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| SaberAltria | Hello | 06:28 |
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| SaberAltria | Hello Gexc? | 06:28 |
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| coderus | bluszcz: at least current log says build finished :) | 08:39 |
| coderus | congrats! | 08:39 |
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| kimmoli | https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:bluszcz/veggiesailor says succeeded | 09:00 |
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| kbroulik | what do I need to look out for when debugging my app from qtcreator? I launch the app and it immediately segfaults, but all I get is some disassembler output, no backtrace | 09:32 |
| coderus | kbroulik: you need to install also debug packages | 09:37 |
| kbroulik | coderus: on the simulator? | 09:38 |
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| SfietKontantinW | kbroulik: yes, install debug packages on the emulator | 09:51 |
| kbroulik | is there a wiki or something about that? I googled but didnt find anything. I logged into the console on the sailfish emulator but it doesnt have zypper etc etc | 09:52 |
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| leszek | kbroulik: zypper isn't installed by default. But you can install stuff with packagekit just like on a normal linux distro. So pkcon install <packagename> | 09:53 |
| leszek | or pkcon search name <packagename> to search for a package | 09:53 |
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| coderus | pkcon install-local package | 10:00 |
| coderus | pkcon install-local package.rpm | 10:00 |
| coderus | but i have modified mb2 script to deploy debug packages also | 10:00 |
| dr_gogeta86 | hi coderus | 10:05 |
| dr_gogeta86 | goodmorning | 10:05 |
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| gregtom6 | hy all | 10:14 |
| gregtom6 | which part of the OS (the MeeGo core) is responsible for power management? The DSME? | 10:14 |
| gregtom6 | if yes, what is the heartbeat service and watchdog service? | 10:14 |
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| spiiroin | gregtom6: heartbeat = align timer wakeups & periodic activity to maximize time spent in suspend | 10:17 |
| gregtom6 | spiiroin: I see | 10:17 |
| gregtom6 | spiiroin: and what about the watchdogs? | 10:17 |
| spiiroin | gregtom6: watchdog = system sanity feature: hw will reboot unless something (dsme) tells it sw side is still working more or less as expected | 10:18 |
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| gregtom6 | spiiroin: do you have a source for these informations? because I want to refer to them somehow | 10:18 |
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| coderus | dr_gogeta86: hello? | 10:30 |
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| coderus | gregtom6: https://github.com/nemomobile/dsme ? | 10:31 |
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| gregtom6 | coderus: I will check that | 10:38 |
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| gregtom6 | coderus: it's a very good reference, but you would hardly find that information in the source code. i think he picked that information from other place | 10:44 |
| gregtom6 | spiiroin: where is the origin of that information? | 10:44 |
| spiiroin | gregtom6: source code (I do most of dsme maintenance nowadays) | 10:45 |
| gregtom6 | oh, I see | 10:45 |
| gregtom6 | spiiroin, coderus: thanks a lot | 10:47 |
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| faenil | woah, quite a few limitations due to Facebook API 2.2 in the next update :O | 11:00 |
| ln- | limitations to what? | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: welcome to the wonderful wonders of cloud based services | 11:01 |
| faenil | Stskeeps: yeah... | 11:02 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps: isn't that bound to happen to gtalk as well since they're dropping xmpp? | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: haven't they been dropping it for several years? | 11:02 |
| faenil | so in a couple of months sailfish will have neither gchat nor facebookchat | 11:02 |
| faenil | Stskeeps: but it still works? | 11:02 |
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| Stskeeps | at some point they killed xmpp federation at least | 11:02 |
| faenil | yeah | 11:02 |
| tat | any idea where backups are located, i mean old ones, not home/.vault ? | 11:03 |
| tat | and if i do a factory reset does it wipe my sd card ? | 11:04 |
| j-doge | factory reset does not touch sd card | 11:04 |
| j-doge | if it ever does, please contact care and give them some heat :P | 11:04 |
| daitheflu | using a phone that "respects your privacy" with FB is rather funny :P | 11:05 |
| j-doge | the phone does, you can choose whether you add FB yourself :P | 11:05 |
| tat | and where are old backups located, can't find them in home/nemo | 11:05 |
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| daitheflu | j-doge: thank goodness :) | 11:06 |
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| daitheflu | it's just sad to see people wasting time developping things related to it rather than improving other part of the phone (well my use of "wasting" is not really objective) | 11:08 |
| tat | don't wine about it daitheflu, people are free to give up there privacy for what ever reason they like to, if you don't like FB make something better and get people using it | 11:11 |
| daitheflu | oh lord | 11:14 |
| lainwir3d__ | is that the name of your new FB alternative ? | 11:14 |
| daitheflu | is that supposed to be funny ? | 11:17 |
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| tat | anyone knows if the Power management stuff was fixed up in the latest SailfisOS update, since the last update in December, Power management was a nightmare for me, havn't seen anything reflecting that in the changelog | 11:20 |
| coderus | tat: what wrong with your power management? | 11:24 |
| coderus | check tjc to check if it known issue or not | 11:24 |
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| tat | well as soon as i drop under 60% it goes down fast, i have also crashes that i believe are connected to power loss, could also be my battery that is just fucked, but it started all just after the december update ( emidiatly ) | 11:26 |
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| daitheflu | tat: have you already tried to test your battery with the CSD hardware test tool ? | 11:28 |
| tat | daitheflu: no, i guess i will do that | 11:29 |
| Nicd- | tat: immediately* | 11:29 |
| alterego | tat: what kind of crashes? Apps / system hanging or reboots? | 11:29 |
| alterego | Almost certainly best if you post to tjc | 11:30 |
| tat | alterego: well usually something that would take a lot of power, like listening music over mobile data | 11:30 |
| tat | alterego: total crash, as if the processor was just pulled from Vcc | 11:31 |
| tat | so there for i suggested something with the battery, also the charge uncharge behavior is kind of weared, it could be a fucked battery, but i think it was definatly connected to the update in december, cause it started just like the day after | 11:32 |
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| coderus | with upower -d check capacity value | 11:33 |
| coderus | do full discharge-charge to recalibrate it | 11:34 |
| starkDbl07 | hello everyone | 11:34 |
| coderus | clean your battery and phone contacts with hard rubber and some acid/alchohol | 11:34 |
| starkDbl07 | 'QQmlImportDatabase::registerPluginTypes:1875 - Module 'Sailfish.Silica' does not contain a module identifier directive - it cannot be protected from...registrations.'. | 11:34 |
| starkDbl07 | can anyone help me with this error? | 11:34 |
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| alterego | starkDbl07: don't worry about it. That is just a warning | 11:35 |
| coderus | starkDbl07: this is not error, just friendly warning to jolla developers | 11:35 |
| coderus | starkDbl07: errors usually contains "error" word inside :) | 11:36 |
| starkDbl07 | ok. thanks a lot | 11:36 |
| alterego | tat: streaming music over data will drain batt. :p | 11:36 |
| tat | alterego: yes i know, but they overall behavior has definatly changed | 11:37 |
| tat | anyway i will check my battery first, and the post a report | 11:37 |
| alterego | Anyway, if you want batteries to last, don't let them go below 80% really. :) | 11:38 |
| tat | alterego: that is kind of impossible :) | 11:39 |
| alterego | Nothing is impossible. :p Anyway, that's just general advice for lipo batteries. | 11:40 |
| duke_leto | well, healthy batteries are more or less useless if I can use them only for 20 %, aren’t they? | 11:40 |
| alterego | Not really. My device usually stays above 80% during a whole day. | 11:41 |
| duke_leto | Okay, and in a pinch it still has the full capacity … I see the point, thanks :) | 11:41 |
| alterego | When I'm mobilr I try to keep it topped up whenever I can. I'm currently on 40% after no charge for two days. But that's very odd for me. | 11:42 |
| j-doge | people really use their devices differently | 11:43 |
| alterego | j-doge: indeed :) | 11:43 |
| duke_leto | so, how bad exactly (more or less) is it to let it run down to below 50 % ? | 11:43 |
| j-doge | I leave home at 100% every morning and come back home at around 40% max | 11:43 |
| j-doge | and I don't even really use my phone that much at work, I have plenty of testing devices lying around... | 11:44 |
| alterego | duke_leto: probably not that bad, I'm just pointing out that lipos last a lot longer if you keep them topped up. You should still get good behaviour for about two years even if you abuse them a bit. | 11:44 |
| duke_leto | okay :) | 11:44 |
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| tat | well nice, i just updated to the latest version and made a device reste, now on boot it habngs in a screen where it shows if the USB connector is plugged and battery status | 11:46 |
| alterego | j-doge: I have mobile data disabled for pretty much 90% of the time. Wifi doesn't seem to hit battery much. | 11:46 |
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| j-doge | alterego: well, that explains a lot of the difference | 11:46 |
| tat | ok got trough it | 11:47 |
| j-doge | I'm also kinda stuck with a couple of android apps, which really hurts my battery life | 11:47 |
| alterego | j-doge: And if I'm doing a lot of travelling, I'll turn wifi off and toggle mobile data as needed. | 11:47 |
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| alterego | urgh, yeah. I don't actualy use any android apps | 11:48 |
| j-doge | I'm too lazy to switch around manually :P | 11:49 |
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| alterego | j-doge: it helps when you have settings open all the time :p | 11:53 |
| j-doge | I don't like keeping apps running, it's aesthetically unpleasing | 11:54 |
| alterego | I would like a monitor that detects browser opening / closing and auto connects mobile data :) | 11:54 |
| j-doge | and I'd just forget to do the switching half of the time and curse apps and their devs | 11:54 |
| alterego | heh | 11:54 |
| j-doge | I'm not sure if Situations is advanced enough for that yet | 11:54 |
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| coderus | Fatal: '192.168.2.19' not found in devices.xml | 13:29 |
| coderus | but i have this device entry in file | 13:30 |
| olpe | Hi. How can I get to the Sailfish Developer Mailing List | 13:30 |
| kimmoli | olpe: https://lists.sailfishos.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel | 13:34 |
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| coderus | there is .config/SailfishBeta2/qtcreator/devices.xml and SailfishOS1502/vmshare/devices.xml | 13:36 |
| coderus | and both have 192.168.2.19 | 13:36 |
| coderus | so, wtf? | 13:36 |
| olpe | thanks kimmoli | 13:37 |
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| coderus | solved, my bad, had problems updating from previous sdk :) | 13:51 |
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| duke_leto | hey there :) could anyone give me some hints regarding these errors: | 14:09 |
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| duke_leto | file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Silica/Page.qml:134: TypeError: Cannot read property of null | 14:09 |
| duke_leto | It happens when navigating away from a Dialog | 14:09 |
| coderus | duke_leto: ignore unless you not working in Jolla | 14:10 |
| duke_leto | the one abount backIndicatorDown as well? | 14:10 |
| duke_leto | about* | 14:10 |
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| duke_leto | anyway, thanks so far :) | 14:13 |
| coderus | everything inside file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/ you ignore | 14:13 |
| duke_leto | alright! :D | 14:13 |
| coderus | just jolla developers are lazy to fix small bugs | 14:13 |
| duke_leto | I see | 14:13 |
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| Guest44232 | hi, when comes Jolla 2 phone? | 14:44 |
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| Nicd- | Guest44232: there is no info | 14:45 |
| leszek | Guest44232: when it is ready :) | 14:45 |
| Guest44232 | The most important I'D like to know if it will be dual sim or not. | 14:46 |
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| Nicd- | obviously there's no info about that either | 14:46 |
| Guest44232 | hi leszek. I saw a video on youtube in which you compared bb vs sailfish | 14:47 |
| Guest44232 | what do you miss from bb? | 14:47 |
| leszek | Guest44232: mainly the hub | 14:47 |
| Guest44232 | any other app? | 14:48 |
| leszek | its the center of all communication, notifications and so on | 14:48 |
| Guest44232 | ok thank you | 14:49 |
| leszek | perhaps the settings app or some features of it like setting a color for particular notifications | 14:49 |
| Guest44232 | i see | 14:49 |
| leszek | In terms of third party apps there is nothing much to miss. perhaps a native pushbullet client. | 14:50 |
| Guest44232 | is sailfish 100% compatible with nexus 5 or oneplus one? | 14:50 |
| leszek | ah one important thing that is still missing in a easy graphical configuration tool is a mimetype configuration on sailfish os | 14:50 |
| Nicd- | Guest44232: no | 14:50 |
| Nicd- | Guest44232: check https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 14:50 |
| leszek | the nexus or oneplus one stuff still lacks behind. They are alpha versions | 14:51 |
| Guest44232 | is there a list which android apps doesn't run on jolla? | 14:51 |
| leszek | Guest44232: I don't think so. At least I am not sure if there is | 14:52 |
| Guest44232 | wow | 14:52 |
| Guest44232 | good to hear | 14:52 |
| Guest44232 | thank you | 14:52 |
| leszek | Guest44232: but there is the other way around (or almost). There is a aptoid jolla store with entries that are compatible with jollas acl | 14:52 |
| leszek | surely there are even more but in general the rule would be by default everything should run that isn't depending hard on google play services | 14:53 |
| Guest44232 | good. I'm thinkin on jolla 2. I wait until summer, if it will be dual sim i will 100% buy one if not, i'll buy ubuntu or android (of course with custom rom) | 14:54 |
| Nicd- | and of course stuff that needs access to something dalvik doesn't give (bluetooth I think?) | 14:54 |
| Guest44232 | when i write two suggestion do you think any jolla designer read it? | 14:55 |
| Nicd- | maybe | 14:55 |
| Nicd- | you should put them on together.jolla.com | 14:56 |
| Guest44232 | PLEASE designers make Jolaa 2 with DUAL SIM and round those corners | 14:56 |
| leszek | Guest44232: I can guarantee you that there will be no jolla 2 in summer. Otherweise Jolla would have announced that way before | 14:56 |
| Guest44232 | I have a lumia 925 at the moment I have to saw my pockets every week | 14:56 |
| Nicd- | I like the corners. and no problems with my pockets yet | 14:57 |
| Guest44232 | saw=sew | 14:57 |
| TemeV | My jolla is starting to break out from my jeans pocket | 14:57 |
| Guest44232 | godd for you | 14:57 |
| j-doge | well, the lumia 925 does feel a bit like the corners have been sharpened ;) | 14:57 |
| TemeV | no hole yet, but getting close | 14:57 |
| leszek | yeah my jeans pocket also has a whole from one of the edges of the phone :P | 14:57 |
| Guest44232 | see? | 14:58 |
| j-doge | solution: sturdier pants :P | 14:58 |
| Guest44232 | :) | 14:58 |
| Guest44232 | pants are sturdy but the pockets aren't | 14:58 |
| Guest44232 | thank bye | 14:59 |
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| x86 | hey guys | 15:08 |
| x86 | is there a good way to parse an array of Json hashes when I receive them as strings? string:"[{"keyA":value1},{"keyA":"anotherValue"},{"keyB":"someValue"}]" to a usable datastructure? | 15:11 |
| Nicd- | in C++ or QML? | 15:12 |
| x86 | C++ | 15:12 |
| Nicd- | maybe http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qjsondocument.html will get you started | 15:13 |
| Nicd- | you can get the JSON as a QVariant from it | 15:13 |
| Nicd- | (either QVariantMap or QVariantList) | 15:14 |
| x86 | wait. How would I do that with QVariantList/-Map? What I did try was QJsonDocument::fromJson(str) and it didn't work out at all :/ | 15:15 |
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| SfietKontantinW | x86: what's the error ? | 15:19 |
| SfietKontantinW | is the JSON formatted correctly ? :) | 15:19 |
| x86 | SfietKontantinW: I don't get an error, however the jsonObject created from is is always empty. | 15:23 |
| x86 | SfietKontantinW: aaaaaaaand I realized I'm stupid. It already worked, I just didn't realize it. All I had to do was to call .array() on the created JsonDocument | 15:24 |
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| olpe | hey is it possible to install and run an email app on the emulator? reason: want to test mailto: links and stuff | 15:47 |
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| olpe | silence means no? Well then I just have to run it directly on my phone... | 15:53 |
| x86 | olpe: I guess it should be possible, however I have absolutly no idea how. Silence could also mean, that nobody who is present right now knows :) | 15:59 |
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| olpe | yeah | 16:03 |
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| olpe | didn't know its this easy run directly on the phone :) | 16:28 |
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| olpe | does someone know what kind of syntax jolla email client uses for newlines? I've tried </br> \n %0D%0A but haven't found how to make newlines | 17:00 |
| sandsmark | =? | 17:02 |
| sandsmark | \r\n? | 17:02 |
| sandsmark | olpe: where, btw? | 17:02 |
| olpe | I'll try that. Im trying to send report as email simply by using a mailto link with body attribute filled with stuff. sandsmark | 17:03 |
| sandsmark | oh, just invoking mail doesn't work? | 17:03 |
| olpe | how? I don't know how to do it | 17:04 |
| sandsmark | just invoking /usr/bin/mail or whatever | 17:05 |
| sandsmark | echo "text\n\more text" | mail foo@bar.com -s subject, or something like that | 17:06 |
| olpe | yeah but is it possible to send the contents there. And btw then i would force people to use jolla's email client (which sucks IMO) | 17:06 |
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| sandsmark | olpe: huh? | 17:12 |
| sandsmark | mail is MUA independent | 17:12 |
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| olpe | hmmm | 17:14 |
| ln- | i sure hope that apps can't send email that easily and secretly. | 17:14 |
| olpe | it should not send it directly just open up the email app with content prefilled | 17:15 |
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| coderus | olpe: mail client is only available for arm | 17:25 |
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| coderus | olpe: also i don't see mailto method is registered | 17:28 |
| coderus | just checked xdg-open mailto:some@email.com and it said no method available | 17:28 |
| olpe | hmm.. Mailto links works but I just can't add newlines in it. | 17:29 |
| olpe | I just open it with Qt.openUrlExternally | 17:29 |
| coderus | ah, it's probably because i removed Mail application :) | 17:29 |
| coderus | olpe: yeah, seems it parsing everything to text. | 17:31 |
| olpe | :( | 17:31 |
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| olpe | argh.. anybody have a solution or a hint to me? Should I try to write it to a file and then attach that file as attachment? | 17:56 |
| satmd | newlines? hmmm | 17:57 |
| coderus | olpe: com.jolla.email.ui /com/jolla/email/ui com.jolla.email.ui.compose "subject" "some@email.com" "" "" "body" works with newline | 17:57 |
| satmd | isn't that url-encoded? | 17:57 |
| satmd | oh. that. | 17:57 |
| olpe | coderus can you explain how to use that? I get command not found | 18:00 |
| coderus | this is dbus | 18:05 |
| coderus | check for QDBusInterface | 18:05 |
| olpe | okey | 18:06 |
| coderus | if you don't want harbour you can use org.nemomobile.dbus 2.0 module | 18:06 |
| olpe | i want to get it to harbour | 18:07 |
| coderus | then you can do in in c++ side only | 18:07 |
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| olpe | ok | 18:08 |
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| olpe | #include <QDBusInterface> no such file or directory | 18:18 |
| olpe | what should i us | 18:18 |
| olpe | use | 18:18 |
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| r0kk3rz | olpe: added the dbus modules to your mersdk? | 18:20 |
| r0kk3rz | also added qdbus to your pro file? | 18:21 |
| olpe | yes now just found out about it | 18:21 |
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| coderus | olpe: QT == dbus in pro file | 18:48 |
| coderus | += | 18:48 |
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| bluszcz | https://build.merproject.org/ is dead? | 19:11 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | bluszcz: lbt did an announcement on #mer: he is investigating the issue | 19:20 |
| bluszcz | Sfiet: thank you, I see now. #inode | 19:21 |
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| cvp_ | o/ | 19:25 |
| * lbt has to do a backup/restore of a disk :/ | 19:27 | |
| lbt | sloooow | 19:27 |
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| narchie1 | how much heap is allocated for android apps? | 19:46 |
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| lbt | bluszcz: obs is back | 20:28 |
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| coderus | obs is back! | 20:53 |
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| * kroovy says hello to everybody. | 20:53 | |
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| Nicola_G | Hi | 20:55 |
| mal- | is there a simple way to recognise swipes in different direction in qml? | 20:56 |
| kroovy | quit | 20:57 |
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| bluszcz | I am getting QML Image: SSL handshake failed when i try to set source for image with https | 21:13 |
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| coderus | Some news about Mitakuuluu development: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94761 | 21:28 |
| chem|st | coderus: about time that gets some telepathy plugin | 21:41 |
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| coderus | chem|st: why? | 21:42 |
| chem|st | oh I did not mean to get you to do it, just in general, someone should make a telepathy plugin so you can use it on your desktop as well as on your phone | 21:44 |
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| chem|st | and unified! | 21:44 |
| coderus | chem|st: ir requires to rewrite libwa to std c++ | 21:44 |
| coderus | chem|st: desktop have whatsapp-purple plugin :) | 21:44 |
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| bluszcz | lbt: coderus :) | 21:46 |
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| stephg | blegh evening | 22:15 |
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| ryukafalz | coderus: whatsapp-purple should be usable via telepathy-haze then, right? | 22:33 |
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| coderus | ryukafalz: no | 22:38 |
| coderus | haze have very simple and stupid libpurple support | 22:39 |
| ryukafalz | I mean, it would require additional effort to add an account connector | 22:39 |
| ryukafalz | heh | 22:39 |
| ryukafalz | interesting | 22:39 |
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| ryukafalz | coderus: Oh, since you're around (if you still are) - do you have plans to support non-whatsapp textsecure in the new version of mitakuuluu? | 22:50 |
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| coderus | ryukafalz: mitakuuluu is only whatsapp client | 22:52 |
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| ryukafalz | hm, okay | 22:52 |
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| coderus | i don't want to make any multiprotocol clients | 22:53 |
| coderus | making textsecure client is possible in future | 22:53 |
| ryukafalz | makes sense, from a user interface perspective | 22:54 |
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| sandsmark | so, has anyone tried reversing the facebook messenger protocol? | 23:10 |
| sandsmark | it uses the MQTT protocol, which wireshark has support for | 23:10 |
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