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| Pete8 | Back in business. Yesterday got that UI working from UI -> C++ code (to write file). Today my challenge is to read FIFO buffer in C++ code and update QML element accordingly in UI side. I've been trying like describe here (http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-cppintegration-interactqmlfromcpp.html) - but this does not fit for Sailfish and my understanding. Any help ? | 06:24 |
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| jaacoppi | Pete8: show us some example code of what you have done so far | 06:42 |
| Pete8 | HOld on | 06:44 |
| Pete8 | I have this on QML page: | 06:45 |
| Pete8 | Label | 06:45 |
| Pete8 | { | 06:45 |
| Pete8 | id: engine | 06:45 |
| Pete8 | objectName: "statusmessage" | 06:45 |
| Pete8 | x: Theme.paddingLarge | 06:45 |
| Pete8 | text: "[waiting]" | 06:45 |
| Pete8 | color: Theme.primaryColor | 06:45 |
| Pete8 | font.pixelSize: Theme.fontSizeSmall | 06:45 |
| Pete8 | anchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter | 06:45 |
| Pete8 | } | 06:45 |
| jaacoppi | next time, please post to pastebin and give us the url. It makes everything easier to read | 06:45 |
| Pete8 | Will do, hold on :) | 06:45 |
| Pete8 | http://pastebin.com/qHcJY35V | 06:46 |
| Pete8 | This is label & class function, which I hope to be able to update text portion of label. | 06:47 |
| Pete8 | I've been trying to understand this: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-cppintegration-interactqmlfromcpp.html related to Sailfish. | 06:47 |
| Pete8 | But turning QQmlEngine etc to sailfish is pain, or maybe I just cannot get it. | 06:48 |
| jaacoppi | I don't know how it _should_ be done, but here's how I've done it: https://github.com/jaacoppi/comicsailor | 06:50 |
| jaacoppi | check out src/common.h for the class. Then checkout src/harbour-comicsailor.cpp for qmlRegisterType | 06:51 |
| Pete8 | Ok, I will check it! Thanks. Probably I'll be back soon ;) | 06:52 |
| jaacoppi | finally, check out qml/pages/ComicView.qml for how to use it | 06:52 |
| Pete8 | I think I clone whole thing, to get a picture. | 06:52 |
| jaacoppi | Come back in a few minutes to see all the other poeple on this channel tell you and me how it actually should be done | 06:52 |
| jaacoppi | there's probably a better way | 06:53 |
| Pete8 | ;) Ok, let's see. | 06:53 |
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| Pete8 | Frustrating, I cannot understand a bit from your code :) | 06:58 |
| Pete8 | This QT & QML is bit too abstracted to traditional embedded programmer :) | 06:59 |
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| kimmoli | .) | 07:08 |
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| kimmoli | Pete8 the engine is part of view, but that page you linked, seems to create components from c++, so it has everything it needs | 07:14 |
| kimmoli | view as in main.cpp | 07:14 |
| Pete8 | yeah, I just managed to add function to class and it passes value to QML view (like version in your template). | 07:15 |
| Pete8 | So progress, even I cannot understand anything. | 07:15 |
| Pete8 | I genuinely wonder who and why this is so complicated :) | 07:16 |
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| jaacoppi | Pete8: there's also https://saildev.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/integrating-c-and-qml/ | 07:33 |
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| Pete8 | I've seen this. I check it out again, thanks. | 07:34 |
| jaacoppi | I feel it's complicated too. 16-bit assembly is simple | 07:37 |
| Pete8 | Tell me about it. But actually I managed to push from yesterday working application to control our program. So, bit progress. | 07:39 |
| Pete8 | I wish that Jolla could produce a bit more examples and documentation to actual development support. | 07:40 |
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| Pete8 | But I bet their resources are tight. | 07:40 |
| jaacoppi | slowly, slowly | 07:41 |
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| Nicd- | coderus: UTF-8 is not 2 bytes | 08:28 |
| Nicd- | it's 1 to 4 bytes | 08:28 |
| Nicd- | it's variable length | 08:28 |
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| Nicd- | UTF-16 is 2 or 4 bytes | 08:29 |
| Nicd- | UTF-32 is always 4 bytes | 08:29 |
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| Pete8 | What would be best way to monitor FIFO file contents for changes? QSocketNotifier ? | 10:25 |
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| coderus | Pete8: yes, good | 11:08 |
| r0kk3rz | looks like it will do the job | 11:09 |
| Pete8 | Ok. Where you think it should be located, to run continuously? | 11:09 |
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| coderus | Pete8: anywhere as pointer you can control | 11:09 |
| Pete8 | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6878507/using-qsocketnotifier-to-select-on-a-char-device | 11:09 |
| Pete8 | That's what I found of it. | 11:10 |
| r0kk3rz | define 'should be located' | 11:10 |
| Pete8 | I have main.cpp and myclass.cpp - which one? | 11:10 |
| coderus | about jolla documentation: jolla using qt 5.2, so jolla own docs is about silica UI, all other stuff you SHOULD learn from qt.io website | 11:10 |
| Pete8 | Ok. I just having hard time to understand for example this part: | 11:11 |
| Pete8 | ConsoleReader::ConsoleReader(QObject *parent) : | 11:11 |
| Pete8 | QObject(parent), | 11:11 |
| Pete8 | notifier(STDIN_FILENO, QSocketNotifier::Read) | 11:11 |
| Pete8 | { | 11:11 |
| Pete8 | (from that previous link, last example). | 11:11 |
| r0kk3rz | Pete8: thats up to you really, you're designing the app | 11:11 |
| Pete8 | what heck happens here, line 3 for example? | 11:11 |
| coderus | Pete8: it's initialization of notifier in class constructor | 11:11 |
| coderus | same with notifier = new QSocketNotifier(STDIN_FILENO, QSocketNotifier::Read) | 11:11 |
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| Pete8 | I mean by locating; if I put it in my class function which reads that FIFO buffer, does notifier get killed after function is done? | 11:12 |
| r0kk3rz | you'd need to keep it parented if you dont want it to get killed | 11:14 |
| r0kk3rz | thats true no matter where you put it | 11:14 |
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| coderus | Pete8: in this case it will be kille when app closed | 11:14 |
| coderus | learn about QObject stuff | 11:14 |
| coderus | if you create notifier = new QSocketNotifier(STDIN_FILENO, QSocketNotifier::Read, this) then it will be destroyed when *this* will be deestroying | 11:15 |
| Pete8 | whole QT is tough one. I came from world where main() runs forever loop of while() and everything happens inside of that :) | 11:15 |
| Yaniel | that's more or less what Qt does too | 11:15 |
| r0kk3rz | well, this isnt so much qt, but more about application design | 11:16 |
| Pete8 | Ok, what happens if I call that function repeatedly ? | 11:16 |
| Pete8 | (where that notifier is setup) ? | 11:16 |
| r0kk3rz | but i suppose you are used to working procedurally rather than objecty | 11:17 |
| Pete8 | you nailed it. | 11:17 |
| r0kk3rz | in which case its probably a good idea to read some Object Oriented Programming theory | 11:18 |
| Pete8 | True. But I've managed already to get version what I 've wanted up and running. Now I just need to get that file watcher done ;) | 11:19 |
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| r0kk3rz | in which case, create it in the main.cpp and it shouldnt get killed | 11:25 |
| r0kk3rz | then connect your file watcher signal with your handler socket | 11:25 |
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| Pete8 | Ok, thanks. I will try this out. | 11:29 |
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| r0kk3rz | but if you want to get into application development, then i strongly suggest brushing up on your theory :P | 11:31 |
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| Pete8 | Yeah, I learn by driving. | 11:35 |
| r0kk3rz | except you arent driving, you're riding a motorbike and trying to treat it like a car :P | 11:36 |
| r0kk3rz | you can learn a lot by doing for sure, but you *need* the core concepts, without those...... yeah | 11:37 |
| Pete8 | ;) | 11:37 |
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| Pete8 | You guys were already helpful, so I bet this is going to be great. | 11:37 |
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| coderus | Pete8: read http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qobject.html starting from Detailed Description | 11:42 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah but most of us help others to help them learn and become better developers | 11:42 |
| r0kk3rz | coding via proxy is just a very very inefficient way of writing a program | 11:42 |
| Pete8 | True. I check that link. I am already pleased of what I am able to do with Jolla ! | 11:44 |
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| coderus | you can do everything, you just need OOP every time you coding anything :) | 11:46 |
| Pete8 | Yeah. Does SDK/QT/Sailfish support external program launch from UI code? We have binary which needs to be run as daemon, and I was wondering about launching it from UI.... | 11:49 |
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| r0kk3rz | wrap up your daemon in a systemd unit | 11:54 |
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| r0kk3rz | but yeah, you can start/stop daemons from the UI | 11:54 |
| r0kk3rz | but you can just let systemd handle it | 11:55 |
| Pete8 | Ok, that's what I believe I try. There is no need to run that all the time, so start/stop sequence would do. | 11:55 |
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| r0kk3rz | also a good idea to look into nemo keepalive, otherwise you'll see some strange things when the phone goes into sleep mode | 11:56 |
| Pete8 | That's what I've noticed :) | 11:56 |
| entil | apparently when you have a systemd unit you use dbus to command it | 11:57 |
| entil | https://github.com/custodian/harbour-systemmonitor/blob/master/app/systemmonitor.cpp#L102 pulled this off of google | 11:57 |
| Pete8 | Ok, interesting- | 11:57 |
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| mal- | any idea why qsTrId does not work eventhough I have | 12:08 |
| mal- | //% "Loading" | 12:08 |
| mal- | text: qsTrId("my-ph-loading") | 12:08 |
| mal- | it shows that id when no translation is available but default .ts has <source>Loading</source> | 12:09 |
| coderus | mal-: you should install two translators | 12:10 |
| mal- | ? | 12:11 |
| mal- | coderus: what do you mean? | 12:12 |
| coderus | for selected and for default translation. but i think you should not deploy unfinished translations. | 12:12 |
| mal- | ok | 12:12 |
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| mal- | I still don't understand why it shows the value from source in other id but not in that | 12:35 |
| mal- | maybe the other comes from somewhere else | 12:35 |
| mal- | I just wanted to prevent translating the same text many times but since I don't seem to be able to set a default value for that so I'll have go back to translating it for every file | 12:37 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hi :) | 13:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | simple curiosity | 13:14 |
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| kimmoli | qsocketnotifier sucks, imho. use QFileSystemWatcher, it is easier and seems to work much better that QSocketNotifier (or i just don't know how to use it, it just triggers continuously) | 13:34 |
| kimmoli | Pete8: ^ | 13:34 |
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| Pete8 | kimmoli: I have your template, with s2.cpp (main) and myclass.cpp as my own class definition. I have it all together now, except the fact that I need to observe my (tmp/fifo) input from daemon. | 13:35 |
| Pete8 | You think I should put QFileSystemWatcher in place for monitorin that one? | 13:36 |
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| Pete8 | Do you happen to have any example at hand ? | 13:36 |
| kimmoli | just-a-moment | 13:36 |
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| Pete8 | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10044853/how-to-qfilesystemwatcher | 13:38 |
| Pete8 | found that one | 13:38 |
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| kimmoli | Pete8: https://gist.github.com/kimmoli/762c8d4fb67bc00bd6bd | 13:45 |
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| Pete8 | Awesome! | 13:46 |
| Pete8 | Thanks, let me try with this! Big thanks. | 13:46 |
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| kimmoli | but, yes, i would also do communication between daemon <-> app via dbus instead of /tmp/file | 13:53 |
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| Pete8 | I think that would be next step, but our code is built around /tmp/fifo communication in and out, so it's easier for us to test this functionality with this method. | 13:54 |
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| Pete8 | What's best method to call that Myclass::start on main CPP start? | 13:55 |
| kimmoli | where from that code is from, it was started by button | 13:56 |
| Nicd- | int main() { MyClass::start(); } :P | 13:56 |
| kimmoli | but you can call it from start of myclass | 13:56 |
| Pete8 | Myclass.start(); | 13:56 |
| Pete8 | Yeah, almost right. | 13:56 |
| Pete8 | Thanks | 13:56 |
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| Pete8 | cannot call member function void Myclass:start() without object? | 13:58 |
| kimmoli | call it from myclass-start | 13:58 |
| Pete8 | ok | 13:58 |
| kimmoli | Just pasted a lot, see here http://pastebin.com/RuYdxz1R | 13:58 |
| Pete8 | ok, lets see :) | 13:59 |
| Pete8 | it compiles, nice! I need to copy that code to Jolla for test run :) | 14:00 |
| Pete8 | I just faced another thing. I have two Jolla devices, one which is working nicely with SDK - but another one I cannot do deployment (rsync gives permission problem). | 14:01 |
| Pete8 | I did SCP to unit, installed RPM manually - buy maybe SDK is not liking more than one device. And yes, I have created two devices and they test connection just fine in SDK... | 14:01 |
| Pete8 | Strange. I can live with this. | 14:01 |
| Pete8 | Wow: Myclass::tmpFileProcess:43 - file "/tmp/aefifo_out" changed | 14:03 |
| Pete8 | I believe it worked. | 14:03 |
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| Pete8 | kimmoli: Thanks for all help. Now I am monitorin file and getting results from there just fine. I have only one question left. Now I invoke myclass value reading from QML file side, however it could be better to make this to happen from C++ code (eg when values are read, they should be pushed to QML) ? Any thoughts? | 16:10 |
| kimmoli | that is what the onChanged signal does | 16:11 |
| Pete8 | ah, ok. Interesting. It's global for whole page? | 16:12 |
| Pete8 | got it, thanks! | 16:14 |
| kimmoli | emh, it is automatic wihtin qml stuff, but in the MyClass {} you have also possibility to get e.g. onFileContentsChanged: | 16:14 |
| kimmoli | so the fileContentsChanged will become onFileContentsChanged automatically | 16:14 |
| kimmoli | and if you e.g. Label has text: myclass.fileContents it will also update automatically, when you say emit fileContentsChanged(); on c++ side | 16:15 |
| kimmoli | other way is to make a Label { id: mylabel } and in MyClass { id: myclass onFileContentsChanged: mylabel.text = myclass.fileContents } | 16:16 |
| Pete8 | hmm | 16:17 |
| Acce | Pete8: did you try reading something such as qmlbook.org yet? to get better overview on how qml itself works | 16:18 |
| Pete8 | I have void Myclass::tmpFileProcess(QString name) which processses file and outputs to debug just fine what I'd like to have. Then i have another QString Myclass::readengine() which returns engine status text. But I am lacking knowledge, how do I pass strings from processing function to delivery function. | 16:18 |
| Pete8 | Acce: I need to study that next, you're right. This one has to be ready before the book. | 16:19 |
| Acce | also, read about Qt signals and slots system | 16:19 |
| Acce | if you're unfamiliar with it | 16:19 |
| Acce | because qml also heavily depends on this system, although implicitly | 16:20 |
| kimmoli | so you call readengine() from qml, and it returns the string you want there? | 16:20 |
| Pete8 | kimmoli: yes. | 16:20 |
| kimmoli | so you make a private QString which you update from processing function, and readengine returns it ? | 16:21 |
| Pete8 | And tmpFileProcess gets the data when file is changed. | 16:21 |
| Pete8 | I assume that's the thing, class private QString keeps value between different functions? | 16:21 |
| Pete8 | If so, I am saved! | 16:21 |
| kimmoli | yes, that is then basic c++ ?? | 16:21 |
| kimmoli | so readengine is PROPERTY 0 | 16:22 |
| kimmoli | ? | 16:22 |
| Pete8 | Got it. | 16:22 |
| Pete8 | Let me fix this ;) Thanks!! | 16:22 |
| kimmoli | or engine, and readEngine is its READ function? | 16:22 |
| kimmoli | ok. | 16:22 |
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| scottc | is it just me, or are the charging and discharging icons on the jolla really similar..? | 16:26 |
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| r0kk3rz | yep | 16:35 |
| r0kk3rz | the notification led helps though | 16:36 |
| Pete8 | kimmoli: & others: Got it working. Now I have complete version of this baby done. Thanks for your patience, maybe I spot those books about the subject next.. | 16:39 |
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| kimmoli | Pete8: np, imho to get something working kickstarts to study more, and "internet-searches-per-codeline" factor reduces by time :) | 16:49 |
| Pete8 | You've been there ;) | 16:49 |
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| toerb | can i define the english translation file of my app as standard for all languages which don't have a translation? | 17:45 |
| toerb | atm i have in the qml source qsTr("PasswordsText") and in the translation files some lines of text what should be at this place | 17:46 |
| toerb | this works for all languages i have a translation | 17:47 |
| toerb | no i want the default to be english. users should see the english text about passwords and not "PasswordsText" | 17:47 |
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| pvuorela | toerb: just use english text instead of that PasswordsText identifier. | 17:51 |
| coderus | toerb: in qsTr you should use actual untranslated (engineering english) text, fot qsTrId you should use some unique identifiers | 17:54 |
| coderus | for* | 17:54 |
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| toerb | coderus: what if the replace for PasswordsText is very long? | 19:18 |
| coderus | toerb: replace? | 19:20 |
| toerb | the english translations | 19:21 |
| coderus | if you using qsTr you should use normal english text, not any identifiers. | 19:21 |
| coderus | translations are replacing english with selected language texts | 19:21 |
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| coderus | you generating ts file, uploading it to translators/transifex and users who want to translate see original text they need to translate properly, not stupid identifiers | 19:23 |
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| coderus | if you want to use identifiers then use qsTrId and write comments to each identifier with original english translation and description about usage this line in application | 19:23 |
| tortoisedoc | yaps | 19:23 |
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| tortoisedoc | is there a way to specify post-build install scripts in the yaml file? | 19:46 |
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| tortoisedoc | ....i guess the question should rather be WHY is there NO way to get post build install scripts defined in yaml files ?:D | 19:57 |
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| r0kk3rz | the other question is why you're still using the yaml file | 20:02 |
| coderus | i don't understand why anybody need yaml if there is spec | 20:02 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah.. the yaml generates the spec, which you can just do yourself | 20:03 |
| coderus | who generates yaml and why?? | 20:04 |
| r0kk3rz | tortoisedoc: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Spectacle | 20:07 |
| r0kk3rz | looks like it will do it | 20:08 |
| tortoisedoc | crappy qt creator needs yaml? | 20:08 |
| * tortoisedoc confused | 20:08 | |
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| r0kk3rz | it almost seems like a mer thing... | 20:10 |
| r0kk3rz | not much comes up on googles other than that merproject link | 20:10 |
| tortoisedoc | i think fedora uses yaml | 20:10 |
| tortoisedoc | for some whatever reason only satan might now | 20:10 |
| tortoisedoc | *know | 20:11 |
| r0kk3rz | either way, you can just do away with the whole yaml thing and just write whatever you want in the spec | 20:11 |
| r0kk3rz | and the job will get done | 20:11 |
| r0kk3rz | might be a case of NIH | 20:11 |
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| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz : might be a case of boredness | 20:13 |
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| tortoisedoc | has anyone of you guys ever worked with mime types | 20:14 |
| tortoisedoc | like installing new ones, registering etc | 20:14 |
| r0kk3rz | ive been meaning to figure that out | 20:15 |
| tortoisedoc | id have a specific question | 20:16 |
| tortoisedoc | like how comes my sub-class mime types are not recognized by xdg-mime | 20:16 |
| r0kk3rz | then id suggest reading up on xdg-mime and xdg-open | 20:17 |
| r0kk3rz | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Default_applications#Using_MIME_types_and_desktop_entries | 20:19 |
| r0kk3rz | this looks useful | 20:19 |
| r0kk3rz | scroll down to the bit about 'custom file associations" | 20:19 |
| coderus | only registered mime types by hands in gui :) | 20:20 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm perhaps I need to adjust my subtype's priority... | 20:44 |
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| scottc | cross-posting from #jolla | 20:46 |
| scottc | crack in my jolla's screen... :( | 20:46 |
| scottc | lcd is fine, touch still works, just the outer glass :([A | 20:46 |
| scottc | anyone know if it's easy to replace? | 20:47 |
| scottc | ugh, nevermind, apparently i'd have to replace the entire LCD... | 20:48 |
| tortoisedoc | hm | 20:48 |
| tortoisedoc | might be cheaper to buy a new one? :) | 20:48 |
| scottc | i've only had it for two months :/ | 20:49 |
| tortoisedoc | oho | 20:49 |
| tortoisedoc | bad luck dude | 20:49 |
| tortoisedoc | .( | 20:49 |
| scottc | :( | 20:49 |
| tortoisedoc | maybe the guys @ jolla care can fix it with warranty=? | 20:49 |
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| scottc | It's my own fault, I don't think they'd cover it unfortunately :( | 20:50 |
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| scottc | i sent them a mail anyway, will at least get a quote... | 21:01 |
| scottc | typical though, fucking typical | 21:03 |
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| scottc | fyi tortoisedoc i got an autoreply asking me to use zendesk | 21:07 |
| tortoisedoc | heh | 21:08 |
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