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| menoetius | giucam: you are absolutely right of course; now I have access. the phone shows up as Recovery in my network under the other addrees (.67), hence the confusion. thanks for the help! | 05:51 |
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| ArtVandalae | ^^ marxistvegan @ 00:50 (GMT+10) talked about "apk support [existing] on the nexus 4". I wasn't aware of any solutions being in place? i.e. from what I remember, you can't purchase AlienDalvik software as a consumer, and AFAIK, there's no FOSS solutions out there. What was he/she referring to? Or was it purely speculative? Sorry for the loaded question. | 06:27 |
| Stskeeps | there's not currently any android runtime on the sfos for nexus 4 images, no | 06:28 |
| Stskeeps | and no foss solutions there currently | 06:28 |
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| krnlyng | hi filippz :) how's the n9 kernel progressing? | 08:10 |
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| filippz | hi krnlyng - kernel is in state described in the wiki (https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/N9_Kernel_update_project) | 08:29 |
| filippz | it's packaged (http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/filippz/latest_armv7hl/) and boots Sailfish 1.0.8.19, and latest nemomobile | 08:30 |
| krnlyng | nice! | 08:30 |
| filippz | of course it steel needs inux-firmware-ti-connectivity from http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/testing:/hw:/ti:/omap3:/n950-n9/latest_armv7hl | 08:30 |
| filippz | btw - should this be in sailfishos-porters? | 08:31 |
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| coderus | wow | 09:23 |
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| coderus | need to find my N9 | 09:41 |
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| filippz | coderus: you are the person who probably can figure out this one: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/o4qj5uubgdknhdg/AADrVunLSUnrbrZIGj9ScCbNa | 09:44 |
| filippz | lipstick creates it's screen vertically and with reversed x and y size | 09:45 |
| coderus | filippz: you need to patch framebuffer to have initial portrait orientation | 09:46 |
| coderus | sailfish expecting to have portrait-oriented display | 09:46 |
| coderus | but harmattan have landscape | 09:46 |
| filippz | fbset then? | 09:46 |
| coderus | i tried it before, but it doesnt actually changing anything | 09:46 |
| filippz | hm, nemo lipstick works OK, maybe I'll try glacier for Sailfish just to check... | 09:47 |
| filippz | anyway - I have to go for now | 09:48 |
| coderus | sailfish lipstick qml doesnt respect framebuffer orientation | 09:48 |
| coderus | it expecting portrait orientation only | 09:48 |
| coderus | try if you can patch framebuffer | 09:48 |
| coderus | if not i'll try to patch lipstick qmls to rotate clipping | 09:49 |
| coderus | but framebuffer rotation would be better :) | 09:49 |
| filippz | bbl, ty coderus! | 09:49 |
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| Morpog_PC___ | sounds like real progress | 10:11 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.8.13 released with fixed android account import and localization updates. Check for updates! | 14:38 |
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| krnlyng | i've just tried to install a more recent version of wayland (current git and branch 1.2) but it crashes as soon as i try to start an application, is it known why that happens? | 15:10 |
| filippz | krnlyng: use my build from merprojects | 15:11 |
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| filippz | https://api.merproject.org/package/show/home:filippz:devel/qtwayland to be exact | 15:12 |
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| krnlyng | filippz: thanks! so how did you fix the crash? :) | 15:13 |
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| filippz | krnlyng: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2014-09-25.log.html#t2014-09-25T10:26:57 | 15:15 |
| filippz | it was all sletta :) | 15:15 |
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| krnlyng | filippz: i am confused, i can't find QWaylandSurfaceItem anywhere in wayland? | 15:25 |
| filippz | crash was not in wayland itself but in qtwayland. Maybe you have another problem? | 15:26 |
| krnlyng | filippz: i tried updating wayland itself | 15:27 |
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| filippz | Still, you can try my build to see if it makes any difference | 15:28 |
| filippz | bbl | 15:29 |
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| krnlyng | okay i will try :) | 15:31 |
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| giucam | krnlyng: isn't there any error on the output? | 15:34 |
| krnlyng | giucam: which output? | 15:34 |
| giucam | krnlyng: start a client from the terminal, look at the stdout | 15:35 |
| giucam | oh, but what crashes? the client or lipstick? | 15:35 |
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| krnlyng | giucam: lipstick | 15:40 |
| Guest74554 | hello | 15:40 |
| giucam | krnlyng: hmm. well, you could ssh in, start lipstick manually and then see what happens when you start a client | 15:41 |
| krnlyng | thanks, yeah i will try that later, got to go for now | 15:42 |
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| Guest74554 | Why do you think Jolla makes too much attention to the android applications and almost no attention to his family? | 15:44 |
| Guest74554 | native | 15:44 |
| Yaniel | because 1) sailfish is not very widespread yet and 2) 3rd party devs almost always take the easiest way out of porting | 15:45 |
| Yaniel | it is difficult to convince devs to make a native app | 15:45 |
| Yaniel | at least until sailfish gets more traction | 15:45 |
| Guest74554 | Constantly hear about the android compatibility instead promote native. application | 15:47 |
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| Yaniel | well it is easier to attract devs too if you can say "look, your app will probably run already | 15:48 |
| Yaniel | versus having them practically rewrite the entire thing | 15:48 |
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| Morpog_PC___ | plus to convince them you need $$$ cash | 15:59 |
| Morpog_PC___ | just ask Microsoft or Blackberry | 15:59 |
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| pp_ | MS learned the hard way with wp7, angry birds didn't work on directx out of the box :P | 16:43 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | reboot. as I was saying | 17:46 |
| r0kk3rz_ | unless the contacts are under engineered | 17:46 |
| r0kk3rz_ | oxidation shouldnt be a problem | 17:46 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | oops wrong channel | 17:49 |
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| krnlyng | hm it crashes even if i use the wayland 1.1 branch :( are there any custom patches used on the jolla? | 17:56 |
| w00t | krnlyng: custom patches for what | 17:58 |
| krnlyng | w00t: wayland | 17:58 |
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| w00t | krnlyng: a few. see https://github.com/mer-packages/wayland (before the 1.3 upgrade) | 17:59 |
| locusf | krnlyng: on n9? | 17:59 |
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| krnlyng | locusf: no jolla | 17:59 |
| w00t | krnlyng: what problem are you hitting | 18:00 |
| krnlyng | w00t: lipstick crashes when i try to start something (and it also crashes after a while even if i do nothing) | 18:01 |
| w00t | do you have a backtrace? | 18:01 |
| krnlyng | not yet, whats the best way to obtain a backtrace? | 18:01 |
| Yaniel | gdb | 18:01 |
| w00t | gdb - you may need to fiddle a bit since it's got slightly funky permissions (memory is a little vague) | 18:02 |
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| javispedro | yep, possibly "devel-su --privileged" helps | 18:03 |
| w00t | right, the privileged group | 18:04 |
| w00t | thanks javispedro | 18:04 |
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| krnlyng | javispedro: hmm i get: https://bpaste.net/show/67f20b3c0e8e | 18:06 |
| javispedro | krnlyng: iirc that is not a problem | 18:08 |
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| krnlyng | and how do i stop lipstick from starting up itself? it always restarts if i kill it | 18:09 |
| javispedro | systemctl --user stop lipstick.service | 18:09 |
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| javispedro | OR attach gdb to lipstick instead of trying to run it | 18:10 |
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| krnlyng | now i get: "unknown:0 - Failed to create display (Connection refused)" when starting lipstick in gdb | 18:13 |
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| javispedro | my suggestion is to let systemctl start it and attach gdb to it | 18:14 |
| javispedro | I don't know what env was required to launch it from memory | 18:15 |
| javispedro | and attaching it is trivial, in gdb shell "attach $(pidof lipstick)" | 18:15 |
| javispedro | hm.. no pidof :) | 18:18 |
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| javispedro | so just pgrep lipstick, get the pid and "attach PID". | 18:18 |
| locusf | also lipstick should be run as normal user I guess | 18:19 |
| locusf | and -platform hwcomposer | 18:19 |
| javispedro | and all the plugins and env vars and so on | 18:20 |
| krnlyng | aha! /usr/bin/lipstick: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQt5Compositor.so.5: undefined symbol: wl_buffer_is_shm | 18:20 |
| * javispedro looks up logs | 18:21 | |
| javispedro | hm | 18:23 |
| javispedro | did you rebuild all of wayland but did not rebuild qtwayland? :P | 18:23 |
| krnlyng | yep :S | 18:24 |
| javispedro | out of curiosity, what do you want from more recent wayland? the stack is currently so "custom" I don't see much benefit from it | 18:25 |
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| javispedro | wayland doesn't offer API guarantees for "server side" (sigh) | 18:26 |
| javispedro | see http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2012-October/005967.html | 18:27 |
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| krnlyng | javispedro: i am trying to install the freedreno graphics drivers because the proprietary one has bugs which prevent mupen64plus from working properly | 18:27 |
| locusf | so you're pretty much on your own on that then :) | 18:28 |
| javispedro | it may be easier to try to workaround whatever bugs there are than to change the graphics stack | 18:29 |
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| javispedro | albeit freedreno is an interesting goal on its own.. | 18:30 |
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| krnlyng | hmm qtwayland gives me: [nemo@Jolla qtwayland]$ qmake | 18:39 |
| krnlyng | Project ERROR: QtWayland requires Wayland 1.1.0 or higher | 18:39 |
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| giucam | krnlyng: source /var/lib/environment/compositor/60-boston-ui.conf and lipstick $LIPSTICK_OPTIONS | 18:58 |
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| piggz | Anyone want to play a game? http://piggz.co.uk/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=b78ff76c31ff2f099d5e181c80152b2a | 19:37 |
| Yaniel | "I want to play a game" :D | 19:38 |
| Yaniel | sure anyone is going to trust a random rpm on someones owncloud | 19:38 |
| krnlyng | hm i screwed something up... even after restoring contents of / to a known working state, i have that tracker-store eats up 90% cpu usage and the gui is extremely slow :( | 19:38 |
| piggz | Yaniel: your loss ;) | 19:39 |
| piggz | (honest tho, its fine) | 19:39 |
| Yaniel | I actually am curious | 19:39 |
| piggz | its just a port of my old maemo/harmattan/android game to sailfish | 19:40 |
| piggz | with some better gfx | 19:40 |
| piggz | no sound tho atm | 19:40 |
| louisdk | piggz, are you going to put it up on Openrepos? :) | 19:40 |
| piggz | im intrigued to see what its like on a jolla device ... my sailfish dev device is an old android phone, with different resolutions | 19:41 |
| piggz | louisdk: likely | 19:41 |
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| coderus | piggz: i want to play a game http://www.relyonhorror.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/ChildsPlay.jpg | 19:47 |
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| Yaniel | I was more after http://t6.rbxcdn.com/4d281c95f30bad2538c7faeb78d0fe16 | 19:51 |
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| M4rtinK | the only way to win is not to play | 20:09 |
| Nicd- | the only winning move* | 20:10 |
| piggz | i with M4rtinK ad Nicd- ... wargames was in my head when i typed that :) | 20:15 |
| Nicd- | dude, spoilers | 20:17 |
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| M4rtinK | what about a nice game of Flappy Bird ? | 20:30 |
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