to having no whatsapp on jolla | 07:34 |
| Nicd- | hope somebody picks up on it, I don't have the resources either | 07:34 |
| coderus_ | you can get and use 0.7.7 version | 07:35 |
| coderus_ | it's pretty stable | 07:35 |
| Nicd- | will it work with the 0.8.0 db or do I have to remove it? | 07:35 |
| coderus_ | sure | 07:35 |
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| Bysmyyr | coderus_: you should put that version to openrepos | 07:40 |
| inte | Bysmyyr: whats wrong with 0.8.2? | 07:45 |
| inte | doesn't make any difference to me compared to the previous | 07:46 |
| inte | both are burning the cpu from time to time | 07:46 |
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| coderus_ | inte: last version is 0.8.0 | 07:47 |
| inte | ah | 07:47 |
| inte | jup | 07:47 |
| inte | 0.8.0-2 | 07:48 |
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| inte | to be precisely :) | 07:48 |
| coderus | you should not care about build number | 07:48 |
| inte | yeah but that is working for me no better or worse than the previous | 07:48 |
| coderus | it's just internal identifier | 07:48 |
| inte | coderus: jep, second rpm you made | 07:48 |
| coderus | you may not remember how 0.7.7 works | 07:48 |
| coderus | build 1 was for beta-testers | 07:49 |
| inte | no actual difference or how old was that? | 07:49 |
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| coderus | and they said everything is okay nad this version rocks | 07:49 |
| coderus | so please blame them :D | 07:49 |
| Nicd- | hehe | 07:49 |
| inte | :) | 07:49 |
| coderus | i have no resoures for wild testing app | 07:49 |
| inte | so 0.7.7 was not burning the cpu? | 07:49 |
| Nicd- | Bysmyyr: I have 0.7.7 rpm on my device | 07:50 |
| inte | do you need my logs? | 07:50 |
| coderus | can only test with my perfect home wifi and perfect 3g :) | 07:50 |
| inte | :) | 07:50 |
| Bysmyyr | Nicd-: I have it also... but tthat is way to reduce log spam | 07:50 |
| coderus | inte: no, please :D | 07:50 |
| * w00t_ sets up a cronjob to mail coderus every hour | 07:51 | |
| inte | hehe | 07:51 |
| inte | i don't see the cpu issue as a too big problem | 07:51 |
| Nicd- | w00t_: accidentally write in an infinite loop | 07:51 |
| inte | its not happening too often | 07:51 |
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| Nicd- | it's happening constantly for me | 07:51 |
| Nicd- | full cpu usage for the whole day | 07:52 |
| inte | i have lighthouse running frequently and whenever it cpu usage increase i just restart mitak | 07:52 |
| inte | but that didn't happen to me for a few days at all | 07:53 |
| inte | was mostly in wifi coverage area as well, though | 07:53 |
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| seiichiro0185 | hi, I have a problem with the latest SDK-Release. If I deploy my app to the device from the sdk I get an error that the app crashed. The Error shown is this: http://pastie.org/9342859 does anyone have an Idea what might be wrong? I removed the SDK including config and did a complete reinstall, the error stays the same. | 09:39 |
| Nicd- | are you deploying as armv7? | 09:40 |
| seiichiro0185 | yes | 09:41 |
| Nicd- | dunno if it's even possible to deploy as i486 though... | 09:41 |
| kaltsi | seiichiro0185: what kind of an application are you making? | 09:46 |
| kaltsi | seiichiro0185: does that happen with the default sailfish template project? | 09:46 |
| kaltsi | seiichiro0185: are you building with the MerSDK-SailfishOS-armv7hl kit? | 09:47 |
| seiichiro0185 | yep, it happens with a freshly created project too. The app I try is sailOTP, wich is already in harbour and openrepos and worked fine until the last update | 09:47 |
| seiichiro0185 | and I use the armv7hl kit | 09:47 |
| kaltsi | could you copy paste the whole compile output to pastebin? | 09:48 |
| seiichiro0185 | thats the paste for the template project: compilation http://pastie.org/9342887 and app output: http://pastie.org/9342891 | 09:50 |
| kaltsi | hmm thanks.. nothing wrong there, but it didn't really build anything this time | 09:53 |
| seiichiro0185 | here is a complete log including build: http://pastie.org/9342902 | 09:54 |
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| kaltsi | it only builds one file test.c? | 09:56 |
| kaltsi | test.cpp | 09:56 |
| seiichiro0185 | yes, the output is form the template project without any changes, it only has one cpp file | 09:57 |
| kaltsi | ah it was the template project.. I thought it was the otp :)= | 09:57 |
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| inte | sorry for my ignorance but: what is otp good for at all?? | 10:00 |
| inte | i saw this app, even installed it, but i still dont know what it is actually good for | 10:00 |
| kaltsi | I don't understand what's wrong with that build.. doesn't seem to be any problems | 10:00 |
| seiichiro0185 | OTP == One Time Pad, it generates temporay keys for two-factor-authentification | 10:00 |
| kaltsi | seiichiro0185: did you remove the ~/.config/SailfishAlpha4 dir before reinstalling? | 10:00 |
| inte | seiichiro0185: and what do i do with it? I mean, i enabled this two factor thing on google, received an sms and now it works | 10:01 |
| seiichiro0185 | kaltsi: yes, I removed the config and the complete SDK-Directory, so it is a complete vanilla install of the SDK with no changes | 10:01 |
| Nicd- | when I see OTP all I think of is http://learnyousomeerlang.com/what-is-otp | 10:01 |
| inte | what do i need the app for? | 10:01 |
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| inte | Nicd-: :) | 10:02 |
| kaltsi | seiichiro0185: have you done any .bashrc or .profile customization on your device.. or do you set some extra environment vars in them? | 10:02 |
| inte | Nicd-: hey we're using ofono:) | 10:02 |
| seiichiro0185 | inte: some services (like github) can enable two factor auth without sms and stuff, they give you a QR-Code you scan with the app and then the app generates a new 6-digit key every 30 seconds that you have to enter on login together with your password | 10:03 |
| Nicd- | inte: erlang otp doesn't have anything to do with telephony though :P | 10:03 |
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| seiichiro0185 | kaltsi: no, my .bashrc / .profile are untouched | 10:04 |
| inte | Nicd-: whops actually only saw the phone and read something about open :) | 10:04 |
| inte | seiichiro0185: aah thanks | 10:04 |
| kaltsi | seiichiro0185: Ãn device if you ssh as nem, what does: env | grep QPA | 10:04 |
| kaltsi | say | 10:04 |
| kaltsi | ssh as nemo | 10:04 |
| seiichiro0185 | kaltsi: QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland | 10:05 |
| inte | so you can't authenticate devices with github? Like for gmail, i only had to two-authenticate once | 10:05 |
| kaltsi | seiichiro0185: what if you try to run the binary from the command line there | 10:05 |
| seiichiro0185 | kaltsi: works fine if I start it from ssh | 10:06 |
| seiichiro0185 | it only fails if started through the SDK | 10:06 |
| kaltsi | seiichiro0185: are you sure you've configured your device correctly for the SDK? it uses ssh to run the binary | 10:06 |
| seiichiro0185 | kaltsi: pretty sure, did the config the same as it was in the last sdk version, and all the tests in the SDK-config are successfull | 10:07 |
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| seiichiro0185 | inte: authenticating a device and two factor auth are two different things. The whole point of two factor auth is that you need two factors (your password and the device with the code-genereating app) to login into a service. someone who just steals your password still cant log into your account if he doesn't have the device | 10:09 |
| kaltsi | if you just ssh from linux to the device like: ssh nemo@device_ip /opt/sdk/usr/test/bin/test | 10:09 |
| kaltsi | seiichiro0185: does that^ work? | 10:09 |
| inte | seiichiro0185: jep i understand that, therefore the first time i logged into gmail i received an sms and now it works without sms as the device is authenticated | 10:10 |
| seiichiro0185 | kaltsi: actually, that gives the same error as the sdk... | 10:10 |
| inte | so if someone steals your password and installs your app on his phone he can login? | 10:10 |
| kaltsi | seiichiro0185: then there is something in your .profile or .bashrc that resets the environment | 10:11 |
| kaltsi | seiichiro0185: please double check those | 10:11 |
| inte | or is your (unique) app-install sotosay the "registered device" | 10:11 |
| inte | still don`t get what i need the app for since it works withoug the app for gmail e.g. | 10:11 |
| seiichiro0185 | inte: no, he can't, because the app alone doesn't help. you need the secret key for generating the code which you get by scanning the QR-Code on activating the two-factor-auth. This code is only saved on the device you "authenticate" with the service this way. | 10:12 |
| inte | ah. so you only scan it once | 10:13 |
| seiichiro0185 | inte: as long as the service does two-factor-auth via sms its all fine, but there are services that don't offer it and need the app | 10:13 |
| inte | but device registration works for e.g. gmail even without scanning at all | 10:13 |
| inte | seiichiro0185: aaaaah | 10:13 |
| inte | ok | 10:13 |
| inte | thank you very much | 10:13 |
| inte | i only have this two-auth thing on facebook and gmail yet | 10:14 |
| inte | dont know if there are services (that I use) that offer this otp thing | 10:14 |
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| inte | would be nice to have on mailbox.org | 10:14 |
| inte | my email provider | 10:14 |
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| seiichiro0185 | kaltsi: the .bashrc just sources /etc/bashrc, and .profile doesn't exist | 10:16 |
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| seiichiro0185 | kaltsi: I never changed anything in the bashrc or profile.d/* in /etc | 10:17 |
| kaltsi | seiichiro0185: ok.. but this is a symptom of that, I don't know why it happens to you now | 10:17 |
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| kaltsi | seiichiro0185: could you ssh nemo@device_ip env .. and check it doesn't contain anything secret and pastebin that, I'll compare my output | 10:19 |
| seiichiro0185 | kaltsi: http://pastie.org/9342970 seems like the whole QT / Wayland variables are missing.. | 10:20 |
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| kaltsi | that's all you have? | 10:21 |
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| seiichiro0185 | yep, if I start it directly thats all | 10:21 |
| kaltsi | ok.. I've got like three pages of env vars here | 10:21 |
| seiichiro0185 | if I start it after "normal" ssh login I get a whole lot more | 10:21 |
| kaltsi | would you happen to have some .ssh/config set? | 10:21 |
| seiichiro0185 | nope, none | 10:22 |
| kaltsi | or would you happen to have rebuilt bash yourself? :p | 10:22 |
| seiichiro0185 | no, its the standard jolla bash | 10:22 |
| kaltsi | do you have .login, .environment or any other rc files bash might read? | 10:22 |
| kaltsi | you = nemo@device | 10:23 |
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| seiichiro0185 | only .bashrc and .bash_profile (which just sorces .bashrc), no .login, .environment or anything else bash might source on start | 10:24 |
| kaltsi | seiichiro0185: check do you have /etc/profile.d/developer-profile.sh | 10:28 |
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| kaltsi | it's the one that's supposed to set all the vars | 10:29 |
| seiichiro0185 | kaltsi: yes, the file is there | 10:29 |
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| kaltsi | what's the date of that file? | 10:29 |
| seiichiro0185 | 21st May 14 | 10:30 |
| kaltsi | hm I wonder how it gets its date.. mine is 16th of June | 10:30 |
| kaltsi | md5sum developer-profile.sh | 10:31 |
| kaltsi | 3c160e0921f2bd77cc00363f076e6b30 | 10:31 |
| seiichiro0185 | the one I have is 6e11e19992ddf9623e61fd46a04370fd | 10:31 |
| seiichiro0185 | so its different | 10:31 |
| kaltsi | I have an unreleased version of the device.. just a sec | 10:31 |
| seiichiro0185 | thats the content of mine: http://pastie.org/9343011 | 10:32 |
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| kaltsi | yep yours is fine.. | 10:33 |
| kaltsi | well I'm sorry but I'm out of ideas.. something in your environment is causing that file not to be sourced in a non-interactive session and then those envs are not set | 10:34 |
| kaltsi | I'm not sure if the host side ssh settings can affect this | 10:34 |
| kaltsi | anyways qt creator is not using the ssh command, but its own ssh library | 10:35 |
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| seiichiro0185 | k, thanks for your help anyways, I'll try to debug this further.. | 10:35 |
| kaltsi | btw I'm not saying you've changed anything.. but if you've ever installed anything from openrepos, maybe one of those might have modified a file.. there could be a 'filename.rpmsave' if that has happened | 10:37 |
| kaltsi | but that depends on how well the openrepo package has been created.. again just a theory | 10:37 |
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| m4r0v3r | hello, am trying to set up a layout for a simple form, what would be the best to use? would it be best to do this via anchoring, or use the qt quick layout api? | 10:45 |
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| m4r0v3r | also how can i mkae listview and the pull down menu coexist, since when I attempt to pull down the list view scrolls, i've seen it done in the search example but no luck doing it myself | 10:49 |
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| goroboro | does anyone know how I can best interact with timed to create my own events? basically I am after a way to schedule stuff like you can do with cron | 10:57 |
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| stephg | goroboro: there is a commandline client if you want to mess around | 11:06 |
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| goroboro | stephg: timed-qt5-tools thanks... installing now to take a look | 11:08 |
| * goroboro misses regular cron :) | 11:08 | |
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| stephg | well timed has more features :) | 11:10 |
| stephg | be warned though, from what I remember the syntax is a little ideosyncratic ;) | 11:10 |
| goroboro | with features comes crazy complexity | 11:10 |
| goroboro | I'm checking out the command line client... damn... learning curve ahead | 11:11 |
| seiichiro0185 | kaltsi: I found the problem: somehow I had two instances of bash, the 3.2.x from jolla and a version 4.3. No idea how there could be 2 versions of bash with the same name in parallel, but after pkcon install bash only the "correct" one remained and now the sdk-deployment works... Thanks again for your help! | 11:12 |
| kaltsi | seiichiro0185: ok interesting.. but explains the problem :) | 11:12 |
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| pp | 3rd party bash is a bad idea :-) | 11:18 |
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| coderus | m4r0v3r: simple layout with text inputs is done with column | 11:23 |
| m4r0v3r | coderus: ah I see, so I was slightly overcomplicated things lol | 11:24 |
| coderus | pp: i'm using 4.3 bash because of completion. 3.2 bash sucks. | 11:24 |
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| kaltsi | the jolla, or actually Mer, bash has been built with an option that sources dotfiles also in non-interactive sessions, which is not standard | 11:26 |
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| inte | kaltsi: my bash doesnt source .profile at all? | 11:28 |
| inte | how can that be done? | 11:28 |
| kaltsi | use .bash_profile | 11:28 |
| inte | didn't work either the last time i tried | 11:29 |
| inte | only for ssh | 11:29 |
| inte | but not for fingerterm | 11:29 |
| kaltsi | ahh fingerterm.. | 11:29 |
| kaltsi | don't know about it to be honest | 11:29 |
| inte | .oO(ok I should have been more precise) | 11:29 |
| inte | ok | 11:29 |
| inte | thanks | 11:29 |
| kaltsi | np :P | 11:30 |
| inte | i found a rather strange workaround on tmo | 11:30 |
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| inte | simply change the fingerterm icon to invoke fingertem -e ssh nemo@localhost | 11:31 |
| inte | and put a key on the phone | 11:31 |
| inte | then fingerterm would always ssh into the device and thus .bash_profile gets sourced :) | 11:31 |
| kaltsi | hehe :) | 11:31 |
| pp | coderus: suppose one that installs /bin/bash43 would be fine | 11:32 |
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| coderus | would be fine if jolla will use latest version. but there is some licensing stufff afaik | 12:08 |
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| Aard | might be new bash is gplv3 | 12:10 |
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| dv2 | hello? | 13:13 |
| dv2 | I have a question | 13:13 |
| mikma_ | good for you, we are so delighted | 13:14 |
| SpeedEvil | I have a flavour. | 13:14 |
| dv2 | so there will be the Sailfish launcher for android soon | 13:14 |
| SpeedEvil | dv2: What do you mean by that? | 13:14 |
| dv2 | And I hope it willl be open source, too | 13:14 |
| SpeedEvil | I suspect the answer is no. | 13:14 |
| dv2 | so will there be a way to download it without googleplay? | 13:14 |
| SpeedEvil | Sailfish is not an app. | 13:15 |
| dv2 | I mean the launcher | 13:15 |
| SpeedEvil | You can't install it under android. | 13:15 |
| dv2 | I know, the launcher for android. Fake Sailfish | 13:15 |
| SK_work | dv2: there are shared links here and there | 13:18 |
| inte | dv2 try to get it through http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/ | 13:18 |
| dv2 | okay thanks inte! | 13:19 |
| dv2 | but would it be possible that the launcher will be available on f-droid? | 13:19 |
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| SpeedEvil | hmm | 13:44 |
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| coderus | it can be available on yandex store :) | 13:54 |
| entil | will mitakuuluu2 be available on the jolla store?-) | 13:55 |
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| m4r0v3r | does anybody know how I can make the listview and the pulldown menus coexist | 14:01 |
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| jake9xx | m4r0v3r: pulldown menu, you mean pulley? | 14:23 |
| jake9xx | define them inside the page as separate items, no problems there | 14:23 |
| jake9xx | and if you ever thing sailfishos listview is troublesome or alike.. take a deep dive with Android ListView :) | 14:23 |
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| m4r0v3r | probably wont bother with android | 14:27 |
| m4r0v3r | and yeah pulley menu | 14:27 |
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| m4r0v3r | ill give it a got cheers | 14:27 |
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| jake9xx | there are some examples in the sailfishos.org | 14:30 |
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| m4r0v3r | ah still no luck not sure how to duplicate the movement of the menu that when am at the top of the listview and i pull down the pulley menu activates, otherwise its just normal scrolling | 15:02 |
| jake9xx | you can trigger it in the event callback | 15:03 |
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| b0bben | hey all | 16:07 |
| b0bben | i've ported GagBook to Sailfish, but it uses webkitwidgets for web scraping, and widgets aren't allowed on the Jolla appstore | 16:08 |
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| b0bben | i'd really like the app to be in the official app store, but would need to find another way to scrape pages | 16:08 |
| b0bben | any hints? | 16:08 |
| ruskie | cover? | 16:11 |
| ruskie | timed service? | 16:11 |
| stephg | b0bben: there must be a lower-level c++ lib that'd do the scraping you need to? | 16:12 |
| stephg | what do webkitwidgets themselves use? | 16:12 |
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| b0bben | stephg: well, they use webkit, which can do DOM (since it's a browser) | 16:13 |
| b0bben | one option would be to convert the HTML to XML with libtidy | 16:13 |
| b0bben | then use XML parser to get the info | 16:14 |
| b0bben | i have no idea how to include libtidy in my project (and in a harbour-friendly way) | 16:14 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 16:51 |
| tortoisedoc | how long usually after an app passes harbour qa to when it's available on Jolla store? | 16:51 |
| tortoisedoc | Jonni : ping | 16:52 |
| tortoisedoc | Jonni : (i am asking you as you seem to know) is there a chance in helping for the paid app support into harbour? I.e. beta-testing etc | 16:53 |
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| b0bben | anyone knows how to use share dialog from Gallery in own apps? | 22:40 |
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| jake9xx | b0bben: check gallery sources? | 23:32 |
| b0bben | jake9xx: i did, it's using bunch of weird stuff not in the apis :/ | 23:33 |
| b0bben | is it me or is the Dev mode really shaky in the latest release | 23:34 |
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