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| SfietKonstantinW | coderus: uploading | 07:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | sec | 07:59 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | done | 08:00 |
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| greenit | hi, is it possible to open a pdf on my jolla with a native app? if yes, whats the name of the app? | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | documents | 09:16 |
| greenit | oh, wrong channel, sry... | 09:16 |
| greenit | thx | 09:16 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | small question to sailors | 09:22 |
| SfietKonstantinW | what would be the safest way to store "credentials" (access token actually, that behave like passwords) on SFOS ? | 09:23 |
| SfietKonstantinW | It is rather usafe to store them in plain, as you can have a malicious app that scan .local / .config and harvest all these nice tokens | 09:23 |
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| SaberAltria | coderus | 09:55 |
| SaberAltria | I updated to 1.1.2.24 and screentapshot not works | 09:56 |
| SaberAltria | Once I clicked the phone just restarts | 09:56 |
| nib_ | SfietKonstantinW: I dont wanna be obvious but you can encrypt all user secrets by password or private key:) | 09:56 |
| coderus | SaberAltria: it is bug in 1.1.4.24, and jolla ignores it, because it "unofficial relase" and they "don't care about bugreports in unofficial releases" but i can bet all on this bug will not be fixed in official release also. | 09:58 |
| coderus | SfietKonstantinW: or just store in sqlite database with password :) | 09:59 |
| SaberAltria | oh this is bug yup... | 09:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | nib_: you cannot do that easily with opensourced app, as private key would be available | 10:00 |
| SaberAltria | I love you app :( | 10:00 |
| coderus | will start complaining after official release when i get enough feedback this is not a problem in my app :D | 10:00 |
| coderus | SfietKonstantinW: you do not commit your password, thats it :) | 10:01 |
| SaberAltria | coderus are you full-time developer for Jolla ? | 10:01 |
| nib_ | SfietKonstantinW: waat?:) | 10:01 |
| coderus | SaberAltria: no, i'm not working at Jolla in any way | 10:01 |
| SfietKonstantinW | nib_: you have the token, you encrypt it with a key in your app. However, as your app is opensourced, the key is somewhere in the source code | 10:02 |
| Nicd- | SaberAltria: how do you get access to that version? | 10:03 |
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| Nicd- | of sailfish | 10:03 |
| nib_ | SfietKonstantinW: or provide all your secret keys at build time | 10:03 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | nib_: this leads to the second issue: I'm building on OBS | 10:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I wanted to do some random generation on obs or something like that | 10:04 |
| nib_ | SfietKonstantinW: yep, weird:/ | 10:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | not sure if it worth the pain | 10:04 |
| nib_ | SfietKonstantinW: you can generate private key with password in runtime for given user, than each secret access will require a password prompt from user | 10:08 |
| SaberAltria | Nicd-: terminal | 10:09 |
| SaberAltria | ssh ue 1.1.2.24 | 10:09 |
| SaberAltria | ssh ur | 10:09 |
| SaberAltria | version --dup | 10:09 |
| SaberAltria | no ssh | 10:09 |
| SaberAltria | ssu | 10:09 |
| SaberAltria | you better backup first | 10:10 |
| SaberAltria | As coderus said, this is a unofficial release | 10:10 |
| coderus | nib_: +1 to user password | 10:11 |
| nib_ | SfietKonstantinW: you can even reinvent middleware service with dbus api (like it is discussed in freedesktop for kde`s kwallet and gnome analogue, hope that it is done) | 10:12 |
| coderus | or JUST generate password at first start | 10:12 |
| nib_ | :) | 10:12 |
| coderus | no need to generate it to sources | 10:12 |
| Nicd- | SaberAltria: ah | 10:13 |
| coderus | also in past i used 123:143 symbols from executable as password for storage | 10:13 |
| nib_ | coderus: lol | 10:13 |
| coderus | just open myself (executable) in readonly mode and read :) | 10:14 |
| coderus | just find place which is changed on every build and use it :D | 10:14 |
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| nib_ | coderus: but this is not a case for over-open sourced apps;) | 10:16 |
| Dicee | have people allready used that whatsapp client? ... how big chance there is get bann to whatsapp if i use it? :D | 10:17 |
| lpotter | if you want a stable system, do not use testing releases | 10:17 |
| nib_ | Ill better link resouces file by myself and will use it as a blob | 10:17 |
| lpotter | I've had to reflash from time to time... | 10:18 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Multirom for sbj is p0rn? | 10:20 |
| coderus | nib_: it is | 10:20 |
| coderus | if you want to hack it you will do it | 10:21 |
| coderus | Dicee: no idea withoud looking to sources. | 10:21 |
| coderus | i still making my own client which is more likely not to be banned | 10:21 |
| Dicee | ok | 10:22 |
| Dicee | guess need to start practice to make client's my self :D | 10:22 |
| coderus | well, client is not a problem | 10:24 |
| Nicd- | coderus: why is it more likely not to be banned? | 10:25 |
| coderus | you need to understaand how protocol is working and have tools to mitm official whatsapp request to make changes when it updated :) | 10:25 |
| coderus | Nicd-: because i making it working exactly like android whatsapp | 10:25 |
| coderus | protocol, i mean. it will not send your whole phone details to whatsapp servers :S | 10:26 |
| Nicd- | apparently the other app impersonates a real whatsapp client too | 10:27 |
| coderus | Nicd-: I DON'T TRUST IT WITHOUT SEEING IT SOURCES :) | 10:27 |
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| coderus | also my library already supports textsecure encryption, and we're working on hacking web whatsapp protocol also :D | 10:28 |
| dr_gogeta86 | coderus: you are the one , i'm missing alot mita. But why not create also another protocoll aside to whatsapp? so you can port mita also outside jolla garden | 10:31 |
| coderus | mitakuuluu is only jolla whatsapp client | 10:31 |
| coderus | because it mitakuuluu | 10:31 |
| dr_gogeta86 | is a matter of ux | 10:32 |
| dr_gogeta86 | original client sucks everywhere | 10:33 |
| dr_gogeta86 | apart wp | 10:33 |
| coderus | mitakuuluu internals is made for whatsapp protocol | 10:34 |
| coderus | there is no easy way to adapt it to other protocol | 10:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | create a mock server at this point | 10:37 |
| TemeV | Why would mitakuuluu have to be some multi protocol communicator, the phone has telepathy after all... | 10:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | messaging sucks | 10:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | :-p | 10:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | every one saw mita in the past fallen in love even for ios aficionados | 10:38 |
| coderus | TemeV: mitakuuluu is only whatsapp client | 10:39 |
| * coderus tired to repeat it over and over again :D | 10:39 | |
| TemeV | coderus: exactly | 10:39 |
| TemeV | I was just saying it should stay as such | 10:39 |
| TemeV | Would be stupid to make "competitor" for telepathy | 10:40 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 10:53 |
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| SaberAltria | What is the current version of Qt in Sailfish Os? | 12:08 |
| SaberAltria | 5.2 ? | 12:08 |
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| VDVsx | SaberAltria, yes | 12:09 |
| SaberAltria | OMG... | 12:11 |
| SaberAltria | the qtquick 2.0 multipointtoucharea doesn't include the mouseEnabled. | 12:12 |
| Nicd- | mostly 5.2 | 12:12 |
| SaberAltria | that property is quite important to carry out a nested multipointtoucharea in flickable... | 12:12 |
| SaberAltria | What can I do then :( | 12:12 |
| SaberAltria | the qt 5.2 seems not support that new property | 12:13 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | SaberAltria: what are you trying to do ? | 12:21 |
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| SaberAltria | Hmmm | 12:23 |
| SaberAltria | trying to tweak the maliit input method | 12:23 |
| SaberAltria | with a flickable contains a lot of emojis and symbols | 12:24 |
| SaberAltria | so in this case, the MultiPointTouchArea will cover the Flickable | 12:25 |
| SaberAltria | So I need a some properties like propagateComposedEvents: true or preventStealing: true in MouseArea | 12:25 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | SaberAltria: where is the multipointtoucharea ? | 12:26 |
| SaberAltria | but the MultiPointTouchArea is different from MouseArea | 12:26 |
| SfietKonstantinW | is it used in maliit ? | 12:26 |
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| SaberAltria | Yes | 12:26 |
| SfietKonstantinW | can't you use some z ? | 12:26 |
| SaberAltria | It is in the keyboardbase.qml | 12:26 |
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| SaberAltria | z yup this is the thing I tried | 12:26 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so basically the events are propagated to the multipointtoucharea when you use the flickable ? | 12:26 |
| SaberAltria | Yes Yes | 12:27 |
| SaberAltria | I want to do that | 12:27 |
| SaberAltria | if you set higher z in multi...area then the flickable doesn't work | 12:27 |
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| SaberAltria | If you set higher z in flickable the multi..area doesn't work... | 12:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | can't you just disable the flickable when you are done with it ? | 12:28 |
| SaberAltria | hmmm | 12:29 |
| SaberAltria | that is one direction but I have no idea what signal and situation to disable the flickable | 12:30 |
| SaberAltria | set interative to false can disable flickable, right? | 12:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yes | 12:31 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | wondering, what's the use case | 12:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you have a flickable overlapping the multitoucharea | 12:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | the flickable displays emojs ? | 12:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you click on the emoj, this hides the flickable and disables it | 12:31 |
| SaberAltria | Yes | 12:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (enabled: false) | 12:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (even better: visible: false) | 12:31 |
| SaberAltria | the flickable is gridview | 12:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ok | 12:32 |
| SfietKonstantinW | this should work ? | 12:32 |
| SfietKonstantinW | maybe try visible: false etc | 12:32 |
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| coderus | SfietKonstantinW: Qt5.2 using QtQuick 2.1 | 12:32 |
| SfietKonstantinW | coderus: I know :) | 12:33 |
| coderus | 13~have to mention SaberAltria | 12:34 |
| coderus | :) | 12:34 |
| SfietKonstantinW | coderus: :) | 12:34 |
| coderus | i never checking tab autocompletion in irssi :D | 12:34 |
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| SaberAltria | hmmmmm | 12:35 |
| SaberAltria | how to restart phone in terminal? | 12:36 |
| SaberAltria | What is the command | 12:36 |
| SaberAltria | My phone always get no touch response in apps | 12:37 |
| SaberAltria | any apps lose the touch point but swipe apps works = = | 12:37 |
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| coderus | SaberAltria: dsmetool -b | 12:39 |
| SaberAltria | Thx :D | 12:40 |
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| SaberAltria | SfietKonstantinW I try your method first | 12:44 |
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| nh1402 | is Jolla planning to add paid app options in their Jolla Harbour?, if so what timeframe | 17:22 |
| coderus | planning of course, but don't think it have any timeframe | 17:22 |
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| nh1402 | Because I'm working on a language learning app (mainly for children) with some friends and are looking at selling it on relevant app stores. | 17:37 |
| nh1402 | probably cost more on iOS due to the high annual cost of releasing it to the Apple App store. | 17:37 |
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| r0kk3rz | nh1402: you can always do in-app purchasing of some sort | 17:42 |
| nh1402 | we're likely going to have that too. The app is a lot of work. Haven't decided 100% on if its a paid app with in app purchases or a free app with in app purchases, possibly the latter | 17:43 |
| nh1402 | is in-app purchasing supported in Sailfish? | 17:45 |
| r0kk3rz | theres no standard API as such | 17:46 |
| r0kk3rz | you'd have to handle it with some kind of third-party API | 17:47 |
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| nh1402 | and that's alright with the Jolla ToS | 17:55 |
| hasdf | coderus, just saw your libaxolotl-port. do you plan to port textsecure? | 17:56 |
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| taixzo_ | Does anyone have a build of pocketphinx for sailfishos? I'm having trouble building it myself. | 18:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | hasdf: its also used in whatsapp, which is likely coderus' intended use | 18:39 |
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| hasdf | well whatsapp isn't so far from textsecure :) | 18:40 |
| hasdf | using textsecure-encryption on android if I remember correctly | 18:40 |
| entil | them using the axolotl protocol in a completely closed environment is not the same | 18:40 |
| entil | and fwiw I have some plans on the subject, but surprisingly haven't had time to touch anything since I got the server running locally | 18:41 |
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| r0kk3rz | taixzo: whats the trouble? | 18:45 |
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| r0kk3rz | seems sphinxbase requres gcc-fortran... | 19:12 |
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| coderus | hasdf: yes, after finishing whatsapp stuff | 19:33 |
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| coderus | can sailfish CameraExtensions be opensourced please? :) | 19:53 |
| Nokius | coderus: Hi is it possible to get a client for SFOS? (https://github.com/SMSSecure/SMSSecure) aren't you working on a "port" for the crypto ? no hassel to do it just a general question | 20:00 |
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| coderus | sms? are you kidding me? :D | 20:19 |
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| coderus | well, it's trivial to use textsecure with any protocol if you have axolotl library | 20:24 |
| coderus | well, it's trivial to add textsecure encryption to any protocol if you have working axolotl library. bottle neck is exchanging prekeys. you need to request prekey from recepient before sending message to him. and same for other direction. | 20:28 |
| coderus | hm, what is first message was :D | 20:28 |
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| hasdf | coderus, do you have a timeframe for whatsapp stuff? (This month, end of the year, etc) | 23:08 |
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