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coderus | ryukafalz: if you have pkgconfig you need to put sailfishapp here also | 03:19 |
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coderus | Acce: if you harbour dev you can only use predefined ones. | 03:19 |
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ryukafalz | Aha, thanks! | 03:20 |
* ryukafalz tries and crosses his fingers | 03:20 | |
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ryukafalz | That seems to have done it :) | 03:23 |
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coderus | SK_work: if unapply and apply same patch in patchmanager "Restart preloaded services doesn't appear" | 04:07 |
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spiiroin | ajalkane: it is simple as: iphb/heartbeat = wakeup only; currently there is longish implicit suspend blocking - just that alarms work. it will be made as short as possible when timed & co get in line. after that anything that uses only iphb/wrappers = more likely to break | 06:30 |
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spiiroin | the normal qt/glib timers are used for maintaining the keepalive; keepalive is needed if you plan to do anything non-trivial after wakeup | 06:32 |
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spiiroin | and even if you do trivial stuff, using background processing / glib compatibility timers is better than vanilla iphb / heartbeat | 06:32 |
spiiroin | the power management aspect is: do not wakeup too often; stop keepalive as soon as it is not needed | 06:33 |
spiiroin | .... and critically: no matter what happens, do not fail to end keepalive | 06:35 |
spiiroin | exit on failure works too, keepalive gets auto-canceled that way | 06:35 |
kimmoli | spiiroin: ? iphb more likely to break? | 06:35 |
kimmoli | *anything that uses | 06:36 |
spiiroin | kimmoli: "more likely not to work as expected" would be more correct | 06:36 |
spiiroin | there are no quarantees on how long work can be done after iphb wakeup | 06:36 |
kimmoli | yes, but it will be made even shorter? | 06:37 |
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spiiroin | now it is way too long due to timed & co -> been in plans for ages, but ... | 06:37 |
kimmoli | i have seen some tens of ms | 06:38 |
spiiroin | kernel blocks suspend for 1s on rtc wakeup -> that is minimum | 06:39 |
spiiroin | but scheduling will reduce that to some extent | 06:39 |
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kimmoli | but it will not be shorter than that? | 06:39 |
spiiroin | not from system pov, but effectively it /might/ less for a process | 06:40 |
spiiroin | well, it is less, but might be significantly less | 06:40 |
spiiroin | point being the higher level abstractions quarantee that the device will not fall back to suspend; iphb does not | 06:41 |
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kimmoli | thanks for the headsup. have to do keepalive anyway with letoh. | 06:44 |
kimmoli | on toholed, there is vibra+audible actions when i need to blink the display, so i trust on them | 06:44 |
kimmoli | worst thing that can happen, is the display is stuck inverted until next wakeup | 06:45 |
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spiiroin | yeah, just being worried that because rtc wakeups now cause implicit 5 sec blocking -> by the time we get a chance to bring it down to sane level all apps are broken | 06:45 |
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kimmoli | and then keepalive gets stuck, and it blocks forever? | 06:56 |
kimmoli | or is there a watchdog? | 06:57 |
spiiroin | blocks forever | 06:57 |
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kimmoli | ctrl-c is your enemy then... | 06:58 |
spiiroin | killing the process is ok, when client drops from dbus -> keepalive is canceled | 06:58 |
spiiroin | but if the wakeup handler manages to omit keepalive end (on error path or something), then it might block suspend for the lifetime of the process | 06:59 |
spiiroin | there at least have been issues like that with msyncd | 07:00 |
kimmoli | ok. | 07:01 |
kimmoli | gah, i have Forgot to push tohkbd related tasks to you guys :p | 07:02 |
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spiiroin | speaking of tohkbd... mce has some als logic & configs & policies for keyboard backlight - do you think it would make sense to expose some of that via dbus, or do you want to handle that directly in tohkbd daemon? | 07:04 |
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kimmoli | i made some logic there | 07:05 |
kimmoli | when keyboard opened > check als > lit backlight iF user selected threshold not exceeded | 07:07 |
kimmoli | key pressed same thing, and keep backlight lit For as long keys being pressed, or user deFined time | 07:07 |
spiiroin | I noticed, hence the thought. If it works, then probably does not need to be changed. But even remote will might be enough incentive enough for me to check the probably-untouched-since-n900 logic. | 07:07 |
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spiiroin | Also, IIRC you did read the als data directly from sysfs? ALS is disabled when display is off -> timing glitch might mean you get stale data. | 07:09 |
spiiroin | Using sensorfw to track als status would cure that problem. | 07:10 |
kimmoli | ah | 07:11 |
spiiroin | The alternative would be to patch mce keypad backlight policy -> dbus state/signals for -> off/level. | 07:13 |
kimmoli | hum | 07:14 |
kimmoli | sounds kinda complicated | 07:14 |
spiiroin | But that might be bigger task than fixing current tohkbd, so ... could be either way | 07:14 |
kimmoli | iäll take a look at sensorFw then, or make sure als is read when display is on | 07:15 |
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spiiroin | for jolla phone re-read at display->on should work. by the time display power on finishes, the als has already reported new state. | 07:18 |
spiiroin | but it is another one of those "happens to work, but no guarantees" kind of things ;-) | 07:19 |
kimmoli | just like all of my code... | 07:21 |
coderus | Stskeepz: check email, images are sent | 07:21 |
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kimmoli | spiiroin: the flip-to-mute... https://together.jolla.com/question/371/silence-incoming-calls-by-turning-the-phone-face-down/ | 07:25 |
kimmoli | does it use proximity? | 07:25 |
* spiiroin reads ... | 07:25 | |
spiiroin | kimmoli: indirectly - display needs to on & face up first; then turn face down. And proximity blocks display on. | 07:27 |
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kimmoli | i have experienced muting when phone is facing down already, on my black leather couch | 07:29 |
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kimmoli | rings for 1sec | 07:29 |
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kimmoli | black is not good for ir with level sensitivity | 07:31 |
spiiroin | hmm.. orientation sensor too is powered up at display on. might be that some "default to face-up" makes it look like a flip in this case | 07:33 |
spiiroin | kimmoli: you could file a bug in nemo bz | 07:34 |
* lpotter mentions sensorgestures and sailfish sensorgesture plugin | 07:34 | |
kimmoli | i have to reproduce this few more times | 07:35 |
coderus | anyone else want image file for breaking phone? :D | 07:35 |
kimmoli | thats why i dont take selfies... | 07:36 |
kimmoli | spiiroin: yes, it is reproducible | 07:40 |
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spiiroin | kimmoli: can you file a bug? (https://bugs.nemomobile.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Middleware -> component=mce) | 07:43 |
kimmoli | yes, just logging in | 07:43 |
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daitheflu | good morning | 08:13 |
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SK_work | coderus: coderus: expected, restart services only if there are changes | 08:37 |
SK_work | :) | 08:37 |
coderus | SK_work: where to expect a fix for that? :D | 08:38 |
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SK_work | coderus: why fix ? | 08:39 |
SK_work | you changed nothing on your system (apply unapply = nothing changed) :) | 08:39 |
coderus | SK_work: patch file is changed | 08:40 |
SK_work | coderus: hum ... | 08:40 |
coderus | so i unapplied old patch and applied new patch | 08:40 |
SK_work | haha | 08:40 |
SK_work | I see | 08:40 |
SK_work | will think about this (diff old and new patch) | 08:41 |
coderus | yep | 08:41 |
coderus | just compare patch in var and usr | 08:41 |
coderus | but anyway | 08:41 |
coderus | you should enable option without checking | 08:41 |
SK_work | coderus: hum | 08:42 |
SK_work | ok | 08:42 |
coderus | means you shouldn't disable option when you unapply - apply patch | 08:42 |
coderus | once enabled it should be disabled only when clicked | 08:42 |
SK_work | yeah I know | 08:42 |
coderus | also | 08:42 |
coderus | do you storing all changed categories or restarting only last one? | 08:43 |
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saidinesh5 | sandsmark: guess who got his laptop back | 08:57 |
saidinesh5 | and guess whose laptop is acting all weird... :P | 08:57 |
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SK_work | :D | 08:59 |
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Acce | coderus: it would be just for my own needs, so no harbour restrictions. Other than the category .conf file, I guess I need a .qml file describing the notification "window" and then somewhere connect the category to that qml file? | 09:27 |
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Acce | coderus: now looked at your powermenu for an example, thanks! :P | 09:32 |
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coderus | Acce: wut? | 09:34 |
coderus | you only need to put file to /usr/share/lipstick/notificationcategories | 09:34 |
coderus | powermenu window is not a notification | 09:35 |
sandsmark | saidinesh5: aww! and then :V | 09:35 |
Acce | but if also want to display something different, like the height of battery notifications and message notifications are different, don't I have to change something in lipstick? | 09:35 |
sandsmark | saidinesh5: weird how? | 09:35 |
saidinesh5 | dunno... i suspect a failing hard disk | 09:35 |
saidinesh5 | it took about 3-4 miinutes to boot up | 09:36 |
saidinesh5 | and everything is very slow.... | 09:36 |
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sandsmark | :/ | 09:37 |
* saidinesh5 shrugs | 09:37 | |
saidinesh5 | will probably soon swap this one's hard disk though | 09:37 |
saidinesh5 | with one from old laptop | 09:37 |
saidinesh5 | which literally melted | 09:38 |
saidinesh5 | thanks to bad power management or whatever | 09:38 |
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coderus | Acce: no, it just a notifications | 09:42 |
sandsmark | saidinesh5: hdd or ssd? | 09:42 |
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saidinesh5 | hybrid i think | 09:42 |
saidinesh5 | 1TB hdd + 24GB ssd | 09:42 |
sandsmark | ah, kewl | 09:42 |
Acce | coderus: ok, sorry, I found the /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5/notifications/NotificationPreview.qml and saw there's only the system and normal type of notification previews | 09:43 |
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coderus | Acce: i dont understand what are you trying to do or it's you don't understand some essentials | 09:52 |
coderus | explain better please | 09:52 |
coderus | saidinesh5: isn't 24GB too much for / partition? | 09:53 |
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saidinesh5 | coderus: i dont have raw access to the SSD part | 09:54 |
saidinesh5 | it automatically caches stuff | 09:54 |
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Nicd- | yeah, hybrid drives show up as one drive | 09:55 |
coderus | lol, how? in windows its done by drivers, but | 09:56 |
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Nicd- | the cache is internal to the drive | 09:56 |
coderus | my gf have hybrig 16GB ssd + 500GB hdd | 09:56 |
Nicd- | don't think the OS even sees it | 09:56 |
coderus | and ssd is visible as sda and hdd as sdb :) | 09:56 |
coderus | and i installed ubuntu to ssd and hdd as home :) | 09:57 |
locusf | oh yeah that reminds me, I need a cache drive for my desktop | 09:57 |
Nicd- | hm, my wife has a hybrid drive on OS X and it just shows up as one device | 09:57 |
coderus | maybe different drives, but in my vision it's just done in windows/osx drivers | 09:58 |
coderus | and under linux it's always two different drives | 09:58 |
Nicd- | apparently there's two methods: dual-drive (shows up as two drives) and SSHD (shows up as one drive) | 09:59 |
Acce | coderus: yeah I think it was just that I did not understand how the display of the notification worked and I mixed the notifications with something else | 09:59 |
Nicd- | and dual-drives that are in the same 2.5" package are apparently much rarer | 09:59 |
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coderus | Acce: for notification you just choosing category and category respect for led color and sound. you set title, body and icon to notification and publish it. | 10:05 |
coderus | thats all | 10:05 |
Acce | yeah, it is quite clear now, thanks | 10:07 |
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zbenjamin | what can i do if i get "ERROR: error during balancing '/' - No space left on device" on a btrfs balance, but have no sdcard avail? | 10:15 |
Nicd- | try to create more space by deleting files | 10:16 |
zbenjamin | Nicd-: i already removed all my pictures and videos from the phone | 10:16 |
zbenjamin | Nicd-: df -H tells me that i use only 40% of the disk | 10:17 |
zbenjamin | Nicd-: devid 1 size 13.75GiB used 12.75GiB path /dev/mmcblk0p28 | 10:17 |
zbenjamin | also there should be some space left. I have no idea whats going on. But my android store tells me i have not enough space left to install apps | 10:17 |
Nicd- | dunno any other advice than to delete more (of course not stuff you don't know you can safely delete). have you read the TJC page? | 10:18 |
Nicd- | there was some stuff about releasing metadata space too | 10:18 |
zbenjamin | Nicd-: i wonder where als this space went anyway, I removed all my pic and vids, all there is left is some apps and my contacts and calendar | 10:20 |
Nicd- | that's btrfs for you | 10:20 |
SK_work | touch file | 10:20 |
SK_work | zbenjamin: touch filetoremove before removing it | 10:21 |
SK_work | will remove the metadata associated | 10:21 |
zbenjamin | SK_work: its too late for that oO | 10:21 |
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SK_work | hum | 10:22 |
zbenjamin | the rootfs has now 5.5G used (as reported by df) i guess i cannot delete much more oO | 10:26 |
SK_work | hum | 10:26 |
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tbr | rebalance? | 10:27 |
zbenjamin | tbr: i get "error during balancing '/' - No space left on device" | 10:27 |
tbr | ah | 10:27 |
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Nc_ | Sorry for another stupid question, but where's it defined what files to include in the RPM? have created a folder next to the qml and translations folders, with a file in it, and added it to the project, but it is not being included in the resulting rpm | 10:34 |
Nc_ | Looked into the YAML file, but really seeing it | 10:35 |
SK_work | Nc_: you need to install that file in the .pro files | 10:37 |
Nc_ | it is listed in the .pro file under OTHER_FILES - this happened automatically when added to the project | 10:38 |
SK_work | Nc_: is other_files being installed ? | 10:39 |
Nc_ | everything else is being installed, yes | 10:40 |
Nc_ | hmm, actually the OTHER_FILES segment contains another file that is also not being installed - some autocreated thing called Lightfish_qt.desktop | 10:42 |
zbenjamin | SK_work: weird, a reboot now makes it possible that i run the rebalance | 10:43 |
tbr | zbenjamin: maybe some files were held or something freed some metadata | 10:47 |
zbenjamin | tbr: probably, now i run rebalance and increase it by 5 every time | 10:47 |
saidinesh5 | sandsmark: when you are free could you run the benchmarks on your machine? | 10:48 |
sandsmark | saidinesh5: yup :D | 10:48 |
sandsmark | I probably won't have time this week, though | 10:48 |
saidinesh5 | i have no clue how these words are showing 1600msec | 10:48 |
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saidinesh5 | on my laptop it shows 70msec | 10:48 |
saidinesh5 | oh | 10:49 |
sandsmark | I have some homework to do, and hopefully I will release the compostuff I'm working on next weekend | 10:49 |
saidinesh5 | Ahh | 10:49 |
saidinesh5 | sure np, gluck | 10:49 |
saidinesh5 | i didnt know you were in uni :P | 10:49 |
sandsmark | well, I just take a couple of courses :p | 10:50 |
sandsmark | I've already finished my master | 10:50 |
saidinesh5 | Ahh | 10:52 |
saidinesh5 | was it worth is? | 10:52 |
saidinesh5 | im still at the cross roads for a masters degree | 10:52 |
saidinesh5 | i have no clue how the benchmarks on the server are off by a factor of 10 O_o | 10:54 |
saidinesh5 | the same words are not crossing 150msec for me........ | 10:54 |
saidinesh5 | and they took more than 1second on the server........ | 10:54 |
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sandsmark | saidinesh5: eeh, I learned a lot, which I enjoy :D | 11:01 |
sandsmark | and I got a good job | 11:01 |
sandsmark | but idunno, I know people that didn't get one and still have a good life, or something :p[ | 11:02 |
sandsmark | s/\[// | 11:02 |
saidinesh5 | sandsmark: well tbh it wasnt learning vs. job, its more or less coursera vs. masters :P | 11:02 |
sandsmark | well, I got a good job mostly because of my masters, I think | 11:02 |
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saidinesh5 | hmm i see | 11:02 |
saidinesh5 | damn | 11:03 |
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saidinesh5 | should have applied to the universities...... | 11:03 |
saidinesh5 | Ahhhhhhhhh | 11:05 |
saidinesh5 | probably that stupid server | 11:05 |
saidinesh5 | the servers usually are some kind of shared vms right? | 11:05 |
saidinesh5 | like some other dude's sever can steal my CPU or something right? | 11:05 |
saidinesh5 | now i ran the same tests and the benchmarks are more or less similar to my laptop | 11:06 |
saidinesh5 | albeit its a 1Ghz server | 11:06 |
saidinesh5 | and mine is a haswell 2.some Ghz CPU | 11:07 |
Yaniel | benchmark on a raspberry pi | 11:09 |
saidinesh5 | actually a good idea | 11:11 |
saidinesh5 | i m not sure if my pi is still working though | 11:11 |
coderus | Nc_: something.files = folder/file1 folder/file2 | 11:11 |
coderus | somethings.path = /usr/share/appname/ | 11:12 |
coderus | INSTALLS += something | 11:12 |
Nc_ | coderus: .pro file? | 11:12 |
coderus | sure | 11:16 |
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coderus | patch for adding more network modes: https://openrepos.net/content/coderusofono/patch-more-network-modes | 12:22 |
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coderus | is there way to set default vendor for packages in sone mb config file? or i should set it in each spec? | 13:53 |
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anandrkris | Hi tigeli - Am facing issue related to Mobile data getting disabled although i can see 3g signal availability | 13:58 |
anandrkris | if / when you're free, am ready to furnish any details required for you | 13:58 |
anandrkris | have a workaround for now - Am able to solve it now by restarting n/w or enable / disable flight mode | 13:59 |
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anandrkris | re Early RC candidate access - Should i read between lines and imagine that U11 is round the corner ;) | 14:21 |
coderus | anandrkris: it's already. opt in and check for updates :D | 14:21 |
anandrkris | Oh! is it mentioned somewhere in that announcement? | 14:22 |
coderus | no, announcement is not about available rc :D | 14:23 |
anandrkris | okies, i have a tendency to miss important stuff while reading :P | 14:23 |
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anandrkris | An aside - this page looks unwieldy (elite word for ugly) | 14:24 |
anandrkris | https://account.jolla.com/oauth/oauth2/clients | 14:24 |
anandrkris | Can someone confirm if it's the case for you as well? | 14:24 |
coderus | anandrkris: confirmed | 14:24 |
xfade_ | anandrkris: yeah, one of these long todo lists ;) | 14:24 |
anandrkris | he he...ok... | 14:25 |
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xfade_ | Supply a diff against CSS and it will certainly be fixed sooner ;) | 14:26 |
anandrkris | i had learnt html way back in high school... | 14:26 |
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anandrkris | but now no interest / lazy to learn coding :) | 14:28 |
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pp | there, checkbox *check* | 14:44 |
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anandrkris | re Opt-in updates, saw a comment in TJC, that it should ideally have been device specific selection | 15:00 |
sledges | PSA: sailfishos community meeting at #mer-meeting | 15:00 |
anandrkris | i think, at least when tablet arrives it will be a large set of users with both devices | 15:00 |
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Price15x_ | Is there anyway to quickly free up ram so that I can run android apps | 15:51 |
Price15x_ | Rebooting takes a lot of time. I even tried closing all the other apps. | 15:52 |
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SK_work | Price15x: try restarting the android vm ? | 15:58 |
SK_work | (install sailfish utilities to do so) | 15:58 |
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Price15x | whats the package name I cant find it in zypper search | 16:03 |
anandrkris | Price15x: its in harbour store | 16:03 |
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anandrkris | Price15x: must be sailfish-utilities https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-utilities | 16:05 |
Price15x | anandrkris: okay Ill try it now | 16:06 |
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Price15x | Didnt work I restarted android even tried stoping android no use app still crashes | 16:10 |
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M4rtinK | BTW, I think it would be nice if the store page for opensource Jolla apps pointed to the source code repo | 16:50 |
M4rtinK | as the easier you make it | 16:50 |
M4rtinK | the more contributions you will get :) | 16:51 |
anandrkris | Hi App developers - If anyone is looking for cool and simple idea - "URL shortener service for clipboard" | 16:51 |
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SK_work | :D | 16:53 |
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chem|st | M4rtinK: +1 | 16:55 |
M4rtinK | I've been always doing that with modRana BTW | 16:56 |
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M4rtinK | pointing to the source in the description & in the in-app About page | 16:57 |
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Morpog_PC__ | seems I created a very hot discussed topic on tjc, my email inbox is getting littered :D | 18:49 |
Morpog_PC__ | oh wrong channel | 18:50 |
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jaacoppi | what does TJC mean? Together.Jolla.Com? | 18:57 |
Morpog_PC__ | yep | 18:57 |
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raa700 | tetrajydrocannabinol | 19:05 |
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* Nokius back from work and awesome new news :) | 20:41 | |
* Nokius colleague got his Jolla today the new TOH are awesome | 20:44 | |
Stskeeps | :) | 20:44 |
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faenil | Nokius, wb :) | 20:45 |
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* Nokius need some sleep now | 20:51 | |
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