Tuesday, 2014-10-14

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tortoisedocmodule qt3d is not installed..05:59
tortoisedocbut its available from qt5-qt3d ?05:59
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ArmadilloNicd-: Transifex looks really good for managing translations of open source projects :)06:20
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Juubahey, my Jolla has... well... frozen kinda06:45
JuubaHomescreen works, i can lock and unlock it and start apps06:45
Juubabut: in the apps, nothing works06:45
JuubaI cant type anything in the terminal06:45
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JuubaI can access SMS messages06:45
Juubathem apps just seem to be frooozen06:46
JuubaI cant switch to airplane mode, that is one of my "go-to fix-it -tricks"06:46
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sthalikhey, how much of time investment is moving to sailfish from oem/aosp/cm/debian system?07:13
Stskeepzerr.. rephrase?07:14
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Armadillosthalik: you should specify what you want to do. such generic questions are not really easy to answer07:20
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sthalikArmadillo: hybris for the bionic non-libc, linux-ecosystem-userland in hier, friend-of-a-friend said android abi emulation isn't necessary in 98% cases anyway since sailfish apparently has an app ecosystem (???)07:26
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sthalikArmadillo: i've installed debian in /vendor/armhf, then symlinks galore. already starting to hate it07:27
sthaliknow it boots GUI, at least, finally...07:29
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Armadillowell if you need the Android Apps or not depends on what apps you're mainly using, but it is always nice to have a fallback to Android, because yes there are many native SailfishOS app already, but for example I've bought some Android apps on the Play Store and can still use them on the Sailfish device, which is really nice07:32
sthalikArmadillo: note: lucky-packer-lvl-emulation07:34
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sthaliknice to know gms/play works07:34
Armadillowell it's abit tricky to get paid apps installed and also to install play store, but the apps work like a charm for me07:35
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Armadilloif your're interested, have a look here: https://together.jolla.com/question/30926/howto-install-google-play/07:37
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sthalikArmadillo: thanks! i'm using cm 4.1.2 google frameworks, due to crashing if otherwise :)07:38
pp_http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip is no longer available tho, you have to go to shady mirrors07:38
sthalikpp_: aha, need put it on dropbucks07:38
tadzikso someone can leak your password and replace the file? :P07:39
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sthaliki'd get email if breakage, likely07:39
sthalikdamn, dropbox password's the "~hard one"07:39
sthalikif crackage, need change at many places07:39
sthalikactually, not. no one's gonna break into my other accounts07:40
sthalikso just deal with immediate crackage-fallout, then go on as usual07:40
sthalik~uploaded. new construction options.07:42
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pp_for reference, sha256sum c4f20dc5e66073cc758f05fa9d31b2032efd1962eeb433703d6d241d9cc77555  gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip is from a shady mirror, but haven't noticed signs of being pwned07:42
pp_so it might be the real thing07:43
sthalikmatches, thanks07:44
Armadillothere are still official mirrors online: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps07:46
ArmadilloCM10 ist the needed one07:46
pp_yup, matches md5sum07:47
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pp_there, link to cyanogenmod & md5sum added :-)07:50
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Armadillopp_: great :)07:55
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blaaaCan I use Python to create software for Sailfish OS?09:45
blaaaAnd I wonder if ActiveSync support with multiple&shared folders/calendars is available09:45
Nicd-to the first one, yes, but it won't be accepted to harbour yet09:46
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blaaaoh8gnz: thanks, I think the only other platform with support for Python apps is BlackBerry10:23
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blaaaI will look for more info on ActiveSync support already available10:23
coderusblaaa: also android, no?10:26
blaaacoderus:coderus: I think it's possible to add on a python setup, there is no python available by default t omy knowledge10:27
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blaaaSL4A it is called I think10:28
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coderusin android you can add whatever you want10:35
coderusas you need to bundle everything anyway10:35
coderusso no difference whick backend you using10:36
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sthalikcoderus: as a vendor?10:56
sthalikusers can do whatnot10:56
coderussthalik: vendor? what are you talking about?10:57
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phlixii guess e. g. someone who publishes in play store11:06
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coderusyes sure11:08
coderusyou bundle all libs in apk11:08
coderusif using more than android kit11:09
coderusqt, c#, python, whatever else11:09
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sthalikmount -o remount,rw /system ; mkdir /system/app/track # go from here11:14
sthaliks/track/trash/ :/11:14
sthalikdamn trash/ bigger than .. of it usually11:14
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blaaadoes anyone know if support to shrink XFS filesystem is in the orks for linux?11:40
blaaasorry wrong channel :X11:40
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sandsmarkis there any supported crypto API?14:28
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stephgsandsmark: for ... ?14:29
sandsmarkaes, for example14:29
sandsmarkI see that NSS is installed, at least, but is it okay to use?14:34
sandsmarkqca would've been the best14:34
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sandsmarkNSS is a mess :D14:40
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tortoisedocthis qt3d thing is becoming more and more interesting15:09
SK_worktortoisedoc: well15:10
SK_workwhen it is ready15:10
SK_workI didn't had the opportunity to try it on Qt 4.815:10
SK_workso cannot tell how awesome it is15:10
tortoisedocSK_work : well15:10
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tortoisedocSK_work : my issue is that I do not understand how it comes its available on c++ but no qml?15:10
tortoisedocI mean15:11
tortoisedocin mer15:11
tortoisedocit is available under qt4-sdk15:11
tortoisedocit is available under qt5-qt3d :P15:11
tortoisedocbut even after installing it in the targets, qml files complain of imports15:11
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SK_workha ?15:11
tortoisedocso I am doing something wrong15:11
Yanielqt5 is trying to be more modular AFAIK15:12
Yanielwhich means more separate packages15:12
tortoisedocYaniel: have you tried to use qt3d?15:13
Yanielhaven't had time to touch Qt5 at all15:13
tortoisedocits here15:14
tortoisedocbut i cant use it :|15:14
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coderusthp: ping15:24
coderusthp: stupid question, but is there possibility to use python pip on Jolla?15:25
Nicd-why not?15:25
Nicd-if you have the required dependencies15:25
coderuswell, i want to gget python-pip from some repo on jolla :)15:26
Nicd-you could also get it from https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pip#downloads15:27
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coderusalso, installing cert to /etc/ssl/certs and starting milti_c_rehash still showing warning in browser15:38
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skvarkcoderus: curl -L -o get-pip.py https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pypa/pip/master/contrib/get-pip.py and python get-pip.py15:41
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coderusno problems yet..15:51
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coderushate this: UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xd0 in position 33: ordinal not in range(128)15:52
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Nicd-that's life with python :)16:01
coderusi hate this :D16:01
coderusreally need some internal protection for python to avoid this error16:02
skvarkpython3 is the answer16:02
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skvarkin python2 you have think by yourself all the encoding stuff16:02
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coderuspython3 for  sailfish/nemo is in testing stage, isnt it?16:08
skvarkhmm.. I don't know16:09
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skvarkproblem with python3 is that all the packages aren't compatible with it16:10
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skvarkthough the situation is much better now than last year16:10
coderuswell yeah, you 'd need to rebuild everything yourself16:12
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coderuswtf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/855990016:15
skvarkmaybe it needs python-dev16:17
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coderusi need to increase verbodity somehow :D16:18
coderusgcc on device takes ages :D16:20
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SK_workcoderus: why u no Mer SDK16:31
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coderusSK_work: because of python-pip16:37
coderusi dont want to copy installed files back from mersdk to device after16:38
coderusand now i have woeking mitmproxy on device :D16:38
coderusbut still have problem with certificates16:38
SK_workcoderus: :D16:38
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locusfhmm I have home-wifi.config in /var/lib/connman/ but connman won't connect to my configured wifi from there, what could be the problem? I'm running 1.0.2519:00
locusfmaybe too late to ask19:01
locusfalso version --dup won't upgrade anything19:02
locusfand checking new version from Jolla store doesn't show the new version at all19:02
Sceltlocusf: there seem to be problems with jolla store right now19:05
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Sceltsee #jollamobile19:05
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locusfScelt: oh ok19:06
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kimmolihmm... SDK git-tools are missing tag (? or is it just me)19:09
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Acceshould the TapSensor QML component work already?20:02
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AcceI'm trying with this code: http://pastebin.com/JtaaTGFu20:05
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Accebut the timestamp for the reading stays the same20:06
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gogetahi guys20:16
stephggogeta: demoted?20:17
gogetatime to ghost office pc20:17
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\goi giveyp20:18
\goi'm crying20:18
* stephg passes \go a beer20:19
thpcoderus: you should be able to use pip as root or with installing into nemo's home as normal user20:19
\goi got a fermenter with 10 liters wort in the basement20:19
\gohi thp20:19
thpcoderus: bootstrap with easy_install pip or something might work too20:19
thp\go: yo?20:21
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kimmolidamn...  Warning: QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 9 and type 'Read', disabling... (kernel/qeventdispatcher_glib.cpp:89, gboolean socketNotifierSourceCheck(GSource*))20:23
mhall119\go: why does that make you cry?20:23
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\goseem more polished then sfos20:25
thp\go: did you run ubuntu on a phone recently for day-to-day stuff?20:26
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* mhall119 does20:27
\gogalaxy nexus and camera works20:28
\goi dunno how20:28
\gobut works20:28
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\goin the meanwhile I drafted few apps for sailfish20:29
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* \go need to write xmlrequest in c++ and not in QML20:32
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r0kk3rzif works20:55
r0kk3rzand open source20:55
r0kk3rzthen STEEELZ IT20:55
r0kk3rzbut maybe canonical has buddyed up with samsung20:56
chem|str0kk3rz: there will be tizen, I doubt they will widely support ubuntu (maybe laptops)20:58
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r0kk3rzmaybe, maybe not21:19
r0kk3rzsamsungs tizen strategy has yet to really reveal itself21:19
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kimmoliah. need to use context-kit statefs to get the Alarm.Present state. QSocketNotifier gets triggered all the time (pöh)21:23
kimmoliall examples are cmake, not qtcreator projects.. äh21:23
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