Thursday, 2015-03-12

Olpeoh it worked inside qtcreator, not from command line00:00
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vakkovis there a native Here maps client for sfos00:57
vakkovstill? i know there was one in the beginning00:57
vakkovor maybe im in a mistake ;D01:01
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bluszczusing qsTr is enoug for provide multispeaking app?01:49
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thpvakkov: yes, there is a native maps client. should be in the store under the jolla category06:24
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SaberAltriaHello06:30
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Ponchalehi06:49
Ponchaleas found this day06:51
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Nokiusx86: okay good to know06:55
PonchaleI have a technical question Where can I download the source sailfish with all its dependencies?06:56
chriadamopensource parts: http://releases.sailfishos.org/sources/06:58
Ponchaleone would have to open the project with qt and basically could start modifying the code?07:01
Ponchaleor to do any special installation later?07:03
tbrPonchale: note that Sailfish is a commercial OS and is not completely open source. If you want to do something non-commercial there is the HADK. If you want to do something commercial, inquire with Jolla for a licensing arrangement.07:06
Ponchaleok thanks07:12
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Nokiusbluszcz: and you need the translations ;)07:39
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Nokiusx86: moved the fish up and made a other one [but may the Icon / soundcloud policy will not allow this one] https://gist.github.com/Nokius/8a9e2c6895bd587b059c07:54
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bluszczNokius: :D08:16
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coderusBattery Overlay updated to v0.2.0 with tons of new features! https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/battery-overlay08:32
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SaberAltriaI am installing the Sailfish Os SDK but when installing, it hangs08:47
SaberAltriaIn terminal, it shows "(SailfishOSSDK-Beta-1502-Qt5-linux-64-offline.run:12701): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed08:48
SaberAltria"08:48
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JonniSaberAltria:  run “export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0” before running the installer.08:56
Jonni(that is mentioned in known issues faq)08:56
SaberAltriaI tried before you told me08:58
aquellocoderus: can make saving the battery status?08:58
aquelloto have some graph of it ?08:58
SaberAltriabut if i type this, it even dont start up the installer08:58
SaberAltriaJonni: no window pops up, if I added that prefix08:59
SaberAltriaI am using elementary os, just newly installed my os09:00
SaberAltriaThe whole command I typed is : saber@SABER-NB:~/Downloads$ LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0" ./SailfishOSSDK-Beta-1502-Qt5-linux-64-offline.run09:00
coderusaquello: yes, but please post your idea to forum or openrepos, else i will forgot about it ;D09:01
Jonniah that export usually helps on ubuntu systems, no idea about elementary, usually wierd distributions might have too old virtualbox installed09:02
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coderusJonni: it's about installed not virtualbox, right?09:03
coderuswhat installer is using? qt4? maybe SaberAltria don't have it installed?09:03
coderushttp://merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/%23sailfishos.2013-03-02.log.html#t2013-03-02T21:44:3409:04
coderus>> lbt: workaround: install qtconfig-qt4 and change gui style to motif09:04
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pketolaiSaberAltria: is there an extra " on that commandline after the LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0?09:14
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paviYo folks ! I promise to be online now that I got a irc client running on server. Has anyone thought of writing a Quassel client for Jolla ?09:46
Nicd-the IRC client in the store has some quassel support09:47
Nicd-or at least nonreleased versions of it do09:47
cryoratpavi, use a bouncer09:57
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cryoratthe IRC client in the store has terrible bouncer support :(((09:57
Juubascreen + irssi, what else do you need?09:59
Mikaelacryorat: which bouncer and version are you using? jpnurmi is also ZNC developer and it has perfect ZNC support.10:00
Mikaelapavi: https://github.com/communi/communi-sailfish/issues/7310:01
Nicd-Juuba: tmux! :P10:01
cryoratMikaela, I use ZNC :) but i have some serious issues with private messaging10:12
cryorathonestly i didnt try it since last update but i'll look into it10:12
Mikaelacryorat: which ZNC and what kind of issues?10:13
cryorati cant tell you right now the exact version but its 1.0+ if i remember correctly10:13
MikaelaOlder than 1.6.0 need "privmsg" module for syncing PMs between attached clients and 1.6.0 has znc.in/somecapability for getting PMs automatically and client must support that and Communi/IRC from store support it.10:14
Mikaela/msg *status version10:14
cryoratand the issue was when someone write a private message to me te message appeared in the server window10:14
Mikaelaweird. you might want to try asking that on #communi10:15
cryoratThanks for the parametres. i have 1.4 btw10:15
MikaelaYou might want to upgrade sometime as 1.4 is vulnerable to POODLE and FREAK and what others10:16
cryoratMikaela, thanks, i will, jpnurmi was helpful last time :)10:16
SaberAltriapketolai: oh yup, I am so careless = =10:16
Mikaelayou're welcome10:16
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sandsmarkpavi: I planned on porting the normal quasselclient10:29
sandsmarkjust need to port it to qtquick first10:29
Armadillothe irc client also has support for quassel10:32
sandsmarkit didn't work very well for me10:32
sandsmarkit tried to use it more like a normal ircd iirc10:32
Armadillowell you could optimize it instead of writing another client ;)10:33
Armadilloopen source and so on :)10:33
sandsmarkI'm not planning on writing another client10:33
sandsmarkI'm planning on cleaning up the official client10:33
sandsmarkinstead of re-implementing the protocol (i. e. more like a new client :-P)10:33
Armadillothere is an official client?10:33
sandsmarkfor quassel?10:33
Armadilloyes10:33
sandsmarkquasselclient? :p10:33
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Armadilloso irc for sailfish depends on quasselclient or what's the connection between the two? *confused*10:36
sandsmarkno, I plan on porting quasselclient to qtquick (which sput started on a long time ago, but never completed), and then use that on sailfish10:36
Armadilloah ok10:36
Armadillonow I got it^^10:37
sandsmarkso, in theory just load some different qml files on desktop and on mobile10:37
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OlpeHey. Can somebody test if this link works: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/working-hours-tracker/   And if the project is open for translations from anyone10:58
pavicryorat: bouncer ? whats that ?10:58
cryoratpavi, real cool stuff10:59
paviMikaela: thanks for the link to git hub issue on Quassel10:59
Mikaelayou'rew elcome10:59
cryoratits an irc service which stay connected while you away10:59
Mikaelahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_%28software%2910:59
pavisandsmark: so you are modifying quassel official to support sailfish os if I read correctly11:00
sandsmarkpavi: eventually, when I have time11:00
pavicryorat: so bouncer is like an alternative to quassel or is it for hiding the IP address ?11:01
ArmadilloOlpe access to translate has always to be guaranteed for each user which can be managed by the language coordinators11:01
cryoratpavi, yep11:01
Mikaelapavi: you could think Quassel as stupid bouncer that only allows Quassel to connect while other bouncers like ZNC work with all clients11:02
Olpeok Armadillo thanks. accepted your request11:02
Mikaelaincluding Quassel and Smuxi (which is like Quassel)11:02
cryoratbut you can use a cloak if its the only reason for that11:02
paviMikaela: ahh I understand , so we can connect with the default client of sailfish os to bouncer while quassel needs its own client11:02
Mikaelayes11:02
Mikaelaand you can also connect desktop Quassel to ZNC bouncer assuming you use the monolithic version11:03
OlpeSo the link was correct and I can share it... Armadillo ?11:03
cryoratand you can use the same bouncer to connect with a desktop client11:03
paviby the way I find Quassel KDE client really good looking . It adapts with the theme and gives nice notifications11:03
aquellowithout account dont work Olpe cant translate11:03
* Mikaela uses WeeChat which is connected to ZNC and both are on same host and Communi-Sailfish (IRC in store) is connected to it11:04
* pavi was a xchat user and is now tempted by quassel 11:04
MikaelaXChat is not developed anymore and has multiple issues like missing SASL support and not supporting TLS (which means you cannot connect to most of networks and bouncers). You can use your current config with HexChat (instructions: http://goo.gl/qqnBsh). HexChat's homepage: http://goo.gl/HIQ6V011:05
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paviMikaela: just curious does the current IRC client on sailfish os support SSL I never checked it11:06
Mikaelait does and also SASL11:06
Mikaelamy ZNC is configured to only allow connecting without SSL from 127.0.0.1 and ::1 (where the only non-SSL listener is listening)11:07
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paviMikaela: thats cool , I am thinking of migrating from Quassel to ZNC especially for the multiple client support11:09
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* pavi was a quassel user for only 4 hours :P11:09
Mikaelaremember that you need to run some client to connect to ZNC11:10
Mikaela2015-03-12 13:10:37+0200 -- CTCP reply from Mikaela: VERSION WeeChat 1.2-dev (git: v1.1-142-g74a07de) via ZNC - 1.7.x-git-117-3f73231 - http://znc.in11:10
Mikaela2015-03-12 13:10:38+0200 -- CTCP reply from Mikaela: VERSION libcommuni 3.4.0 - http://communi.github.io via ZNC - 1.7.x-git-117-3f73231 - http://znc.in11:10
paviMikaela: how about quassel KDE client ?11:11
Mikaelathe latter is IRC from store or development version of it11:11
pavior did you mean client to connect to IRC I would install http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC11:11
MikaelaI am not familiar with that, but if it can connect to normal IRC servers it should be OK. I don't want to test though as I am using MATE and KDE sounds like it's going to pull a lot of KDE11:11
MikaelaYou would install ZNC to somewhere that is always up and then tell your IRC clients to connect to the ZNC which you installed11:12
paviMikaela: there is also quassel Qt client , it doesnt pull KDE stuff11:12
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MikaelaI think that the "quassel" package should work, but I have no idea about "quassel-client*" as it says to be client component11:13
Mikaelathe following packages will be installed:   libindicate-qt1 libindicate5 libqt4-sql-sqlite quassel quassel-data11:13
Mikaelanot too bad11:13
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Mikaelaseems to work with ZNC11:21
Mikaelaexcept that Quassel doesn't support server-time so there are duplicate timestamps11:21
Mikaela[13:18:59] <Mikaela> [13:13:53] not too bad11:21
ArmadilloOlpe sorry was at lunch, yes it works11:32
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Olpenp Armadillo11:45
Olpethx11:45
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frazzledgullsorry... clicked with 2-mousebutton....11:47
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leszekanyone got kdeconnect working for file copying from pc to jolla ?12:02
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merlin1991pavi: quassel can do for you what znc does15:01
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merlin1991install quasselcore on some server and connect with quassel-client to that core from unlimited pcs15:01
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merlin1991hm I only read half of the backlog, looks like you know that :D15:02
merlin1991sandsmark: I'm going a different route, I'm implementing the quassel protocol in python to use it with pyotherside :)15:04
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sandsmarkI don't like python, everytime I use it grows exponentially harder to keep stuff non-broken when the program grows :p15:04
sandsmarknot a fan of duck typing15:05
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chem|stsandsmark: should try EFL then, you don't keep stuff non-broken ever so why care^^15:06
sandsmarkthe enlightenment stuff?15:06
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nitroxleecherGreetings Sailfish community! Question: If I need help on QML on Sailfish, is this the right place and if not, where to go?16:24
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ikarusyes16:26
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nitroxleecherI have a page I'm trying to push on the pageStack but i get "ReferenceError: ServerEditItemPage is not defined". Can anyone help? code at http://2b3.cc:55155/cgit/cgit.cgi/code/cpp/sailsonic.git/tree/SailSonic/qml/pages/ServerListPage.qml16:36
coderusnitroxleecher: look at http://2b3.cc:55155/cgit/cgit.cgi/code/cpp/sailsonic.git/tree/SailSonic/qml/pages/ServerListPage.qml#n2516:36
coderuslook again at http://2b3.cc:55155/cgit/cgit.cgi/code/cpp/sailsonic.git/tree/SailSonic/qml/pages/ServerListPage.qml#n2516:36
coderusand again look at http://2b3.cc:55155/cgit/cgit.cgi/code/cpp/sailsonic.git/tree/SailSonic/qml/pages/ServerListPage.qml#n2516:36
coderuspageStack.push(Qt.resolvedUrl("ServerEditItemPage.qml"), {"dataIndex": index})16:37
coderus;)16:37
nitroxleecherThanks very much. sorry for the elementary question.16:39
coderusno problems :)16:40
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lsm5anybody in here know if the jolla phone available in india would also work in the US (T-Mobile) ..or wrong place to ask?19:05
tbrlsm5: work yes, but not sure how happy you'll be with it19:06
lpotter2G only in the US19:06
tbrI'm pretty sure that's the same model worldwide and that doesn't play well with US networks19:07
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tbrexactly19:07
lsm5tbr: lpotter ohh 2G only? :(19:07
lpotterwell.. there's always wifi :)19:07
lsm5here i was hoping to get rid of android ... might be a little longer i think19:07
tbrlsm5: US has different bands in use for 3G and 4G19:07
lsm5lpotter: wifi yes, but 2G may not help too much on the go19:08
lsm5tbr: hmm :\19:09
lsm5thanks tbr lpotter19:09
tbrlsm5: for the US running it on something like a Nexus5 is probably more promising. Ofc you don't get the android compat layer.19:09
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lsm5tbr: so the android compat layer isn't available by default?19:10
lsm5tbr: i might need it for a few apps like textsecure ..and maybe banking stuff19:11
tbrlsm5: aliendalvik is a commercial product that jolla only licensed for their phone19:11
lsm5:(19:12
lsm5i see19:12
tbrI've been saying people should work on at least a minimal framebuffer AOSP build or such19:12
tbrbecause aliendalvik is pretty much that, on steroids19:12
* lsm5 hopes jolla launches soon in US :|19:13
Nicd-jolla 1 probably never will I think19:15
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Stskeepstbr: s/phone/os/19:24
tbrStskeeps: s/os/commercial\ products/19:25
tbrStskeeps: or do you offer aliendalvik for sailfishos on N5 too now?19:25
Stskeepstbr: not at this exact moment but i don't consider it impossible with some of the good work we've done in that area for tablet19:26
Stskeepsthe moment thing being more of a technical nature19:26
tbrStskeeps: so it's really a technical issue not a licensing issue?19:26
tbrinteresting19:26
Stskeepsright19:27
tbralways thought it was other way around19:27
Stskeepsalien dalvik is so cool even mark shuttleworth came by our booth to ask how it worked :)19:27
Stskeepsdespite some of it's faults, that is19:28
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tbrhehe19:34
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r0kk3rz Stskeeps by the sounds of it, its better than anything else available19:45
r0kk3rzaside from running android of course19:45
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pavimerlin1991: yes Quassel does everything I want and I am actually more than happy with it. The only thing missing was the support on sailfish os . Ifonly I could read IRC message on phone via quassel I would be very pleased :D19:55
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TemeVwasn't there some test version of irc app that had quassel support20:00
paviTemeV: no idea ? but I was given this link in the morning https://github.com/communi/communi-sailfish/issues/7320:02
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TemeVhttps://github.com/communi/communi-sailfish/releases/tag/v1.0-alpha20:04
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TemeV"Experimental Quassel support"20:04
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GuzikHi. How to build static library from qt creator using Sailfish IDE ofc?21:19
GuzikTried CONFIG+=staticlib or QMAKE_LFLAGS += -static without any luck21:20
GuzikAll I get is: /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: cannot find -lQt5Quick (etc)21:20
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paviTemeV: so if it means experimental , how do I enable it ?21:31
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sledgesGuzik: mailing list is another go-to place22:26
sledgessailfish-devel22:26
Guziksledges: Thank you, I will try there22:28
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KabouikHey there. I just received an AEE MD10 action camera, which has wifi function that connects to an Android application. Unfortunately that does not work on my Jolla because the wifi connection has problems (the icon has the escamation mark inside)23:25
KabouikIs there a limitation in Sailfish that prevents such kind of wifi connections?23:25
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ikaruslikely23:26
ikarusWifi is managed differently on Sailfish, so Android apps can't do weird stuff when it comes to the actual AP modes and such23:27
lpotterif it uses ad hoc connection, then jolla will not support that23:27
bluszczstupid question, how to generate rpm for harbour?23:27
KabouikThat's a shame, there are plenty of videos showing the wifi connection with the camera, that was what convinced me to buy one :/23:27
KabouikThere's no workaround ikarus?23:28
lpotteryou could probably do it manually from the commandline23:28
lpotterif it does use ad hoc23:28
KabouikIt's actually the camera that shares an SSID, and I connect to it with the Jolla23:29
lpotterjust that connman does not support that, so you have to do around it :)23:29
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KabouikI enter the password, it seems to work (password is accepted and Wifi icon is OK), and then 5-10 sec later, the excalamtion mark in the icon23:29
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Kabouikhttps://together.jolla.com/question/28818/request-wlan-ad-hoc-mode/ I see that but it's the Jolla that creates an ad hoc connection, and the camera cannot connect to any wifi, it just creates its own and waits for connections23:31
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bluszczi mean - build with qtcreator should be fine?23:39
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