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| coderus | https://together.jolla.com/question/54393/please-release-gstreamer-10/ | 00:39 |
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| tuukkah | Naranek, you should make a web page about RouteSkipper so that hsl can advertise a jolla app :-) | 06:03 |
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| m4g0g | good morning | 06:12 |
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| Naranek | tuukkah: umh.. are they advertising? | 06:50 |
| tuukkah | Naranek, not much but at least we have https://www.hsl.fi/en/timetables-and-routes/mobile-apps | 06:51 |
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| elcaset | yes! Someone brought a Jolla phone from Europe to Debconf here in Portland, OR USA. So, I got to look at it a bit. very nice. | 06:58 |
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| Naranek | tuukkah: there's the github page :p Maybe harbour pops up a web interface some day.. right now all my extra time goes to improving the actual app. Gotta get the realtime data integrated before Qt 5.2 is released. | 07:03 |
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| tuukkah | Naranek, where is the github? i searched for it the other day but didn't find | 07:04 |
| Naranek | tuukkah: https://github.com/naranek/routeskipper should be in the app info as well | 07:04 |
| tuukkah | and let me know if i can help with our data and apis | 07:04 |
| tuukkah | Naranek, thanks! | 07:05 |
| tuukkah | Naranek, if you can do a wifi scan, you can do positioning based on our wifi aps in the vehicles and the metro track | 07:06 |
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| Naranek | tuukkah: thanks for the tip! | 07:09 |
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| m4g0g_ | hi | 07:27 |
| m4g0g_ | i repeat my question one more time: how i can spoiler images in Text with rich text format and all images inside <img> tag | 07:30 |
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| Naranek | m4g0g_: You could try editing the text using this as a reference: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8096639/javascript-regxp-search-and-replace-tags-in-string | 07:34 |
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| m4g0g_ | Naranek: is it s problem, that Text inside delegate and all data from c++ model? | 07:37 |
| Naranek | m4g0g_: I don't have experience with C++, so I don't know. sorry. I think you could still write some javascript to sanitize the input you get from C++ though? | 07:39 |
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| m4g0g_ | i mean: can i change in qml data from c++? | 07:42 |
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| Naranek | are there currently any harbour approved ways to notify user? I'm thinking of the notifications window or a bar at the top of the screen. | 08:39 |
| Naranek | QML+JS solution would be a plus ;) | 08:40 |
| SK_work | Naranek: several ways | 08:40 |
| tbr | for the latter there is either a library (not sure if approved) or a dbus call that you construct yourself | 08:40 |
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| SK_work | 1. use DBus and read notifications specifications from nemo qml plugin notifications | 08:41 |
| SK_work | 2. embed the nemo qml plugin notifications in your app | 08:41 |
| tbr | what he said, so much more clear | 08:41 |
| SK_work | https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-notifications | 08:41 |
| Naranek | thanks a lot :) | 08:42 |
| Naranek | hopefully nemo dbus api is friendlier than the network-manager one | 08:44 |
| SK_work | Naranek: it is actually freedesktop API | 08:44 |
| SK_work | but either you use the freedesktop API wih nemo specific bits | 08:45 |
| SK_work | OR you use nemo plugin | 08:45 |
| SK_work | (I recommand you the latter) | 08:45 |
| Naranek | oh | 08:45 |
| Naranek | allright | 08:45 |
| SK_work | (especially, you could static link nemo if you are doing open source) | 08:45 |
| SK_work | (so much easier) | 08:45 |
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| alin | ok... stupid question.. is there any way to force a list in qml to update itself? | 08:56 |
| alin | actually to trigger it | 08:56 |
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| SK_work | alin: how do you display that list ? | 08:59 |
| SK_work | qml model ? | 08:59 |
| SK_work | c++ . | 08:59 |
| SK_work | , | 08:59 |
| SK_work | ? | 08:59 |
| alin | SK_work: qml... thought I said... but I missed it | 08:59 |
| alin | SK_work: practically what needs to do is to react to when I add and delete and element from it | 09:00 |
| alin | SK_work: code is here https://github.com/alinelena/SailBusDublin/blob/master/qml/pages/EnterNumber.qml | 09:00 |
| SK_work | where do this comes from SailBusDublin.getSettingNList("favourites") | 09:01 |
| alin | SK_work: c++ | 09:02 |
| alin | SK_work: A singleton | 09:02 |
| SK_work | yeah, why setting an int in the model ? | 09:02 |
| alin | SK_work: just followed the example for listview | 09:02 |
| SK_work | alin: ok | 09:03 |
| SK_work | bad idea | 09:03 |
| SK_work | using an int for a model is usually for quick hacks or displaying some stuff that don't carry meaningful data | 09:04 |
| SK_work | better use a QML ListModel | 09:04 |
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| alin | SK_work: I will need to learn how to create it then | 09:06 |
| SK_work | alin: describes how your application components works together | 09:06 |
| SK_work | what the singleton provides etc. | 09:06 |
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| faenil | hola chicos o/ | 09:26 |
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| tbr | mooo-cha-cha | 09:33 |
| tbr | how's your drive recovery going faenil? | 09:33 |
| faenil | tbr: I think I recovered everything, no need for rescue tools, only a livecd | 09:34 |
| tbr | \o/ | 09:34 |
| faenil | yeah :) reinstalling everything now | 09:35 |
| SK_work | faenil: yaaaay | 09:35 |
| SK_work | new disk and all | 09:35 |
| SK_work | cool | 09:35 |
| SK_work | good luck | 09:35 |
| faenil | yeah, thanks | 09:36 |
| faenil | is there any news regarding ETA of the new update? beginning/half/end of sept? | 09:37 |
| faenil | (I read the features roadmap on ML) | 09:37 |
| alin | is there any way to tranfer files with jolla via xmpp? | 09:37 |
| SK_work | alin: no | 09:40 |
| SK_work | faenil: no | 09:40 |
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| tbr | alin: when it comes to xmpp features, I'd recommend to look at what works in telepathy/gabble. If it's there it might be possible to somehow add it to messaging. | 09:45 |
| Naranek | mr negative ;) | 09:45 |
| tbr | e.g. xmpp jingle _might_ be possible to make to work | 09:45 |
| alin | tbr: that is why I asked... I use kde telepathy (and it works) | 09:46 |
| tbr | alin: ok, then it would need patching of the messaging app, but I think that's closed | 09:47 |
| tbr | alin: maybe something that we should bring up with Stskeeps and at a community meeting as that has a lot of potential to be extended in useful ways | 09:47 |
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| alin | tbr: for sure that... | 10:33 |
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| nyuszika7h | can I install Sailfish OS over my existing CyanogenMod installation on my Nexus 5? ( https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/Install_SailfishOS_for_hammerhead ) | 11:03 |
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| SaberAltria | @coderus | 11:11 |
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| alin | SK_work: ok... had a look at the list model... a little bit of an overkill for something as simple as what I want to achieve... | 11:13 |
| alin | would be nice to have a way to force a reload of an element | 11:13 |
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| m4g0g | Any info about next update? | 11:15 |
| SaberAltria | @coderus | 11:16 |
| tadzik | there's stuff in meeting minutes | 11:16 |
| Nicd- | m4g0g: changelog was already posted | 11:17 |
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| m4g0g | Nicd-: where is? maillist or tjc? | 11:17 |
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| Nicd- | m4g0g: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-August/004939.html | 11:18 |
| m4g0g | thx | 11:18 |
| nyuszika7h | uh I flashed Sailfish OS and the screen is completely glitched | 11:19 |
| nyuszika7h | oh nvm it's temporary | 11:19 |
| nyuszika7h | it's ok now | 11:20 |
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| m4g0g | not so many changes ( | 11:21 |
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| Wnt | Nicd-: I would not call that message a changelog :D "it is an intent of the release content and not a promise." | 11:42 |
| Nicd- | that's true | 11:42 |
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| SK_work | alin: not overkill as (it seems) that what you are doing is just not respecting the MVC model | 11:59 |
| alin | SK_work: I have no idea what is MVC | 12:00 |
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| m4g0g | RichText can't be elided? | 12:39 |
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| m4g0g | yes. Fuck | 12:40 |
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| vgrade | \o | 13:13 |
| vgrade | is there a way to import contacts from vcard? | 13:14 |
| faenil | vgrade: isn't there an option in Settings->contacts? (iirc) | 13:15 |
| faenil | vgrade: Settings->Apps->People sorry | 13:15 |
| SK_work | vgrade: put your vcard in /home/nemo | 13:16 |
| SK_work | ALL.vcf | 13:16 |
| SK_work | and in settings -> apps -> people you sill see the option to import just like faenil said | 13:16 |
| SK_work | :) | 13:16 |
| vgrade | faenil: thanks, I'm doing some answers for xda forum thread | 13:17 |
| vgrade | cheers guys | 13:17 |
| faenil | vgrade: awesome :) np | 13:17 |
| faenil | which thread btw? | 13:17 |
| vgrade | faenil: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/rom-sailfish-os-alpha-t2841266 | 13:17 |
| faenil | ty | 13:18 |
| vgrade | lots of new users there, so I want to give them good support | 13:18 |
| faenil | sure, keep rocking :) | 13:19 |
| vgrade | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55039986&postcount=199 | 13:22 |
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| SaberAltria | Hey | 13:45 |
| SaberAltria | Anyone know how to show time stamp on old received phone call in the phone call log ? | 13:46 |
| SaberAltria | Now it just show Tuesday, Saturday for older phone call but not the exact time | 13:46 |
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| m4g0g | Do you have an idea how to emulate elide for RichText? | 13:54 |
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| jalomann | I updated to SDK 1407 and emulator doesn't fully start-up. Was there a magic for this? | 14:48 |
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| kaltsi | jalomann: do you get a black screen or how does it not fully start up? | 14:57 |
| kaltsi | jalomann: if it's black screen thingy then the first item here might be the cause | 14:59 |
| kaltsi | https://sailfishos.org/wiki/SDK_Alpha_Qt5_Known_Issues#Emulator | 14:59 |
| kaltsi | fix is to check your BIOS for the vt-x or similar virtualization options and enable them if they are disabled | 15:00 |
| jalomann | Yes it is black screen. I read it also. I am checking bios settings now. | 15:00 |
| kaltsi | ok :) | 15:00 |
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| jalomann | Unfortunately my bios doesn't have setting for virtualization. | 15:03 |
| kaltsi | what kind of a computer is it? | 15:04 |
| kaltsi | cpu/motherboard? | 15:04 |
| kaltsi | bios? | 15:04 |
| jalomann | MSI GT70 | 15:04 |
| jalomann | bios American Megatrend | 15:04 |
| kaltsi | jalomann: this could be related https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=158790.0 | 15:07 |
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| jalomann | Thanks. I'll check it out. | 15:08 |
| kaltsi | jalomann: bios upgrade might be required if I read that correctly | 15:08 |
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| Armadillo | is there a straightforward way to implement a version information on QML pages? I found a discussion on the mailing list, but first I can't get it to work and second there was mentioned that this only works if you do a clean build and you change the files where the version gets transported from the .pro file to the QML pages | 15:39 |
| SK_work | Armadillo: from the pro file to QML pages you need at least 2 steps | 15:40 |
| SK_work | from .pro file to a #defines macro | 15:40 |
| SK_work | inside C++, from macro to QML root context | 15:40 |
| SK_work | and in QML to display that root context value | 15:40 |
| SK_work | yes, it's not simple | 15:41 |
| SK_work | painful even | 15:41 |
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| Armadillo | hm | 15:42 |
| Armadillo | http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.sailfishos.devel/3866 | 15:42 |
| Armadillo | I found this and tried it | 15:43 |
| Armadillo | but the qml variable couldn't been found at the pages | 15:43 |
| Armadillo | it#s always undefined | 15:43 |
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| Armadillo | I'm really bad at C++, so I haven#t tried to really debug it, because I hoped someone could give me a fast solution | 15:46 |
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| Armadillo | oh, now I see, that the version variable is not defined in the code example from the mailing list, maybe this is the simple solution. I'll try it later :) | 15:48 |
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| Armadillo | in the c++ code I mean | 15:48 |
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| kimmoli | /wi 11 | 15:56 |
| kimmoli | Armadillo: i did add systemcall to pro file to delete object file which uses that define | 15:58 |
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| kimmoli | so it gets rebuild everytime | 15:58 |
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| Armadillo | kimmoli: is there a way to clean the build, to test if the implementation of the version thing works as expected? e.x. clean build and do a rebuilt? | 18:32 |
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| kimmoli | ? | 18:32 |
| kimmoli | clean project and deploy? | 18:33 |
| Armadillo | you mentioned that you added a systemcall to remove the object file | 18:33 |
| kimmoli | yes, i have used such sometimes | 18:33 |
| Armadillo | ok | 18:33 |
| kimmoli | dont recall is that currently in any of my repos | 18:34 |
| kimmoli | but i use that version thing in every project, its in my qtcreator template | 18:35 |
| Armadillo | oh ok | 18:36 |
| Armadillo | independent of the system call is it the same/similar code, which was mentioned on the mailing list? | 18:37 |
| kimmoli | similar iirc | 18:37 |
| Armadillo | allright, thanks :) | 18:37 |
| kimmoli | through pro syscalls you can get also git tag/commit etc info there... | 18:40 |
| coderus | just use QProcess for /usr/bin/rpm | 18:40 |
| coderus | easier and more stable :) | 18:40 |
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| Armadillo | good hint, I've already seen this on another project | 18:42 |
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| m4g0g | has somebody an experience with elide rich text? | 19:01 |
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| m4g0g | Ok. Who use patchmanager? | 19:07 |
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| m4g0g | guys, how I can show the same notification as for network problems? | 19:47 |
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| Armadillo | have a look into the conf files under /usr/share/lipstick/notificationcategories | 19:51 |
| Armadillo | network.error.conf could be the correct one | 19:51 |
| m4g0g | Armadillo: how I can show it? | 19:53 |
| Armadillo | harbour ready? | 19:54 |
| Armadillo | if yes, you need to ship the nemomobile notifications qml plugin with your app | 19:54 |
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| m4g0g | Armadillo: I don't think so, but i want to show notification with some text and don't want to create my own item for this | 19:56 |
| Armadillo | well, I'm using this: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-notifications/blob/master/src/notification.cpp | 19:57 |
| Armadillo | as a non harbour app you can use the plugin without integrating it yourself, just import it | 19:58 |
| Armadillo | how to use it, you can find in the qml sources of several Jolla apps | 19:59 |
| Armadillo | on the notification.cpp starting with line 75 there is another small documentation, which helped me a lot | 19:59 |
| m4g0g | Armadillo: thx | 20:00 |
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| Armadillo | haha great | 20:24 |
| Armadillo | it took me 45 minutes to realize, that I have to deploy the app as rpm package to the emulator vm, to get the version through the rpm systemcall :D | 20:25 |
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| Armadillo | it seems it's time to go to bed... | 20:26 |
| Shinryuu | ;) | 20:26 |
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| rubdos | I had Google Play installed on my Jolla, but now Google has this backdoor where they can push any code to my phone. (Google Play on your desktop browser has a button to install apps remotely). I see this as a backdoor and an exploit. Any clue how I can disable this feature? | 21:59 |
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| rubdos | I removed google play and google settings stuff, but that doesn't help | 22:01 |
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| keithzg | Are you sure it doesn't help? Have you tried actually pushing an app to install removely, and has it? | 22:31 |
| keithzg | Google is actually not very good at automatically detecting devices that are no longer registered/accessible (admittedly it's a hard problem to solve correctly). So, rubdos, I wouldn't be surprised if Google still listed your device but it wasn't actually possible to push anything via that method. | 22:32 |
| rubdos | keithzg, tried to, indeed | 22:33 |
| rubdos | I still see com.google processes listed | 22:33 |
| rubdos | and I'm able to push an app | 22:34 |
| rubdos | I don't mind my jolla still being listed. That's a sign for me that google didn't notice, which is good :P | 22:34 |
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| keithzg | I don't have my Jolla with me today, and forget the exact path the Android stuff goes into, but are you sure there aren't any com.google apps still installed in Android's data/app/ and system/app/ folders? | 22:38 |
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| rubdos | keithzg, I just erased them all | 22:42 |
| rubdos | I think it works right now :) | 22:42 |
| rubdos | or "it stopped working", whatever you want to call it | 22:42 |
| keithzg | heh | 22:42 |
| rubdos | great. It's okay now. I can sleep | 22:45 |
| rubdos | goodnight :) | 22:45 |
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