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| Nokius_ | faenil: yes I tried all the widh and than I resolved my issue (21:55 CET) No was mostly unhappy about that the weekend is over no time for coding now .... | 07:08 |
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| muppis | coderus, fstrim is in cron by default. Smart -status is fine and Kingston's software said Lifetime 100%. Hopefully not a SandForce -bug again. | 07:51 |
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| daitheflu | hi :) | 08:43 |
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| tachikoma | moin | 09:45 |
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| Flexman | where can brose sailfish os apps? | 11:09 |
| Flexman | eh... browse | 11:09 |
| ernesti | open the store app on your jolla phone? | 11:11 |
| ernesti | iirc the only way currently | 11:12 |
| urjaman | (thats stupid btw...) | 11:13 |
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| muppis | Sailfish OS lacks of proper appstore. Having like Google had for android at the begin would be a good start. Ability to browse at PC and installing by reading a QR from screen. | 11:16 |
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| muppis | Easies a lot, if not willing a make daemon for it. Which personally I don't really like, although it's handy. | 11:18 |
| ikarus | .... | 11:18 |
| ikarus | Well, it is an easily fixable problem | 11:18 |
| ikarus | btw, anyone knew that Jolla has extended WebView with cookie managment and possibly some other functionality | 11:18 |
| ikarus | because I didn't, I had to accidentally see a commit message in a google search to learn about that | 11:19 |
| ikarus | silly Q though, I have a SDL based application, can I still get a cover ? | 11:25 |
| ikarus | or would I need to port the application or SDL to use Qt QML to get that (or can I use some indirection trick) | 11:25 |
| RavenholmDX | Anyone have a pebble watch? | 11:28 |
| ikarus | RavenholmDX: I am still waiting for a girly sized one | 11:29 |
| RavenholmDX | are you female or just dainty wristed? :P | 11:29 |
| Flexman | ernesti: oh well i wanted to look on the internet what apps are available... so i don't have any phone yet | 11:32 |
| Flexman | but i had a look at https://openrepos.net/ | 11:32 |
| Flexman | i mean on my palm i didn't need an appstore... :) so if you just can install linux programs on your jolla that also sounds fine | 11:32 |
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| ernesti | Flexman, you can check android apps on aptoide store, harbour has a very limited amount of apps and there is nothing from the likes of facebook/google/whatsapp etc | 11:38 |
| Flexman | ernesti: yes i know but i would like to look for native apps. i don't need facebook und whatsapp anyway... | 11:39 |
| Flexman | but i'd need some messenger for jabber/icq/google talk/skype, some mail client with identities, navigation, hiking app, etc. | 11:40 |
| Flexman | i also noticed that there was an app for flying/sailing on the N9. seems that this was a linux port | 11:40 |
| Flexman | that's interesting, so there might be more serious programs than on anrdoid | 11:41 |
| coderus | Flexman: generic messengers are builtin | 11:42 |
| coderus | skype only android one | 11:42 |
| ikarus | RavenholmDX: yes | 11:42 |
| muppis | coderus, any progress about WhatsApp? | 11:43 |
| RavenholmDX | I'm thinking of picking one up in the US ikarus | 11:43 |
| coderus | muppis: about whatsapp no | 11:43 |
| RavenholmDX | $199 seems like a decent price ofr the Steel | 11:43 |
| coderus | still porting libaxolotl to qt :) | 11:43 |
| ikarus | RavenholmDX: if you don't mind normal men's watches, they are decent, they are pretty huge for me | 11:43 |
| RavenholmDX | yeah I can imagine | 11:44 |
| ikarus | the design is good, the tech is fun, but the size is yegads | 11:44 |
| RavenholmDX | they pretty seem big in general | 11:44 |
| muppis | coderus, ok. :) | 11:44 |
| ikarus | I haven't found a single women's "smartwatch" | 11:44 |
| RavenholmDX | I think the problem is having a usable display on a small watchface | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | ikarus: http://www.ablogtowatch.com/montblanc-e-strap-combines-smart-wearable-device-mechanical-watch-timewalker-urban-speed-collection/ could probably help that bit | 11:45 |
| RavenholmDX | it's already a challenge fitting a touch UI into an oversized watchface | 11:45 |
| ikarus | RavenholmDX: most of the time I just would want a output + two/three buttons | 11:46 |
| RavenholmDX | what about something like the Microsoft one ikarus? | 11:46 |
| ikarus | RavenholmDX: I thought that one was on the scope of the Pebble | 11:46 |
| RavenholmDX | https://recodetech.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/microsoft-band_hero_2.png | 11:47 |
| RavenholmDX | what do you mean? | 11:47 |
| ikarus | I know Razr is working on a bracelet one, but it uses a walled garden app development model, so they can go masturbate with a razerwire dildo | 11:47 |
| RavenholmDX | lol | 11:47 |
| RavenholmDX | Pebble seems to work pretty well with Sailfish thanks to pebbled etc. | 11:48 |
| RavenholmDX | others, not so much | 11:48 |
| ikarus | RavenholmDX: no idea of the size of the one you linked, but it seems to be focussed on stuff I don't really need | 11:48 |
| RavenholmDX | if they do start to take off, maybe Jolla will look into them | 11:48 |
| ikarus | I want it to show me reminders, notices, etc primarily | 11:48 |
| ikarus | RavenholmDX: I'd rather have someone work with Pebble to size them down | 11:48 |
| flux | pebble steel is pretty nice, though the pebbled isn't yet complete, and there are some other small issues (ie. 'x new mails' indicator instead of the subject) | 11:49 |
| ikarus | 30% downscaling would put them in a good scale | 11:49 |
| flux | (also it seems I need to RMA my pebble steel only after a week, screen corruption :-/) | 11:49 |
| ikarus | I see this with all geekywatches btw, I work with some folk on one (that isn't a smart one, but is geeky) | 11:50 |
| ikarus | and it's so big that it looks ridiculous on me | 11:51 |
| ikarus | butch lesbian look ridiculous, so if you are into that | 11:51 |
| RavenholmDX | flux, you recently got a steel? | 11:51 |
| flux | well, pebble steel is at least smaller than the plain pebble. it could be a bit more thin, but I think it's very reasonably sized. | 11:52 |
| flux | ravenholmdx, yes | 11:52 |
| RavenholmDX | how's the sailfish integration? | 11:52 |
| RavenholmDX | is it reliable at least? | 11:52 |
| flux | yes, that's reliable | 11:52 |
| flux | you get new notifications | 11:52 |
| flux | and apparently the apps on the pebble can access the webs alright | 11:52 |
| flux | uploading has issues | 11:52 |
| RavenholmDX | issues? | 11:52 |
| flux | I had to upload a couple apps with an android, pebbled wouldn't do it | 11:52 |
| ikarus | flux: yeah, but I like the plasticcy original look better and the steel isn't that much smaller | 11:52 |
| coderus | ikarus: gear fit? | 11:53 |
| ikarus | well, it's not much thinner mostly | 11:53 |
| flux | fortunately I have access to android devices at work, otherwise I might be more annoyed :). because I did think that at least that part would work, before buying it.. (and it does work, just not for every app, which is strange) | 11:54 |
| ikarus | coderus: that one is bigger then the pebble in two important directions | 11:54 |
| ikarus | it's just narrower) | 11:54 |
| RavenholmDX | ah flux, can you use the Android pebble app on Jolla to do that? | 11:54 |
| RavenholmDX | or do you need an actual device | 11:54 |
| flux | ravenholmdx, actual device | 11:55 |
| ikarus | coderus: but it might help to make it look smaller | 11:55 |
| flux | ravenholmdx, because bluetooth doesn't work in dalvik | 11:55 |
| RavenholmDX | oh | 11:55 |
| RavenholmDX | is there any media players that work with it yet? | 11:55 |
| flux | also firmware upgrade needs to be done with the android app | 11:55 |
| flux | my came with 1.4.1 (I think) and the newest firmware is 2.8.1 | 11:55 |
| flux | ravenholmdx, I think pebbled supports the standard media control interfaces in jolla | 11:55 |
| flux | but I haven't tried them, because I use mostly the sailfish sky.fm/di.fm client (doesn't support it) or play videos (not applicaple) | 11:56 |
| ikarus | I've been tempted to call some suppliers and atleast get a quote on what it would take to get a subsized Pebble made | 11:56 |
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| ikarus | (25-30% reduction over the original model) | 11:57 |
| flux | ikarus, with worse battery life? | 11:57 |
| flux | I think it's not a trivial venture, otherwise they'd have done it :) | 11:57 |
| coderus | ikarus: you need LG SmartWatch R then with custom bracelet | 11:58 |
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| ikarus | flux: I can settle for worse battery life | 11:58 |
| RavenholmDX | FINALLY | 11:59 |
| ikarus | coderus: well, the benefit of going for Pebble is the supported apps | 11:59 |
| RavenholmDX | Ireland is getting passport cards | 11:59 |
| ikarus | RavenholmDX: you mean EU Identity Cards, a passport needs room for stamps | 11:59 |
| flux | ikarus, how much worse? if you take 20-30% of the total clock volume off, it could mean 50-80% less in battery volume. | 11:59 |
| RavenholmDX | ikarus, no | 11:59 |
| SpeedEvil | ikarus: esp8266 + http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/1-13inch-Round-OLED_621657930.html - bring it in at $4 | 11:59 |
| RavenholmDX | it's a passport | 11:59 |
| ikarus | flux: I am fine with 2 days expected life | 11:59 |
| flux | or who knows, maybe the battery already takes 30% of the volume :-) | 11:59 |
| RavenholmDX | Electronic Passport | 11:59 |
| RavenholmDX | http://img.rasset.ie/000a11c0-642.jpg | 12:00 |
| RavenholmDX | you still need a passport book for travelling outside of the EEC, for visas etc. like you mentioned | 12:00 |
| ikarus | I wish I could hold both a passport and a EU card, so I could just shove the card in my wallet for EU stuff (I can stumble across the border) and passport if I need to pester people in the USA or Canada | 12:01 |
| RavenholmDX | yeah | 12:02 |
| RavenholmDX | well the good thing about the card is just being able to use it for things like alcohol etc. | 12:02 |
| coderus | ikarus: sure, but you need supported wrist also :D | 12:02 |
| ikarus | flux: but current battery life is 5-7 days on the original one | 12:02 |
| ikarus | RavenholmDX: I have my drivers license for that | 12:02 |
| flux | ikarus, but my point is: do you know it can be made small enough even if the battery was removed completely? | 12:03 |
| RavenholmDX | My license has expired ikarus, and even so, Irish drivers license is a paper document (unless you have a new one) | 12:03 |
| ikarus | flux: I just checked, there are now epaper displays of the same resolution, 30% smaller | 12:03 |
| RavenholmDX | ikarus, do you really want that though? | 12:03 |
| RavenholmDX | it's hard enough to read the information as it is | 12:03 |
| flux | well, I could do with a smaller display on pebble | 12:03 |
| ikarus | RavenholmDX: probably, yes | 12:04 |
| flux | it's not like I read documents from it | 12:04 |
| RavenholmDX | I'd probably prioritize reducing the size of the bezel if anything | 12:04 |
| flux | it would seem to me there is not a lot of wasted space here: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Pebble+Teardown/13319 | 12:05 |
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| flux | in fact, I've never seen a board so tightly packed with chips :) | 12:05 |
| ikarus | flux: more globtops | 12:05 |
| SpeedEvil | or more integrations | 12:07 |
| flux | yeah, I think it's more reasonable (and not very reasonable even then..) to integrate everything into one ic | 12:07 |
| RavenholmDX | they could probably slim down the bezel/casing a good bit if they removed the buttons | 12:07 |
| ikarus | they could switch to LED sensing | 12:08 |
| ikarus | looking at the tear down, they can probably shrink the PCB by qiute a bit if they go to a MCU with integrated flash and a charger IC with less external bits | 12:09 |
| SpeedEvil | MCUs with integrated flash of that size don't exist | 12:10 |
| ikarus | SpeedEvil: stack ? | 12:10 |
| SpeedEvil | But a 1A charger is overkill | 12:11 |
| SpeedEvil | There are sot23-6 or BGA packages which would pretty much do | 12:11 |
| SpeedEvil | Linear is quite doable at 170mAh | 12:12 |
| SpeedEvil | And of course, the accel and mag now go toghter | 12:12 |
| SpeedEvil | The big question would be if a micro with bluetooth in can be found, not using a module | 12:12 |
| flux | I guess they wanted to keep firmware binary compatibility | 12:12 |
| ikarus | flux: well, firmware would probably no, but application could probably be a yes | 12:13 |
| flux | I guess that's even common, but the mcus in them suck compared to the one in pebble :) | 12:13 |
| flux | even if it's a lowly cortex m3 | 12:13 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm not quite sure teh esp8266 can't be convinced into a low-power-enough mode to mostly work | 12:15 |
| SpeedEvil | (yes, wifi has major issues) | 12:15 |
| coderus | can anyone translate this to english, because google translate gives me weird results: "Homo millo mitakuuluu tulee saatana" | 12:16 |
| j-doge | coderus: "hey fag, when's mitakuuluu coming, goddammit" | 12:16 |
| j-doge | about-ish | 12:16 |
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| coderus | j-doge: really? o_O | 12:16 |
| Yaniel | yup | 12:17 |
| flux | I was halfway through writing a much more cheery translation, you bastards ;) | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | so, a typical finnish greeting? | 12:17 |
| j-doge | coderus: up goddammit to next level cursing | 12:17 |
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| coderus | google translate gives me similar results then :D | 12:18 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus : now you better get back to work :P | 12:20 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc_: not today :-P | 12:21 |
| ikarus | SpeedEvil: but yeah, scaling it down by 25-30% should be doable it seems | 12:21 |
| ikarus | even if only by replacing the charging logic.... | 12:22 |
| SpeedEvil | Whih does nothing | 12:22 |
| SpeedEvil | the board is not really setting the area | 12:22 |
| SpeedEvil | Shrinking the board 20% lets you increase the battery 10 | 12:22 |
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| faenil | coderus, porting axolotl to Qt, from Java? | 12:29 |
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| coderus | faenil: yep | 12:33 |
| faenil | coderus, cool, good luck with that | 12:33 |
| coderus | yeah, its a lot of work :D | 12:33 |
| coderus | and protobufs are not equal generated to c++ or java code contains some custom modifications :O | 12:34 |
| faenil | :O | 12:39 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | what is axolotl? | 12:49 |
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| tbr | tortoisedoc_: encryption library used in one of those messenger protocols | 12:55 |
| ikarus | hmz, I wonder if one of the Chromecast-alikes plays nice with SailfishOS (and with my concious, Chromecast signed apps only policy makes me feel icky) | 12:56 |
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| m4g0g | hello | 13:06 |
| m4g0g | I need application with reminder via custom period (for example - 35 days). Any ideas? | 13:07 |
| tortoisedoc_ | m4g0g - calendar / event? | 13:07 |
| m4g0g | It can't do it automatically and I don't want to create events each 35 day | 13:08 |
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| SK_work | m4g0g: well, do you want an existing app, or an API ? | 13:12 |
| m4g0g | both. Android app will be good too | 13:15 |
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: \o/ git pull | 13:31 |
| saidinesh5 | "193msec/iteration" | 13:32 |
| saidinesh5 | Thanks to 3 neat/dirty tricks I've used in BruteForceMatcher :D | 13:33 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: I would like to say: you could contribute to phonebot by writing a simple plugin, but that's advertizing for personnal project ;) | 13:33 |
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| SK_work | but phonebot + a plugin you write could be a nice solution. | 13:33 |
| saidinesh5 | 1) early return in edit distance method if you're trying to find only k differences... | 13:34 |
| Kitt3n | Is there a gcc pack for building apps directly for sailfishos or is the IDE required for building apps? | 13:34 |
| saidinesh5 | 2) if you're trying to find only 5 words, adjust k accordingly based on the results you've collected so far | 13:34 |
| saidinesh5 | 3) if manhattanDistance(input,word) > k don't bother going for editDistance | 13:35 |
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| m4g0g | SK_work: I will see project and think about plugin, but now I need fast solution | 13:36 |
| m4g0g | Hm. I can do it via google calendar | 13:38 |
| m4g0g | thx | 13:38 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: also check out the shiny new unit tests, still work in progress though | 13:46 |
| SK_work | Kitt3n: you can use the virtualmachine from command line | 13:46 |
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| Kitt3n | SK_work, but there's nothing like the command line cross-compilers for android? | 13:47 |
| SK_work | Kitt3n: you can actually install the "Mer SDK" in a Linux computer, without the VM | 13:48 |
| SK_work | but a bit more complicated, and not straigntforward, unlike on Android | 13:49 |
| SK_work | sorry | 13:49 |
| Kitt3n | eh! the android gcc toolchain is certainly not "straightforward" | 13:50 |
| coderus | Kitt3n: you can use mersdk with chroot, not vm. | 13:50 |
| Kitt3n | Cool! what I wanted basically :) i'll try when I get back to my linux laptop. | 13:50 |
| Kitt3n | coderus, ah. | 13:50 |
| saidinesh5 | Btw guys is there a sailfish os image for nexus 7 2013? | 13:55 |
| coderus | Kitt3n: http://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/2014/03/29/running-sailfishos-build-engine-outside-virtualbox-vm/ | 13:56 |
| coderus | saidinesh5: here: /join #sailfishos-porters | 13:56 |
| saidinesh5 | Oh i thought i was there already.. | 13:57 |
| Kitt3n | coderus, well..again, the vm is a pain, I JUST want gcc targetting sailfishos to build terminal programs :p | 14:01 |
| urjaman | i do that on my phone | 14:02 |
| Kitt3n | wha | 14:02 |
| urjaman | its very well capable of building small terminal stuff | 14:03 |
| Kitt3n | I don't have a jolla phone myself yet :D | 14:03 |
| Kitt3n | nor a tablet which I DO want /funds = 0 | 14:03 |
| kimmoli | ..speaking of VM... http://pastebin.com/z9v6JNQi | 14:04 |
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| urjaman | :/ | 14:08 |
| Kitt3n | ..? | 14:12 |
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| urjaman | kimmoli: running other VM or just for no reason? | 14:13 |
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| coderus | Kitt3n: nobody is written crosscompile rules for sailfishos/nemomobile afaik | 14:19 |
| coderus | so use chroot or install sdk in virtualbox :) | 14:19 |
| kimmoli | urjaman: windowsXP mode was running, and seems it left some residuals :( | 14:20 |
| urjaman | oh on windows | 14:20 |
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| coderus | hm, time in android apps is one hour more than system time :| | 17:39 |
| coderus | wtf? | 17:39 |
| coderus | i thought this bug was fixed in previous releases | 17:40 |
| raa700 | time is random in android apps | 17:41 |
| raa700 | at least whatsapp messages are often out of order | 17:42 |
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| cvp_ | somtimes i send a message and it show me eg 17:00 but the answer comes before 17:59 :) | 17:49 |
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| coderus | wtf? | 18:23 |
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| coderus | i need a fix for that | 18:23 |
| coderus | it's very annoying | 18:23 |
| coderus | is android using different tzdata? | 18:23 |
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| raa700 | i think there's fix in tjc | 18:28 |
| raa700 | by fiddling with dalviks tz | 18:28 |
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| coderus | checked log | 18:36 |
| coderus | and i think TIMEZONE:/usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia/Yekaterinburg//usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia/Yekaterinburg is wrong output of timezome :D | 18:37 |
| coderus | IFS is not set in shell :O | 18:40 |
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| faenil | -,- | 18:43 |
| coderus | hm no, it seems to be set ok | 18:45 |
| coderus | but COUNT working wrong by some reason | 18:45 |
| coderus | wtf | 18:45 |
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| coderus | okay, remove all IFS bullshit from /opt/alien/system/script/platform_envsetup.sh and replace TIMEZONEINFO=($localtime) with TIMEZONEINFO=(${localtime//\// }) | 18:54 |
| coderus | TIMEZONE:Asia/Yekaterinburg now, but still showing wrong time, wtf... | 18:54 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: don't command me | 18:54 |
| coderus | kimmoli: sry :D | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: it may be that tzdata is not up to date in android side | 18:55 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: yeah, thats why i asked it before :D | 18:55 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: where is it placed? | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | /opt/alien/system/usr something? | 18:55 |
| coderus | no tzdata entries in /opt/alien | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | well, it may be called zoneinfo instead | 18:56 |
| coderus | zoneinfo found, thanks | 18:56 |
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| coderus | [nemo@Jolla ~]$ cat /opt/alien/system/usr/share/zoneinfo/zoneinfo.version | 18:57 |
| coderus | 2012c | 18:57 |
| coderus | what a shame!!!! :D | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | you'd be impressed how crap the model for those things are in android.. | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | but file a care report about this perhpa | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | s | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | we're in russian market, so it seems a bit silly if android runtime acts funny :) | 18:59 |
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| coderus | wrf, there is /opt/alien/system/usr/share/zoneinfo/zoneinfo.version from aliendalvik, and /system/usr/share/zoneinfo/zoneinfo.version from droid-system-sbj | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, ignore the droid-system-sbj one | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | it was done when we were all young and naive | 19:01 |
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| coderus | i hope its all compatible and i can just grab it from laptop and replace it on device | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:01 |
| Raim | I doubt the time zone is the problem, WhatsApp often shows times a few minutes into the future for me | 19:01 |
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| faenil | Raim, same here! | 19:02 |
| Raim | it was also reported here: https://together.jolla.com/question/72043/11127-android-clockwork-time-seems-to-run-too-fast/ | 19:02 |
| coderus | Raim: it's only whatsapp servers issue | 19:02 |
| coderus | time is set on server side, not client | 19:02 |
| * Nokius__ hugs coderus HAPPY BIRTHDAY! | 19:02 | |
| coderus | Nokius__: thanks :) | 19:02 |
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| faenil | coderus, though it never happened to me before 1.1.1.27 | 19:03 |
| faenil | oh is it your bday? happy bday! :) | 19:03 |
| coderus | faenil: it happened sometimes for whatsapp | 19:05 |
| faenil | ok | 19:05 |
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| coderus | faenil: yeah, thanks :) | 19:05 |
| faenil | :) | 19:05 |
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| coderus | Download 2014i files: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26659227/jolla/tzdata2014i.zip | 19:16 |
| coderus | and replace /opt/alien/system/usr/share/zoneinfo/ contents | 19:16 |
| coderus | works for me now | 19:16 |
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| Alnindor | hey, is there a crash report library for sailfish? | 19:30 |
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| coderus | i saw some in internals, but don't know if it usable and accessible somehow | 19:37 |
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| * Nokius wondering | 19:57 | |
| Alnindor | im getting occasional crashing in my app and need to find out why | 19:58 |
| Alnindor | happens when its not really doing much, maybe on the wakeup but its random | 19:58 |
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| Alnindor | is it possible to at least run an app with stderr going to a file? without ssh tho | 20:01 |
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| Nokius | is there a hint to do this I have ListElemnt and will fill it into a Item wich is displaed in a GridView the item opens a page when clicked https://www.zerobin.net/?79fcd13715c0d32b#ypfRpCNhc33adHerzsWltcmsPLR1cRzIRlrFORfo6DA= | 20:13 |
| Nokius | MouseArea and Button creating Build errors | 20:13 |
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| faenil | Nokius, sorry? | 20:25 |
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| faenil | Nokius, btw, since ListElement is indented, I guess there's a } missing after ListElement | 20:25 |
| faenil | ? | 20:25 |
| faenil | (or it's misindented, if you press CTRL+a and then CTRL+i it will autoindent the code) | 20:26 |
| Nokius | faenil: mh.. https://www.zerobin.net/?07a4b8e48facc192#x2ShauDXNkRi3VdUeyuOXyBjQzxyklPFBhBui5RlYQ4= | 20:27 |
| coderus | Nokius: there is one unwanted "}" inside MouseArea | 20:27 |
| Nokius | o-o | 20:28 |
| faenil | see what coderus said | 20:28 |
| coderus | onClicked: { something } | 20:28 |
| coderus | or onClicked: smething | 20:28 |
| coderus | not onClicked: { something } } | 20:28 |
| faenil | btw now there's a } after ListElement, I guess you added it now | 20:28 |
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| Nokius | AH loosk like I need a nape | 20:29 |
| faenil | :) | 20:29 |
| Nokius | THANKS | 20:29 |
| coderus | :D | 20:29 |
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| faenil | now I'm just curious :D you added the } after ListElement right? | 20:30 |
| faenil | it wasn't there before :P | 20:30 |
| coderus | but should it produce build error because of errors in qml? | 20:30 |
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| Nokius | No it is running in the Emulator // change MouseArea to Button and o/ | 20:32 |
| Nokius | faenil: no had all } in my listElement area | 20:32 |
| faenil | Nokius, I see what you did, you cut code before pasting it | 20:33 |
| faenil | and cut the } with that | 20:33 |
| Nokius | possible | 20:34 |
| faenil | :P | 20:34 |
| faenil | avoid that when pasting code to get help :) | 20:34 |
| Nokius | :)sometimes not sure I potential helpers will under what I'm writing about | 20:35 |
| faenil | Nokius, btw we'll meet at Fosdem :) | 20:36 |
| faenil | coderus, you not flying over? | 20:36 |
| Nokius | I know :) | 20:36 |
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| * Nokius wondering what my neighbors think when I freakout in font of my PC when some code works | 20:46 | |
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| Nokius | BasilSemuonov_: are you working on openrepos? looks like the Application platform selector is gone and there is now new time NEWS ?? | 21:02 |
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| coderus | faenil: ? | 21:16 |
| faenil | coderus, not coming to fosdem? | 21:18 |
| kimmoli | oh, why. cat: /sys/devices/platform/toh-core.0/vendor: Permission denied | 21:18 |
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| BasilSemuonov_ | Nokius, hm, indeed something broke | 21:21 |
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| Nokius | BasilSemuonov_: okay was wondering may my browser is miss configured | 21:23 |
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| coderus | faenil: no. i will have money for new europe trip only after year :D | 21:26 |
| faenil | coderus, oh I see...Ryanair is my saviour here :D 53€ return flight :) | 21:26 |
| coderus | :D | 21:26 |
| Nokius | other low airline ~60 Euros | 21:28 |
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| r0kk3rz | yes well its not very far from finland to belgium | 21:37 |
| Flexman | i have a good idea now: the MARMELADE OTHER HALF! | 21:37 |
| Flexman | if you throw down your phone it'll always land on the marmelade side (which can be softer) | 21:38 |
| r0kk3rz | Flexman: so you can put your phone on your toast? | 21:38 |
| r0kk3rz | or cat-toh, because the cat will always land on its feet | 21:39 |
| r0kk3rz | inbuilt suspension and everything | 21:39 |
| Flexman | exactly | 21:39 |
| kimmoli | toast on back of cat = free energy? | 21:40 |
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| r0kk3rz | toast on a cat in a box with a grenade hooked up to a single caesium atom | 21:41 |
| r0kk3rz | schrodingers breakfast | 21:41 |
| Flexman | :-) | 21:44 |
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| faenil | r0kk3rz, I'm in Italy | 21:46 |
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| r0kk3rz | also, not very far to belgium | 21:46 |
| faenil | yeah, a few hours | 21:47 |
| r0kk3rz | to be fair im only across the north sea, but unfortunately the timing didnt work out | 21:48 |
| faenil | ouch | 21:48 |
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| Flexman | i try to convince my cousin to buy a jolla | 21:53 |
| Nokius | only 1h + few minutes | 21:53 |
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| Flexman | however he means he needs a phone he can throw down. that's why the marmelade other half would be fine | 21:54 |
| * Nokius gn8 thanks for your help guys | 21:54 | |
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| Nokius | Flexman: so a 15€ Nokia | 21:54 |
| Flexman | Nokius: hmm. should be a smartphone though | 21:55 |
| Nokius | :D | 21:55 |
| r0kk3rz | ive been meaning to do up a sugru-half | 21:55 |
| Flexman | min seems to be stable. has several scratches but still works. tha A button is a little bit weak, but thats it | 21:55 |
| Nokius | sounds interesting | 21:55 |
| Flexman | r0kk3rz: or an anti-gravity half | 21:55 |
| r0kk3rz | mainly so it doesnt fall out of your hands so easy | 21:56 |
| r0kk3rz | the polycarbonate back is pretty slippery | 21:56 |
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| tbr | nothing is as slippery as the glass back of an Nx4 | 21:57 |
| r0kk3rz | perhaps | 21:57 |
| r0kk3rz | but enough to be annoying | 21:57 |
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| Nokius | dirk has a TOH for that | 21:57 |
| Flexman | is the Chamaeleon other half slippery? | 21:57 |
| Flexman | r0kk3rz: it's ok if the jolla is slippery, but is it stable? do you have experience in throwing it down? | 21:58 |
| r0kk3rz | mines got a few scrapes and dents | 21:58 |
| r0kk3rz | because of aforementioned slipperyness | 21:59 |
| r0kk3rz | i never dropped my last phone this much | 21:59 |
| Nokius | talking about http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/BumperTOH-PRE-ORDER/p/46449672/category=9141090 | 21:59 |
| r0kk3rz | but so long as it lasts me until the jolla 2 is released, then thats ok | 22:00 |
| r0kk3rz | i dont really expect it to last forever | 22:00 |
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| Flexman | Nokius: oh thanks. I'll recommend that to him | 22:11 |
| Flexman | r0kk3rz: oh, when does the Jolla 2 come? | 22:11 |
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| Flexman | oh this year | 22:13 |
| r0kk3rz | nobody really knows for sure | 22:13 |
| r0kk3rz | since it hasnt been announced yet | 22:13 |
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| r0kk3rz | but the expectation is that it will be announced at mwc | 22:14 |
| Flexman | hm | 22:15 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: >D | 22:22 |
| sandsmark | :D | 22:22 |
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