Wednesday, 2015-01-14

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Guest202Is there an easy way to make your own device lock?06:14
Guest202I'm interesed in a scramblepad style lock06:14
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JonniGuest202: easy way no, but hard way with patching the qml files etc, yes possible in theory.06:32
cryoratJonni, some of the devs are working on it06:44
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kimmolicoderus has his maze lock07:17
tortoisedocbtw07:18
tortoisedocis there an update coming up this month?07:18
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TemeVJolla had a good strategy on delaying the previous update that much. Now there is much less update querys :)07:37
Nicd-they delayed it because everyone asked when it's coming out07:40
Nicd-now tortoisedoc delayed the next update for a day again ;)07:40
tortoisedocNicd- : damn got me again :P07:44
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tortoisedocupdate_delay ++ :P07:48
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daitheflumorning !08:31
Yanielmorning08:31
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zGrrmoin :)08:37
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micko_I have TextFields in ListView. How do I read .text from there?12:22
Aardtortoisedoc: hopefully yes. I'm currently finalizing rc2 for the next update12:25
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coderusGuest202: what is "scramblepad style lock12:28
sandsmarklike those puzzles?12:29
sandsmarkhttp://maggiemcneill.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/number-puzzle.jpg12:30
sandsmarkidunno12:30
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coderusmaybe like this? http://i.imgur.com/14o8JHp.png12:40
sandsmarkyeah12:41
Juubathe what now?12:41
sandsmarkat least if I understood correctly :D12:41
Juubarandomizes keypad?12:41
sandsmarkyeah12:41
sandsmarksomething I've wanted to try to implement is a safe-like rotating lock12:42
sandsmarkso rotate back and forth with tactitle feedback12:42
sandsmarkvery swipy12:42
JuubaI read that as testicle feedback... O.o12:42
sandsmarkhaha12:43
sandsmarkthis kind of lock: http://locktech24hourlocksmith.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Safe_Lock.jpg12:43
Nicd-safe lock TOH? :)12:43
Juuba:D12:43
sandsmarkhaha, that would be cool actually!12:44
sandsmarkmostly for the novelty, though12:44
Juubaimmensive *knob* on the other half?12:44
Juubaimmersive*12:44
sandsmarkmight need a flat dial, though12:45
sandsmarkotherwise it would be awkward to have in the pants12:46
krnlyngwasn't there a application for checking rpms for store conformity?12:48
sandsmarkhttps://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sdk-harbour-rpmvalidator/12:49
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coderuskimmoli: there is validator in qtc12:53
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kimmolicoderus: ?12:53
kimmolihttp://127.0.0.1:8080/C/harbour_tools/12:53
coderuskrnlyng: ^12:53
coderusyep12:53
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coderusk <tab> :D12:54
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krnlyngcoderus, kimmoli ty12:55
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coderusbut actually validator in qtc may be outdated sometimes12:56
coderusand for me it showed wrond result, so i used one from repo :D12:56
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tortoisedocgood good13:10
tortoisedocgreat to hear one more update is coming ^^13:10
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Armadillowill we get another update this month?13:19
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Armadillo(delayed by two days now :D)13:19
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anandrkrisHi - (repeating yesterday's conversation) In Android App Quora, using Back button minimizes the App13:44
anandrkrisMost of the other Android apps I've used only close...just curious how it could happen?13:45
anandrkrisin terms of Alien Dalvik and Jolla interfacing, is there a signal which it uses to minimize?13:45
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coderusanandrkris: it's defined by developer. there are no bugs or magic.13:51
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anandrkrishmm...ok so by default most android apps are defined to close on back wherein Quora is defined to minimize13:56
* Aard stares at w00t:13:56
nazanin:D13:56
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Safa_[A_boy]Hello. Is there any emulator for this OS works on Linux?14:15
Nicd-yes, it's included in the SDK14:16
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Safa_[A_boy]I'll look at it!14:18
Safa_[A_boy]Just 700 MB? :)14:18
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tbrSafa_[A_boy]: contains two virtual machines, one encapsulates a build system with targets, the other a complete emulator14:22
chem|stanandrkris: that is why you cannot tell if an app is closed or still running on android devices - both will end up in your taskmanager - on Jolla you "see" what actually happens14:22
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chem|stas there is no last-used-but-not-running apps on home-screen14:23
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Safa_[A_boy]tbr: It's ok for me to download that size, But the server is somehow slow..14:24
Safa_[A_boy]278Kib only14:24
tbrSafa_[A_boy]: it used to be a fairly good CDN.14:25
anandrkrischem|st: yeah, i get it14:25
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Guest202coderus: the numbers are in random order so you can't guess the code from the marks on the screen15:25
Guest202coderus: like http://www.americansafeinc.com/i/scramble-pad.jpg15:26
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coderusGuest202: this one? http://i.imgur.com/14o8JHp.png15:36
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cybojenixooo. coderus, sailfish is getting pin shuffle?15:53
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coderuscybojenix: i made this patch in last year. am i forget to release it? ;D16:39
cybojenixI don't know, I've still not put it on my devices16:40
cybojenixis there python support for the apps yet?16:40
Yanielyes16:41
cybojenixoo yay. I'll probably start messing in a month or so then16:41
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coderuspython support already, now support to publish python appps in store :)16:53
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ryukafalzcoderus: have you posted that anywhere? that looks rather nice o.o17:58
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coderusryukafalz: i don't remember. if it's not on openrepos i need to publish it soon LD18:27
coderus;D18:27
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tortoisedoccoderus : what? :P18:29
coderustortoisedoc: this one: http://i.imgur.com/14o8JHp.png18:32
tortoisedocah the scrambled lockpad18:33
tortoisedockewl18:33
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coderuswill update my gf jolla to latest version now and will review and upload all patches :)18:40
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tortoisedocgrr18:52
tortoisedocno matter what I do18:52
tortoisedocQCoreApplication::arguments() returns an empty qstringlist on second call18:52
tortoisedocwtf18:52
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tortoisedocwp19:02
tortoisedocwow19:02
tortoisedochttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/12135577/users-arguments-are-empty-with-qcoreapplication-in-mysterious-cases19:02
tortoisedoc:D19:02
tortoisedocincredible `^19:03
tortoisedocincredible ^^19:03
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Nokius__oh the product page miss the new TOH :o19:29
Nokius__looks great @ Jolla Crew!!!!!19:29
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tortoisedocmore covers! finally!19:31
Nokius__and more hope Jolla will not change the hole device for a Jolla II :D Lon live the TOH !!19:33
satmd:)19:34
r0kk3rzwould be pretty mean of them to drop the idea 2nd device in19:36
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r0kk3rzsince that would guarantee all tohkbd owners wouldnt but one19:36
r0kk3rz*buy19:36
coderusyou mean we will stop using tohkbd with first jolla when we will get second generation?19:42
coderuswe will want new tohkbd for new jolla, not the same old tohkbd.19:42
r0kk3rzif thats required sure19:44
r0kk3rzbut if they drop the idea of the smart cover all together, i dont see any keyboarders buying the j219:45
tortoisedochm19:46
tortoisedocwhats the point of dropping it, if you just swap the main part of the cover - ie the phone, you can have j2 straight away with all your covers, no? :P19:46
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Nightmare__are those new TOH with custom sounds like aloe and black?19:50
Nokius__Nightmare__: yes19:57
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Nokius__Nightmare__: color light green and pink :D19:57
Nokius__I hope Jolla II is not bigger the Jolla (I) has perfect size | for me19:58
Nightmare__yes i saw the colors, but it only says it's with a new ambience but nothing about other sounds (maybe it's like the white one with std sounds)19:58
Nokius__Nightmare__: I assume it has Wallpaer and sound :019:59
Nightmare__atleast it has DHL shipping and not terrible fedex :D20:00
Nokius__fedex works well for me20:00
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Yanielfor me jolla 1 is a bit too large20:01
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Nokius__Yaniel: yes a bit20:03
Nightmare__not in my town, they never showed up, put a letter into the mailbox they want to came tomorrow again, they didn't. just called me to say they have been there 2 times i should drive 50 km my self and pick it up....20:03
Nokius__SO LETS HOPE NO JOLLA PHABLET!20:03
Nokius__:(20:03
Nightmare__so never fedex again20:03
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Nokius__BasilSemuonov_: will try the color Icon the next days and will ping again :D20:14
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tortoisedocPhablet rulez20:17
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tortoisedocim happy with the jolla tablet20:17
tortoisedocbut a phablet would have been perfect20:17
tortoisedocunlike choice20:17
r0kk3rzNokius__:  to be fair, sailfish would be fine with a big screen20:18
r0kk3rzbecause of pulley menus and general swipeiness20:19
Nokius__^^20:19
r0kk3rzbut they really only need to skinny up the bezels on the j120:19
r0kk3rzfit a bigger screen without a bigger everything else20:19
Nokius__YES!20:19
Nokius__:D20:20
Nokius__hope Jolla listen atm :P20:20
r0kk3rztheir designers are fairly uncompromising20:21
* Nokius__ gn820:22
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tortoisedochmhm20:27
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lukdirtwalkercan we not simply edit the devices.xml in the vmshare folder to add devices?20:35
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coderusMazeLock patch updated for u10 and released on OpenRepos: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-mazelock20:47
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tortoisedoccoderus : what is the best way to debug input processing internals of qml engine21:11
coderusqml debugger/inspector?21:15
coderusqml profiler21:16
coderusright name :)21:16
coderusit's in qtc21:16
coderusbut you need to slightly modify project to allow profiling21:16
coderustell me all available media players with MPRIS2 support please!21:16
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r0kk3rzjolla-media, quasarmx, sirensong21:20
r0kk3rzafaik21:20
r0kk3rznot sure whether daedalus does or not21:20
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tortoisedoccoderus : thanks!21:26
coderusr0kk3rz: how to add music to sirensong?21:28
r0kk3rzyou dont, it uses tracker21:28
r0kk3rzbut all of your music might be written in russian21:29
r0kk3rzwhich is a problem i have yet to fix21:29
r0kk3rzalbum view might work21:29
coderusall of my music might be written in russian? why? :D21:29
coderusah, sort by artist works, sort by song not21:30
r0kk3rzie the id3 tags might be using the cyrillic alphabet, which will  break the alpha menu21:31
coderusi have only twor ussian songs :D21:32
coderusi mean, i can't understand application logics21:32
coderusit shows authors21:32
coderusbut how to play song? :D21:32
r0kk3rztap on a song21:32
r0kk3rzit will play21:32
coderusunder artists i see albums only21:33
coderusclicking on album does nothing21:33
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r0kk3rzinteresting21:33
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r0kk3rzit works for most of my albums, a few dont21:34
r0kk3rzim surprised the song menu doesnt work though, provided song titles are in english alphabet21:35
coderushope you logging something to stdout21:36
r0kk3rznot really, theres not much to log21:38
r0kk3rzjust look at your music library with tracker-info21:38
r0kk3rzto see how its getting tagged21:38
coderusand WHY THE HELL you using uppercase letters in package name?!21:38
coderushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/975218021:38
coderushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/975218121:39
coderusbtw, i have jolla mediaplayer uninstalled21:40
coderusonly using quasarmx21:40
r0kk3rzthat shouldnt make a difference, as tracker is still there21:41
coderussure21:41
coderushow to use tracker-info?21:41
coderushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/975219521:41
coderusanyway21:41
coderusi hope it will work for those who using it :)21:42
r0kk3rzno tags!21:42
r0kk3rzwhich is really weird21:42
r0kk3rzas there should be filename tags21:42
r0kk3rzand basic, its a mp3 file stuff21:42
r0kk3rzbut no mind, mpris stuff works with pebbled21:43
r0kk3rzso should work with your lockscreen thingie21:43
coderusokay21:44
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coderusLockscreen mediaplayer controls patch released on OpenRepos: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-lockscreen-mediaplayer-controls21:50
tortoisedocmikkoh : ping21:52
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coderusSailfishOS Patch: Scramble lockpad buttons first released on OpenRepos: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-scramble-lockpad-buttons22:45
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