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| locusf | what what coderus mentioning glacier wtf | 08:23 |
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| SfietKontantinW | locusf: why not ? | 08:27 |
| locusf | SfietKontantinW: was just surprised, thats all :) | 08:27 |
| Tofe | coderus: has the replacement with glacier been documented somewhere ? | 08:28 |
| locusf | Tofe: http://locusf.blogspot.fi/2014/03/glacier-ui-homescreen-on-jolla.html | 08:28 |
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| Tofe | I'll have a look at the nemo homepage, maybe they talk about it | 08:28 |
| Tofe | locusf: thanks | 08:28 |
| locusf | Tofe: be careful with it though, resume to jolla-home after use and before a reboot | 08:29 |
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| Tofe | locusf: I use my Jolla for everyday use, so no, it's unfortunately no testing device | 08:30 |
| locusf | Tofe: okay :) | 08:31 |
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| Tofe | But the steps are really simple, that's very good | 08:32 |
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| coderus | locusf: what wrong with me? :D | 09:38 |
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| entil | coderus: got the email about libaxolotl tests, congrats again! | 09:42 |
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| coderus | entil: %) | 09:54 |
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| ikarus | *sigh* my development enviroment resembles duct-tape | 09:59 |
| ikarus | I need to figure out how to do compiles and test deploys without it | 09:59 |
| ikarus | because the version of qtcreator is unusable for me :( | 09:59 |
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| tortoisedoc | duh | 10:10 |
| locusf | coderus: nothing I was just surprised that you remembered it :) | 10:12 |
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| cvp_ | coderus, dont use this command "rm -rf /opt/alien/*" , i try this now, and the same happend like yesterday!! :( | 10:26 |
| Mikaela | is there some secret symlink in /opt/alien going somewhere not-so-nice? | 10:27 |
| cvp_ | coderus, @http://pastebin.com/G4iuJu6y | 10:28 |
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| pp | magic new mount | 10:28 |
| Nicd- | don't rm -rf directories you don't know the contents of :) | 10:29 |
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| cvp_ | ok how i can reset my phone without using Option 1 in recovery modus... to save my time for updating my phone from 1.0.0.5 to now | 10:32 |
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| coderus | cvp_: i know, and i thought you understood it yesterday also | 10:39 |
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| cvp_ | lol ok , i dont understand it :P | 10:39 |
| cvp_ | access to rootfs is possible | 10:39 |
| coderus | cvp_: mount -o subvolid=0 /mnt | 10:41 |
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| coderus | cd /mnt | 10:42 |
| coderus | btrfs subvolume snapshot /mnt/@home /mnt/factory-@home | 10:43 |
| coderus | should work if really only home is purged | 10:43 |
| coderus | but today i doubt so | 10:43 |
| coderus | as there is too many mounts under /opt/alien | 10:44 |
| cvp_ | .. its ok, yesterday i invest the time to setup my phone... and today too :D | 10:45 |
| coderus | cvp_: http://merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/%23sailfishos.2015-03-01.log.html#t2015-03-01T18:57:22 | 10:51 |
| cvp_ | yeah right... :/ | 10:52 |
| cvp_ | than i missunderstand you | 10:53 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 11:04 |
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| tortoisedoc | so | 12:00 |
| tortoisedoc | hows jolla been doing @ mwc | 12:00 |
| tortoisedoc | what news? :) | 12:00 |
| ShawnMcCool | ok, so where do i find an exhaustive list of icons etc available for the theme? | 12:01 |
| ShawnMcCool | for like this stuff hOS-i486-x86/usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient | 12:01 |
| ShawnMcCool | errr iconSource: "image://theme/icon-cover-next" | 12:01 |
| ShawnMcCool | so i have this list https://gist.github.com/ShawnMcCool/e7fea18b5695f8c499ad | 12:02 |
| ShawnMcCool | but i'm finding a remarkable lack of reference material | 12:02 |
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| Morpog_PC | ShawnMcCool, just check the icons in theme | 12:03 |
| ShawnMcCool | Morpog_PC: so i don't have a phone at this point that runs sailfish. so what do you mean by 'in theme'? | 12:04 |
| Morpog_PC | you can check it in emulator too | 12:04 |
| Morpog_PC | ShawnMcCool, /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch/icons | 12:04 |
| ShawnMcCool | ok, so like sshing into the machine and checking it out then? | 12:05 |
| Morpog_PC | yes | 12:05 |
| Zombywuf | Hi, is there any way to use network audio on the Jolla phone? | 12:05 |
| Zombywuf | Specifically playing audio through the phone from other devices? | 12:05 |
| Morpog_PC | ShawnMcCool, http://pastie.org/9993436 | 12:06 |
| Morpog_PC | thats from my Jolla | 12:06 |
| ShawnMcCool | thank you | 12:06 |
| ShawnMcCool | those are all in the theme folder, then? | 12:06 |
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| Morpog_PC | all in jolla theme in icons subfolder | 12:07 |
| leszek | ShawnMcCool: but keep in mind, when using them that they might change on every os update | 12:07 |
| Morpog_PC | have they ever? | 12:07 |
| ShawnMcCool | so, if i'm making a cover (and my goal is to ALWAYS appear native) then how should i reason about which theme icons to use and which to avoid? | 12:07 |
| ShawnMcCool | i guess the idea would be.. use the development beta of the OS all the time | 12:07 |
| ShawnMcCool | so you can fix your app before other people get it | 12:08 |
| Morpog_PC | yes | 12:08 |
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| ShawnMcCool | btw, how do the adoption trends look for jolla / sailfish ? | 12:08 |
| Morpog_PC | but I don't think that any icon changed yet | 12:08 |
| ShawnMcCool | is it falling off? | 12:08 |
| Morpog_PC | just more were added | 12:08 |
| Morpog_PC | well with the tablet being released soon it will get a new push | 12:09 |
| tortoisedoc | grr | 12:09 |
| Morpog_PC | the phone is over a year old now, surely people will start to wait now for a successor | 12:09 |
| tortoisedoc | why is my qtcreator gdb crashing when building sailfish qt creator | 12:09 |
| leszek | Morpog_PC: they changed the icon for tab in the default browser. I also had some error reports for 1.1.2.x webcat users that complain about the icon change creating some visual disturbances (misalligned stuff) | 12:11 |
| ShawnMcCool | if i wanted to acquire the sailfish silica qt modules separately (for experimenting with using Go w/ QT bindings) how might i go about doing so? | 12:15 |
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| coderus | ShawnMcCool: what you mean separately? | 12:42 |
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| ShawnMcCool | coderus: i guess i'm unclear as to how to bring 'sailfish silica' into a typical QT app that's not built with QT creator | 13:18 |
| Nicd- | Qt* | 13:18 |
| SfietKontantinW | Qt | 13:18 |
| SfietKontantinW | :D | 13:18 |
| artemma | ShawnMcCool you may like checking Sailfish HelloWorld Pro on github. I believe there were instructions on command line build | 13:19 |
| SfietKontantinW | ShawnMcCool: how do you build it ? | 13:19 |
| ShawnMcCool | SfietKontantinW: go compiler, something like this https://github.com/go-qml/qml/tree/v1/examples/controls | 13:20 |
| ShawnMcCool | artemma: thanks | 13:20 |
| SfietKontantinW | ShawnMcCool: interesting | 13:22 |
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| ShawnMcCool | i mean, frankly i'd rather use rust. once i get my phone in t minus 2 days then i'll be able to test it | 13:23 |
| ShawnMcCool | i find go hopelessly imperative | 13:23 |
| ShawnMcCool | but at least goroutines are simple | 13:23 |
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| coderus | ShawnMcCool: to qml ui, not to qt app | 13:26 |
| coderus | just import Sailfish.Silica 1.0 | 13:26 |
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| cvp_ | Patchmanager for Settings take so much time. Warehouse show 1000 times that the app dont react anymore, but its still work in the background | 13:34 |
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| cvp_ | reacts | 13:34 |
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| coderus | cvp_: it's warehouse problem | 13:38 |
| coderus | you can close warehouse after starting operation safely | 13:39 |
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| gogeta | coderus, how to close your floatin screenshot app ? | 13:55 |
| lachs0r | double tap | 13:56 |
| coderus | gogeta: yep, read description of application you installing please :) | 13:56 |
| gogeta | tnx | 13:56 |
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| anYc | Does anyone here know what kind of hardware the new pepple watch uses? I'm trying to understand what can be done on the watch itself and what on a supporting mobile phone - like the jolla :) | 14:17 |
| ikarus | anYc: it's pretty close to the old HW, just colour screen | 14:18 |
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| anYc | ok thanks! | 14:19 |
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| anYc | in case someone else is interested, they answered some questions on reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2x5aj4/were_eric_migicovsky_the_creators_of_pebble_time/ | 14:40 |
| anYc | switched from cortex m3 to m4 with 100mhz and more memory | 14:41 |
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| Nicd- | ooh, 64 kB of RAM | 14:50 |
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| saidinesh5 | Elleo: a bit of callgrind and some neat tricks later 25msec for the slowest word :D | 14:51 |
| saidinesh5 | i think BruteForceMatcher is good enough to be used in the final thing now | 14:51 |
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| saidinesh5 | about 6MB to cache some stuff .. i dont think thats too high price to pay for such speedups | 14:53 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: awesome :) | 14:54 |
| saidinesh5 | now testing things out on the tablet | 14:54 |
| saidinesh5 | and if nothing else you have your replacement for hunspell now :P | 14:54 |
| saidinesh5 | Elleo: btw. does QML's image element reuse the same textures? | 14:55 |
| saidinesh5 | like we have 30 keys... and if i use the same images in all those keys...... | 14:55 |
| saidinesh5 | would it reuse the same opengl texture for all those? | 14:55 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: cool, will have to dig into it later; especially if it does spatial stuff since that's something we need to get sorted soon | 14:55 |
| saidinesh5 | yup it does | 14:56 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: I'm not sure, I know there is some image caching stuff behind the scenes, but I'm not sure if it happens at the opengl level or not | 14:56 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh okay was wondering about images vs. gradients to cut memory there | 14:56 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: I think at one point I might have tried removing the border images from our keys to see if it made an appreciable difference to memory usage, and I don't think it did | 14:57 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: but I might be misremembering, it's entirely possible that I *intended* to do that but then got big memory savings elsewhere and never came back to it | 14:57 |
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| saidinesh5 | yes but you are already using images arent you? I am currently using gradients , so i am quite curious if performance differs | 14:58 |
| Elleo | ah, right | 14:58 |
| Elleo | yeah, no idea about a comparison with gradients | 14:58 |
| saidinesh5 | also checking out with your binaries tonight | 14:59 |
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| saidinesh5 | the maliit framework with mir backend | 14:59 |
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| saidinesh5 | thats about to be merged with your maliit framework right? | 14:59 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: yeah, sorry that patch hasn't been included yet; we've hit feature freeze for vivid now, so I'm going to have to try and sort out feature freeze exceptions for that sort of thing if they're permitted to go in | 14:59 |
| saidinesh5 | ohh | 15:00 |
| saidinesh5 | wait vivid is 15.04? | 15:00 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: yeah | 15:00 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah so the devices shipping currently automatically get the updates? | 15:00 |
| saidinesh5 | basically i m curious what my target timeline should be.. | 15:01 |
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| Elleo | saidinesh5: so worst case scenario if we aren't allowed an exception for that (which we might not be, due to it shifting a fair amount of functionality around), is that it'll need to wait until vivid+1 opens in a little over a month | 15:01 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh so basically hitting the stores anytime from now to 6 months from now? | 15:01 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: yeah, well and being sent to existing devices via updates | 15:02 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh | 15:02 |
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| saidinesh5 | well on the bright side, that means lots of time for testing | 15:02 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: got a planning meeting now, so will have to disappear for a bit | 15:02 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh sure | 15:02 |
| saidinesh5 | have fun | 15:02 |
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| SpeedEvil | http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/15/03/02/155219/jolla-partners-with-ssh-to-create-sailfish-secure for those with mod points | 16:47 |
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| c0ck4m0u53 | Hi guys. Just updated to U11 and everything looks good, except FastDial app from openrepos crashes when launched. Also tried to add the proposed line to /usr/share/mapplauncherd/privileges but it does not help. Can anyone please confirm this? | 17:08 |
| SfietKontantinW | c0ck4m0u53: do you have any logs before crash ? | 17:11 |
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| c0ck4m0u53 | SfietKontantinW: just tried launching it from terminal and got this:"[W] ContactsEngine::ContactsEngine 803 - The "mergePresenceChanges" option has not been configured- presence changes will only be reported via ContactsManagerEngine::contactsPresenceChanged()" That is the first one | 17:16 |
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| SfietKontantinW | c0ck4m0u53: weired | 17:17 |
| SfietKontantinW | I guess this will need an update | 17:17 |
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| c0ck4m0u53 | SfietKontantinW: Second one I believe is the key to all of this:) "[F] qt_assert_x:2014 - ASSERT failure in qRegisterNormalizedMetaType: "qRegisterNormalizedType was called with a not normalized type name, please call qRegisterMetaType instead." file /usr/include/qt5/QtCore/qmetatype.h line 1575" | 17:20 |
| c0ck4m0u53 | SfietKontantinW: I do agree with you on an update comment:D | 17:21 |
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| SfietKontantinW | c0ck4m0u53: yeah, the assert is the issue | 17:21 |
| SfietKontantinW | and here, too bad, it needs an update | 17:21 |
| c0ck4m0u53 | Ok so it looks like it needs an update as Im not the only one with the problem | 17:22 |
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| coderus | somebody just don't know what is registerNormalized and used it instead of regular type registration :D | 17:36 |
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| leszek | A method with a header like so: QString saveFileName(const QUrl &url); cannot be called from QML am I right or am I just too stupid to figure out how ? | 17:39 |
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| leszek | method in c++ | 17:39 |
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| coderus | leszek: just stupid | 17:43 |
| SfietKontantinW | leszek: QUrl might not be available from QML | 17:43 |
| SfietKontantinW | (hint: it is not) | 17:43 |
| SfietKontantinW | and you need to have it Q_INVOKABLE | 17:43 |
| coderus | move it to public slots or declare Q_INVOKABLE | 17:43 |
| coderus | SfietKontantinW: it is available | 17:43 |
| coderus | property url | 17:44 |
| SfietKontantinW | coderus: ha ? | 17:44 |
| SfietKontantinW | cool | 17:44 |
| SfietKontantinW | :) | 17:44 |
| coderus | SfietKontantinW: sure, for ages | 17:44 |
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| SfietKontantinW | coderus: never used it. Always used QString | 17:45 |
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| coderus | :) | 17:46 |
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| leszek | It is already in public slot but ... ah damnit I am just stupid and made a stupid typo :P | 17:53 |
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| coderus | as i said, right | 18:00 |
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| tortoisedoc | grumblegrumble | 18:10 |
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| tortoisedoc | coderus : the intent relying agent you made | 18:19 |
| tortoisedoc | what is the format of intents? | 18:19 |
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| coderus | i don't remember | 18:35 |
| coderus | check sources | 18:35 |
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| Nokius|jolla_ | did someone found maps for monav? the finland maps is less useful for me most links i found with a web search are dead =( | 18:49 |
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| Nokius|jolla_ | off to SailfishOS meetup in Berlin cu | 19:00 |
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| coderus | марта 03 00:26:42 Jolla lipstick[23838]: [W] QEglFSWindow::QEglFSWindow:58 - QEglWindow 0x1b9afb0: 0x1ad8190 0x0 | 19:27 |
| coderus | boom :D | 19:27 |
| coderus | марта 03 00:26:42 Jolla lipstick[23838]: WARNING: virtual int FbDevNativeWindow::setBufferCount(int): allocated only 2 buffers out of 3 | 19:27 |
| coderus | and crrrrash | 19:27 |
| coderus | f xnj ns ltkftim nj& | 19:28 |
| coderus | oops and wrong window | 19:28 |
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| tortoisedoc | coderus : what are you doing :P | 19:54 |
| tortoisedoc | QEglFSWindow? O_io | 19:54 |
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| coderus | tortoisedoc: just a lipstick crash | 19:56 |
| coderus | doing new cool patch :) | 19:56 |
| tortoisedoc | eww | 19:56 |
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| tortoisedoc | coderus : you been to mwc? | 20:01 |
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| coderus | tortoisedoc: no | 20:09 |
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| coderus | Nokius_: contributions welcome? https://github.com/Nokius/harbour-tagesschau :D | 20:23 |
| Nokius_ | ;) | 20:24 |
| Nokius_ | yes | 20:24 |
| Nokius_ | it's there since day 0 | 20:26 |
| coderus | lol, and you showed me some abstract git paste all the time :D | 20:26 |
| Nokius_ | coderus: :) yeap I not so familiar with git :,( | 20:29 |
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| M4rtinK | Das ist eine aplha für eine native Tageschau Appliation für SailfishOS. | 20:31 |
| M4rtinK | *Applikation* | 20:31 |
| coderus | ^ а я ему помогал | 20:32 |
| M4rtinK | ^ hele, je fakt rusky neumím :D | 20:32 |
| coderus | ^ а я по вашему тоже не понимаю | 20:33 |
| Nokius_ | ah | 20:33 |
| Nokius_ | thanks | 20:34 |
| Nokius_ | :,( f*ck u dyslexia | 20:34 |
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| coderus | Nokius_: who is it? | 20:36 |
| Nokius_ | coderus: what? | 20:36 |
| Nokius_ | who? | 20:37 |
| coderus | dyslexia | 20:38 |
| Nokius_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia | 20:38 |
| dr_Gogeta86 | Nokius_, ever +1 | 20:38 |
| coderus | oh | 20:39 |
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| tortoisedoc | coderus : no package on openrepos for aliendalvik-control? | 20:46 |
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| m4g0g | wow | 20:47 |
| m4g0g | there is update! | 20:47 |
| Nokius_ | did someone know the native Applivation | 20:48 |
| Nokius_ | for wordpress | 20:48 |
| Nokius_ | ? | 20:48 |
| Nokius_ | M4rtinK: fixed thx ;) | 20:48 |
| M4rtinK | Nokius_: no problem :) | 20:48 |
| m4g0g | Nokius_: for blogging via wordpewss or what? | 20:49 |
| Nokius_ | yeap iirc there is one | 20:49 |
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| coderus | tortoisedoc: no | 20:52 |
| coderus | it's available in github releases | 20:52 |
| tortoisedoc | hmhm | 20:55 |
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| tortoisedoc | coderus : nice work btw on that :) | 20:58 |
| coderus | :D | 20:58 |
| tortoisedoc | must have been kewl to scrape into the alien dalvit internals | 20:59 |
| tortoisedoc | *dalvik as well | 20:59 |
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| coderus | tortoisedoc: it was not me | 21:03 |
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| coderus | it's attah: https://together.jolla.com/question/38863/how-do-i-trigger-an-android-intent-from-outside-alien-dalvik/?answer=81458#post-id-81458 | 21:04 |
| tortoisedoc | oh ok kewl :) | 21:06 |
| tortoisedoc | so only credit to you for coding it :P | 21:06 |
| tortoisedoc | grr | 21:06 |
| tortoisedoc | my laptop's disk is giving up | 21:06 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus, what license you have for the aliendalvik-control? | 21:11 |
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| coderus | tortoisedoc: i have no licenses | 21:17 |
| tortoisedoc | ok | 21:17 |
| coderus | i'm not using it | 21:17 |
| coderus | basically everything i'm coding is wtfpl | 21:17 |
| coderus | only libaxolotl will be gpl3 because it's not my protocol :D | 21:17 |
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| Nokius | nn | 23:52 |
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| coderus | Nokius: ? | 23:56 |
| Nokius | coderus: gn8 :) | 23:57 |
| coderus | Nokius: :D | 23:57 |
| coderus | Nokius: i have a new patch, wanna test? :D | 23:57 |
| Nokius | coderus: tell me more :D | 23:57 |
| coderus | https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-launcher-combined-patch | 23:59 |
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