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| coderus | it's not test, its Mitakuuluu source code :D | 00:04 |
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| coderus | ah | 00:06 |
| coderus | you asking two different things :D | 00:06 |
| coderus | test is .patch file with -p1 | 00:06 |
| coderus | Qt.resolvedUrl is just simple built-in qt parser :) | 00:07 |
| coderus | it will return file:// + path when needed | 00:07 |
| appd | if i have a background image at "qml/images/image2.png", then i can use "Qt.resolvedUrl("image://image2.png")? | 00:08 |
| appd | does the patch file need the latest jolla update? | 00:08 |
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| coderus | appd: no, you use Qt.resolvedUrl("images/image2.png") | 00:14 |
| coderus | appd: patch works only on u10 1.1.1.27 | 00:14 |
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| appd | ok, i haven't updated, still am using 1.0.8.21 | 00:31 |
| appd | and shows no updates available | 00:32 |
| coderus | jolla not working at weekend ;) | 00:32 |
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| muppis_ | coderus, I noticed a typo in Powermenu. In Configuration Fancy background -settings description says Requres. Should it say Requires? Altough both means same, but first one is Catalan word. :) | 08:10 |
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| coderus | muppis: thanks | 08:53 |
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| coderus | Jonni: question about trying to activate developer updates (not by me: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1453248&postcount=471). WHat is the right way to restore original behaviour? User says ssu fl sales is not enough. | 08:55 |
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| SK_work | coderus: ssu release sales | 09:06 |
| SK_work | coderus: wait a sec | 09:06 |
| SK_work | coderus: ssu domain sales | 09:07 |
| SK_work | ssu fl release | 09:07 |
| SK_work | ssu re 1.1.1.27 | 09:07 |
| SK_work | try with those 3 | 09:07 |
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| coderus | aha domain also | 09:14 |
| m4g0g | is there a way to use filter in qml for external model? | 09:14 |
| m4g0g | or I should use QSortFilterProxyModel in this case? | 09:14 |
| coderus | m4g0g: well, there is example in SearchField reference | 09:16 |
| coderus | this is the only one way qml can do natively | 09:16 |
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| Jonni | coderus: only thing that I can think of if user runs the commands as wrong user as there is difference if command is runned between nemo and root | 09:23 |
| Jonni | but yes switching to sales domain should be enough | 09:23 |
| m4g0g | coderus: nativly via ListModel | 09:24 |
| coderus | Jonni: isn't nemo restricted to run ssu commands? | 09:24 |
| coderus | m4g0g: yes, onr-by-one sorting | 09:24 |
| coderus | for ( ... ) { if ( ... ) {} else {} } | 09:24 |
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| m4g0g | External model it's better to use | 09:25 |
| coderus | Jonni: and ssu omain should be runned under nemo or root? :) | 09:28 |
| Jonni | coderus: afaik nemo | 09:28 |
| Jonni | if I remember right | 09:29 |
| SK_work | Jonni: I think root works too | 09:29 |
| coderus | :D | 09:29 |
| aard_ | coderus: it doesn't matter, several actions need to run as root, but for those a dbus activated daemon is used, given dbus is available | 09:30 |
| Jonni | only if you install stuff as root, but if you use UI like jolla store (it runs as nemo.privileged so nemo user needs to have right settings) | 09:30 |
| coderus | aard_: cool, thanks :) | 09:30 |
| Jonni | but I might remember wrong. | 09:30 |
| Jonni | or user could just trying register user@sales | 09:30 |
| coderus | thank you :) | 09:30 |
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| Jonni | from ui | 09:30 |
| Jonni | if I remember right that switched back to sales domain also | 09:31 |
| dr_gogeta86 | good morning from sicily | 09:31 |
| coderus | Jonni: okay, thats cool | 09:31 |
| coderus | i'll try :) | 09:31 |
| dr_gogeta86 | http://www.raffineriadimilazzo.it/livecam/Api/camerainternet | 09:32 |
| Jonni | but if the end user runs the commands that you instructed it should be able to tell what settings is conflicting for him. | 09:32 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | coderus, may i test dbus mpris lockscreen ? | 09:34 |
| coderus | Jonni: hm now on 1.1.1.27 i tried to access developer updates, ui says "Host requires authentication" and my domain and repos not changed. | 09:34 |
| dr_gogeta86 | is something i really miss from n9 | 09:34 |
| aard_ | coderus: it only happens no the very first software version from a year ago | 09:34 |
| coderus | dr_gogeta86: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1453280&postcount=476 | 09:34 |
| dr_gogeta86 | tmo ? | 09:35 |
| dr_gogeta86 | :-( | 09:35 |
| coderus | aard_: need more investigation then: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1453248&postcount=471 | 09:35 |
| coderus | dr_gogeta86: ? | 09:35 |
| aard_ | coderus: if you have anything newer than the original firmware you need to manually screw around with ssu to break it | 09:36 |
| coderus | aard_: hm, i don't think this user could manually screw it, but who knows. will see. | 09:37 |
| ulvus | morning sailfisher | 09:37 |
| coderus | btw, is there anybody interested to look at my proper workaround for alphanumeric devicelock patch? | 09:38 |
| aard_ | coderus: the url there is an rnd url, so he switched his device from release setting to rnd setting. even with the first firmware that didn't happen by accident. ssu domain sales; ssu re <releaseversion> should switch him back | 09:39 |
| coderus | okay, thank you | 09:41 |
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| xfade_ | Check check check ;) | 09:47 |
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| Mano | hi, is there any way i can clear all the logs in phone app? | 11:08 |
| Mano | a command in terminal is also fine.. | 11:08 |
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| coderus | Mano: you mean clear call history? | 11:09 |
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| Mano | yes yes.. | 11:09 |
| coderus | good question :D | 11:12 |
| Mano | if we could find where the log is stored. will it help? | 11:14 |
| coderus | commhistory-tool deleteall -calls | 11:14 |
| coderus | this should be solution | 11:14 |
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| coderus | https://together.jolla.com/question/59467/how-to-delete-call-history-and-sms-history/?answer=59586#post-id-59586 | 11:17 |
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| Nokius | coderus: ping | 11:18 |
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| Mano | cool. thanks for d solution coderus | 11:21 |
| coderus | Nokius: pong | 11:23 |
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| coderus | Mano: you welcome | 11:23 |
| Nokius | so fare i can't reprodice the problem | 11:24 |
| Nokius | coderus: ^ | 11:24 |
| coderus | Nokius: coool :) | 11:24 |
| coderus | i finally patched most important place :D | 11:24 |
| Nokius | coderus: but the Event view problem I only got ones :-/ | 11:24 |
| coderus | Nokius: is it a problem really? :D | 11:25 |
| coderus | Nokius: seems you need to apply for tester in Jolla :D | 11:25 |
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| Nokius | coderus: we are not talking about the maliit one or? | 11:25 |
| Nokius | coderus: :D | 11:25 |
| Nokius | julius the last patch had only the event view efect all the rest was good iirc | 11:26 |
| Nokius | coderus: ^ | 11:26 |
| Nokius | don't do two task at ones :) | 11:27 |
| Nokius | will try my bet to get a unwanted effect in the next hours :P | 11:29 |
| * Nokius afk for launch | 11:30 | |
| urjaman | launch? | 11:30 |
| Armadillo | -a maybe ^^ | 11:31 |
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| coderus | Nokius: patch fixing only devicelock settings, not devicelock keyboard :) | 11:37 |
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| gabriel9 | is sdk updated? | 11:42 |
| gabriel9 | on download page i can see Opt-in | 11:42 |
| gabriel9 | latest | 11:42 |
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| coderus | gabriel9: no | 11:44 |
| coderus | latest opt-in is u9 | 11:44 |
| tbr | you should be able to use the U9 sdk with a U10 device | 11:45 |
| coderus | Blame me, but i released it to public: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-enable-alphanumeric-devicelock-settings :D | 11:45 |
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| gabriel9 | ok | 11:52 |
| Armadillo | u10 SDK will be released on january 5th | 11:53 |
| coderus | Armadillo: really? :) | 11:55 |
| Armadillo | coderus really! :P | 11:56 |
| coderus | cool! | 11:56 |
| Nokius | coderus: so can't see any problems so fare label it "at own risk" :P | 11:56 |
| sandsmark | hmm, I don't get an update notification (tried on several wlans just to make sure), are they doing staggered rollouts or something? | 11:56 |
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| Nokius | coderus: some times its posible when pressing he numpad option and it ask for the code :-S | 12:00 |
| coderus | Nokius: sure, this is workaround :) | 12:01 |
| Nokius | :D | 12:01 |
| coderus | Nokius: after pressing numpad option it checks your deviceloc password and not setting to numpad if alphanumeric used. :) | 12:01 |
| coderus | sandsmark: try devel-su -p | 12:02 |
| coderus | dbus-send --print-reply --dest=com.jolla.jollastore /StoreClient com.jolla.jollastore.checkForUpgrade "boolean:true" "boolean:true" | 12:02 |
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| * Nokius cu later | 12:03 | |
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| sandsmark | coderus: what does it do? the same thing as the "check for sailfish updates" in settings? | 12:03 |
| sandsmark | it returned this: method return sender=:1.642 -> dest=:1.697 reply_serial=2 | 12:04 |
| coderus | yes, just forced to check if some cache stored | 12:04 |
| sandsmark | hmm, ok | 12:04 |
| forgrimm | Now I got a strange bug in my game SailCountries :/ I have a file for all countrydata: https://github.com/florianwittmann/sailcountries/blob/master/qml/countries.js with qsTr(). It used to work until QT update to 5.2. Now it just works if I call that function direct in a QML file. If I call the function in another javascript file like here: https://github.com/florianwittmann/sailcountries/blob/master/qml/game.js#L8 the | 12:05 |
| forgrimm | countries stay untranslated in the new QT-Version. Any ideas? | 12:05 |
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| sandsmark | you don't get any warnings or error output? | 12:06 |
| coderus | forgrimm: i never seen qsTr can be used in js | 12:06 |
| forgrimm | I definitly used to work ;-) | 12:06 |
| forgrimm | it* | 12:06 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: the only issue is that I guess it might actually be more code to special-case several types of keyboards | 12:10 |
| coderus | forgrimm: you definetly shouldn't do that | 12:10 |
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| coderus | forgrimm: in your ddelegate use text: qsTr(model.name) | 12:11 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: how many "special" keyboards should there be? e-mail, numbers-only, symbol...? | 12:11 |
| saidinesh5 | umm.. .let me check | 12:11 |
| forgrimm | coderus: But then lupdate won't find all the countries to translate | 12:12 |
| coderus | forgrimm: you can keep it in js just to keep translate strings in ts | 12:12 |
| coderus | but add qsTr to delegates | 12:12 |
| coderus | to really translate it | 12:12 |
| forgrimm | kk I see | 12:12 |
| coderus | but well | 12:12 |
| coderus | something changed in qt5.2 | 12:12 |
| coderus | or you missed your translations in recent build if it really worked before | 12:12 |
| forgrimm | Actually it works in the CountrieList that's directly calling the method from QML | 12:13 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: "languages/Keyboard_telephone.qml";"languages/Keyboard_numbers.qml"; "lib/"+locale+"/Keyboard_"+locale+"_email.qml"; "lib/"+locale+"/Keyboard_"+locale+"_url_search.qml"; canvas.layoutId = "freetext"; | 12:14 |
| forgrimm | But not if I call it from JS | 12:14 |
| saidinesh5 | telephone, numbers, email, url search, freetext | 12:14 |
| sandsmark | ok, so not a ton | 12:14 |
| saidinesh5 | and then emoji too | 12:14 |
| sandsmark | ah | 12:14 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 12:14 |
| sandsmark | and I guess it won't change a lot in the future | 12:14 |
| saidinesh5 | kids these days.. emojis into keyboards ... | 12:14 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 12:14 |
| sandsmark | so hardcoding them might not be that bad :P | 12:14 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 12:14 |
| sandsmark | depends on how much work it is, then :D | 12:15 |
| saidinesh5 | shouldnt be much work would it? | 12:15 |
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| saidinesh5 | also | 12:15 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: i was thinking of adding "specialkeys" : [ [key1] [key2]] .. so on to the layout itself | 12:16 |
| sandsmark | hmm, what would they do? | 12:16 |
| saidinesh5 | the key left/right of the spacebar basically | 12:17 |
| sandsmark | ah | 12:17 |
| saidinesh5 | so that way for url keyboard, they would be ".com",".co.uk", so on... | 12:17 |
| sandsmark | yeah, makes sense | 12:17 |
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| sandsmark | yeah, and for scandinavian it is where people put ø | 12:17 |
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| saidinesh5 | i thought scandanavian keyboards have 11 keys on the top two rows? | 12:18 |
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| sandsmark | yeah, but not nemo | 12:18 |
| sandsmark | swiftkey uses 11 keys, though | 12:18 |
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| saidinesh5 | umm... | 12:19 |
| sandsmark | swiftkey follows the normal qwerty layouts from normal keyboards | 12:20 |
| coderus | forgrimm: because it can't work :D | 12:20 |
| sandsmark | nemo squeezes stuff in weird places :D | 12:20 |
| saidinesh5 | umm.. oooooooookay.. | 12:20 |
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| saidinesh5 | but | 12:20 |
| saidinesh5 | i thought you said it was 29 characters | 12:20 |
| sandsmark | there is | 12:21 |
| saidinesh5 | so how many special keys do we need then? | 12:21 |
| saidinesh5 | i thiiiiiiiiiiink we can fit up to 3 keys | 12:21 |
| saidinesh5 | without feeling too cramped up | 12:21 |
| saidinesh5 | i m pretty sure 2 keys would be perfect though | 12:21 |
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| sandsmark | well, if we get 11x2 on the top rows we don't need any :D | 12:21 |
| sandsmark | I just had a brainfart | 12:21 |
| saidinesh5 | lol we can get that.. but i thought you said it is too cramped up | 12:22 |
| sandsmark | nono | 12:22 |
| sandsmark | but we could just have , and . or something | 12:22 |
| coderus | forgrimm: using .pragma library you can't access global qt functions | 12:22 |
| sandsmark | incentive for people to use good punctuation | 12:22 |
| saidinesh5 | good idea actually | 12:22 |
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| saidinesh5 | so the [variable number of rows, columns, and 2 special keys ] = alphabetical keyboard? | 12:23 |
| forgrimm | coderus: Maybe I should just load the data in main qml file on Appstart. That should work | 12:24 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: yup, sounds good | 12:24 |
| saidinesh5 | okay in that case all the symbolic keyboards, etc.. are to be implemented in QML itself | 12:26 |
| sandsmark | yup, sounds good | 12:26 |
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| saidinesh5 | and switchiing doesnt have to reach engine at all | 12:27 |
| saidinesh5 | makes it cleaner that way | 12:27 |
| saidinesh5 | engine then just takes care of the input | 12:27 |
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| saidinesh5 | except shift... | 12:27 |
| saidinesh5 | umm... | 12:27 |
| sandsmark | hmm | 12:27 |
| forgrimm | coderus: Yeah - That's working - Thanks on pointing out that .pragma can't access global qt functions | 12:27 |
| saidinesh5 | this is the bit that was actually confusing me over the weekend too | 12:28 |
| sandsmark | the shift? | 12:28 |
| saidinesh5 | like how exactly to deal with backspace and enter and shift and space keys | 12:28 |
| saidinesh5 | in the maliit plugin code? in the engine code? | 12:28 |
| sandsmark | I think the state machine in the engine should handle them | 12:28 |
| sandsmark | and then send signals to the rest to change what is displayed? | 12:28 |
| saidinesh5 | it should or shouldnt? | 12:29 |
| saidinesh5 | umm... | 12:29 |
| sandsmark | because we want shift to be automatically triggered after a ".", for example | 12:29 |
| sandsmark | I think | 12:29 |
| saidinesh5 | yes, true... | 12:29 |
| saidinesh5 | lol this loooks like one ugly mess already | 12:31 |
| saidinesh5 | engine taking care of shift key but | 12:31 |
| saidinesh5 | only the ui taking care of | 12:31 |
| saidinesh5 | the numeric key | 12:31 |
| sandsmark | hmm | 12:32 |
| sandsmark | could make the engine handle the numeric key as well? | 12:33 |
| saidinesh5 | thats actually what we are currently doing :p | 12:34 |
| saidinesh5 | but .. i wasnt sure how to make it play well with the telephonic keyboard.. | 12:34 |
| sandsmark | what do you mean? | 12:35 |
| saidinesh5 | like telephonic keyboard = think of old 90's cellphones | 12:35 |
| saidinesh5 | it definitely needs a layout in qml | 12:35 |
| sandsmark | yah | 12:35 |
| sandsmark | humdidum | 12:36 |
| saidinesh5 | lol | 12:36 |
| saidinesh5 | another option is to implement the state machine in the UI itself | 12:37 |
| sandsmark | mmm, not a big fan of huge logic parts in js/qml :D | 12:38 |
| saidinesh5 | exactly my problem :p | 12:38 |
| sandsmark | and I think it needs to be kind of close to the prediction algorithm | 12:38 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 12:38 |
| saidinesh5 | good point | 12:38 |
| saidinesh5 | capitalization based on nons | 12:38 |
| saidinesh5 | nouns | 12:38 |
| sandsmark | yeah | 12:38 |
| sandsmark | maybe it is easier to do all keyboards in json :P | 12:41 |
| saidinesh5 | like now? :P | 12:42 |
| sandsmark | yeah | 12:42 |
| sandsmark | but special keyboards as well | 12:42 |
| saidinesh5 | but i m still thinking how to do telephonic keyboard in json | 12:42 |
| sandsmark | well, just a 3x4 layout? | 12:43 |
| sandsmark | 123,456,789,*0# | 12:43 |
| saidinesh5 | yes but the keys need different arrangement there | 12:43 |
| saidinesh5 | no spacebar | 12:43 |
| saidinesh5 | +, - keys to the side | 12:43 |
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| saidinesh5 | and we cant move spacebar to the json | 12:44 |
| saidinesh5 | cuz of the shape and position :p | 12:44 |
| sandsmark | yeah :V | 12:45 |
| sandsmark | bah | 12:45 |
| saidinesh5 | lol see? | 12:45 |
| saidinesh5 | this was tricky | 12:45 |
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| sandsmark | indeed | 12:46 |
| sandsmark | UIs are so hard... | 12:46 |
| saidinesh5 | lol wait till we have to implement UI tests then :P | 12:46 |
| sandsmark | oh god | 12:47 |
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| sandsmark | at work we have QA people that do that for us :D | 12:47 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah even we did lol.. i even gave one of them blauzahl's contact details for squish | 12:47 |
| sandsmark | :D | 12:48 |
| sandsmark | yeah, we use squish | 12:48 |
| saidinesh5 | lol is that the only tool available for Qt? | 12:48 |
| sandsmark | they already used it before I started there, though, so I couldn't use my contacts :P | 12:48 |
| sandsmark | I think so | 12:48 |
| saidinesh5 | hehh | 12:48 |
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| sandsmark | but yeah, let's finish the multi-language layout stuff first :D | 12:50 |
| sandsmark | maybe we come up with some genius ideas | 12:50 |
| sandsmark | it doesn't like my 11+11+9 layout: ASSERT failure in QVector<T>::operator[]: "index out of range", file /usr/include/qt5/QtCore/qvector.h, line 358 | 12:50 |
| saidinesh5 | hehh i thought we are doing this for the multi language | 12:50 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh | 12:50 |
| saidinesh5 | okay let me fix that firs tthen | 12:51 |
| sandsmark | eh, 11+11+8 | 12:51 |
| saidinesh5 | okay gimme a minute.. fixing that first then | 12:51 |
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| sandsmark | npnp | 12:53 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: are you doing the dictionary analyzer as well, or can/should I? | 12:55 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: there isnt much in the dictionary analyzer is there? | 12:56 |
| saidinesh5 | check raw_material/ | 12:56 |
| sandsmark | yeah | 12:56 |
| sandsmark | what do you mean much? it seems to have hardcoded keyboard dimensions in a lot of places | 12:56 |
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| sandsmark | ok, not that much | 12:57 |
| saidinesh5 | ohh .. lol i first implemented that too as a non hardcoded | 12:58 |
| saidinesh5 | and then hardcoded it | 12:58 |
| saidinesh5 | lol | 12:58 |
| sandsmark | :D | 12:58 |
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| saidinesh5 | i wanted to think of it as "if the layout is too weird, at least let it throw an error so you can check the UI" | 12:59 |
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| sandsmark | yeah | 12:59 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: where are the android dictionary files? | 13:05 |
| sandsmark | (if you remember where, otherwise I'll search for them myself :D) | 13:05 |
| saidinesh5 | actually i do | 13:05 |
| saidinesh5 | hold on | 13:05 |
| Nokius | what is the name of the dialer application to start it from cli? | 13:06 |
| Nokius | the cover is "broken" and I like to see the output | 13:06 |
| Armadillo | broken in which way? | 13:07 |
| sandsmark | Nokius: voicecall-ui iirc | 13:07 |
| Nokius | sandsmark: thanks | 13:08 |
| sandsmark | np | 13:08 |
| Nokius | ah cli one gets the cover woking | 13:09 |
| Nokius | there is now way to debug application via ssh or which are started via "touchuser"? | 13:09 |
| sandsmark | I see that when it is launched normally it is with "voicecall-ui -prestart" | 13:10 |
| Nokius | sandsmark: okay was a bit wondering about the behavier | 13:11 |
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| Nokius | mh strange | 13:13 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: ok, I feel stupid; the grid_length should be the maximum row length, I guess? | 13:19 |
| * saidinesh5 checks | 13:19 | |
| saidinesh5 | but sounds about right | 13:19 |
| saidinesh5 | yup sandsmark | 13:20 |
| sandsmark | oki | 13:21 |
| saidinesh5 | i was looking at skeyer's code lol | 13:21 |
| saidinesh5 | couldnt find that variable and the horror of using underscore ina variable name :P | 13:21 |
| meklu | underscores are much nicer than ThisDarnCase | 13:22 |
| meklu | horrific, I say | 13:22 |
| sandsmark | underscores_looks_pretty_crappy | 13:23 |
| sandsmark | things get so long! | 13:23 |
| meklu | "oh no, my 200-character lines will look even worse!" :D | 13:24 |
| meklu | 8-column \t tabs and 80-column lines are the best | 13:24 |
| sandsmark | no, my 7 character variable is suddenly 20! | 13:25 |
| meklu | and curly brackets on the right | 13:25 |
| sandsmark | meklu: get out of here | 13:25 |
| sandsmark | with your cray-cray styles :D | 13:25 |
| meklu | you are the crazy one! D: | 13:25 |
| meklu | I merely wrote my own HTTP server for my URL shortener daemon thing | 13:25 |
| sandsmark | honestly, I don't really care much, I just follow whatever style the project I'm working on uses | 13:25 |
| meklu | in C | 13:25 |
| meklu | that's not crazy, YOU'RE ALL CRAZY! | 13:26 |
| sandsmark | I've written irc-bots and games in C | 13:26 |
| meklu | :D | 13:26 |
| sandsmark | there I actually follow the kind of style you describe | 13:26 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 13:26 |
| sandsmark | but for Qt-based projects I use the qt style | 13:26 |
| saidinesh5 | mhm | 13:26 |
| meklu | Qt Creator doesn't even list the one true brace style | 13:27 |
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| meklu | fear naught, for when I do dabble in others' codebases, I follow the style there :) | 13:28 |
| cos- | sorry if this is a faq, but does the latest update solve the issue with btrfs allocations? | 13:29 |
| sandsmark | I doubt it | 13:29 |
| sandsmark | I don't think it ships with a newer kernel | 13:29 |
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| King_DuckZ | woot, the long awaited update is finally out! :)) | 13:42 |
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| Morpog_PC | old news :D | 13:44 |
| King_DuckZ | hm how do I copy the backup to the sd card? I can't find it in my home | 13:45 |
| sandsmark | there's a menu item for it in the backup thing | 13:46 |
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| Morpog_PC | pully menu | 13:47 |
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| King_DuckZ | ah I was looking for the tar itself... thanks! :) | 13:48 |
| sandsmark | np | 13:48 |
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| King_DuckZ | time to update :)) | 13:48 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: pushed the updated analyzer | 13:48 |
| sandsmark | to the sailfish branch, though, it doesn't seem to be merged | 13:49 |
| sandsmark | should I merge? | 13:49 |
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| sandsmark | muh, still no update for me :( | 13:51 |
| meklu | :oj | 13:52 |
| meklu | :o | 13:52 |
| meklu | that's somewhat odd | 13:52 |
| sandsmark | well, I was thinking they might not be rolling out to everyone at the same time | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | should be for everybody | 13:54 |
| sandsmark | hmm, ok, time to debug | 13:55 |
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| King_DuckZ | is the problem with dhcp fixed in this update? (wifi at work has a short dhcp lease and I lose connection very often) | 13:55 |
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: cool | 13:56 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: just to be sure its based on the 11x3 layout right? | 13:57 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: yes | 13:57 |
| sandsmark | hmm, I see this under disabled repositories, is that correct?: - home ... https://download.jollamobile.com/home:/honeybadger/latest_armv7hl/ | 13:59 |
| SK_work | sandsmark: yes | 14:00 |
| SK_work | don't know why honeybadger (iekku ?) is disabled, but it was always like that | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | honeybadger isn't iekku | 14:00 |
| SK_work | or was aard_ the honeybadger ? | 14:01 |
| SK_work | iekku is the nice badger | 14:01 |
| sandsmark | and packagekit complains that it can't read /etc/os-release (as it doesn't exist) | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | give a guess | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:01 |
| SK_work | :D | 14:01 |
| sandsmark | <3 that video | 14:01 |
| aard_ | sandsmark: it's an example for developers to configure their home project on obs easily, disabled per default | 14:01 |
| sandsmark | aard_: ah, ok | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | https://blog.jolla.com/welcome-official-jolla-blog/ starts making more sense too | 14:01 |
| sandsmark | hmm, I can install applications from the store, but not the sailfish utilities app | 14:02 |
| saidinesh5 | umm... | 14:02 |
| SK_work | sandsmark: pkcon install sailfish-utilities ? | 14:02 |
| sandsmark | huh: Command failed: This tool could not find any available package: could not find sailfish-utilities | 14:03 |
| meklu | you need either U9 or U10 for that | 14:03 |
| sandsmark | oh, ok | 14:03 |
| sandsmark | but it is displayed in the store? | 14:03 |
| meklu | *shrug* | 14:03 |
| sandsmark | but not related, then | 14:03 |
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| sandsmark | hmm, doesn't log anything to journald when I try to check for updates | 14:04 |
| SK_work | Stskeeps: the blog took a long time to be made, but the result is good :) | 14:05 |
| King_DuckZ | is jolla planning to advertise sailfishos or their products at all? not many people seem to have ever heard of them | 14:05 |
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| sandsmark | uh, under the "about device" thingy in settings, sailfish os is "unknown version" | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | i've seen factual ads around the place | 14:06 |
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| sandsmark | are OS updates handled through packagekit? | 14:10 |
| sandsmark | or can I get whatever is checking for OS updates to spit out more debug info? | 14:10 |
| aard_ | sandsmark: through store | 14:11 |
| sandsmark | ok | 14:11 |
| Acce | anyone happen to know, where can I find some, even theoretical, maximum sampling frequencies for the common sensors in mobile SoC' | 14:12 |
| Acce | s? | 14:12 |
| sandsmark | does anyone else have /etc/os-release? | 14:17 |
| sandsmark | (on their phone) | 14:18 |
| meklu | I do | 14:18 |
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| sandsmark | meklu: what is in it? | 14:21 |
| sandsmark | (and why has mine gone :V) | 14:21 |
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| meklu | NAME=SailfishOS; ID=sailfishos; VERSION="1.1.1.27 (Vaarainjärvi) (armv7hl)"; … | 14:22 |
| meklu | tr ; \n ofc | 14:23 |
| sandsmark | kk | 14:23 |
| sandsmark | … == more lines? | 14:23 |
| meklu | yup | 14:23 |
| meklu | VERSION_ID=1.1.1.27 | 14:24 |
| meklu | that might be a useful-ish line | 14:24 |
| sandsmark | hmm, I should find the proper content for u8 | 14:24 |
| sandsmark | yeah | 14:24 |
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| meklu | you could probably fill it with pretty arbitrary data, not quite sure | 14:24 |
| sandsmark | I guess this explains why the store shows me applications that are only available for u9/u10 as well :D | 14:25 |
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| sandsmark | maybe I can pull it out of the emulator | 14:25 |
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| meklu | sailfish-version is the package that includes the file, sandsmark | 14:25 |
| sandsmark | oh, ok | 14:26 |
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| sandsmark | pkcon search file os-release couldn't find it, but that might just search installed packages? | 14:26 |
| sandsmark | thanks :D | 14:26 |
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| sandsmark | meklu: <3 | 14:27 |
| sandsmark | now it found the update | 14:27 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: but okay if I merge in the sailfish branch into master? | 14:30 |
| sandsmark | (I don't have an ubuntu phone to test with, in case it breaks stuff :D) | 14:30 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: feel free to.. | 14:31 |
| sandsmark | oki | 14:31 |
| saidinesh5 | also sandsmarkthe ubuntu touch stuff doesnt require anything special .. i sent patch to their upstream | 14:31 |
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| saidinesh5 | well their fork of maliit | 14:31 |
| saidinesh5 | added a mir backend there | 14:31 |
| sandsmark | ok, nice | 14:31 |
| saidinesh5 | mhm they are still ironing out the issues and how 3rd party keyboards are to be integrated and all that stuff | 14:32 |
| saidinesh5 | so they wont yet merge it into maliit framework afaik | 14:32 |
| sandsmark | mkay | 14:32 |
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| sandsmark | bah, stupid slow hotel internet | 14:39 |
| sandsmark | this download takes forever | 14:39 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: did you start on the state machine last time, btw? | 14:44 |
| sandsmark | I was thinking about doing it, but if you already have some code for it it would be nice to start from that | 14:44 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: nope i havent touched it yet. | 14:44 |
| sandsmark | okok | 14:45 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: for that you need to think of one more question how to deal with backspace, enter keys | 14:45 |
| saidinesh5 | with maliit | 14:45 |
| saidinesh5 | especially backspace | 14:45 |
| sandsmark | hmm, yeah | 14:45 |
| saidinesh5 | thats what was a bit.. weird for me about the statemachine | 14:45 |
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| CorvetteZR1 | hi. where can i download an update10 zip for mako? | 15:09 |
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| tbr | CorvetteZR1: ask on #sailfishos-porters | 15:11 |
| CorvetteZR1 | ok, thx | 15:12 |
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| sandsmark | hmm, would be nice to have powertop packaged | 15:20 |
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| tbr | sandsmark: isn't that in mertools? | 15:21 |
| sandsmark | oh, silly me :D | 15:21 |
| tbr | :> | 15:22 |
| tbr | ssu er mertools (or mer-tools?) | 15:22 |
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| SK_work | mer-tools | 15:33 |
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| sandsmark | oh man, new update is sweet | 15:44 |
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| Stskeeps | ssu ar | 15:45 |
| ulvus | hi again | 15:45 |
| zetaz | hello. I found how to set a specific ambiance with a dbus call, but can't find the list of favorited ambiances. Any idea where to look for this ? | 15:46 |
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| zetaz | looking in "/usr/share/ambience/*"is not enough, as we can create ambiences from any picture anywhere, and the system doesn't copy it to a know location | 15:47 |
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| sandsmark | hmm, lots of unidentified timers in powertop | 16:00 |
| sandsmark | annoying | 16:00 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: so, should it accept the frontmost word when you press space, maybe? | 16:09 |
| SK_work | ping coderus ? | 16:09 |
| SK_work | around ? | 16:09 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 16:09 |
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| zetaz | found the ambiance related data hidden in a sqlite database under a priviliged directory (so not readable from user apps) here : /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Ambienced/ambienced.sqlite | 16:11 |
| zetaz | anyone knows if there is an API somewhere to reach that data ? | 16:12 |
| SK_work | zetaz: you have privileged API | 16:12 |
| SK_work | that's all | 16:12 |
| SK_work | :( | 16:12 |
| zetaz | SK_work : ok. My long term goal is to add ambiance switcher in phonebot. So far I can switch ambiances at will from a test app, using dbus. Only problem is to find which ambiance to propose when doing the GUI... | 16:13 |
| SK_work | zetaz: wanted this too | 16:14 |
| SK_work | but no API | 16:14 |
| zetaz | maybe I can start to test that without the GUI, hardcoding the paths... | 16:14 |
| SK_work | zetaz: the best would be to write a small C++ helper API | 16:14 |
| SK_work | attack the db directly | 16:14 |
| SK_work | chown this stupid db ;) | 16:14 |
| zetaz | when you say there is a priviliged API, do you mean something that allows to have a higher level access from a "normal" nemo user app ? | 16:14 |
| SK_work | or use devel-su --privileged | 16:14 |
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| SK_work | zetaz: there are some QML bindings | 16:15 |
| SK_work | see gallery QML code | 16:15 |
| SK_work | but there is no C++ stuff | 16:15 |
| SK_work | and sadly, phonebot is all about C++ | 16:15 |
| zetaz | SK_work : Ok, I'll take a look. | 16:15 |
| SK_work | btw, if you want to help phonebot, ping me | 16:16 |
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| SK_work | no much time these days | 16:16 |
| SK_work | (even if I managed to do this libnemomw stuff, to help devs to static-link to nemo middleware for harbour) | 16:16 |
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| zetaz | database tables are not that hard to decipher, but searched for something more stable. We don't know if this will be kept long under this format when they add functionnality to it... | 16:17 |
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| SK_work | zetaz: we can do something | 16:18 |
| SK_work | something I hate but we can do this | 16:18 |
| SK_work | zetaz: first, make a dummy demo app | 16:18 |
| SK_work | like hello world project from SFOS SDK | 16:19 |
| SK_work | then, run it as privileged (devel-su --privileged etc.) | 16:19 |
| SK_work | then, use QtQML C++ API to dynamically import a QML library | 16:19 |
| SK_work | (import Sailfish.Ambience 1.0 ?) | 16:19 |
| SK_work | see code in gallery | 16:19 |
| SK_work | so that we can have access to the C++ ambience binding | 16:20 |
| zetaz | SK_work: for phone-bot, I will try to help and not do something else on my own side (in part because your approach seems smarter than what I can do ;) ), but have some compilation errors regarding the keepalive library, which I should have successfully installed in the mer compilation VM... So I starting working on a small app to test the ambiance stuff before going back to the full phone-bot. | 16:20 |
| zetaz | SK_work: that's a good idea | 16:21 |
| zetaz | give me some time, I will try this | 16:21 |
| SK_work | zetaz: what's the issue with keepalive ? | 16:22 |
| SK_work | did you cloned latest commits I have done | 16:22 |
| SK_work | (where I introduced libnemomw) | 16:22 |
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| zetaz | SK_work: probably something stupid on my side. I cloned your repo yesterday (I think), and tried to compile. Got an error that keepalive development files where not found. The VM interface in QtCreator doesn't want to install (nothing happens when checked the libkeepalive and libkeepalive-devel packages, and clicked "install"...), so I opened a command line in the VM, and installed it using the package manager. It succeeded, but I still have th | 16:38 |
| zetaz | e error message that keepalive is missing... | 16:38 |
| zetaz | didn't spent too much time to figure out, and created a new app to test the ambiance stuff alone. | 16:39 |
| SK_work | zetaz: do you have the paste ? | 16:42 |
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| zetaz | not yet, I have to finish something before retrying. I'll let you know ! | 16:42 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: btw, did you try continously just sending the keys that the finger passed over to the engine? | 17:00 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: actually thats how it was till now | 17:00 |
| sandsmark | oh, ok | 17:01 |
| saidinesh5 | i moved it to the UI | 17:01 |
| saidinesh5 | cuz of the longpress menu | 17:01 |
| sandsmark | hmm, ok | 17:01 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: why do you ask? | 17:01 |
| saidinesh5 | the shift key? | 17:01 |
| sandsmark | because I think it would make clicking keys easier | 17:01 |
| sandsmark | no, all keys :D | 17:01 |
| sandsmark | and the long press because it would insert a new character afterwards? | 17:02 |
| saidinesh5 | it would open the longpress menu :p | 17:02 |
| saidinesh5 | for each key | 17:02 |
| sandsmark | oh | 17:03 |
| sandsmark | I don't understand | 17:03 |
| saidinesh5 | long press any key :P | 17:03 |
| sandsmark | longpress isn't onPressAndHold? | 17:03 |
| saidinesh5 | well repeating too but | 17:03 |
| saidinesh5 | more importantly | 17:03 |
| saidinesh5 | you know.. | 17:03 |
| saidinesh5 | all the other keys | 17:04 |
| saidinesh5 | in E key | 17:04 |
| saidinesh5 | or I key | 17:04 |
| saidinesh5 | lol run it and long press a key :P | 17:04 |
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| sandsmark | I do :D | 17:04 |
| zetaz | SK_work : to compile phonebot, I get : RPM build errors: Project ERROR: keepalive development package not found | 17:04 |
| saidinesh5 | no menu opens up? | 17:04 |
| sandsmark | it opens | 17:04 |
| saidinesh5 | mhm thats the long press | 17:05 |
| saidinesh5 | the thing is "swipe shouldnt start if a user longpressed a key" | 17:05 |
| zetaz | SK_work, I installed it manually using "zypper install libkeepalive-devel", and it shows as "installed" if doing zypper info... | 17:05 |
| sandsmark | yeah, but I don't understand why that can't work if all onPressed events are just forwarded to the engine instead of being collected in the UI | 17:05 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahhh | 17:06 |
| SK_work | zetaz: where did you install this ? | 17:06 |
| zetaz | in the build Mer VM | 17:06 |
| SK_work | if you want, you can static-compile everything via CONFIG+=harbour | 17:06 |
| SK_work | :) | 17:06 |
| zetaz | SK_work: ^ | 17:06 |
| SK_work | zetaz: which build mer VM ? | 17:06 |
| SK_work | beware of armv7hl vs i586 | 17:06 |
| zetaz | armv7 | 17:06 |
| SK_work | hum | 17:06 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: umm i cant remember which commit i moved it to the UI. one was to report all the path the user swiped through along with the keys a user pressed at the same time | 17:06 |
| SK_work | weired | 17:06 |
| SK_work | try the CONFIG+=harbour ? | 17:07 |
| zetaz | the one launched by QtCreator | 17:07 |
| SK_work | you have to put it inside qmake options | 17:07 |
| SK_work | CONFIG+=harbour, so that you are not blocked | 17:07 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: hmm, ok | 17:07 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: at first it was predict(inputKeys) , then i moved to preditct(inputKeys, inputPath) | 17:07 |
| saidinesh5 | let me check | 17:07 |
| saidinesh5 | why i moved it to the Ui | 17:07 |
| SK_work | you might need to go to projectdir/src/3rdparty/libnemomw and do a git submodule init && git submodule update | 17:07 |
| sandsmark | okok | 17:08 |
| zetaz | SK_work: yes, I figured that the submodules where not retrieved, and done the init/update thing | 17:08 |
| coderus | git submodule foreach git pull | 17:08 |
| SK_work | coderus: desn't work for multiple layers of submodules | 17:09 |
| SK_work | phonebot have submodule libnemomw, that have submodules itself | 17:09 |
| SK_work | :D | 17:09 |
| coderus | git submodule foreach git submodule foreach git pull | 17:09 |
| SK_work | coderus isn't there a git submodule --recursive or something like that ? | 17:09 |
| coderus | probably | 17:10 |
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| coderus | no pc at hand, only cup of tea :) | 17:10 |
| zetaz | SK_work : I have a bunch of files in the phonebot/src/3rdparty/libnemomw/keepalive directory, so I don't think the problem is on this side | 17:11 |
| SK_work | zetaz: libnemomw stuff is only invoked if you pass CONFIG+=harbour | 17:11 |
| SK_work | (harbour prohibits 3rdparty nemo libs) | 17:11 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: yes that AND to not separate enter key, backspace key etc.. events during a swipe | 17:11 |
| saidinesh5 | thats the main reason i moved the thing to the UI | 17:12 |
| SK_work | if you didn't, phonebot will be built using system dlls | 17:12 |
| SK_work | and keepalive stuff | 17:12 |
| SK_work | I do wonder why it doesn't work | 17:12 |
| SK_work | do you use latest sdk ? | 17:12 |
| zetaz | SK_workk : ok, understood. I'll try that | 17:12 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: ah | 17:12 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: added beginSwipe() and endSwipe(), to let the engine know if a swipe is in progress | 17:12 |
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| saidinesh5 | and manual keyPresses are to be sent directly | 17:13 |
| SK_work | zetaz: yes, the multi-channel, multi-version, one-package way of distributing is painful to manage | 17:13 |
| SK_work | but it is rather ok ATM :) | 17:13 |
| saidinesh5 | the UI takes care of the logic of not triggering a longKeyPress when a swipe is in progress... | 17:13 |
| sandsmark | mm | 17:14 |
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: git pull btw. | 17:22 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: I have to go eat now, bbl | 17:24 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh alright | 17:24 |
| saidinesh5 | pushed the commit you needed | 17:24 |
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| raa700 | damn vkbd arrows, y u not work? | 17:27 |
| cos- | jolla forgot facebook authentication again.. at least it's not fixed yet | 17:28 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: ok, I'll push more multilingual stuff when I get back :D | 17:37 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: okay i think your script had 1 mistake though | 17:38 |
| saidinesh5 | fixed it | 17:38 |
| saidinesh5 | testing it out now | 17:38 |
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| zetaz | SK_work : it looks like it is building using the harbour config flag. I had to put it in almost every .pro, as putting it in the main one didn't seem to have any recursive effect... I don't remember having this problem before with CONFIG flags, but I don't recall using nested subdirs config either. | 18:00 |
| zetaz | SK_work : while building, I finished to decipher the sqlite format to find the path related to an ambiance name (as set by the user, not the picture name) | 18:01 |
| zetaz | I'll put all that in the forum, so that it is easier to find it back | 18:01 |
| zetaz | along with the DBus commands to switch ambiance | 18:02 |
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| muppis | I just get it. I can build and run project once with Beta 1410 . After that all examples disappears and I can't no longer buil nor run any project without reinstalling whole IDE. Bugs me. | 18:11 |
| muppis | I just don't get it... | 18:11 |
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| hzb | any idea why deploying fails with device target (error looks like deploy script is broken -- unexpected EOF -- but it looks like it's not)?, with emulator similar build+deploy goes fine | 18:17 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: ping me when you are back | 18:18 |
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| hzb | that's the exact error: http://pastebin.com/xj4wE1Ur | 18:20 |
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| SK_work | zetaz: why did you put CONFIG+=harbour everywhere ? :( | 18:21 |
| SK_work | go to QtCreator > project tab | 18:21 |
| SK_work | there is a line called "qmake extra arguments" | 18:21 |
| SK_work | put CONFIG+=harbour here | 18:21 |
| SK_work | done :) | 18:21 |
| SK_work | zetaz: there is a DBus command to switch ambience yeah | 18:22 |
| SK_work | but getting ambiences is not easy | 18:22 |
| SK_work | if you can write a library to do this, I will be your client | 18:22 |
| SK_work | it would be MUCH MUCHeasier to implement ambience switching feature | 18:22 |
| SK_work | :) | 18:22 |
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| zetaz | SK_work : "why did you put CONFIG+=harbour everywhere ? " -> because my brain half-melted this afternoon tring to figure out dbus and qml, and I needed to see if that was the fix needed quickly ;) | 18:30 |
| zetaz | don't worry, I thought while doing it "it should work from qmake line", just didn't have the courage to test it... | 18:31 |
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| zetaz | for the ambiance list, maybe we can ask that as a new feature on ambienced ? Give a Dbus interface with the list under the format {"username", "path", "favorite"}. | 18:33 |
| zetaz | Otherwise I'll try to do one lib. Not sure when, but looking at it? | 18:34 |
| zetaz | s/?/./ | 18:34 |
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| meklu | sandsmark: no idea, I used rpm -qf /etc/os-release | 18:42 |
| meklu | nice to hear you resolved it :) | 18:42 |
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| Nc_ | Seeing this in logs suddenly (wasn't there before the update today): "file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Silica/Page.qml:134: TypeError: Cannot read property of null" | 18:43 |
| Nc_ | Something to be worried about? | 18:43 |
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| SK_work | Nc_: not at all | 18:44 |
| SK_work | I have read this all the time since the beginning | 18:45 |
| SK_work | zetaz: yep | 18:45 |
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| Nc_ | Uki... :) | 18:45 |
| hzb | haa, I worked it out! piece of advice to myself and others: don't use ' character in Device name... | 18:45 |
| SK_work | I have sent something in ml, long ago, but neither me, not Jolla did followed up | 18:45 |
| SK_work | :( | 18:45 |
| SK_work | SfietKonstantin: ping | 18:45 |
| SK_work | :D | 18:45 |
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| SK_work | SfietKonstantin: :P | 18:47 |
| zetaz | SK_work: I don't promise anything with christmas holidays coming, but I will try to add ambience switching in phonebot one way or another. You can concentrate on the other millions of things to add ;) | 18:47 |
| SK_work | zetaz: you know, it's good to have some support | 18:49 |
| SK_work | even if it is just a promise | 18:49 |
| SK_work | :) | 18:49 |
| SK_work | next in my task list is connection management | 18:49 |
| SK_work | not an esasy task :( | 18:49 |
| zetaz | SK_work: If I manage to get the ambience done, I will probably be able to add other ones. But I need to concentrate on one at a time as I'm not an expert.... | 18:50 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: hello | 18:54 |
| sandsmark | took long because I had to send my chicken back, so that they could cook it properly :D | 18:55 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: lol well.. be a vegetarian :p | 18:55 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: so git pull | 18:55 |
| sandsmark | yeah, just cleaning up local changes first :D | 18:55 |
| saidinesh5 | mhm | 18:56 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: ah, you're working in the sailfish branch? | 18:56 |
| sandsmark | I switched to master | 18:56 |
| saidinesh5 | i m also in master | 18:56 |
| * saidinesh5 checks | 18:56 | |
| saidinesh5 | ouch | 18:56 |
| saidinesh5 | i was in sailfish | 18:56 |
| sandsmark | :D | 18:56 |
| saidinesh5 | prolly switched absentmindedly | 18:56 |
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: did a tiny fix and a cleanup to teh dictionary analyzer | 18:58 |
| sandsmark | is it okay if I add build-maliit-plugin to skeyer.pro? | 18:58 |
| sandsmark | yeah, saw that | 18:58 |
| sandsmark | my python is pretty rusty, so :D | 18:58 |
| saidinesh5 | umm... | 18:58 |
| sandsmark | I'm scared to push my layout converter, because that code is horrible python | 18:59 |
| SK_work | zetaz: np | 18:59 |
| SK_work | ping me if you have any issue | 18:59 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh heh feel free to push any code | 18:59 |
| saidinesh5 | thats why the raw_material :p | 18:59 |
| zetaz | SK_work: will do. Thanks for help so far by the way ;) | 18:59 |
| sandsmark | yeah :P | 18:59 |
| SK_work | phonebot basically don't have any docs, so it is tricky to understand everything | 18:59 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: actually the reason i moved build-maliit-plugin outside the default is | 19:00 |
| saidinesh5 | because its easier and faster to test the skeyer demo | 19:00 |
| sandsmark | ah | 19:00 |
| saidinesh5 | right now b/c of my QtCreator's settings, for me it makes almost no difference. when i click run, it opens maliit-exampleapp-plainqt | 19:00 |
| saidinesh5 | with the needed variables | 19:00 |
| sandsmark | kk | 19:01 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: you are still testing things with the device? | 19:01 |
| sandsmark | I should probably start using skeyer demo, I kind of forgot it and kept deploying | 19:01 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh | 19:02 |
| sandsmark | yeah | 19:02 |
| sandsmark | :D | 19:02 |
| saidinesh5 | you can actually use maliit desktop too | 19:02 |
| saidinesh5 | thats what i ve been using | 19:02 |
| sandsmark | yeah | 19:02 |
| saidinesh5 | deployment is a lot faster that way | 19:02 |
| SK_work | zetaz: thanks for the TMO post | 19:02 |
| saidinesh5 | okay btw. i think we need to discuss how we want to deal with all the other keylayouts | 19:03 |
| jcbjoe | since this channel is active can we ask off the wall kinda question like where can i find a diffrent baseband / radio for a nexus 4 running salifish os ? | 19:03 |
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| saidinesh5 | was thinking of making a JsonKeyPadComponent {} and give it parts of keyboard to render | 19:04 |
| sandsmark | hmhm | 19:04 |
| Morpog_PC | jcbjoe, #sailfishos-porters would be a better channel for that questions | 19:04 |
| jcbjoe | thanks Morpog_PC | 19:04 |
| saidinesh5 | that way all symbolic/numeric keyboard switching logic can stay in the UI.. or can be eliminated on larger screens like tablets etc... | 19:04 |
| sandsmark | indeed | 19:05 |
| saidinesh5 | and then final keyboard can be | 19:05 |
| saidinesh5 | a loader of the needed keypad component | 19:05 |
| sandsmark | hmm, how do you get qtcreator to run maliit-exampleapp-plainqt? | 19:05 |
| saidinesh5 | run settings | 19:05 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: yeah, that sounds good | 19:05 |
| saidinesh5 | projects > run | 19:05 |
| sandsmark | hmm | 19:05 |
| saidinesh5 | hold | 19:05 |
| saidinesh5 | let me get you all my qtcreator settings | 19:06 |
| sandsmark | oki | 19:06 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: muh: DEBUG: Cant open qrc:/en_US.json | 19:14 |
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| saidinesh5 | umm... | 19:15 |
| saidinesh5 | didnt see that coming | 19:15 |
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| sandsmark | me neither :D | 19:15 |
| sandsmark | I don't remember what we decided wrt. qrc | 19:16 |
| saidinesh5 | well we decided something but nothing changed :P | 19:16 |
| saidinesh5 | at least wrt. the .json files | 19:16 |
| saidinesh5 | because they never used qrc | 19:16 |
| saidinesh5 | looks like SKEYER_DATA_DIR is badly defined | 19:17 |
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: engine.cpp | 19:17 |
| saidinesh5 | QString keyboardFileName = QString("%1/%2/keyboard_layout.json").arg(SKEYER_DATADIR).arg(locale); | 19:17 |
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| saidinesh5 | thats where it would try to load | 19:17 |
| sandsmark | aah | 19:17 |
| sandsmark | my bad | 19:17 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm? | 19:17 |
| sandsmark | I think I munged SKEYER_DATADIR | 19:18 |
| sandsmark | so it isn't defined, so it tries to load it relatively to something | 19:18 |
| saidinesh5 | actually i think you are running the old code... | 19:18 |
| sandsmark | hmm | 19:18 |
| saidinesh5 | because we moved en_US.json to en_US/keyboard_layout.json | 19:18 |
| saidinesh5 | and SKEYER_DATADIR is automatically defined | 19:18 |
| saidinesh5 | usually the PREFIX/share/skeyer is SKEYER_DATADIR | 19:19 |
| sandsmark | true | 19:19 |
| sandsmark | I'm probably picking up an old plugin from somewhere... | 19:19 |
| saidinesh5 | unless it finds maliit framework | 19:19 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 19:19 |
| saidinesh5 | looks like it | 19:19 |
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| sandsmark | indeed I am | 19:19 |
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| saidinesh5 | so it works now? | 19:20 |
| sandsmark | no | 19:21 |
| sandsmark | :V | 19:21 |
| saidinesh5 | hehh weird.. | 19:21 |
| saidinesh5 | could you remove your maliit's servers config file? | 19:21 |
| saidinesh5 | i think it is picking up maliit plugins from another location | 19:21 |
| sandsmark | I just changed it to 2 onscreen\active=/home/sandsmark/src/skeyer/maliit_plugin/libskeyerplugin.so:en_US | 19:21 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah | 19:21 |
| saidinesh5 | not sure if it would pick it up that way | 19:22 |
| sandsmark | well, it gets loaded :D | 19:22 |
| sandsmark | if I remove it it complains that it can't find any plugins | 19:22 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah | 19:22 |
| saidinesh5 | weird.. | 19:22 |
| saidinesh5 | i m not sure how exactly qt's plugin system works | 19:22 |
| saidinesh5 | maliit plugins are qtplugins | 19:23 |
| sandsmark | ok, it does run new code, because if I add some random qWarnings it prints them | 19:23 |
| saidinesh5 | oh | 19:23 |
| saidinesh5 | yet it asks for en_US.json? | 19:23 |
| sandsmark | yup | 19:23 |
| saidinesh5 | weiiiiiiird. | 19:23 |
| sandsmark | bah | 19:24 |
| sandsmark | lib/engine.cpp: else qDebug()<<"Cant open qrc:/en_US.json"; | 19:24 |
| sandsmark | that's why :D | 19:24 |
| sandsmark | the error message is just hardcoded | 19:24 |
| saidinesh5 | lol | 19:24 |
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| saidinesh5 | touche | 19:24 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah found it | 19:24 |
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| saidinesh5 | git pull and see what file it was trying to search for | 19:26 |
| sandsmark | yeah, found it | 19:27 |
| sandsmark | I just fixed the DATADIR | 19:27 |
| sandsmark | should work now :D | 19:27 |
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| saidinesh5 | Ahh fix = ? | 19:27 |
| saidinesh5 | and is it working? | 19:28 |
| saidinesh5 | afaik this was where i had trouble with maliit-framework from maliit folks | 19:28 |
| saidinesh5 | and had to use ubuntu's maliit | 19:28 |
| sandsmark | well, it wants to load it from /usr | 19:28 |
| saidinesh5 | O_o | 19:28 |
| sandsmark | I tried overriding it by setting DATADIR = /home/sandsmark/src/skeyer/data | 19:29 |
| saidinesh5 | looks like your environment variables were bad | 19:29 |
| sandsmark | indeedly | 19:29 |
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| saidinesh5 | Ahh did you first do a local install of maliit framework? | 19:29 |
| sandsmark | no, it's installed from my package manager | 19:29 |
| saidinesh5 | aaah | 19:29 |
| sandsmark | that's why I upstreamed my fix to it :D | 19:29 |
| saidinesh5 | makes sense | 19:29 |
| saidinesh5 | package manager = yaourt? | 19:29 |
| sandsmark | yup | 19:30 |
| sandsmark | :p | 19:30 |
| saidinesh5 | hehhe | 19:30 |
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| sandsmark | theeere we go | 19:31 |
| saidinesh5 | cool | 19:31 |
| saidinesh5 | so just environment variables or something else too? | 19:32 |
| sandsmark | well, I hacked config.pri | 19:32 |
| sandsmark | to point to the right paths :P | 19:32 |
| saidinesh5 | ahh | 19:32 |
| sandsmark | now just this: Invalid parameter '-bypass-wm-hint' | 19:32 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah buggy upstream :p | 19:32 |
| sandsmark | the plugin is loaded, though | 19:33 |
| sandsmark | just doesn't display anything :D | 19:33 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah | 19:33 |
| saidinesh5 | sounds about right :P | 19:33 |
| saidinesh5 | THIS is what took me a lot of time | 19:33 |
| saidinesh5 | until the ubuntu folks told me it was bad upstream | 19:33 |
| saidinesh5 | let me check though | 19:34 |
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| sandsmark | yet another patch they didn't upstream? :P | 19:35 |
| saidinesh5 | not sure they had 9 patches in total | 19:35 |
| saidinesh5 | about 9 | 19:35 |
| saidinesh5 | one was your fi | 19:35 |
| saidinesh5 | fix | 19:35 |
| sandsmark | yeah, ok | 19:35 |
| sandsmark | but ugh, why not upstream it instead of complain... | 19:35 |
| saidinesh5 | they cant yet upstream cuz their mir related plans are not.. complete/concrete | 19:36 |
| saidinesh5 | thats how even my mir patch is on pause for now | 19:36 |
| sandsmark | well, these are simple fixes :D | 19:36 |
| * saidinesh5 shrugs | 19:36 | |
| saidinesh5 | i hate launchpad :P | 19:36 |
| saidinesh5 | or bzr | 19:36 |
| saidinesh5 | samething :P | 19:36 |
| sandsmark | yeah :p | 19:36 |
| SK_work | sandsmark: saidinesh5 what are you trying to build actually ? | 19:36 |
| sandsmark | SK_work: a swipeable keyboard | 19:37 |
| saidinesh5 | SK_work: a swipelike keybaord: http://saidinesh5.wordpress.com/2014/12/15/skeyer-on-ubuntu-touch-and-sailfish-os/ | 19:37 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: 's video is also there :p | 19:37 |
| sandsmark | or, "appendage-dragging" to avoid trademark infringement | 19:37 |
| saidinesh5 | gesturebased keyboard :P | 19:37 |
| sandsmark | yeah | 19:37 |
| SK_work | Oo | 19:37 |
| SK_work | awesome | 19:37 |
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| SK_work | keep me posted on this | 19:37 |
| saidinesh5 | aye :) | 19:37 |
| SK_work | + put it on github or somewhere (if it uses bzr :/) | 19:38 |
| saidinesh5 | aye | 19:38 |
| sandsmark | no, no bzr :P | 19:38 |
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| ryukafalz | ooh, predictive keyboard on sailfish looks nice :D | 20:02 |
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| muppis | Meh.. I made translation for GPSinfo, but I don't have github account. Is there any other way to pass it to the author? | 20:50 |
| sandsmark | mail? | 20:50 |
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| coderus | muppis: create github account is easy :) | 20:50 |
| coderus | *what wrong with this internet?..* | 20:50 |
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| muppis | coderus, I know it's easy, but I don't know do I want. :D | 20:51 |
| muppis | sandsmark, couldn't find an address. | 20:51 |
| coderus | muppis: /wc if you dont know/dont want ;) | 20:51 |
| sandsmark | but yeah, github is pretty cumbersome | 20:52 |
| sandsmark | have to fork and do pull requests and stuff | 20:52 |
| muppis | coderus, I'll probably do someday it as I'm developing my apps for Sailfish OS, so I might not have other choice than do an account. :D | 20:53 |
| sandsmark | git send-email is so much simpler | 20:54 |
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| coderus | sure, coderus, just ignore this :D | 20:56 |
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| muppis | But I'm not hurry. If you can't instantly say the way send the file, I'll wait till I need to do that account. :D | 21:04 |
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| SfietKonstantin | zetaz: btw | 21:07 |
| SfietKonstantin | your failure in building phonebot might be related to the fact that there are two yaml files in rpm folder | 21:07 |
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| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: I remember seeing a warning concerning spec file (I removed one from the .pro, without any change), but yaml may be concerned too | 21:08 |
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| zetaz | I was afk since my last message, so didn't yet had time to finish building phonebot.... I'm back to it | 21:09 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm building it ATM :) | 21:10 |
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| coderus | https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-search-text-page-browser updated for u10 | 22:28 |
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| ABeam | hi! | 22:39 |
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| Yaniel | hi | 22:49 |
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| adriaan | hi! | 22:50 |
| adriaan | Is there anybody out there? | 22:51 |
| Tegu | yea (though I'm probably not be able to help with anything but still :P) | 22:52 |
| Tegu | hi | 22:52 |
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| phaeron | the truth is out there | 22:53 |
| adriaan | :D ok, for a moment I thought I wouldn't get any response | 22:56 |
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| adriaan | I recently acquired a Jolla phone and since I'm a fairly skilled programmer I thought I'd try to build an app for SailfishOS. But this is my first experience with Qt/Mer/... | 22:57 |
| adriaan | I'm having some trouble finding documentation on how to get started... A simple list of available device/platform API's and some basic examples on how to access them would be enough to get me started I think | 22:58 |
| adriaan | Anyone have any hints/useful links/... for me? | 22:58 |
| sandsmark | adriaan: well, what kind of APIs are you looking for? | 23:01 |
| sandsmark | adriaan: are you familiar with DBUS? | 23:01 |
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| ryukafalz | For UI stuff, it'll be QML with Silica: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/ | 23:02 |
| ryukafalz | for sensor access and the like, it's standard Qt - though I'm not sure offhand if there's a list of APIs that are available (relevant documentation: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/mobiledevelopment.html) | 23:02 |
| adriaan | Well, for a first project I have in mind just some pointers on using OAuth/REST API would be enough, but in general I'd like to get a feel of what's already possible with the platform (for example with regards to accounts integration, messages, ...) | 23:03 |
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| adriaan | (I realize OAuth/REST is not a device API, but it could be that there is some built-in API already available so I don't have to include it into my project myself) | 23:04 |
| sandsmark | I don't think it ships with a oauth library, but I'm not sure | 23:05 |
| sandsmark | there are a ton of oauth libraries for qt, though | 23:06 |
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| sandsmark | https://github.com/pipacs/o2 for example | 23:07 |
| adriaan | @sandsmark I also have some experience in working with dbus in bash,php,node scripts, but never used in in Qt/C++ | 23:07 |
| sandsmark | adriaan: a lot of the middleware in mer is based on dbus | 23:08 |
| adriaan | But if I understand you correctly, I would have to pick an OAuth-implementation out there and include that (copy the source code) into my own project? | 23:08 |
| sandsmark | yeah | 23:09 |
| sandsmark | o2 seems to be fairly straightforward, though | 23:09 |
| sandsmark | oh, and qml is mostly js-based, btw. | 23:09 |
| sandsmark | you don't really need to write much c++ unless you want to | 23:09 |
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| adriaan | That's a nice thing to know :) I have worked with C++ before, but it's been a long time so I'm a bit rusty :p But the Qt-approach is completely new to me... Anyway, I suppose trial-and-error is the best way to get the hang of it :p | 23:11 |
| sandsmark | well, that's how I do it | 23:11 |
| sandsmark | but Qt has extensive documentation if you want to sit down and read :P | 23:12 |
| sandsmark | luckily the reference API documentation is (imho) even better | 23:12 |
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| adriaan | I'm trying to find my way around there right now, but for now I still get the feeling like I'm a bit lost in the woods :p But I expect that will be improving over the next few days as I dive in deeper :) | 23:15 |
| sandsmark | yeah | 23:15 |
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| sandsmark | I learnt qt by just hacking away until stuff worked | 23:15 |
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| sandsmark | imho, the qt APIs are pretty intuitive, so it's actually a good way to learn it :p | 23:16 |
| adriaan | Getting back to dbus, is there some inventory of interfaces that is available or would I have to try introspecting those that I might be interested in at random to find out if they are there or not? | 23:16 |
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| adriaan | I'm thinking about accounts integration for example... | 23:17 |
| sandsmark | it's very varying to what degree they're documented, so the best way I've found is to introspect | 23:17 |
| sandsmark | the best solution is probably to look at existing applications | 23:17 |
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| sandsmark | most of the existing (third-party) applications for sailfish are on github | 23:17 |
| zetaz | adriaan : take a look there : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92303 | 23:18 |
| zetaz | and dbus-monitor is your friend... | 23:18 |
| zetaz | found the calls to change the ambience using it this afternoon | 23:19 |
| adriaan | Ok, thanks @sandsmark for your help and encouraging words ;) I'll just dive in and expect to become wiser over time :p If I get stuck I'm soon I'll be back :p | 23:20 |
| lachs0r | and freedesktop.org specs are there too, depending on what you want | 23:20 |
| adriaan | zetaz, is dbus-monitor that's already present on the device and that I can run from terminal? | 23:20 |
| adriaan | Or is there some setup required? | 23:21 |
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| sandsmark | adriaan: yeah, asking questions here is a good way to learn as well | 23:21 |
| zetaz | adriaan : I don't think I have done something specific, so it should be there... | 23:21 |
| sandsmark | adriaan: most normal development tools are on the phone | 23:21 |
| sandsmark | (like dbus-monitor) | 23:21 |
| sandsmark | or available in the mer-tools repo that you can easily enable | 23:21 |
| jcbjoe | is it hard to install warehouse ? | 23:22 |
| sandsmark | no | 23:22 |
| sandsmark | jcbjoe: download the rpm from here and tap it: https://openrepos.net/content/basil/warehouse-sailfishos | 23:24 |
| jcbjoe | thanks | 23:25 |
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| jcbjoe | sandsmark: hi thanks for that link .. im getting the whole can install from untrsted source .. do i have to follow https://together.jolla.com/question/30926/howto-install-google-play/ to allow installing this repo - https://together.jolla.com/question/30926/howto-install-google-play/ ? or do i need to stay in #sailfishos-porters for this ? | 23:39 |
| jcbjoe | i just want to test out the app warehouse | 23:40 |
| sandsmark | ah, you need to go into settings and allow installing third-party packages | 23:40 |
| jcbjoe | k | 23:40 |
| sandsmark | settings → system → security, third choice | 23:40 |
| jcbjoe | one sec sandsmark let me resetart irc its acting up | 23:41 |
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| jcbjoe | sandsmark: what did you say again ? | 23:41 |
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| sandsmark | jcbjoe: go to settings -> system -> security -> unsigned packages (third choice, I have it in norwegian so not sure what it is in english) | 23:42 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: trying to run maliit on my laptop is hilarious | 23:47 |
| sandsmark | it shows the keyboard, but I can't click it :p | 23:48 |
| sandsmark | ok, got that to work | 23:50 |
| sandsmark | now it just won't send any of the words to the test application | 23:51 |
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| Elleo | '1 | 23:56 |
| Elleo | oops | 23:56 |
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