Wednesday, 2014-09-10

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tbrryukafalz: ah, hm, let's hope we figure out something for the nexus 4.03:05
ryukafalztbr: I'm not sure what the blocker currently is for bluetooth on n4, never gotten an answer on that one03:06
tbrryukafalz: so at least time setting works for me and I'm now seeing a watch face03:06
ryukafalzGPS is blocked by closed code in geoclue-hybris03:06
tbrryukafalz: the device came out about the time of the android switch to the broadcomm stack03:07
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ryukafalztbr: Hmm, so is hybris not able to use broadcom drivers or something?03:08
tbrI vaguely remember that there was no bluez adaptation ever03:08
tbrthat part wouldn't need hybris if there was a working bluez03:08
ryukafalzohh hmm03:08
tbrit would be just a recompile03:08
ryukafalzI see, there's bluez and then there's bluedroid...03:09
tbryes03:09
ryukafalzdangit, why does bluetooth in linux have to be so screwy =/03:09
tbrI suspect it's not much of a problem once someone sits down with it03:10
ryukafalzlike bluez5 doesn't have HFP support for example03:10
tbryeah03:10
ryukafalzwhich is, you know, what all bluetooth headsets use03:10
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ryukafalzthough after looking it up it looks like that's supposed to be implemented by other utilities now03:11
ryukafalzmakes it difficult to use with anything other than ofono though03:12
ryukafalzanyway, I'll have to read up on the current state of bluez and bluedroid03:13
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ryukafalztbr: wrt metawatch, getting notifications doesn't seem like it'd be too bad assuming sailfish is using libnotify (I think it is?)03:16
tbryes, it's just listening to dbus03:17
ryukafalzyeah03:17
* ryukafalz wishes there were up-to-date protocol docs03:18
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tbrryukafalz: heh, lookitthat, former colleague of mine wrote something up: http://www.bluez.org/bluez-for-android-status-update/03:41
tbrtoo bad it is bluez5, so not that sailfish compatible03:42
ryukafalzoh, is sailfish still using bluez4?03:42
ryukafalzit's also AOSP 4.4.2, which I don't believe is currently supported either...03:43
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tbrryukafalz: it's an still open question which route sailfish is going to take. It's pretty much either bluedroid or bluez5.04:16
ryukafalztbr: From what I've read about bluedroid so far it's... not so great04:19
ryukafalzmostly this but it's possibly biased http://lwn.net/Articles/597293/04:19
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ryukafalzin any case though, I think it's best to stay close to the common desktop linux stack04:19
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stephgmorning06:59
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satmdI need help :(08:39
satmdAfter using nightsilence I'm no longer to control the sound volume08:39
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satmdit always playes at full volume08:39
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satmdhow can I fix that?08:39
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coderussatmd: you'd better ask developer here: http://www.codingsubmarine.com/projects/jolla-nightsilence/09:02
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satmdeven after removing that package, killing pulseaudio and rm ~/.config/pulse/... && reboot09:11
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satmdcan someone provide me with his ~/.config/pulse/8..* files? these contain the exact sound configuration09:21
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satmdwent the factory reset route09:47
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dr_gogeta86Stskeeps, good morning10:14
dr_gogeta86http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/97126865868/systemd10:14
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tortoisedocnazanin : will quickbar go out of qa today?10:43
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nazanintortoisedoc: let me check10:44
nazanintortoisedoc: you haven't submitted yet?10:44
tortoisedocnazanin : yes I have already10:44
tortoisedocand i have a new package coming up10:44
tortoisedocbut i cant resubmit as it is locked in qa :/10:44
nazanintortoisedoc: yup, I know... when did you submit?10:45
tortoisedocsunday eve iirc10:45
tortoisedocmight have been monday also10:45
tortoisedocactually monday10:45
nazanintortoisedoc: I've tested version 0.21-89 yesterday, anything newer than this version?10:46
tortoisedocyes, 0.22-90 currentyl uploaded to dashboard but not submitted :)10:46
tortoisedoc(due to qa lock)10:47
tortoisedoc(of ver 0.21-89)10:47
nazanintortoisedoc: yeah, I approved it yesterday, it got stuck in going out to Store, it'll be done shortly and then you can submit your update:)10:47
tortoisedocwow thanks :)10:47
tortoisedocnazanin : out of curiosity, what do you think about the new functionality to swipe the quickbar in from the side?10:48
nazanintortoisedoc: I've also included a message for you for that new feature, you can read it in Harbour :)10:48
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tortoisedocnazanin : hmm not in my inbox yet10:49
tortoisedocwill wait :)10:49
nazanintortoisedoc: yes, please wait :)10:49
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tortoisedocyup :)10:50
nazanintortoisedoc: should be out now?10:54
tortoisedocnazanin : yes its here :)10:54
tortoisedochmm perhaps it would have been better to reject this version..10:55
tortoisedocgiven it is so problematic for users to understand the new usage10:55
tortoisedocit should have been considered better , that is true :S10:55
nazanintortoisedoc: there was no strict reason to reject... just you needed to add info about the swiping for users10:55
tortoisedocok I will add it today and then resubmit10:55
nazanintortoisedoc: if you can have an update with the info about the swiping and such today, that'll be cool10:56
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tortoisedocnot before the eve tho :/10:56
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nazaninthanks for letting me know about it :)10:56
tortoisedocwelcome :)10:57
tortoisedocthanks for the high availability to my questions :D10:57
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nazaninI try :P10:57
* satmd sighs11:01
satmdeven a factory resets leaves me unable to mute the phone11:02
satmd:(11:02
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satmdit seems that this behaviour is by design when I look at all the search results :/11:06
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HBP_??11:39
stephg!!11:42
Merbotstephg: Error: "!" is not a valid command.11:42
16WAAD345stephg: Error: "!" is not a valid command.11:42
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Nicd-stupid bots :)11:46
stephghehe11:46
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kimmoligoogling merbot; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCsQsxEgwc412:02
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ilpianistahi all, what are the steps to publish app on the store?14:06
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Nicd-ilpianista: publish it on harbour.jolla.com14:14
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ilpianistaoh it's so simple :-P14:15
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r0kk3rztheres a faq on the harbour site14:20
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cameriswho was responsible for the harbour qa? Some files where not uploaded, so I submitted it again, could you just ignore the first submit?15:52
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SK_worknazanin: ^15:56
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EaxBinHi there, I may just be blind as a bat. But, can someone point me to some kind of API documentation for SailfishOS? Specifically, sending text messages is what I am looking for. Thanks!15:57
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r0kk3rzcoderus is our API documentation at the moment i think16:00
EaxBinr0kk3rz: Can you provide a link for that? Not sure what I'm finding on google is right16:01
r0kk3rzhe isnt a link, he's a community member :P16:01
r0kk3rzwas a joke16:01
EaxBinAh, ok :) New here ;)16:01
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SK_worksending SMS16:03
SK_workhum16:03
SK_workyou need telepathy16:03
SK_workmaybe check DBus too16:03
SK_workqdbus | grep telepathy ?16:03
SK_workqt messaging don't work IIRC on sailfish16:03
SK_workbut EaxBin why sending smses ?16:04
SK_workyou can also Qt.openUrlExternally("sms://something")16:04
EaxBinSK_work: I'm interested in find a way to send texts from my laptop instead of from my phone every time :)16:04
SK_workthe last solution will open a dialog16:04
SK_workEaxBin: haha16:04
r0kk3rzi think theres an app for that16:04
SK_work1. you need a privileged daemon16:04
SK_work2. either telepathy or dbus16:04
SK_workor maybe use this ? https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-messages16:05
SK_workread the jolla-messages QML files to take inspiration ?16:05
EaxBinThanks SK_work :)16:05
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r0kk3rzeax https://openrepos.net/content/titilambert/squilla16:10
r0kk3rzWith Squilla you can send and receive SMS from/to your computer using Bonjour/XMPP.16:10
r0kk3rzsounds like what you want16:10
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HBP_hmh how to sync google contacts immediately?16:13
HBP_Selecting sync from the account settings doesn't help16:13
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nazanincameris: what is the name of the app?16:29
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camerisnazanin: harbour-the_spoils_companion16:45
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coderusr0kk3rz: i'm sorry, what you talking about when mention me?17:34
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coderususe telepathy-qt5 better :)17:34
coderusit's highly documented17:35
coderususe dbus only as backup plan :D17:35
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r0kk3rzlike i said, api documentation17:36
r0kk3rz:P17:36
coderusr0kk3rz: ah :D i'm not native englishman, so i can miss some jokes :D17:36
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eaxThanks r0kk3rz :)18:14
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r0kk3rzeax, ive never used it so i have no idea whether its any good18:19
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r0kk3rzcode might be on github somewhere18:20
r0kk3rzsee how it works anyway18:20
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eaxWilco, thanks18:21
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pingwineuhello19:33
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pingwineuanyone free to chat?19:36
SpeedEvilIf you've got a question - ask it19:36
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tortoisedochmm19:55
tortoisedocdoes anyone possibly know19:55
tortoisedocif DEFINE macros are usable in rcc files?19:55
pingwineui`m not sure19:56
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coderustortoisedoc: no macroses in RCC afaik :)19:56
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coderusload different rcc for different platforms19:57
tortoisedocactually i plan to include different features based on defines19:57
tortoisedochmm19:57
tortoisedoci could probably load them dynamically19:58
tortoisedocand link them with rcc compiler19:58
tortoisedocrather than through qmake19:58
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coderuswhat features you including in rcc?..19:58
tortoisedocnot in rcc19:58
tortoisedocin app :P19:58
coderusso, what problem with rcc?19:59
tortoisedocrcc contains just a part of the necessary code for the feature19:59
tortoisedocqml19:59
tortoisedocI want to conditionally include qml code in rcc :P19:59
coderuswhat a problem to keep all qmls?19:59
tortoisedoctesting purpouses19:59
coderustesting macroses in rcc? :D20:00
tortoisedoc:D20:00
tortoisedocnoooo20:00
coderus:D20:00
tortoisedoc;_;20:00
tortoisedoctoo late no energy to explain left -_-20:00
pingwineuWHAT IS THAT?!20:00
coderuspingwineu: what?20:01
coderustortoisedoc: i just entered home :)20:01
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tortoisedoccoderus : what you mean?20:01
tortoisedocback from work? :P20:02
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pingwineuwhy do you need rcc macros for that purpose20:04
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coderustortoisedoc: i mean its 02:06 here, but i just arrived to home :)20:06
tortoisedoc:D20:06
tortoisedocbeen out partying again eh? ;)20:07
coderuspingwineu: we're just joking :)20:07
coderustortoisedoc: :D :D20:07
coderuslate movie + pizza after :)20:07
pingwineu@coderus, Gzz, don`t scare me like that20:07
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pingwineuanyway, congratulations20:08
pingwineusailfish ui is simply GREAT20:08
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pingwineui`m serious now20:13
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