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| chem|st | coderus: I do not get the last question, if you mean the current cmd on together (removing extref flag from fs), it is needed as it won't mount the card properly if extrefs are activated - no idea if it is the mkfs or the kernel module, can be a combination of both | 00:33 |
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| chem|st | we can talk about this after I have slept... | 00:34 |
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| coderus | chem|st: i mean i everybody already formatter cart using old article without using ^extref option, and now article says using ^extref option is important, so any way to apply this to already existing partition? | 04:55 |
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| SaberAltria | Hello | 06:42 |
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| SaberAltria | @Coderus I remember that you have made CursorKey for Jolla keyboard | 06:42 |
| SaberAltria | but I found that the cursorkey doesn't work in andorid | 06:43 |
| SaberAltria | Is it no way to fix it? | 06:43 |
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| coderus | SaberAltria: no you remember wrong, it was not me | 07:43 |
| coderus | and mention in irc is nickname: not @nickname | 07:43 |
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| SaberAltria | Ops | 08:00 |
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| SaberAltria | coderus: so do you know the solution? | 08:08 |
| coderus | no | 08:08 |
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| Nokius_ | SaberAltria: its not slak :P its irc *\(o.o)/* | 08:19 |
| Nokius_ | *slack | 08:19 |
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| * Nokius damn tag is not at lost and found :( | 08:20 | |
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| SaberAltria | Nokius: yup | 08:28 |
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| daitheflu | hi :) | 08:40 |
| coderus | SK_work: ping | 08:41 |
| coderus | swipe feedback patch buggy. | 08:42 |
| coderus | after locking screen i'm getting black screen instead of apps | 08:42 |
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| SK_work | coderus: yes, swipe feedback is buggy :/ | 08:47 |
| SK_work | it is a super-ugly hack | 08:47 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 08:58 |
| coderus | SK_work: okay | 09:02 |
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| SK_work | coderus: I'm thinking about doing something similar to the tablet | 09:16 |
| SK_work | fading when swiping | 09:16 |
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| coderus | i don't remember exactly | 09:25 |
| coderus | i can do it at free time :) | 09:25 |
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| SK_work | :) | 10:23 |
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| Juice__ | Is there example somewhere how to impelement "Show on Map" button that opens the map application? | 11:01 |
| Juice__ | Like in contacts | 11:01 |
| SaberAltria | Question about the filesystem hierachy in sailfishos | 11:14 |
| SaberAltria | I want to install a editable database into the phone | 11:14 |
| chem|st | coderus: you do not need to change that option if it is working for you, I formatted "before" this issue and have had no problem | 11:16 |
| SaberAltria | and I read an article mentioned that /var/lib/ is suitable location for dynamic data libraries/files like the rpm/dpkg database and game scores. | 11:18 |
| chem|st | SaberAltria: link for that? | 11:20 |
| SaberAltria | but if I didnt change the owner from "root" to "nemo", it still cannot be modifiy the database in runtime | 11:20 |
| SaberAltria | http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy.html#var | 11:20 |
| SK_work | SaberAltria: yes, you need to change the owner from root to nemo | 11:22 |
| SK_work | install in ~/.local/share/<yourapp> | 11:22 |
| SK_work | SaberAltria: is your daemon running as root or nemo | 11:22 |
| SK_work | ? | 11:22 |
| chem|st | on nemo I'd write user data to ~/.local/share/ | 11:23 |
| chem|st | ah sk was faster | 11:23 |
| SaberAltria | That means it is okay to change the owner, right? | 11:23 |
| SaberAltria | just nemo I think | 11:24 |
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| coderus | SaberAltria: use QStandardPaths::writableLocation(QStandardPaths::DataLocation) | 11:57 |
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| antranigv | greetings. is there encryption on chat on Sailfish ? :) | 11:58 |
| antranigv | OTR on Jabber, for example | 11:58 |
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| Blizzz | theres no OTR support yet | 12:01 |
| tbr | I think in telepathy it would be possible to a degree, but someone would need to help with the UI | 12:02 |
| antranigv | hmm I see, and has anyone ever ported GTK ? :) at least we can have Pidgin and Pidgin-otr | 12:06 |
| Yaniel | NOPE | 12:06 |
| entil | I'm completely off the libaxolotl-cpp stuff for now, maybe I should get it pushed out and have someone else complete it ;P then there could be a telepathy plugin or a client or whatever | 12:06 |
| coderus | entil: i'm working on libaxolotl currently | 12:07 |
| entil | coderus: sswweeeeet! | 12:09 |
| entil | coderus: I had some occasions to do it on working time but now I'm assigned to a project that requires my full attention - and I never had enough spare time to work on it at home | 12:09 |
| entil | consultancy life, I thought I was attending a meeting this morning, accually was remote assignment | 12:10 |
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| coderus | entil: pseudocode almost done | 12:13 |
| coderus | need to make it compile :D | 12:13 |
| entil | I got the prekey generation stuff pretty much done, and some (mostly unpushed) skeletal code for a cli client | 12:14 |
| entil | it generates keys on startup and has an option to request the verification sms | 12:14 |
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| coderus | keys generations is donna module | 12:14 |
| coderus | its written in c and can be just reused | 12:14 |
| coderus | i'm not writing textsecure client | 12:15 |
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| entil | yeah, sure, Curve clsas that calls curve25519_donna() and so on, or that's how I did it | 12:15 |
| coderus | its most easy part of porting | 12:15 |
| entil | maybe some year I'll have time to consider a textsecure client, having the protocol library would be a world of help | 12:15 |
| coderus | yeah | 12:16 |
| coderus | i'm trying to get fully functional axolotl library | 12:16 |
| entil | yeah, that's a lot of value by itself | 12:17 |
| entil | makes writing clients possible ;) | 12:17 |
| coderus | yep | 12:19 |
| entil | is this one of those cases where donations help get the code out? | 12:19 |
| coderus | yep | 12:19 |
| coderus | http://igg.me/at/coderus | 12:19 |
| entil | coderus: how much does igg eat of the perks? istr you having a paypal donation thing as well on openrepos | 12:23 |
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| coderus | 4% | 12:31 |
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| entil | which do you prefer? | 12:32 |
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| entil | I have no idea about paypal | 12:32 |
| coderus | paypal does the same | 12:35 |
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| coderus | you can transfer money to friends woth no fee only inside one country | 12:36 |
| coderus | paypal always taking a fee when transferring money to other country friends | 12:37 |
| entil | hmm, I thought igg had my card details on record but it suggests I pay with paypal | 12:37 |
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| entil | I'll do that to get it over with, I need to get back to work soon :P | 12:37 |
| coderus | isn't paypal processing your card payment? | 12:37 |
| entil | I thought igg had its own thing | 12:38 |
| coderus | okay | 12:38 |
| entil | anyway, you got a new donation through igg now | 12:38 |
| Aciid_ | is there still a country that doesn't use swift banking standards? | 12:38 |
| entil | btw, you mention whatsapp there on igg, do you see a future with it? | 12:38 |
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| coderus | Aciid: russia :) | 12:40 |
| Aciid | ah | 12:40 |
| coderus | :D | 12:41 |
| Aciid | so I think you just have to start accepting raw gold by post | 12:41 |
| Aciid | that way you wont get screwed over by transaction fees | 12:41 |
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| coderus | you think? i think raw gold fee is 100% if using post. | 12:44 |
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| entil | how about bitcoin? any market in russia? | 12:48 |
| coderus | no bitcoins in russia :) | 12:52 |
| entil | oh | 12:52 |
| coderus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_Bitcoin_by_country | 12:52 |
| entil | coderus: maybe the 100e minus fees in euros is better than something illegal ;P | 12:53 |
| zGrr | I don't believe they don't use bitcoins in Russia. | 12:54 |
| coderus | yep | 12:54 |
| coderus | zGrr: using in some places, but it will be totally banned in spring of this year | 12:55 |
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| zGrr | It will only make them more popular. | 12:55 |
| coderus | you first live in russia then tell me | 12:56 |
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| zGrr | I have no immediate plans... | 12:57 |
| zGrr | not sure about Russia's plans. | 12:57 |
| entil | "Deputy Finance Minister Aleksey Moiseev announced that a law will be passed banning their exchange into real money by Spring 2015" | 12:58 |
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| zGrr | Do you think Russians would stop using bitcons after ban? | 13:04 |
| entil | all I care about now is libaxolotl for c++ or qt ;P | 13:05 |
| coderus | how you can transfer bitcoins to real cash then? | 13:05 |
| entil | most likely bitcoin will still be around | 13:05 |
| entil | coderus: there are services like localbitcoins.com who set up actual cash transactions | 13:05 |
| coderus | entil: currently in Qt, but i see no reason why | 13:05 |
| entil | coderus: obviously I'm going for the jolla here so I don't care too much whether or not there will be a raw c++ version ;) my start at it is raw c++ | 13:06 |
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| coderus | entil: i mean there is nothing using Qt really | 13:22 |
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| coderus | only for keys and serialized data | 13:22 |
| entil | some of the java storage stuff, like keys, I serialized on the qt4 side | 13:23 |
| coderus | all other stuff is generated by protobuf and using own std wrappers | 13:23 |
| entil | so the actual library knew only about returning key instances | 13:23 |
| entil | yeah | 13:23 |
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| entil | coderus: is there any particular reason why you're not interested in textsecure? I mean, whatsapp still looks like it's the opensource code running against the company code and users getting blocked in the future as well... or do you have secret plans to sell an official jolla client codebase to them? ;) | 13:26 |
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| coderus | entil: there is no statement shows "i'm not interested" | 13:32 |
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| entil | coderus: maybe I misinterpreted, because you still have a lot of whatsapp buzz on igg | 13:32 |
| entil | imo, unless you have a solid opinion, whatsapp looks like a dead horse | 13:33 |
| coderus | whatsapp is stuff peoples want and stuff peoples are using | 13:39 |
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| entil | coderus: yeah, you're right, unfortunately :/ my grudge is that they'll permanently block people if they get busted a second time for using a 3rd party client | 13:44 |
| entil | so my guess is a lot of jolla users will not return to whatsapp, except maybe on the android client, because we should be afraid of getting permanently blocked | 13:44 |
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| pesasa | Any idea, why my Jolla hasn't been able to use 3G since yesterday morning? | 15:52 |
| pesasa | After boot it takes long time to find connection and when it gets it, it's only 2G. | 15:53 |
| pesasa | Same with sim from other operator. | 15:54 |
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| SK_work | check if you are using 2G only from data connection ? | 16:04 |
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| HBP_ | hmmh... have you tried any other phone? Maybe the cell is down/broken :P | 16:22 |
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| pesasa | HBP_: Wifes phone (same operator) works fine at same place. So does friends N9 (other operator). | 16:53 |
| pesasa | The phone has also shut down suddenly couple of times. I take it out of pocket, tap-tap it to wake it up, start sliding up and puf, power turns off. (no clean shutting down but just off) | 16:55 |
| HBP_ | have tried to clean battery contacts? | 16:56 |
| HBP_ | it worked for me when I had sudden reboots, shutdowns and hanging | 16:56 |
| pesasa | Something similar happened last summer and that time the reason was btrfs. Balancing rescued that time. Now the filesystem needed balancing also, but it didn't help. | 16:57 |
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| pesasa | I had those sudden reboots and shutdowns year ago, but haven't had those for a long time. | 16:57 |
| pesasa | This looks a little bit like that one: https://together.jolla.com/question/78614/3g-stopped-working-after-telephone-call-that-ended-because-of-empty-battery/ | 16:59 |
| pesasa | Without "empty battery". | 16:59 |
| Stskeeps | pesasa: contact care | 16:59 |
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| anandrkris | rainemak: Hi - Just want to know that I didn't misunderstood this https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/pull/139 | 17:04 |
| rainemak | anandrkris, hi | 17:05 |
| anandrkris | Just wanted to check - How do users add other search engines in browser? | 17:06 |
| rainemak | rozhkov, ^ | 17:06 |
| anandrkris | as per link shared no hardcoding is required to add search engines...and needs third party packages installation | 17:07 |
| anandrkris | rainemak: yeah...he closed it :) | 17:07 |
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| coderus | just put your searchengine xml to /usr/lib/mozembedlite/chrome/embedlite/content/ | 17:13 |
| coderus | easy | 17:13 |
| anandrkris | coderus :) | 17:13 |
| anandrkris | am worried about larger audience... | 17:14 |
| coderus | build package | 17:14 |
| coderus | easy | 17:14 |
| anandrkris | #PrivacyMatters should result in such things being available by default, IMO | 17:14 |
| coderus | can build package with extra engines like duckduckgo and startpage to openrepos | 17:15 |
| anandrkris | coderus: that would be helpful...thanks | 17:15 |
| anandrkris | Particualarly, if Google, Bing, Yahoo are available...DDG deserves to be there unless there is some legal angle | 17:16 |
| anandrkris | looks like some approval from DDG is needed to have official integration | 17:16 |
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| coderus | Baidu, DuckDuckGo, StartPage search engines for Sailfish Browser: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/search-engines-sailfish-browser | 17:44 |
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| coderus | anandrkris left... ;( | 17:55 |
| leszek | doesn't matter nice link anyway coderus :) I guess it uses the same files as firefox for search providers | 17:56 |
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| coderus | leszek: yes it shoud be same | 18:48 |
| coderus | tell me if you need some other engines to add | 18:48 |
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| piggz | is it possible to get the actual screen DPI fro Qt on SF? | 19:01 |
| piggz | QGuiApplication::primaryScreen()->physicalDotsPerInch() returns 100 | 19:02 |
| piggz | actual dpi is ~217 | 19:02 |
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| coderus | piggz: it's sbug, yes | 19:09 |
| coderus | reported a lot of times :) | 19:10 |
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| piggz | coderus: :/ | 19:12 |
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| giucam | that is all in the open source part though, so patches accepted ;) | 19:18 |
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| coderus | giucam: need some platform way to get real dpi first | 19:25 |
| giucam | coderus: we just need som glue code to tell qtwayland about the screen physical geometry | 19:25 |
| giucam | server side | 19:25 |
| giucam | the client side is done already | 19:26 |
| giucam | that is, upstream... can't remember if we have that in mer-qt | 19:26 |
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| giucam | if we don't it's a cherry-pick | 19:26 |
| coderus | giucam: ah, that way | 19:26 |
| r0kk3rz | wont this need to be sorted soon though? | 19:27 |
| r0kk3rz | because of tablet | 19:27 |
| giucam | possibly | 19:27 |
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| pesasa | HBP_, Stskeeps: I ended up doing factory reset. It returned 3G. Now couple rounds of updates and restore of backups. | 20:57 |
| Yaniel | hmm my 4g came back by itself | 20:59 |
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| zetaz | I got a QML vs C++ question : I want to populate a "ListModel" QML component from C++ side. I don't see how I can access this type from C++... I took a look at tweetian but it is doing almost everything in QML/JS. | 21:05 |
| zetaz | someone knows an app that do that so I can learn how ? | 21:05 |
| coderus | zetaz: wut? why? | 21:08 |
| coderus | just do onPopulateListModel: listMode.append(data) | 21:09 |
| zetaz | coderus: why ? because I have all the data availlable in C++, and need to push it to the QML who handles the graphical stuff.. | 21:09 |
| coderus | zetaz: if you have all data available in C++ write QAbstractListModel | 21:10 |
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| coderus | why inventing things? | 21:10 |
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| zetaz | coderus: I am not inventing things, I am learning QML ;) (which may lead to the same results at beginning...) | 21:10 |
| coderus | do the best thing in C++ | 21:11 |
| coderus | use QML only for gui | 21:11 |
| coderus | this is the secret of stability and performance in Qt | 21:11 |
| zetaz | coderus: so the ListView model part is an QAbstractListModel, so I just need to create it from C++ | 21:11 |
| zetaz | coderus: exactly what I am trying to do. GUI stuff works in QML, I have data in C++, but I am struggling to exchange more than a string between them | 21:12 |
| coderus | http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qabstractlistmodel.html | 21:12 |
| zetaz | coderus: thanks. I'll try to use this | 21:14 |
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| Nokius_ | coderus: nice thanks for the Search engine plugin | 21:17 |
| * Nokius_ for some resons the about:plugin is not correct visibile :-/ | 21:18 | |
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| coderus | Nokius_: because it's not optimized for touch :D | 21:36 |
| Nokius_ | coderus: in the night buit the size of the page is not fitting the screen | 21:36 |
| Nokius_ | coderus: sorry about:addons sorry bad memeory | 21:38 |
| coderus | addons are usable in sailfish browser? | 21:38 |
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| Nokius_ | coderus: good question had no time to test this :D | 21:42 |
| Nokius_ | see your twitter feed for the screen shot | 21:42 |
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| Nokius_ | coderus: okay will have a nape now | 21:48 |
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| saidinesh5 | hmm..... this seems trickier than i thought | 22:10 |
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| saidinesh5 | not storing swipeHints completely i mean | 22:10 |
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| cvp_ | where you can download all the update pictures? | 22:58 |
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| coderus | what? | 23:19 |
| satmd | s/pictures/images/ | 23:19 |
| satmd | common mistranslation | 23:19 |
| coderus | probably he means sailfish release promo images from settings - sailfishos | 23:20 |
| coderus | but i didn't saw anybody storing them | 23:20 |
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| satmd | just guessing and (s)he is gone already | 23:23 |
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