Wednesday, 2015-03-18

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tortoisedochmhm is iekku ooo?08:26
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rubdosI can't seem to find the Silica documentation... Any clue where it is?09:43
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coderusrubdos: you ignoring dev mailing list and together.jolla.com because?..09:47
rubdosbecause IRC is faster :) I mean, anything like doc.qt.io09:48
rubdosI'd like to use the Slider component, but can't seem to find examples or documentation09:49
SandyMoonlightHi all09:50
leszekWTF harbour rejected webcat because I had an example path in a comment :P Stupid auto checking tools.09:50
SandyMoonlightrubdos: apparently it's gone for now and can be found here:09:51
SandyMoonlighthttp://web.archive.org/web/20141104162755/https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/index.html09:51
rubdosLol, should have thought of that when seeing the dead link :)09:51
leszekrubdos: Or you can find it in the SDK documentation09:51
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rubdosleszek, in my installfolder/documentation, I only see qch (what are they? :p) files...09:53
leszekrubdos: open the sdk and then click on help on the right bar. Then click on Sailfish Silica Reference Documentation09:54
rubdosah09:54
rubdosgui09:54
rubdosrgr09:54
leszekyep09:54
leszekit is build into the sdk09:54
leszekyou can also highlight the Slider sourcecode and press F1 which will directly jump to the documentation09:54
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rubdosthank you :)09:55
leszek*highlight the Slider keyword in the sourcecode09:55
rubdosoh, nice :D09:55
rubdosI never expect gui's to be smart... Should change my mind some day09:56
leszekNow to the harbour problem anyone who is able to change the rules or correct the problem. The checking tool of harbour should not validate comments starting with // or /*09:56
leszekrubdos: by hitting F2 you can also directly jump into the sourcecode of this particular component. You might not be able to change anything there but see some stuff that you won't find in the documentation that might help you doing the stuff what you want09:57
rubdosgreat :D09:57
leszekand I use it all the time aswell :)09:57
coderusrubdos: write Slider {} in your code, slick on SLider, and then press F1. ~~~It's magic!~~~10:12
coderusi have small secrec, but you shouldn't tell it to anybody else: you can also press F1 to get information about any other types of elements, this works in C++/Qt code also10:13
rubdosSorry guys, first timer here for Sailfish programming... And not really used to gui's :)10:13
* rubdos thinks coderus is a little frustrated :/10:13
leszek:D10:13
coderusi'd say it;s first time you using IDE for development, not "first timer here for Sailfish programming"10:14
rubdosNah, I used Visual studio before... But now I'm on vim and make :p10:14
Nicd-to be honest I'd google for documentation first too10:15
rubdosOn the other hand: I have to thank you for both of your overlay apps. Screenshots are easy and battery overlay is very useful!10:15
Nicd-I usually never use documentation that comes with IDEs, it's less convenient than having them open in my browser10:15
leszekthe google generation :P10:15
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Nicd-and I think it's stupid not to have silica documentation online anymore10:15
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leszekNicd-: It was guaranteed to me that it will come back. I guess they wait until 2.0 release for this as many things might change there aswell.10:16
Nicd-yeah, I know they'll come back but I think they shouldn't have disappeared in the first place10:17
leszekNicd-: yeah true that was also something I complained about initially10:17
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rubdosleszek, I duckduckgo it :p10:18
fluxon the other hand: local docs are for the IDE generation?-P10:18
leszekrubdos: hey good. I also use duckduckgo :)10:18
fluxof course, if they are provided in a nice format such as info docs10:18
leszekand if I need the power of google search i can !ix <searchterm> in duckduckgo10:18
fluxthen that's of course nice!10:18
rubdosLet's go more off topic: if you're a Ryzom player, I'm going to write a ddg plugin for searching the wiki :p (BTT, srry :P )10:18
flux(actually: I would _love_ manual pages for Silica & sailfish in general)10:18
leszekflux: can't they be auto generated somehow ?10:21
fluxI imagine yes, if the original is in a nice format (ie. compatible with doxygen)10:22
leszekI thought there was an html to manpage converter like there is a manpage to html converter10:26
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fluxit's maybe not quite as easy to do11:04
fluxin a generic fashion11:05
fluxbecause manual pages have much more limited ways to format the content11:05
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leszekharbour go home you're drunk11:29
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leszekcommented // example: /home/nemo/Downloads/foo.bar and it complains about hardcoded path. Change it to // example: home/nemo/Downloads/foo.bar and it does not complain11:29
leszekthanks for waisting my time jolla hq11:30
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chem|stwhere do I find the vkb layouts?12:14
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coderuschem|st: https://openrepos.net/search/node/sailfish%20keyboard12:44
coderusget any and extract :)12:44
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rubdosSo, the thing works with the Sliders :D (I'm controlling a PID controller via Arduino and WiFi), but I'd like to have the sliders vertical, and the docs explicitly state "Horizontal slider"... Any idea on what component I could use?13:28
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m4g0ghi14:01
m4g0gI want to add translations to my application. How I can do it in sailfish-way?14:01
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coderusrubdos: yeah, i have idea, but you left irc and can't receive it :D14:05
coderusm4g0g: there is no sailfish-way14:05
coderusthere is only qt-way14:05
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coderusbut there is sailfishapp_i18n config for creating translations, if you want to use something builtin14:10
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SandyMoonlighthi all, sorry to bother14:14
SandyMoonlightI'm looking for a framework to functional test a qml application14:15
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SandyMoonlightI saw there was a Testability framework back in ythe MeeGo days, but I doesn't seem maintained14:15
m4g0g coderus: usual QTranslator + path to translations?14:17
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coderusSandyMoonlight: framework? peoples making unit-tests using QtTest from QT testlib14:19
coderusm4g0g: sure14:20
coderusapp.installTranslator14:20
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SandyMoonlightcoderus: I'm ok with QtTestLib for unit tests. I am looking for something for functional testing.14:21
m4g0gcoderus: what does sailfishapp_i18n give to me?14:23
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coderusm4g0g: automatically compiling your ts files when building project. look into SailfishOS/mersdk/targets/SailfishOS-armv7hl/usr/share/qt5/mkspecs/features/sailfishapp_i18n.prf for details14:34
SandyMoonlightcoderus: the MeeGo team was apparently using Testability, so I would have expected Jolla or the Sailfish guys to use something of that kind, but I haven't found anything by googling14:34
cornehttps://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/blink-dev/T9evTlqPqTY14:43
cornehehe14:43
corneoops14:44
cornewrong channel14:44
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chem|stcoderus: /usr/share/maliit was the right answer14:46
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m4g0gcoderus: does sdk have linguist? I can't find it ^-(14:55
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coderusadd build dependency if nave no15:03
coderusm4g0g ^15:04
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uuhimhereso gpu in raspberry pi 1 > pandy gpu??16:39
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sledgesanyone up for testing a mini app on jolla1 to help nexus5 camera porters?17:40
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carepackavailable from the inet then yes;)17:45
sledgescarepack: you'll have to compile it natively on-device ;)17:45
sledgeshttps://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=803#c217:45
merbotNemo bug 803 in Hybris-ing "[hammerhead] taking photos works only when cameraplus is started while the phone is being charged" [Major,New]17:45
carepacksledges. Ok then it would be later. maybe another one before I'm ready?17:47
sledgesi'll ask on #jollamobile too, let's see which one wins ;)17:47
carepack;)17:48
coderussledges: on device?17:49
sledgesMorpog_PC won ;)17:49
sledgescoderus: you can crosscompile it outside if you have the env17:49
sledgesis more like for people who are on the go now;)17:49
Morpog_PCbetter let coderus do it :D17:50
coderussledges: i mean i can compile it in sdk?17:50
sledgesyes17:50
coderusokay :D17:50
Morpog_PCnot really excited to compile on device :D17:50
coderusjust your description was scared :D17:50
Morpog_PCand I'm sure coderus got everything set up for cross compile ;)17:50
uuhimheredoes switching to art bring in performance iver dalvik?17:51
Morpog_PCsometimes yes, sometimes not17:51
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sledgesok lads;) i just compiled it on device, man that felt good :D17:52
sledgespackage installation took like 30seconds17:52
sledgesof g++ and devel17:52
sledgesheaders17:52
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Morpog_PCnow package and upload it :D17:52
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coderussledges: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1062226017:53
sledgescoderus: and if usb cable unplugged?17:54
sledges(you can use screen to copy/paste later;))17:54
coderushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1062228117:54
coderuswhat you mean use screen?17:55
coderusi have hotkeys for pasting to paste services17:55
sledgeseven better;)17:55
sledgescoderus: much thanks! hope it will help the porter17:55
coderuscan paste text to pastebin, images to imgur17:55
coderusneed to configure it to paste to gist...17:56
coderusgist github can cool highlight for QML :)17:56
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coderusListView positionViewAtIndex works wrong if lsitview is placed to dialog because of dialog header actions height.18:33
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coderusfollow silica ui guidelines, they said, it's cool!18:38
schiggnhi all18:40
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schiggnquestion: does someone know how to use ifup/down scripts or dispatcher scripts or sth. simila on jolla? Need some different settings switching from wireless to mobile networking.18:41
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coderusexcellent! org.nemomobile.contacts PeopleModel showed a lot of deleted contacts! :D18:43
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schiggnI'm like google. I do not delete anything... :D18:44
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coderusi'd say it showed all my recently deleted contacts :D18:44
schiggnah. congrats :D18:45
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coderusno, i don't wanted to recover it :D18:46
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schiggnoh. okay. so you may start another great app called "let them really die - in your phone"? :)18:47
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coderussorry, i'm very busy with all my current projects currently :D18:47
coderuslet them really die: find . -name "*.db" -type f -delete18:49
coderus:D18:49
schiggnthat would delete other things too... would be like the "free space" app using rm -rf / ;)18:50
coderusrm -rf / #free space for something new (c)18:51
coderusif you really like rm -rf, you might want to try some apps by Schturman18:51
coderusthis guy really likes executing random rm -rf without checking destimation variables :D18:52
coderusif you want to delete everything you can try aliendalvik cleanup app18:52
coderusif you only want to cleanup your sdcard you can try aliendalvik sdcard mount app :D18:52
schiggnnever tried to write the "/" behind... :)18:53
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schiggnhm. currently I'm looking for a ifup/down or dispatcher thing for connman. But I didn't find how to handle this.18:54
schiggnwrong names or wrong code?18:54
schiggn"mount the rm -rf command to sd-card"18:55
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coderuswrong developer i'd say18:56
schiggnmh. well, he is testing on other devices. quite smart, isn't it? :)18:58
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coderusi know him for a very long time, his brain is not setup for getting required developer skills like logics :)19:03
schiggnah. mine too I think. But I'll keep on trying right now. At first I have to learn using qml/JS. Never used before but it seems to be useful.19:04
chem|st rm -rf / is only fun on a console with enough stuff built in^^19:05
coderuschem|st: what you mean?19:05
chem|stit is a perfectly valid command if you want to debootstrap afterwards...19:06
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schiggnsure. the devel-su rm -rf / - game. But its more interesting to randomly choose path instead of using "/" and watching results.19:06
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soukkaHi guys, I have a fast question: Is there a simple way to add operations to backwards flicking? In other words, is there like an "onSwipedBackwards:" signal or something that would allow emptying page models before backing up?19:07
coderussoukka: in your page you flicking back add onStatusChanged: { if (status == PageStatus.Inactive) { /* do your favorite cleanup */ } }19:09
schiggnstatus ( PageStatus.Deactivating|Activating|Active )19:09
soukkaperfect, thank you19:09
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soukkaexcept... I suppose status goes to inactive also moving forwards19:11
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coderusloool, you have Dialog, SilicaListView anchored fully, DialogHeader as listView.header. And when you scrolling long enough list your background inside header overlay is scrolling also :D19:12
coderusi found too much silica glitches today :D19:12
coderussoukka: sure, check pageStack.deptch also19:12
soukkawell yeah, quite logical19:12
coderusdepth of course19:13
soukkagood, I think that'll work19:13
soukkathanks19:13
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coderusf**ing skills ++ // ** = AQ19:16
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schiggnseems like there is no other way than writing a dbus-listener to define behavior on wlan/mobile networking. or I am missing sth?20:16
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sledgescoderus: cool, will keep in mind about QML gist hilighter:)22:39
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